The Nineteenth Byte

@ASCII-only See, I would have never connected that to LegionMammal, because that looks nothing like LegionMammal (given that I don't understand Greek).

Destructible Watermelon

9:50 AM

no luv for my vim answer ;_; y u do dis

actually all the answers on there seem under upvoted

most anyway

please updoot the underupdooted answers on this question pleas:

17

Q: Wave-Particle Duality Laterally Programmatically

Write a program or function that takes in a nonempty single-line string. The string will either be zero or more spaces followed by one period (a particle), such as . or ., or the string will be a sequence of one or more alternating forward and back slashes (a wave) that could start with ...

ples

thanks updooting guv

TùxCräftîñg

have a updoot

Destructible Watermelon

I have palindromic rep!

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

monring

Destructible Watermelon

vim is fun

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

My internet cut off last night :(

TùxCräftîñg

10:00 AM

^^

can someone explain me the utility of the Ω combinator?

Destructible Watermelon

not the carets, not the carets D:

TùxCräftîñg

ωω is simply stupid

Destructible Watermelon

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I like how the first thing I used vim for was programming in vim itself

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

Anyone still interested in 𝑓?

muddyfish

I need 3 upvotes and a downvote to get palindromic rep

CHALLENGE IDEA

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

10:06 AM

@muddyfish I would happily provide the downvote ;)

muddyfish

:(

zyabin101

@muddyfish GIMME

muddyfish

What is the minimum number of upvotes/downvotes/(bounties/edits?) needed to get a palindromic reputation

TùxCräftîñg

wat halp python is stupid

zyabin101

:D

Electricity is out for us, et my battery is at 11%. ;_;

trichoplax

10:09 AM

@muddyfish With more than 1 digit?

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@muddyfish 0/0(0/0)

muddyfish

@trichoplax ?

trichoplax

All single digits are palindromes...

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

I repeat, anyone still interested in 𝑓?

muddyfish

@trichoplax yes with more than 1 digit

Releasing Helium Nuclei

10:10 AM

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ noone answered, whatcha think?

trichoplax

If you want a palindrome longer than 1 digit, you just need one bounty of 100 to give you 101

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@muddyfish 1/0

11 rep

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@muddyfish Also you have to consider the -2 from creating downvotes

muddyfish

From a given starting rep

drobilc

@muddyfish can a reputation be negative?

trichoplax

10:12 AM

@drobilc Reputation can never be non-positive (starts at 1 and never goes below 1)

zyabin101

Oh noes, my battery is at 10%. See you around.

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

^^^

drobilc

Didn't know that :)

muddyfish

@drobilc no

Anonymous

1 and 101 are the easiest palindromic reputation values to achieve (fresh user and trusted user)

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

10:13 AM

^

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Get an upvote, 11 or 111

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

You should only take in to account bounties which are available at the time

And don't forget accepted answers

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

> ΓεξιοηΜαmmαΙ

> GexioiMammaI

I'll just stick with transliteration

(m isn't even a Greek letter)

Releasing Helium Nuclei

what is ϠΨΠʹ i don't greek

Leaky Nun

978 in greek numeral

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

10:19 AM

Greek numerals

Greek numerals is a system of representing numbers using the letters of the Greek alphabet. These alphabetic numerals are also known by names Ionic or Ionian numerals, Milesian numerals, and Alexandrian numerals. In modern Greece, they are still used for ordinal numbers and in situations similar to those in which Roman numerals are still used elsewhere in the West. For ordinary cardinal numbers, however, Greece uses Arabic numerals. == History == The Minoan and Mycenaean civilizations' Linear A and Linear B alphabets used a different system, called Aegean numerals, which included speciali...

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Thx

Leaky Nun

@Mego those days

when my rep was 1

muddyfish

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Optimising the Intermagpie-Gap Everybody knows that magpies change how lucky you are. The question is how long it takes for the luckiness to restart. In case you don't know, the number of magpies you see determines if you are going to be lucky or not. After a certain amount of time, known as th...

Leaky Nun

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ I think you got the number wrong

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@LeakyNun ?

