The Nineteenth Byte

Phoenix

12:00 AM

@Mendeleev reddit

Mendeleev

@Phoenix Can't find it on karmadecay

Phoenix

pcmasterrace.reddit.com

Top post

Dennis

@HyperNeutrino caching

user165474

Ah. Wait, I can't be suspended until caching happens?

user165474

or something

user165474

12:02 AM

I don't really understand caching very well ;_;

user165474

oic my account is now at 1 rep

user165474

I may be gone very soon D: :)

user165474

Bye PPCG; see you in a week! o/

Dennis

But chat didn't realize it yet because it doesn't check permissions every time you post a message.

ASCII-only

:| I have no idea how to implement Longest using regex

Phoenix

12:04 AM

Wait wat you're suspended

cya I guess?

Mendeleev

Me?

Oh, alright

Phoenix

'HyperNeutrino

Mendeleev

I see it now

@Phoenix Thanks... oh wtf you browse that too

Please rate my challenge!

(How the hell did I misspell it that badly?)

user165474

@Phoenix Dennis suspended me for one week upon my request. And yeah, cya o/

Mendeleev

Bye!!

Have fun studying!

user165474

12:08 AM

I'll try to have fun :I thanks! :D

ASCII-only

what.

Mendeleev

@ASCII-only The Compute Card?

ASCII-only

128GB SSD + 4GB RAM + i5 in a credit card o_O how is this possible

Helka Homba

that's like a phone minus screen and battery

Mendeleev

@ASCII-only There's all in one computer chassis that you can stick them in

And laptop type things

Schools should buy these for students :D

There is a lawyer named Sue Yoo

ASCII-only

12:19 AM

All you need is some lego and you can make yourself a supercomputer out of credit cards :P

Mendeleev

@ASCII-only Or a 3D printer

ASCII-only

> 2D printer

Destructible Lemon

@Mendeleev do people named sue yoo have a a higher rate of becoming lawyers?

Mendeleev

@ASCII-only My hand slipped

@DestructibleLemon idk

Destructible Lemon

I imagine they would, among people who have the same background

totallyhuman

12:22 AM

My printer slipped a few dimensions

Destructible Lemon

a 2d printer is just as good if you can super compress the Z axis

Oliver Ni

what do you guys think of this

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A: Try to make a square!

05AB1E, 7 bytes 3×¶¹ðJû Explanation: # Implicit input 3× # Repeat string three times ¶ # Push newline character ¹ # Push first input ð # Push space J # Join stack û # Palindromize ("abc" -> "abcba") # Implicit output Uses th...

i beat the other 05ab1e guy ._.

ETHproductions

I just noticed that answer before you posted it here, looks great!

Welcome back, btw

Oliver Ni

ty

totallyhuman

What happens if you try to do file I/o on tio

Anonymous

12:34 AM

@totallyhuman If it's files created by the same process, you're fine. If they're not, it doesn't let you.

Anonymous

(I think)

user165474

Aww, I wanted to steal Dennis's files.

Anonymous

You should check with Dennis in the TIO room to be sure

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino Well, you can read basically anything on the server

user165474

True.

Anonymous

12:37 AM

@HyperNeutrino /home is off-limits from the public TIO interface

user165474

Aww :( That sucks

Phoenix

You can modify/delete/create files in ~, all changes will be reset when your process is killed.

Anonymous

No, it really doesn't suck. That's a very good thing.

Anonymous

Proper sandboxing is good

Phoenix

@Mego True, but I wish I could read those files.

totallyhuman

12:40 AM

Other than the interpreters I don't see what Dennis would put there

What

ETHproductions

I remember using the bash TIO to poke around in the interpreter files one time

I think I was looking for the wrapper he uses to run Cubix code, so I could add Cubix to the big polyglot runner

Phoenix

I mean, IK it's all open source on GitHub, but still.

Helka Homba

How do we know the open source files are really the ones running online?

totallyhuman

Dennis isn't a liar

That's how you know

Destructible Lemon

@totallyhuman but HOW DO WE KNOW THAT??

