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5:02 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

OliverGive me the tags! Given a CodeGolf.SE Question ID, print the tags that the question has. Tags HTML format (this is what the HTML for the tags looks like): <div class="post-taglist"> <a class="post-tag js-gps-track" href="/questions/tagged/code-golf" rel="tag">code-golf</a> <a class="p...

 
@PhiNotPi: I discovered a fatal flaw in my idea: the sequences I came up with encode both position and orientation.
 
uBlock Origin. It = fast adblocker. It = blocks more ads. It = good.
github.com/gorhill/uBlock#performance <https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#performance>
 
Please stop advertise things here more than 2 times
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC you're as good as a spambot.
 
Huh he leaved
 
5:13 PM
@TheveryevilROFLcopter it was a kick
 
Ahk
> NOR gates can be combined to generate any other logical function.
TIL
 
@TheveryevilROFLcopter Same for NAND's iirc
 
@TheveryevilROFLcopter so nor is turing complete-ish?
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Yep
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC it's not turing-complete per se, because logical functions aren't turing complete.
 
5:17 PM
@ConorO'Brien ???
 
@TheveryevilROFLcopter Challenge idea: Turn logical functions into NOR gates
 
@TheveryevilROFLcopter three question marks leaves me guessing as to your confusion. what exactly are you confused about?
 
@El'endiaStarman yeah. The numbers represent sequences of transformations not the coordinates themselves.
 
@ConorO'Brien Computers are made of logic gates, and computers are TC
 
@TheveryevilROFLcopter logic gates != logic functions
 
> In electronics, a logic gate is an idealized or physical device implementing a Boolean function
 
@TheveryevilROFLcopter Computers aren't Turing complete. You can have a Turing complete language, but when run on a specific computer with limited resources it can't simulate an arbitrary Turing machine with infinite tape
 
and that
 
If we omit the bounded memory, computers are TC
Wat
For some reason 7 messages repinged me
 
weird
 
5:31 PM
pip install babel works
I wish I could use Kotlin for USACO
@ASCII-only oh, and petition Kotlin to them too, it's pretty much java but... easier
 
0
A: Golf all the 16 logic gates with 2 inputs and 1 output!

TùxCräftîñgNOR gates, 42 gates Exprimed in pseudocode, NOR gates are - 0000 0 0001 (a-a)-(b-b) 0010 (a-a)-b 0011 a 0100 a-(b-b) 0101 b 0110 (a-b-a)-(a-a-b)-(a-b) 0111 (a-b)-(a-b) 1000 a-b 1001 (a-b-a)-(a-a-b) 1010 b-b 1011 (a-b-a)-(a-b-a) 1100 a-a 1101 (b-a-b)-(b-a-b) 1110 (a-a)-(b-b)-((a-a)-(b-b)) 1111 1

 
Here I used an 'unusual' programming language
 
@betseg s/*/★/
huh does this work:
 
thanks
 
★ 14 Goat > Sheep
^ pls star for testing porpoises
 
And USACO supports only Java 1.70_65
 
5:54 PM
Weird
For some reason downvotes are no shown in my 'achievements' tab
 
@DJMcMayhem question: how to maek spoopy cat
 
@Downgoat Remove the star at the start
 
@Downgoat to be honest I'm not sure what I expected
 
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Q: Print all fractions

OliverAs a follow-up to this challenge, write a program or function that would provably print all reduced fractions exactly once given infinite time and memory. A possible output could be: 0/1 1/1 1/2 -1/1 2/1 -1/2 1/3 1/4 -1/3 -2/1... The output must be in decimal, unless your language does not s...

 
1237892 star only once for testing purposes
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5:58 PM
Ugh, let's not do these again.
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y u broke ^^ :(
 
@betseg wgt?
 
@betseg ಠ¯ಠ
nvm found workaroudn
 
for 1 min
for -1 min?
brb
 
@Dennis That’s surprising!
 
6:12 PM
I also have this, but it's already on byte longer, and it doesn't handle the edge case.
9Bs2;N$
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@flawr Have you read any yet? If so, how are they?
 
🔙
 
How to link in chat?
 
[title](url)
 
@betseg tested in sandbox, you need http://
 
6:17 PM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC isnt protocol a part of a url
 
it is
 
@betseg well on SE Main no protocol works
 
Anyone interested in the PPCG semmi-collaborative scriptping lagnuage:
 
@Lynn You should port your solution to Pyth. Iirc it has all the complex goodies you need.
 
my dog is howling and there is a full moon what do i do
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6:29 PM
@betseg join him
 
._.
@betseg hope (s)he doesn't channel his/her inner wolf at you :P
 
._. indeed
 
@betseg Stockpile silver bullets.
As well as wooden stakes and holy water for good measure.
 
halp were do i find holy water in a mostly muslim country
 
6:39 PM
surely there is muslim holy water?
 
yes, but not as common. it comes from mecca
 
Look for Poké Gyms in Pokémon Go. They're often at churches.
(I'm mostly kidding.)
 