Why, you're right

How odd

> Display name may only be changed once every 30 days

Leaky Nun

10:24 AM

Question: what does "know" mean in "stupidity knows no limit"

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

so too bad

trichoplax

@muddyfish Cute idea

New Sandboxed Posts

THE NICE THING ABOUT EDITING BOT FEEDS IS YOU GET TO STAR YOUR OWN BAD JOKES

11

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@NewSandboxedPosts lol ninja'd

muddyfish

@trichoplax I feel like it would probably be too hard to get a decent amount of well-golfed answers though - possibly a fastest-code instead?

trichoplax

10:27 AM

I'm not sure it would suit fastest-code unless you're giving very long lists of timestamps, but I think it could be good either way

fastest-code or code-golf would work for finding an optimal solution

muddyfish

@trichoplax I thought of the idea about 2-3 years ago whilst bored in the car and decided to have an argument with a sibling about how lucky we actually were

trichoplax

Alternatively if there's a problem size for which an optimal solution cannot be found, you could make the score the amount of luck achieved over a set of test cases, and make it a code-challenge

muddyfish

but I have a feeling getting the optimal solution might be quite hard - I haven't studied how to answer this sort of question

trichoplax

I quite like code-challenges where the optimal solution is out of reach

My favourites of my own challenges are that type

muddyfish

It would be relatively simple to just create a program that spits out random numbers with an interesting distribution

Leaky Nun

10:32 AM

define interesting

Lynn

@LeakyNun Good question. There’s also, like, “he knows no fear”, and stuff

Leaky Nun

@trichoplax you seem to be knowledgeable

trichoplax

I think it probably originated with statements about people, which makes sense, and then statements about abstract concepts like "stupidity knows no bounds" probably emerged from "his stupidity knows no bounds" via "humanity's stupidity knows no bounds"

@LeakyNun I have knowledge of some things. Other things (golf and programming...) I feel out of my depth here most of the time, but that's nice for learning

@LeakyNun Thank you, by the way :)

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Dense Numbers A dense number is a number that has at least as many prime divisors as non-prime divisors (including 1 and itself as divisors). The first 100 dense numbers are: 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 17, 19, 21, 22, 23, 26, 29, 31, 33, 34, 35, 37, 38, 39, 41, 43, 46, 47, 51, 53, 55, 5...

Leaky Nun

@trichoplax what about already as in

@Mego just post that already

trichoplax

10:39 AM

@LeakyNun Sorry, I can't parse that sentence

Leaky Nun

right, thats american

trichoplax

I speak a little american, but I'm easily confused

Sp3000

@LeakyNun Please don't say that, sandbox exists for a reason

Lynn

It was just an example, I think.

(Of a specific use of the word “already”)

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/already#Adverb #3 claims it’s influenced by Yiddish! Huh.

Sp3000

... oh right

Sorry, joined chat at the wrong time :P

trichoplax

10:43 AM

@Lynn Are you talking about the "already" that was said to me or to Mego?

Lynn

To Mego

trichoplax

Ah OK

Anonymous

@Dennis In regards to TIO donations, you can set up a paypal.me address for receiving money. That's how I used to do my payments for my contracting business, until I got organized with invoices.

Destructible Watermelon

I'm back!

Leaky Nun

@DestructibleWatermelon take a number

Destructible Watermelon

10:47 AM

;_;yudodise

Leaky Nun

subtract by itself

thats how many f**ks i give (just kidding)

TùxCräftîñg

ωατ

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

o.O

trichoplax

@LeakyNun If this meant "What about, already? As in...?", then I was thanking you for the compliment (that my thank you was a linked reply to).

Destructible Watermelon

4

I think i just created my new profile picture

profile pic will update soon

ASCII-only

10:53 AM

@Mego Yeah, me too, I didn't realize until someone asked if it was LegionMammal

Destructible Watermelon

I made a modification of that image

ASCII-only

@DestructibleWatermelon pls don't steal my idea ;_;

Destructible Watermelon

I realised when I put it into google translate

your idea? ;_; y u do dis

pls see my new profile pic if you are impatient

oh wait i didn't click save ;_;

save clicked ;u;

drobilc

@DestructibleWatermelon amazing!