ASCII-only

12:47 AM

@HelkaHomba cat /srv/wrappers/<language>

iirc

to verify just compare outputs + compare wrappers with github

Christopher

hello

ASCII-only

@Christopher Hi Calvin

totallyhuman

hi

Christopher

@ASCII-only o no u found my real name

ASCII-only

Jun 3 '15 at 0:50, by Calvin's Hobbies

Hello?

Phoenix

12:52 AM

Calvin's Hobbies is Helka Homba

ASCII-only

@Phoenix I know :P

Christopher

@ASCII-only uh oh you found out I am a sock @HelkaHomba run!

Helka Homba

No you aren't

you are a shoe

Christopher

Wait what, my own creator abandoned me :(

Phoenix

@HelkaHomba That's just what the government wants you think.

IDK, something my friend says everytime he's wrong.

Destructible Lemon

12:55 AM

@Phoenix serious or ironic?

Christopher

esolangs.org/wiki/Correct_Syntax_Error

please give interpreter

Phoenix

@DestructibleLemon Ironic

Christopher

Language older than 2014 that uses any symbols

Destructible Lemon

ok

@Christopher ? C?

Christopher

nooo like the commands can use any letters

Phoenix

12:57 AM

@Christopher The interpreter is full of syntax errors, it doesn't work.

Destructible Lemon

@Christopher BF?

Christopher

@DestructibleLemon uhh I can't do that

Destructible Lemon

@Christopher does befunge count?

Oliver Ni

a few years ago

someone told me to do rm -rf / and i actually did it

my computer died

Destructible Lemon

@Christopher esolangs.org/wiki/Insomnia

Oliver Ni

12:58 AM

:/

Destructible Lemon

@OliverNi that was mean.

Christopher

@Downgoat hey some other person did dumb linux stuff

Phoenix

@OliverNi No it didn't. It complained about permissions.

Destructible Lemon

btw if you type unbindall in tf2 it will give you free hats

Phoenix

ಠ_ಠ

Destructible Lemon

12:59 AM

if I ever made a game unbindall would actually give you free hats

or something

Downgoat

Node.js 8.0 is out! :D

3

Phoenix

And even if you tried it with sudo afterwards, it complained about missing --no-preserve-root, and then you would have figured out what was going on.

Destructible Lemon

especially if it was a valve source engine game

ETHproductions

@Downgoat I didn't even know they were working on it, but yay :D Any changes pertinent to ~~golfing~~ ECMAScript support?

Helka Homba

@Downgoat -1, did not shorten console.log

Destructible Lemon

1:02 AM

@Phoenix not sure who you are disapproving

Phoenix

You

Destructible Lemon

ok

well excuse me

Phoenix

Although Oliver Ni also

Come to think of it

Destructible Lemon

or maybe if you can convince someone to type unbindall you get a prize

Phoenix

How do you verify who convinced the person to type unbindall

ETHproductions

1:04 AM

@Downgoat "Wow, the page is so huge, they must have packed some things useful for golfing in there!" notices the page is 75% commits "Oh..."

Destructible Lemon

they probably said something about unbindall in chat

what is good font for viewing unicode with monospace

Phoenix

IDK about Unicode but Fira Mono is a good font for viewing with monospace

ETHproductions

DejaVu Sans Mono?

Destructible Lemon

will try

Downgoat

@DestructibleLemon DejaVu sans &a Menlo are your go to fonts

ETHproductions

1:24 AM

This challenge is really not clear yet. The goal is basically to "attempt to translate" an input from English to one of the specified Unicode ranges/languages

NAA

Downgoat

@ETHproductions pls flag as spam and not NAA

ETHproductions

But it's not spam, it's clearly related to the challenge

It's just not an answer

It's not like they're linking to a scam site or advertising for someone

Downgoat

@ETHproductions I mean if I start posting link to xxxgoatsxxx.com you will probably flag that as spam even if it leads to my legitamite website

ETHproductions

Right, but they're linking to a generic hex color picker on a challenge related to hex colors

ATaco

With credit, it is a useful tool.

Downgoat

1:32 AM

idk, Alex/Doorknob told me to flag as spam in a similar situation before

ETHproductions

If it didn't have anything to do with the challenge I would flag as spam, but this looks like someone who misunderstood the challenge, not someone who's trying to get more views on their website

Anonymous

Just posting a link to a website is spam. There's no attribution or attempt to write a meaningful answer.

