The Nineteenth Byte

@NewMainPosts WHAT SHOULD WE DO?

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@zyabin101 COMPLY!

@zyabin101 NOW!

8:13 PM

do we not already have a challenge to insert the input string into a given string?

i.e. to put a fixed string before and after it?

muddyfish

I'm pretty sure we do

Yeah, me too

codegolf.stackexchange.com/revisions/94485/2

@BetaDecay I clicked the "Let me explain why" button and it told me to edit my post to explain why it is not a duplicate. — Oliver Ni 1 min ago

sigh

@Dennis feature request: LOLCODE

8:20 PM

NO

YE

MAYBE

ಠ_ಠ

KTHXBAI

CAN I HAV STDIO

8:25 PM

@betseg Ugh, I was afraid this day would come.

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seriously tho (no pun intended), it's a decent language

[citation needed]

don't we all?

guys

I had an idea for a code-challenge

that's us

8:27 PM

write a snake AI that finishes the game in the least amount of 'ticks' possible

on average (based on a bunch of random games)

Least possible (optimal)? Or best (compared to the competitors)?

So, golf or code-challenge?

muddyfish

Isn't that already a KOTH?

._.

8:43 PM

@muddyfish is it?

@flawr that's.. eh.. heavy

@orlp I hope you like it=D

@flawr I like my noise gaussian

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Old Funeral - Devoured Carcass

Oh, sure, how about this then

@mınxomaτ ...spooky...

@muddyfish I'd guess that wouldn't make it a duplicate, since this new challenge would be optimising for a 1 player game rather than dealing with an opponent

8:48 PM

@flawr youtube.com/watch?v=1atQFLYbzuk

@trichoplax Considering the good points you've made, I think I'll follow suit.

Excellent

@orlp That is a great piece!

@orlp Symphony X includes a lot of Bach in their songs: youtube.com/watch?v=Z454yP-XkwU

oh sorry, that one was a bach junior

If you ask a question you realize is stupid, or you knew the answer already, or you make a statement in a similar vein, and then someone responds, there's no point to deleting it. Everyone makes mistakes and nobody's perfect, so why bother pretending otherwise?

@flawr compare to youtube.com/watch?v=-6g-tWmOSso

8:54 PM

@flawr ;)

my god is that an ugly piano sound though

@orlp it sounds like an electric one

Super Mario 64 Music- Ultimate Bowser (Final Bowser Fight)

I dno

it sounds pretty awful

@flawr bit of a throwback, but this is pretty bach-y

@orlp haha, cool=)

PhiNotPi

@NathanMerrill Unfortunately, even though I've found a way to convey some ID information / have the bots figure out who's on which side, I haven't found a way to use this information effectively. The main issues are that 1) using turns to make progress in the game prevents the bots from using their turn to 'communicate" 2) reducing the number of move options each bot has (which is necessary for them to communicate) seems to dramatically increase the chance of the game entering a loop.

So far, I haven't been able to make anything beat the simple strategy of "move yourself unless doing so would cause you to exit the top 4 spots, in which case move anybody else"

@orlp I once made a blog where I listed occurences of classical pieces in modern music.

@orlp one of my absolute favourites: youtube.com/watch?v=PhRa3REdozw

9:11 PM

@flawr youtube.com/watch?v=0Ok0expLH1o

Night

@flawr that's cool but can you play through the fire and flames on guitar hero? :D

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@orlp whut?

@flawr a joke

about guitar hero

being 'difficult'

9:19 PM

googling guitar hero

Guitar Hero

The Guitar Hero series (sometimes referred to as the Hero series) is a series of music rhythm games first published in 2005 by RedOctane and Harmonix, and distributed by Activision, in which players use a guitar-shaped game controller to simulate playing lead, bass guitar, and rhythm guitar across numerous rock music songs. Players match notes that scroll on-screen to colored fret buttons on the controller, strumming the controller in time to the music in order to score points, and keep the virtual audience excited. The games attempt to mimic many features of playing a real guitar, including the...

