The Nineteenth Byte

betseg

10:00 PM

like asdfg aqwerty -> qwerty qwerty?

quartata

@MatthewRoh this is a security hole by the way

Dada

@micsthepick Maybe something like that.

quartata

@PhiNotPi that's cool

Mistah Figgins

@WheatWizard Sorry for being gone, I did git clone https://github.com/DJMcMayhem/Brain-Flak.git in the git console, now what? How do I test the code that I have

Downgoat

@ATaco yes

@MistahFiggins open tio.run and select "Brain-Flak" :P

Riker

10:05 PM

> brain-flak

Mistah Figgins

I have Brain-Flak Classic code I want to test

Riker

@Downgoat what betseg said is nice

@MistahFiggins don't you need to clone an older rev?

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat Why g? Why not :%s?

Mistah Figgins

I think that there is a flag you can set to run classic code

DJMcMayhem

Either way, your problem is that normal doesn't take quotes

Mendeleev

10:07 PM

s.dk0.us/9201.png <-

DJMcMayhem

And that g starts on column one, not the start of the match

Mistah Figgins

yesterday, by Wheat Wizard

@MistahFiggins Try this run with -C for Brain-Flak classic

Mendeleev

s.dk0.us/ff01.png <-

I just ordered it.

Riker

@MistahFiggins hm ok

@Mendeleev prolly a cheapo version

quartata

No, probably a typo.

Kind of mean to be honest.

Mendeleev

10:08 PM

@Riker I don't think those exist, they wouldn't be possible to make

Riker

also, would you mind not oneboxing the 2 images? it takes up a shitton of space on smaller screens

Mendeleev

@Riker does it? sorry

Riker

ya

Mistah Figgins

I really just want to run this code:
"qd:A(),(;{A\%!},pe#&f!0pv'%QTS|Q@░┼_¥f::+!vUGw)(Is(({})<>))%?;ONou{((({}[]<n=int(inpu;({})(@!-;<>))><>)<{i=1div=wvhile(({})){({}[])<>}{}}{}<>({<[{}[])>[]}[]{}{})><>)<>{ifn%i==g00div.append(<{}<>{}<>>i)i=i+1}{}printdiv)}#R{}T:.eX╜R;j`;╜0%Y*`M∩\"ILD¹s%_Ï,

DJMcMayhem

@MistahFiggins I don't use it locally very often, but I think it's ruby brain-flak.rb source.flak -f inputs.txt

Riker

10:08 PM

also, pls don't use your own image hosting @Mendeleev

Mendeleev

@Riker Why not?

Riker

it doesn't work on my machine >_>

i had to upload to imgur to get it to work

Mendeleev

@Riker In what sense?

Riker

403

not 404 sorry that was typo

Downgoat

@Mendeleev Seem kinda expensive for a switch

Mendeleev

10:09 PM

403???

Riker

ya

Mendeleev

@Downgoat It's a router

Downgoat

Though if it's a switch why does it say router?

betseg

@Mendeleev that's a hell of a lot of tabs

Downgoat

@Mendeleev :| that would answer it

Mendeleev

10:09 PM

@Downgoat Because it's a router

ATaco

Router normally does more than a switch.

Riker

@Downgoat ~~ Downgoat 2017

Mendeleev

@betseg is it? I once had >200 tabs open.

Riker

damnit it's 2017

Downgoat

@Mendeleev does your ISP not give you router

@Riker haha

Riker

10:10 PM

he wants it for a server I assume

Mendeleev

@Downgoat why would I ever use that bloated piece of trash?

quartata

@Downgoat ...why would you use a router from an ISP

Mendeleev

First of all I have three access points set up in a lightweight configuration being controlled via a virtual WLC.

DJMcMayhem

@Downgoat did you figure it out?

Riker

@quartata because it's free?

Downgoat

10:11 PM

@Mendeleev plugging directly into that is faster than plugging from that into router and into computer

ATaco

I'm using an ISP router because Telstra wouldn't believe the problem was in their lines otherwise.

quartata

@Riker Yeah, that's not even a good enough of a reason. So you know how much they suck.

Riker

lol

Downgoat

or does your ISP let you use your own router?

Riker

most do >_>

Mendeleev

10:11 PM

@Downgoat Our ISP charges for routers and we actually use a cable modem that we bought even

It's Comcast, so you would expect something else

Downgoat

>_> idk, comcast where I live requires you to use their router

Jan Dvorak

Mine wants monthly cash for leasing me their router. I have my own.

New Meta Posts

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Q: Answer-Chaining Tree/Leaderboard Snippet

This thread is devoted to the development of an answer-chaining stack snippet, which was originally used in Evolution of OEIS. By making this snippet available here (following this meta guideline), other users can use it as a jumping-off point to make snippets for their own answer-chaining chall...

quartata

@Downgoat router != gateway

Mendeleev

Our setup is basically [cable modem] -> [router] -> [switch] -> [computers, appliances, access points, server, etc.]