@betseg Write 'HOLY' on a paper and put the paper in water
 
there is a church i know, but over 10 km away
@TheveryevilROFLcopter ;_;
 
Y'all are missing the most obvious answer: boil the hell out of it.
 
6:40 PM
ahaha
 
go to your local adventurers guild
@betseg why don't you ask on pets.se?
 
i read an answer, they say he maybe feeling lonely :(
 
@betseg let him bite you?
 
16 mins ago, by mınxomaτ
@betseg join him
 
@muddyfish he does occasionally
 
6:46 PM
@betseg Let him eat your soul
 
what soul
 
@Zalgo nom nom nom?
 
@betseg your soul... ?
 
@betseg What do Muslims use holy water for?
 
what is holy water in general used for?
 
6:48 PM
vampires
 
Air fresheners.
 
@betseg ಠ_ಠ
 
@muddyfish Off the top of my head, in Christianity, it's mostly used for blessing stuff.
 
@muddyfish drink
 
6:48 PM
@El'endiaStarman isn't that more of a Catholic thing, though?
 
Holy water would have other spiritual uses in different situations, presumably.
 
I heard holy water can be arbitrary diluted without losing its holiness.
 
@El'endiaStarman (not trying to be insulting) why would stuff need to be blessed through holy water when you can just bless the thing directly?
 
@El'endiaStarman I read post 0 and 1, but I'm struggling with the hyperboloid model. But I like the the list of the comarisions with the pros and cons
 
6:50 PM
@ConorO'Brien Definitely mostly Catholic, but I'm sure there's still that sort of thing in Protestant denominations like Lutheran or Methodist. Maybe also in the Orthodox branch.
 
57 mins ago, by betseg
http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/240?m=32555458#32555458 *14
 
@El'endiaStarman oh, true enough
 
Is there also some kind of corrupt, evil water?
 
I think it's called pepsi
 
@flawr unholy water you can also get at adventures guilds
 
@muddyfish Good question. I think part of it is similar to the rituals in the Old Testament. God chose specific procedures for the Israelites to follow, and He still does so today for Christians. You can also note that in many religions, it's common to do bless or curse things through a ritual that involves objects.
In my particular viewpoint, you don't need holy water to bless things, but sometimes it's just particularly appropriate for symbolic reasons. (Keeping in mind also that symbols [often] have power.)
 
I thought it was because average Joe isn't qualified to bless just anything.
See, you need the holy water to get a priest-level blessing, or even the pope.
You'd think it's hard to get pope water but see the arbitrary dilution property.
 
@flawr I don't think I fully understand the hyperboloid model, but the math is nice, so I use it for that reason.
 
just drop some in the ocean
no more vampires at sea
 
On a distant shore somebody could be cursing the ocean though.
So that's not very reliable.
 
6:56 PM
What about the water cycle, though?
 
@El'endiaStarman holy clouds?
 
If holy water can be diluted arbitrarily without losing its holiness, then surely, due to the water cycle, basically all water is now holy water.
 
@feersum is that also arbitrarily dilutable?
 
I would expect so.
 
@El'endiaStarman Holy water isn't arbitrarily dilutable. QED
 
6:58 PM
@El'endiaStarman But unholy water gets into the water cycle too
 
@muddyfish [citation needed]
@feersum ...so...does that mean there's a holy water war going on?
*grabs water blasters*
 
@El'endiaStarman its allegedly from the spring that prophet abraham did found in the desert and they built the kabah next to it
 
@El'endiaStarman sorry i didn't notice this. Zamzam water
 
@muddyfish ......well dang.
@Maltysen Oooh, what would happen if the spring got stopped up?
 
7:03 PM
@El'endiaStarman probably a lot of panic in the muslim world
when muslims go to hajj, they get back a few bottles of the stuff
 
chat in TNB gets strange when the moon is full
 
@trichoplax awoooooo?
 
@trichoplax also in every other moon phase.
 
@trichoplax s/when .+// s/gets/is/
 
I can't speak for other christian religions, but in the LDS church, pretty much all rituals exist for symbolism, nothing more.
 