I just said I'm googling it.

Why would anyone play GH when you could play a real gutiar?

> The games attempt to mimic many features of playing a real guitar, including the...

But ^^, it's not really a replacement for real guitar.

For the same money you could get a real guitar, and actualy profit somethign.

^

9:34 PM

Because it's a video game. People like video games.

There's also a scoring system.

What happened to my picture?

OK, that's better

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Does anyone have thoughts on this challenge?

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When was this language released? code-challenge polyglot Your challenge is simple. You need to write a program that prints out the year the language it is written in was released. Because this is such a simple task, the twist is that it must be written in as many different languages as possib...

@DmitryKudriavtsev caching=)

9:50 PM

@orlp hahaha

@BetaDecay Wha?

Wha wha?

ha

@quartata @DJMcMayhem we should do 2v2 tf2 again, that was pretty fun.

(we meaning me and ^)

@LuisMendo I found out that you can spend bazillions of $$$ in guitar pedals.

9:56 PM

We should have a PPCG Team Fortress Server. :3

@flawr You sure can. I have three. Currently about 100€ each. Plus the GT-100 multieffect unit, about 550€

(we meaning Conor, Easterly Irk, quartata, and DJMcMayhem.)

I don't have money so I can't pay for server >_>

@LuisMendo I did now buy a looping pedal, it is really great for practicing!

I have a bit, but not doing that unless I get somebody to ELI5 how to make tf2 server (not google) and more support.

9:59 PM

@flawr Oh, really? Which model? What does it do exactly? Record and then replay, or does it include other stuff? I've never tried one of those

@LuisMendo I bought it used, Boss Rc 30

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Use your thing with lights. :3

Yes you can. :3

Yes you can record replay / overdub, and you have two separate channels (not really necessary for practicing but still fun=)

@zyabin101 ???

including a basic drum machine/metronome

10:00 PM

@flawr Hey, that seems to do a lot of stuff!

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ your computer.

nah

@LuisMendo I just connected a microphone (i have no electric guitar=)

That way you can also record vocals and stuff, it is really fun

@flawr Can it replay with long delays? That would be great for playing Pachelbel's canon with a single guitar

@flawr Next step: upload to SoundCloud :-)

@LuisMendo I think you could record up to 3h in total

10:02 PM

bah

Basically you can record, den overdub, and you can always delete the last overdub layer, if you add another one, the second last gets merged with the rest

@flawr It also has USB. That's great for recording into a computer (thogugh I know you don't want to do that yet)

@LuisMendo I also looked into a JamMan Solo (a single track looper) looks great too. But I didn't find it as cheap as the other one I have now=)

(even though it is cheaper when buying new)

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ heck yeah! Right now?

@LuisMendo I'm not that good=)

10:04 PM

@flawr Personally I love Boss pedals

@flawr Yet

"Feel Good Inc" - Gorillaz Live Looped Cover - Josie Charlwood - BOSS RC-30

@LuisMendo I just noticed that my favourite singer on youtube has the same one (and she actually aces this thing)

@flawr Hey, I like that song! Let's hear this cover

Very nice :-)

I have that guitar. Different colour

I only miss the laugh track, in this cover :-D

I guess this is now Guitar Chat

Actually this chat usually has several themes in parallel

Ooh, guitar chat, fun!

10:14 PM

@LuisMendo Fender Strat? Probably right handed version? =)

Trace Bundy - Hot capo Stew (whole version)

Wherever I read about electric guitar they all seem to talk about the fender stratocasters.

It seems they are like some kind of standard, right?

@flawr yeah, they're pretty common especially in blues

That's what I have

@DJMcMayhem I've read that there are still quite a variety of that model, do you know what they differ in?

@flawr Yes, quite standard, and versatile

@flawr There's the Standard American (expensive, better materials) and the Mexican (cheaper, but still good). Also, the freatboard can be rosewood (warmer sound. more sustain) or maple (crisper, brighter sound)

10:22 PM

Yeah, I have a Mexican. Not sure what the fretboard is though

@DJMcMayhem light: maple. Dark: rosewood

Rosewood. Maple

I have the second one, in that colour (midnight wine), Mexican version

And I'm very happy with it :-)

@LuisMendo They look just so beautiful!