Our house is completely wired with gigabit ethernet

Downgoat

10:13 PM

@quartata no like comcast doesn't let you turn of router functionality of the box

quartata

?

ATaco

Ours is a bit more complex.

quartata

@Downgoat eh

I'd still have my own router

Downgoat

I have own asus router but it is only for wifi extender

ATaco

Router
	Switch
		Various
		Computers
	Personal Server
	Wireless Conncetions

betseg

10:19 PM

i was on wikipedia last week, looking at something about TLDs. saw something interested and told my friends about it. now, im looking at my wikipedia contributions history, i noticed that i added that thing to wikipedia :D

wizzwizz4

Has anyone else noticed that Stack Overflow have moved all of the metas' domains to support HTTPS?

Mendeleev

@betseg link?

@wizzwizz4 yes -_-

betseg

@Mendeleev en.wikipedia.org/w/…

ATaco

That was planned for some time.

Jan Dvorak

@wizzwizz4 It's been featured

Mendeleev

10:20 PM

HTTPS Everywhere completely broke meta because of the change.

ATaco

meta.codegolf.SE still redirects, and may do so indefinitely.

wizzwizz4

@JanDvorak Hmm... I remember that... :-S

Jan Dvorak

Ah, no, HTTPSE didn't break meta. Meta broke HTTPSE.

Downgoat

how does this look?

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wizzwizz4

@Downgoat Yes.

Jan Dvorak

10:21 PM

@Downgoat too tall for chat

Riker

@betseg pretty cool

@Mendeleev not completly

community edited a bunch of things

Wheat Wizard

@MistahFiggins you have to type git checkout classic_mode

Jan Dvorak

@Downgoat What's that that map of?

Riker

@Downgoat pretty nice

quartata

@Downgoat Way way too web 2.0

And I can't grok the tagline

Wheat Wizard

10:21 PM

Then run with -C

Downgoat

@JanDvorak the background :P

ATaco

I like the Web2.0 Look :(

Mendeleev

@quartata is taht a bad thing?

Downgoat

@quartata :( what is wrong with that?

quartata

@Mendeleev yes

Riker

10:22 PM

@ATaco same

Jan Dvorak

@Downgoat yes

Riker

@quartata why?

ATaco

I'm assuming the background is larger and cropped to the screen, otherwise looks good.

quartata

smells like a fatal combo of CSS and JS that will consume all the memory on my tablet

Downgoat

It's not one of those weird buggy websites that don't work on mobile I promise

quartata

10:23 PM

Reddit didn't work on my tablet until recently so lemme put it like that

The bar is very low

Downgoat

@quartata it's actually much much more light weight than I thought it would be

trichoplax

@Downgoat Excessively professional...

Downgoat

to be fair it is going to app store so should be professional

I should actually make that the app startup screen

ATaco

Make sure it looks fine on IPhone and IPod.

Downgoat

iphone view

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Григорий Перельман

10:29 PM

@Mendeleev I was pinged?

@Downgoat +1

Downgoat

@ГригорийПерельман were you able to install GitGoat? I don't see you as a tester yet

Григорий Перельман

Oh, haven't had time.

Downgoat

oh ok

Григорий Перельман

And then when I did have time, my phone borked.

Downgoat

>_<

Григорий Перельман

10:30 PM

So I have a flipphone now.

Downgoat

oh my...

ATaco

I'm quite impressed with GitGoat so far, I love how clearly laid out everything is.

Григорий Перельман

Ye, seems awesome.

BTW @Downgoat do you have a thing like on the website where it shows a breakdown of languages used?

Mendeleev

My approximate network topology

betseg

@Downgoat my tagline :3

Downgoat

10:32 PM

@ГригорийПерельман not sure what website/languages you are talking aobut

Григорий Перельман

Github

ATaco

@DownGoat It seems to crash when I launch a Git that is not directly owned by me.

betseg

@Mendeleev back button on the left phone looks...weird

Downgoat

@ATaco like a repo?

Григорий Перельман

ATaco

10:33 PM

Yeah.

Downgoat

ATaco

Let me see if I can get a screenshot, somehow.

Downgoat

is that what you're looking for?

or do you mean in the app

ATaco

I mean in the app.

Григорий Перельман

In the app, yes.

Mendeleev

10:34 PM

@betseg It's an artifact of the export function, it loks fine on my screen

Downgoat

ah, I'm working on that, it doesn't look like GitHub has an API so I'll have to do some hacking

Mendeleev

Григорий Перельман

I see.

CodeHub just shows the number 1 lang iirc, not the whole break down.

It also shows the entire size of the project.

Mendeleev

@Downgoat Why did you remove me from the repo?