Anonymous

Also <website> is a useful link <dots to pad out answer> is an extremely common spam template used on SE

ETHproductions

OK, that's why it's considered spam

Anonymous

I'm kind of surprised Smokey didn't catch it

ETHproductions

1:37 AM

But if it's something like "there are plenty of tools for this online, why don't you google it?" would that be considered spam?

Anonymous

@ETHproductions Probably not - that's not unwanted commercial content. That's just VLQ/NAA.

ETHproductions

But I don't see how this case is much different from e.g. "console.log is in the docs [here](link)" as an answer to a very specific question about console.log on SO

Anonymous

@ETHproductions Linking to docs isn't commercial content. Linking to a product is, even if it's a free product.

ETHproductions

It's not a commercial plug, or at least it doesn't really seem like one to me

Dennis

@Mego Just posting a link to promote a website is spam, at least that's what the flag popup window tells us. The problem is that only betazoids know for sure if you've posted a link to be helpful or to promote a service.

Anonymous

1:42 AM

@Dennis Exactly. We tend to err on the side of spam, because the literal definition that SE uses says that it is spam even if the user was trying to be helpful, and we can't possibly know that.

ETHproductions

Ah, OK. I'll be more liberal with spam detection in the future then

Anonymous

In CHQ we get way more experience with spam than we could ever want :P

Downgoat

Quetion: what symbols are allowed in typical binary (e.g. ELF) symbol table?

Dennis

@Mego it is spam even if the user was trying to be helpful Do you have a link to that?

Destructible Lemon

@ETHproductions looks great!

ETHproductions

1:44 AM

Awesome, glad I could help

Anonymous

@Dennis In a lot of cases, we can't possibly know that the user was trying to be helpful. Promoting a product or service is spam. Sometimes you can tell that the user was trying to be helpful (good answer accompanying the link, relevant to the question), but when you can't tell you have to follow the letter of the law.

Anonymous

I'll see if I can find the Mother Meta post I'm remembering

ETHproductions

Well, this case was definitely more on the "it may not be spam" side than most spam cases

Anonymous

@ETHproductions You say that, but I've seen that exact template used in hundreds of pharma spam posts that Smokey has reported. Based off of my experiences, I'm more inclined to believe that a post is spam if it uses that template.

ETHproductions

OK. I'll trust you since I have very little experience dealing with spam (much less than you, anyway)

Anonymous

1:51 AM

According to the Mother Meta FAQ post on spam, spam is an unsolicited advertisement. That question was not "what is a good color picker tool that gives me the hex code?", so the advertisement for that website was unsolicited. Ergo, spam.

Mendeleev

Ayy my pull request to pacapt was accepted!

github.com/icy/pacapt

Downgoat

@ATaco feature-request for chat commands: /:<letter><n> where <n> is amount of <letter>s in emoticon, e.g.: /:O3 -> :OOO

Anonymous

@Downgoat Please no

Downgoat

it's OK not for TNB

ATaco

Okay but why?

Mendeleev

1:52 AM

@Downgoat :OOOOO

Anonymous

I forsee /:O99999999999 being used, and then I have to hurt my foot kicking people, and then I have to take the trash out...

Downgoat

@ATaco because very difficult to show :Oness in VSL room without breaking O key

ATaco

But /:O3 == :OOO

That's the same amount of characters.

Downgoat

what about /:O25

Mendeleev

@ATaco He said :O not :0

ATaco

1:53 AM

I feel that's a bit spammy tbh.

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat YUS PROMISIFY MADE IT :D

Downgoat

@ATaco brb making PR

@ConorO'Brien wait where was it before

Conor O'Brien

it was in a proposal

Downgoat

CMC: golf promisify

Node.goat, 44 bytes: f=>new Promise((s,j)=>f((d,e)=>e?j(e):s(d)))

ETHproductions

uh, "Downgoat"?

Conor O'Brien

1:58 AM

sounds like an interesting language

Downgoat

brb making fork of node.js called node.goat

ATaco

"Node.goat"?