It is! Haha. And sounds great

@LuisMendo ah, OK. I have rosewood then. And the body is that orange-brown ish color, so it looks like this:

Oh, the sunburst one!

Very beautiful!

10:27 PM

Yeah, that's the one. I couldn't remember what it's called, haha

@DJMcMayhem Really pretty.

HAL-9000 perform "Love profusion"

Here's me playing it. Please forgive the awful sound

Thanks. :D I really want one of these:

Les Paul, right?

My second one would be a Tele

@LuisMendo What are the differences?

10:30 PM

@flawr The Telecaster has a characteristic, very sharp, cutting sound

It's a great sound, but not too varied

With the Strat you can get more sounds

The Tele is Bruce Springsteen's guitar sound, if that makes sense to you

@LuisMendo nice! It's always fascinating to see/hear people I know from PPCG. :)

@DJMcMayhem sure

@quartata?

I don't think I have any good videos. If I did it would probably be piano instead

@LuisMendo super trippy=)

@DJMcMayhem My friend left the electric drumset in my house for a few days. That was so fun :-)

@flawr trippy and crappy :-P

10:33 PM

@LuisMendo Yeah, drums are a blast to play. I'm not good at them, but I enjoy it a lot.

I should take some lessons eventually...

@DJMcMayhem I can play basic stuff. It's fun when you get to coordinate the bassdrum, snare and charles

@LuisMendo Congrats to the 1 subscriber milestone!

@LuisMendo Charles? What?

@flawr Oh, I hadn't noticed, haha, thanks!

@DJMcMayhem Or hi-hat? What's it called?

10:36 PM

MATL awakens

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hahahaha

@quartata :-D

@quartata Who made this? :3

Who do you think?

(hint look at the channel)

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Ooh wait I'm not sure if I can right now. Maybe a round or two?

Or maybe not

@LuisMendo :D

10:37 PM

@zyabin101 Why, I did :-D

@LuisMendo Oh, I've never heard it called that before. That's funny

We should make a survey and correlate guitar players with code golfers

@DJMcMayhem kk

talk on steam?

@LuisMendo nice song

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Thanks :-) It's a terrible, partial cover of Madonna's "Love profusion"

sounds good

@DJMcMayhem where did you go?

10:46 PM

I'm on

@LuisMendo ah i thoght I heard that before

Where did you go?

Oh wait a sec, my freaking Internet went out. :(

yes

ready?

@flawr Speaking of Madonna and "Feel good Inc."... This is really good

11:05 PM

@LuisMendo Haha, also those animatios are great=)

(and ABBA is great too=)

@quartata Thank you for this.

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A: Introduce Your Language!

pl, 15 bytes Hello _, I'm pl Try it online!

hahahaha

The one thing it's good at

Good thing the language name is so short.

I tried Cinnamon Gum, but that's one long phrase (and I have now idea how it works).

It would be fHello %s, I'm Cinnamon Gum compressed.

But it would probably be longer.

Oh, no backticks?

11:07 PM

No need.

The backticks would be to evaluate the result again

ValueError: malformed node or string: <_ast.Name object at 0x7f23c83430b8>

Input needs to be in quotes.

@LuisMendo Speaking of mashups: Robin Skouteries is a master of this art, madonna vs faithless vs insomnia, but unfortunately he is frequently forced to take down his stuff (this video too, couldn't find it anymore on his original channel) this is his channel

@quartata facepalm

23 bytes. :/ Would have been 15 with language name CG. :P

Is that a feature request?

11:11 PM

Nah, not really.

I'm partial to the name :P

I got a few feature requests myself to rename Jelly to something shorter.

Wow, I just peeked at the pl interpreter source code and I'm actually amazed it works.

It's horrid.