Also, Ruby?

Jan Dvorak

My network topology is |- cable modem - wifi router ))) ((( everything else

Downgoat

10:36 PM

@Mendeleev has private stuff now

Mendeleev

@Downgoat oic

I would suggest to use a private Git submodule, but whatever

Downgoat

@ГригорийПерельман as in byte count? I think I could squeeze that in somewhere

Григорий Перельман

Ye

Downgoat

that screenshot settles all my apprehensions that UI is not good enough :P

Mendeleev

@ГригорийПерельман What app is this?

Григорий Перельман

10:38 PM

CodeHub: codehub-app.com

Mendeleev

Oh. I think I sued to have it installed

used**

Downgoat

> The most advanced client for GitHub on iOS

opls baseless claim

Mendeleev

...I think I just downloaded a taball of the Solaris 11 kernel.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

betseg

Here you dropped this: \

Mendeleev

sorry

ATaco

10:43 PM

@Downgoat imgur.com/gallery/rdqBl

Clicking that bottom repo crashes GitGoat

Downgoat

@ATaco hm :/ I should be receiving a crash trace but xcode not showing any crashes

maybe in a hour it'll show

ATaco

Maybe, or it's an incredibly hard crash.

Григорий Перельман

Does anyone here know how to load a .svg into JOGL, or convert a .svg to a .png?

Riker

@Downgoat more space between text and bottom IMO

PhiNotPi

@quartata glad you think so

Riker

10:53 PM

omfg @ГригорийПерельман this game is insane

me right now

i.reddituploads.com/… (no onebox is on purpose)

Григорий Перельман

Seems about right

Downgoat

TIL how f*cking expensive it is to make app store screenshots...

user165474

@Jonathan no problem, unfortunately he still doesn't seem to get it though...

Mistah Figgins

@WheatWizard not really sure what you mean by that. It gives me an error in the git console. anyway you can just verify if this code works?

ASCII-only

@Downgoat How expensive is it

Downgoat

11:00 PM

@ASCII-only 99$

@Downgoat D:

Wow.

@Downgoat Wat?

@MistahFiggins I'm getting a brace mismatch

Mendeleev

@ГригорийПерельман AFAIK Inkscape can render SVG

@Downgoat Just to make a screenshot?

Downgoat

11:03 PM

@Mendeleev and also put text on top of it, but yes

Mendeleev

@Downgoat ...

That's for each screenshot?

Downgoat

GitGoat Website

@Mendeleev not for each, to make all screenshots

Mendeleev

Oh

Григорий Перельман

@Mendeleev I know, but I need to render svg files in a program I'm writing.

Downgoat

@Downgoat feedback pls, probably at least 1 typo

Mendeleev

11:05 PM

Otherwise you would need to post it without screenshots?

Mistah Figgins

@WheatWizard Huh. Do you get a mismatch with the plain code you suggested?

It could be the special characters

Mendeleev

@ГригорийПерельман What language?

Григорий Перельман

Java, OpenGL

Wheat Wizard

@MistahFiggins No

Григорий Перельман

@Downgoat The 'Features' link seems to do nothing.

Downgoat

11:06 PM

oh, oops

Mistah Figgins

I copied the code, deleted all of the non-braces, and I didn't see a mismatch. It matched you proposed code exactly

Not really sure why there is a mismatch

Wheat Wizard

Probably an interpreter bug. I'll try to see if I can figure out why.

Mistah Figgins

Try taking out the non-ASCII

Григорий Перельман

@Downgoat The Twitter and Github links at the bottom also do nothing.

Downgoat

@ГригорийПерельман shit whoops

Григорий Перельман

11:09 PM

Awesome design though.

Look great.

You might want to add some checks to make sure the beta-request form is valid.

I was just messing around and it succesfully let me submit an empty form.

ASCII-only

ok so anyone want to learn charcoal

or try to break it

Григорий Перельман

Seems hard.

Dennis

Outgolfed in my own challenge and my own language... Well done! — Dennis ♦ 3 mins ago

So much for that meme.

Downgoat

@ASCII-only already done

fəˈnɛtɪk

@Dennis clearly that other user is also you. You are just trying to hide that no-one else can beat you.

Downgoat

11:13 PM

@ГригорийПерельман oh no I have to write JavaScript to do that

ASCII-only

@Downgoat But isn't it not broken anymore now

Downgoat

@ASCII-only even ^C bork?

Destructible Lemon

@Dennis how many times has the meme died? never, memes don't die

ASCII-only

@Downgoat Yeah

Григорий Перельман

@Dennis Can't you do Ȧ for a 1-byte solution? Or am I missing something.