7:05 PM
summary: there's a holy water war going on. We need to pacify betseg's wolf because it's the full moon (with water guns), and if the hajj's water stops, muslims wig out
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@NathanMerrill LSD CHURCH?
(at least that is what I read the first time)
 
@ConorO'Brien .... @trichoplax, we should totally make chat summaries a thing.
 
@El'endiaStarman au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101021110708AADFTqO so I guess they don't really have a contingency plan for it
 
@El'endiaStarman haha yas
 
@betseg I thought you were joking or something with "Zamzam", but nope, it's a real thing:
The Well of Zamzam (or the Zamzam Well, or just Zamzam; Arabic: زمزم‎‎) is a well located within the Masjid al-Haram in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, 20 m (66 ft) east of the Kaaba, the holiest place in Islam. According to Islamic mythology, it is a miraculously generated source of water from God, which began thousands of years ago when Abraham's (Ibrāhīm) infant son Ishmael (ʼIsmāʻīl) was thirsty and kept crying for water. Millions of pilgrims visit the well each year while performing the Hajj or Umrah pilgrimages, in order to drink its water. == Traditional origin of the Zamzam Well == Islamic tradition...
 
7:07 PM
> Scientifically it had been proved in the European Laboratories as well as in Saudi Arabia itself that the contents of the Zam Zam water and other wells water near the vicinity of Mecca are different.
So different it has arsenic
 
@betseg Doe they have different amounts of H2O in it?
 
99,93% zamzam (minerals etc) vs 99,98% tap water
 
> The Saudi Geological Survey has a "Zamzam Studies and Research Centre" which analyses the technical properties of the well in detail. Water levels were monitored by hydrograph, which in more recent times has changed to a digital monitoring system that tracks the water level, electric conductivity, pH, Eh, and temperature. All of this information is made continuously available via the Internet.
 
@El'endiaStarman Some days I'm glad they're not...
 
7:09 PM
@betseg So the zamzam water is less pure than the other water?
 
@El'endiaStarman we should get a bot to do it
 
@flawr Yes, it have more arsenic
 
@trichoplax Next time in The Nineteenth Byte:
 
@flawr haha rofl
 
@TheveryevilROFLcopter Ah I thought those 0.05% are the holiness.
 
7:10 PM
Alright, we need to add this to the chat summary: for Muslims, arsenic == holiness.
 
Did you know that a soul weights about 21 grams?
 
@betseg yes I did actually
I have no idea where I heard that from though
 
@betseg I know it doesnt weigh 21 grams.
 
@betseg I remember hearing about that from the history channel. this dude laid on a table and tried to cough his soul out or something? or he died on the table while being weighed
 
You can determine the weight of the soul by weighing a body immediately before and after death
 
7:12 PM
has anyone tried doing this?
 
idea: holy water war
 
@trichoplax loool
 
@trichoplax not and lived
 
unholy water dilutes more, but holy water can kill the unholy water makers
 
@flawr actually the guy found 21 grams with this method
 
7:13 PM
@betseg And you actually believe this??
 
No ;_;
 
How did he exclude all the more plausible explanations?
 
@betseg what if my soul's overweight?
 
@flawr Are you suggesting someone is wrong on the internet?
 
@betseg that's way within experimental error
 
7:14 PM
And why does he assume that the soul disappears from the body after death?
 
0.02%
 
@Maltysen I've actually had an idea for a mobile game on a far-back burner in my mind that uses your device's orientation as part of the means of control. I was thinking of calling it Holy Water War if it ever goes anywhere.
 
@flawr Well the difference can be true, doesn't mean it has anything to do with a soul though
 
@Fatalize Yes I think so too
 
@flawr like air in lungs, body decomposition, measurement error.
 
7:15 PM
@ConorO'Brien air is most likely explanation imo
 
Gotta love TNB...
 
I even think that you can't really weigh a human body to that accuracy while it is living.
 
@trichoplax The Mythbusters got multiple requests to test this myth. They refused primarily for ethical reasons.
 
@Maltysen I agree
 
55 secs ago, by Maltysen
0.02%
 
7:15 PM
@El'endiaStarman lol
 
@El'endiaStarman Because they thought they'd need to cause the death???
 
@El'endiaStarman "Today we are going to kill Kari"
 
@Maltysen what if you do it for a baby?
 
@El'endiaStarman What is unethical bout that?
 
@muddyfish then you'd have to kill a baby
 
7:16 PM
I mean, maybe someone could lock a person in a room before they died and made sure nothing else could enter or exit the chamber, then weigh the entire chamber
 
@Maltysen what if it was going to die anyway?
 
but that's even more sketchy
 
a baby doesn't weigh much
 
@Maltysen and what's so unethical about that? --i'm not a robot--
 
I have an idea. Let's steer the conversation away from disturbing experiments. I'm regretting joining in...
 