I usually get that feeling when I look at Perl code. :P

I think I wrote it back during a time when I hadn't used Perl in a while and I forgot how to do things in it

11:14 PM

To be fair, 99% of the Perl code I've seen after 2002 came from PPCG. Readability isn't our strong suit...

@Dennis But irreadability is.

Definitely.

I had never used Python before joining this community. I read everywhere that it was supposed to be easily understandable, with little to no prior knowledge. It wasn't.

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And after all real programmers are hired to write code, not to read code.

Well, I'm not a programmer. What's my excuse? :P

@Dennis When did you join?

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

11:25 PM

Profile says 2 years and 9 month ago.

Makes sense. I found PPCG thanks to code trolling.

New Sandboxed Posts

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Draw an array Given an array of any depth, draw its contents with borders of +-| around each subarray. Those are the ASCII characters for plus, minus, and vertical pipe. For example, if the array is [1, 2, 3], draw +-----+ |1 2 3| +-----+ For a nested array such as [[1, 2, 3], [4, 5], [6, 7,...

@Dennis Hm I joined after code trolling was a thing.

OMG

SOMEONE ANSWERED

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A: Solve Grid-Tangram

BBC BASIC, 570 bytes Full program displays an input from L.bmp on the screen, then modifies it to find a solution. *DISPLAY L t=PI/8 q=FNa(1) END DEFFNa(n) IFn=7END LOCALk,z,j,p,i,c,s,x,y,m,u,v k=ASCMID$("??O|(C",n)-64 FORz=0TO99 u=z MOD10*100:v=z DIV10*100 ORIGINu,v FORj=0TO12STEP4 p=0 FORi=j+...

daHugLenny

wow

GIVE THIS GUYS SOME UPVOTES!

in Basic.

10/10

11:32 PM

I don't know who's who anymore. Username anagrams plus Gravatar being weird...

Well I'm still me.

are you sure?

I never changed my username, nor do I currently use a Gravatar Identicon.

I'm pretty sure you did.

@Dennis Push Logicode please?

11:37 PM

CS?

Hello, everyone!

@Dennis please pull SILOS

@Dennis Sorry, LGC.

Was doing some CoffeeScript stuff, so got confused...

It's now very very Turing COmplete

There used to be a hard limit on memory

Now there is a softer limit on memory

@RohanJhunjhunwala It may be very very TC... but is it (very * 3) TC?

11:38 PM

@Qwerp-Derp (very^very^very...very very very times)

How much is a very?

very (n.): equivalent to 2,000 extremely's

@Qwerp-Derp Done.

@RohanJhunjhunwala And done.

@Dennis Cheers, Dennis!

@Dennis thank you!

How much do you think a very is?

11:40 PM

A very large number

2k

2k?

2k16?

no

2k2i

2k3.14159i?

Q: Pre-order + post-order to in-order

@flawr Wowza!

New Main Posts

11:51 PM

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Task Given the pre-order and post-order traversals of a full binary tree, return its in-order traversal. The traversals will be represented as two lists, both containing n distinct positive integers, each uniquely identifying a node. Your program may take these lists, and output the resulting i...

code-golf array-manipulation binary-tree tree-traversal

don't post your own questions please, the bot will get them

not anymore it won't

why not?

doesnt it detect that a question has already been posted in the chatroom?

@quartata This is great, though I wish there was a pan down to a planet or something. Maybe even the PCG logo.

@DmitryKudriavtsev Nope, not at all!

11:54 PM

Oh

do we have a challenge for a hex-encoded bitmap?

something like:

λ echo 7e81a5a581bd817e|ruby pixels.rb
 ██████
█      █
█ █  █ █
█ █  █ █
█      █
█ ████ █
█      █
 ██████

why a lambda?

λλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλλ

Downgoat

I never understood how much people hated node until just now when I tried to install something node.js >_>

@DmitryKudriavtsev that's my symbol for my console

mut why?

but**

It's also the symbol for the haskell shell

11:58 PM

it looks cool

meh

in my font (Terminus) it looks like a box