Downgoat

11:15 PM

@ASCII-only found:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/charcoal", line 45, in <module>
    import readline # for arrow/Ctrl+A/Ctrl+E support
ImportError: dlopen(/usr/local/Cellar/python3/3.5.2_3/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.5/lib/python3.5/lib-dynload/readline.cpython-35m-darwin.so, 2): Library not loaded: /usr/local/opt/readline/lib/libreadline.7.dylib
  Referenced from: /usr/local/Cellar/python3/3.5.2_3/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.5/lib/python3.5/lib-dynload/readline.cpython-35m-darwin.so

ASCII-only

@Downgoat D: what did you do

Wheat Wizard

@MistahFiggins

"qd:A(),(;{A\%!},pe#&f!0pv'%QTS|Q@░┼_¥f::+!vUGw)(Is(({})<>))%?;ONou{((({}[]<n=i‌nt(inpu;({})(@!-;<>))><>)<{i=1div=wvhile(({})){({}[])<>}{}}{}<>({<({}[])>[]}[]{}{‌})><>)<>{ifn%i==g00div.append(<{}<>{}<>>i)i=i+1}{}printdiv)}#R{}T:.eX╜R;j

;╜0%Y*‌M∩\"ILD¹s%_Ï,

You did have a mismatch

Григорий Перельман

Ruby is the new Perl

Mistah Figgins

@WheatWizard Where

Wheat Wizard

[{}[])

I sent the fixed code so you wont see it there but if you do a find on the original one you should see it

Downgoat

11:18 PM

@ASCII-only okay can you fix and then ping me

Mistah Figgins

Ah, yes, thanks much

Downgoat

@ASCII-only fixed

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Image Quine code-golf The challenge is to quite simply, output an image of the source code of your program exactly as it is. Scoring is by shortest source code wins. The image must visibly contain the source code, and no other characters or decorations. Standard quine rules apply, so: - No 0-...

Downgoat

Charcoal>
Cleared canvas
Charcoal> %

@ASCII-only clears canvas but still exists :(

ASCII-only

@Downgoat ?

Yeah ^C exits if canvas is clear

Mistah Figgins

11:21 PM

@WheatWizard It should be ({}[]) right? not [{}[]]?

Wheat Wizard

Yes I've tested and it works

ASCII-only

Because people like me don't know about ^Z^M on Windows

Mistah Figgins

@WheatWizard Thanks!

Wheat Wizard

@MistahFiggins No problem

trichoplax

@ГригорийПерельман 5th bullet point:

> If your language has a built-in that is itself a valid submission to this challenge, you may not use it in your answer. All other built-ins are allowed.

Riker

11:24 PM

@DJMcMayhem @AdmBorkBork i.imgur.com/pbUS31y.gifv

Downgoat

@ASCII-only Also please provide way to enter unicodes without copy and paste from docs

ASCII-only

@Downgoat well i have x keyboard

and verbose mode although iirc repl doesn't work with verbose mode yet

just put verbose in a file and do ./charcoal.py filename -v

Conor O'Brien

you should do it something like how APL does it, where `A (e.g.) is the full width A

ASCII-only

@ConorO'Brien ?

Downgoat

@ASCII-only pls "?" Carries very little meaning

Conor O'Brien

11:27 PM

as in:

`A
is equivalent to
Ａ

ASCII-only

IDK

In Charcoal all ascii characters are assumed to be part of a string

Plus what about the non-alphabetic characters

@Conor

Mendeleev

@ASCII-only What does that do?

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev Exits commandline, like ^D in Linux I think

Dennis

@ГригорийПерельман If your language has a built-in that is itself a valid submission to this challenge, you may not use it in your answer. All other built-ins are allowed.

Mendeleev

I think this guy is a scammer

amazon.com/…

Conor O'Brien

11:37 PM

@ASCII-only be creative

ASCII-only

Okay then, but we still need a non-ASCII, easy-to-type escape character

Downgoat

@Mendeleev because of cheap prices?

DJMcMayhem

@Riker That's glorious XD

Riker

ya

:P

ATaco

It's interesting that TacO seems to be able to do anything that doesn't require it to run forever, even without turing completeness.

Mistah Figgins

11:43 PM

Are there any loops in TacO?

Dennis

Not surprising. C isn't Turing complete, yet you can literally do anything your computer can with it.

ATaco

There are only For Loops in TacO.

@Dennis I mean, even at a theoretical standpoint, there is no-way that a current implementation of TacO can be made turing complete without defeating the nature of the language.

DJMcMayhem

@Riker Roadhog is best wingman confirmed haha

Dennis

@ATaco Implementations are never Turing complete. It's a theoretical concept.

ATaco

My mistake, the Concept is not turing complete, it can never run infinitely.

By design, it's either not TC, or I've solved the Halting problem.

Mistah Figgins

11:47 PM

I wonder which one...

ATaco

I'm guessing I didn't accidentally solve the Halting Problem, but I'm not against the idea.