7:17 PM
 
@trichoplax good idea! did you hear about the presidential debate--wait that's just going back into disturbing experiments, nevermind
 
@ConorO'Brien I think you could do way more useful things witht hose resources.
 
@flawr It's mostly a combination of ethics and practicality. You either have to kill someone while they're being weighed, or wait until they die, which may be much longer than you expect.
 
@El'endiaStarman terminal ward?
 
@flawr oh definitely.
 
7:18 PM
@El'endiaStarman Or do it with someone who commits suicide
 
@ConorO'Brien Yeah, we could be doing a lot worse :)
 
@flawr aren't you meant to stop someone commiting suicide?
/call the police?
 
@muddyfish Depends on the circumstance.
 
We were talking about my dog, and now we're talking about dying people. Gotta love TNB.
 
because it's illegal, isn't it? (at least in the US)
 
7:19 PM
@muddyfish or do it in switzerland
 
@muddyfish Depends on local laws
 
@betseg are you sure your dog's ok?
 
He isn't howling anymore
 
If your dog won't stop being a nuisance, you could measure its soul mass.
 
@muddyfish Apparently, suicide is more socially acceptable in other places, like Japan or China (I think). Not in the USA, though, and the Mythbusters are Americans, so...
 
7:20 PM
@El'endiaStarman I can believe that
 
@betseg If you're worried about your dog, you should put them on a weighing scales so you can be sure they're still alive
 
Do it with a prisoner who's getting executed.
 
@feersum I wonder if the 21 grams applies to animals
 
@betseg Don't forget the detour through holy water and Islam.
 
@El'endiaStarman I can verify for Japan. I remember reading this article about there was a mass suicide between lovers who thought it was romantic jumping into a volcano
 
7:20 PM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Yes, we're in america.
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC They might thrash around.
 
@El'endiaStarman tranquilizer
 
I am too
 
Where suicide apparently is not socially acceptable, but killing murderers is.
 
gas?
 
7:20 PM
@ConorO'Brien agreed
 
@muddyfish Arsenic, the loop is closed!
 
did hitler do this experiment?
 
@flawr what if the soul is arsenic-based
 
@flawr Convicts. Only murderers with a certain probability
 
Wtf there was an earthquake (4.3) 32 minutes after my dog howled
 
7:21 PM
@ConorO'Brien I've read that suicide is a socially acceptable way to deal with the crushing burden of school work.
 
@ConorO'Brien this is actually a really good conspiracy
 
It was about 1000 km away
 
@El'endiaStarman huh. I haven't heard that. kinda scary. makes sense, tho, as there's lots of school pressure there
 
@ConorO'Brien I think it was a joke?
 
@betseg You can use the time delay to work out the distance to the epicentre
 
7:22 PM
@betseg You think your dog's howl caused that earthquake?????
 
@muddyfish Not a joke, sadly.
 
@flawr satanic dog?
 
@ConorO'Brien brb asking on islam.se
 
OMG dog is God spelt backwards
 
s/satanic/seismic
 
7:22 PM
I prefer to think of the dog as an earthbender
 
Illuminati confirmed
 
@muddyfish and OMG backwards is GMO's. QED
 
@ConorO'Brien Aang does have his pets...
 
@El'endiaStarman momo?
 
Omg the Turkish observatory says 4.3 but Google says 5.5
 
7:24 PM
the bison!
 
@muddyfish And Appa. Though I'm not sure he counts as a pet.
 
do we know the gender's of Aang's pets?
 
@flawr The death sentence is becoming socially unacceptable in the USA. Most states have already gotten rid of them, IIRC.
@muddyfish I've always thought of them as both male. I'm sure there are instances where they're referred to with "he".
 
@El'endiaStarman What about suicide of people with terminal illnesses/similar things?
 
@flawr Slowly becoming more socially acceptable, but legality isn't there yet.
 
7:29 PM
I think I heard in oregon it is possible?
 
@flawr I read a book on this (I think fictional) where someone drove an old guy to switerland to get euthanized. amazon.com/Universe-Versus-Alex-Woods/dp/031624659X
 
I think. This is all off the top of my head.
 
@El'endiaStarman assuming they have genders.
 
@ConorO'Brien how else do they make babies?
 
7:31 PM
@muddyfish magic?
 
I was about to ask if they even had magic in that
 
@flawr I'm not sure if my previous wording made sense. I meant that not everyone who is convicted of murder is a murderer (which seems a particularly good reason not to execute).
 