Conor O'Brien

@Downgoat make the goat operator

Downgoat

wait what does goat operator do

Conor O'Brien

define more operators

Downgoat

1:59 AM

for that I need to fork v8

@ConorO'Brien can you give example of goat operator

Conor O'Brien

goat(@) (x, y) => x * y + 1; 4 @ 5 == 21

something along those lines, idk

ETHproductions

A difficulty in defining your own operators is operator precedence

LegionMammal978

Umm

3 instances of cmd.exe are using half my CPU

And I have 0 open

Downgoat

@ETHproductions meaning?

LegionMammal978

I don't think that's a good thing

Conor O'Brien

2:03 AM

@ETHproductions if I was seriously defining a new way to define operators, I'd do something like:

Destructible Lemon

@ETHproductions isn't there a language specifically about that?

LegionMammal978

Ima try killing them, see if anything breaks

ETHproductions

@Downgoat e.g. making a * b @ c be able to be equivalent to (a * b) @ c, or a * (b @ c)

Conor O'Brien

operator "namë <precedence> {
    (a) => ...  ,
    (x, y) => ... ,
    (a, b, c) => ...
}

Destructible Lemon

catseye.tc/node/Hev

ETHproductions

2:05 AM

@DestructibleLemon I have no idea

Destructible Lemon

@ConorO'Brien or just use parens :P

Downgoat

oh, pretty easy in v8: github.com/v8/v8/blob/652c9522d3116faf9e8ba260dbc215462f380bd1/…

Destructible Lemon

@ETHproductions ninja'd

Conor O'Brien

parens are for quitters

Destructible Lemon

by my link

ETHproductions

2:05 AM

@DestructibleLemon Interesting

Destructible Lemon

I don't really get it

ETHproductions

Um, wait, what

The integers are the operators

Destructible Lemon

yup

ETHproductions

"You can leave out the , at the very beginning and very end of a Hev program." Gee thanks, as if you can golf in a language with only one value anyway :P

OK, I'm done trying to understand that language for now

Destructible Lemon

yeah it is hard

ETHproductions

2:16 AM

Pet peeve: when 28899 gets "rounded" to 28.8k

Destructible Lemon

what does ,10,5,10, evaluate to?

ETHproductions

I have absolutely no idea, if you're asking me

Destructible Lemon

how do you figure out the root node

oh i see now

catseye.tc/view/hev/tests/Hev.markdown

root node is highest number

the next part down is the highest number on each side, and it works recursively

bkul

2:33 AM

Should I stop ricing yet

ATaco

ÆRŒ!Ẇ€;/µS=³µÐfLÞṪ, return (one of) the longest list(s) of unique primes which sum up to the input.

bkul

Destructible Lemon

???

bkul

ricing, n. making your computing environment look as nice as possible.

sorry that's a gerund not a pure noun

Destructible Lemon

> false face must hide what the false heart doth know

- me when I realise I was probably not supposed to be receiving cake

ETHproductions

2:40 AM

@DestructibleLemon ...I now have additional questions

Destructible Lemon

@ETHproductions later I realised it was fine

ETHproductions

Why did you receive cake in the first place though?

Or do you still not know?

Destructible Lemon

because it's a special day for cake

oh. its cancer council or something

ATaco

It annoys me that iPhones don't have WebM support.

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco takes forever

MD XF

2:53 AM

@ATaco Me too

Anyone know if I can opt out of seeing deleted posts?

I really don't like seeing all the trash that mods didn't want people to see

Conor O'Brien

there's probably a userscript for it

.answer.deleted-answer { display: none; }

just add that style to your styler if you have one

MD XF

Huh

Yeah will do

ATaco

@Downgoat Firstly, do you have PayPal, secondly, would you be willing to do a small commission?

Downgoat

@ATaco 1) no :( 2) sure, I do accept stack of tin can (exchange rate: $10/1 stack)

ATaco

I'm not sure how easy it is to main tincans to a goat.

Anyway... I need an Icon for a-ta.co

The MathJaxified "favicon.ico" has long since been retired.

Downgoat

2:59 AM

why not use your lego taco?

ATaco

My Lego Taco is very much so stolen.

Downgoat

D:

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