@Maltysen It is a thing, actually a little bit tragic that people have to come to switzerland to do it, but I know of a place which is basically a "suicide hotel" (crudely said)
@trichoplax oh right, and the reverse isn't true either :)
 
Unfortunately true...
 
Speaking of death and bodies, I can highly recommend this book:
oops
 
7:33 PM
We could correct this by executing a few randomly selected members of the public.
 
correct what?
 
@feersum I feel like some countries actually do this.
 
this is getting dark...
 
@feersum My point was that this is what the current system already does...
 
Which ones?
 
7:34 PM
isis?
@flawr 'randomly selected'
 
@trichoplax But they aren't selected with an equitable random distribution.
 
This is also, sadly, very true
 
When you've spent more than a few months reverse engineering software and everything finally clicks into place. This is one of the best feelings ever.
 
@trichoplax hmm, right... =/
 
@mınxomaτ nice! what did you reverse engineer?
 
7:36 PM
NDA...
Biometrics stuff.
 
No Dutch Agency...
 
I did in fact not RE a dutch agency.
 
non disclosure agreement?
 
Yes
 
a duck?
 
7:37 PM
ah
 
OK, whatever weird and immoral topics should we chat about?
 
Only one Dutch agency was left not reverse-engineered?
 
@feersum The others were open source.
 
I prefer forward-engineering
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC yesterday someone I trusted sent me a 4chan link. They are no longer trusted
 
7:38 PM
there are 19991 starred messages
 
@muddyfish ?
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC the content is illegal in my country
 
Is there a pre-existing spreadsheet/poll with (anonymised) country of residence of PPCG members?
@muddyfish and the country is
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC some strawpoll and UK
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I think our countries of residence are either public or undisclosed
 
7:39 PM
Anonymous survey. Because devs care about privacy.
 
I don't see why they should care more about privacy than anyone else
 
@trichoplax It's kind of scary that I have enough info out there that someone could literally meet me and say hi
 
Anyone up for finding @muddyfish IRL and say hi?
 
Maybe there should be a PPCG-Con?
 
@flawr I think BetaDecay is closest to me
 
7:41 PM
@muddyfish It won't seem so scary once our avatars change back
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC buy a plane ticket for me plz :):):)
 
@betseg Why not train?
I like trains=)
 
is there a train that passes atlantic ocean or bering sea
 
Perhaps on a boat
Wow, I didn't know you could almost swim from russia to the us
 
Isn't it possible to swim 2 mi?
 
7:47 PM
2mi?
 
short for miles
 
someone crossed the channel swimming
 
5 km
ah kinda ninja'd
 
oh wait nvm it seems to be 55 mi
 
whenever I search for solutions I have a few modes: "python", "javascript", "cpp", "html" to the end of my query. Now when I search for Java solutions I attach "python" to the end.
 
7:48 PM
Lynne Cox (born 1957 in Boston, Massachusetts) is an American long-distance open-water swimmer and a writer. In 1971, she and her teammates were the first group of teenagers to complete the crossing of the Catalina Island Channel in California. She has twice held the record for the fastest crossing of the English Channel from England to France (1972 in a time of 9h 57 min and 1973 in a time of 9h 36 min). In 1975, Cox became the first woman to swim the 10 °C (50 °F), 16 km (10 mi) Cook Strait in New Zealand. In 1976, she was the first person to swim the Straits of Magellan in Chile, and the first...
 
"in a time of 9h 36 min"
 
@ConorO'Brien yes that is probably more accurate
 
I can't even walk for that long
 
> Cox is perhaps best known for swimming 2h 5 mins in the Bering Strait on 7 August 1987, from the island of Little Diomede in Alaska to Big Diomede, then part of the Soviet Union, ... At the time people living on the Diomede Islands, only 3.7 km (2.3 mi) apart, were not permitted to travel between them, although the Eskimo communities there had been closely linked until the natives of Big Diomede were moved to the Russian mainland after World War II.
 
I can't even travel that far by train without falling asleep
 
7:50 PM
@Fatalize I'm sure you can=)
 
not willingly
 
@trichoplax Haha, I usually fall asleep on my 20 min train commute^^
 
I almost never get onto a train without setting an alarm on my phone
 
I never missed my station
 
lul
i've missed my station like 100 times
 
7:52 PM
I spent a 10hr car ride coding :P
 
i once completed one in a metro travel
 
@ConorO'Brien I've done the same...except I was driving and not coding. :(
 
so... you've driven 10hr
 
Not without breaks, but yes.
 
7:57 PM
glad you didnt fall asleep
 
That's a big part of why I'm excited for self-driving cars. I could then do other things while the car's driving!
 

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