Anonymous

@ASCII-only The plain white avatar certainly doesn't help

Destructible Watermelon

10:57 AM

how is my profilepic peple

@Mego It's easy to be disguised when you are invisible spy

ASCII-only

@Mego But that's his avatar everywhere

TùxCräftîñg

your profile pic is still a watermelon

Destructible Watermelon

It's updating

Destructible Watermelon

818 3 14

code-golf string ascii-art card-games date king-of-the-hill kolmogorov-complexity

TùxCräftîñg

ಠ_ಠ

Destructible Watermelon

that reminds me

TùxCräftîñg

10:59 AM

wtf

trichoplax

@DestructibleWatermelon refreshed...

Destructible Watermelon

really?

you lied!

trichoplax

It's showing for me

TùxCräftîñg

for me too

Destructible Watermelon

it's showing in the archive stuffs

trichoplax

11:01 AM

But for you, the watermelon is still refreshing

Destructible Watermelon

refresh!

It's good now!

anyway, the thing I remembered

flashback music plays

Jul 26 at 10:05, by Destructible Watermelon

TùxCräftîñg

ಠ_ಠ

Destructible Watermelon

@TùxCräftîñg Exactly

Good, let the ಠ_ಠ flow through you

5

Destructible Watermelon

11:19 AM

why is chat dying?

time to do another crappy vim answer I think

actually at this question it would be too big with my limited understanding of what vim can do

ASCII-only

@DestructibleWatermelon Because most of the Americans are asleep

Destructible Watermelon

damn muricans and their natural sleep patterns

Sp3000

This isn't even the least active time of chat :P

Leaky Nun

which question

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

:D im awake

and Im american

Destructible Watermelon

11:22 AM

43

Q: Determine dice value from side view

Write program or function which will take left and right value of dice as integers (1-6) and return value on top. Dice layout: +---+ | 1 | +---+---+---+---+ | 2 | 3 | 5 | 4 | +---+---+---+---+ | 6 | +---+ ,^. <´ 5 `> <-- Top value |`._,´| .6 | 4, <-- Side values `.|,´ So...

code-golf

Leaky Nun

you just need 6 regexes

Destructible Watermelon

exactly

seems a bit boring

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

If only someone were interested in 𝑓...

ASCII-only

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ ?

Destructible Watermelon

Worlds Smallest Violin

►

TùxCräftîñg

11:33 AM

ƒ is a cool letter

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

11 hours ago, by ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

CMC: I am thinking of a partial function 𝑓: ℕ → ℝ. You are to determine this function through asking me for values of 𝑓(𝑛) for individual 𝑛.

El'endia Starman

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Maybe there's a lesson here about not making puzzles too hard. :P

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@El'endiaStarman idk, last night a few discoveries were made...

ASCII-only

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ idk, i wasn't here last night

ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ

@ASCII-only read the logs

ASCII-only

11:35 AM

oh

TùxCräftîñg

wait

Puzzling have MathJax

ASCII-only

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ can you gist/pastebin defined values for n=1-100/1k and 1m-(1m+100/1k)? (/ meaning or)

@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ You're not somehow using some index of functions Mathematica might have, right?

TùxCräftîñg

11:53 AM

ok wat

i have created a spaceship in a variation of Langton Ant

Leaky Nun

Poll: is "f**k" less offensive than "fuck"?

ASCII-only

@LeakyNun Barely

Leaky Nun

@MarsUltor then what's the point

Sp3000

There's a sliding scale of how much people care about the word being used - we probably just don't get many people of the "really caring" type

(as in, enough to complain about it vocally)

Dada

is there somewhere when we can ask for help on a solution to a challenge we can't quite get right? A topic on meta maybe? (I mean except from this chat where I guess it's ok to ask for help)

ASCII-only

12:06 PM

@LeakyNun IDK, it shows that you're trying to be less offensive/that you are aware that it is offensive?

@Dada It's probably better to ask on Stack Overflow in that case

Sp3000

@Dada I think this is the best place to be honest, though it sort of depends what sort of help you need

Leaky Nun

this place has the world's most skilful people on a useless talent: to shorten codes at all cost

Lynn

I doubt that.

anagol has some amazingly skilled Japanese golfers

mınxomaτ

I can tell you that english swearwords in general are used in almost every conversation here in Germany. Business or not.

micro buster

hi

Leaky Nun

12:11 PM

@Lynn one Dennis is worth 100 anagolfers

mınxomaτ

Plus english music isn't censored at all around here.

Dada

@ASCII-only maybe... But I was thinking on code very related to a challenge : for instance about last challeng of Lynn, my solution isn't working yet, but I can't see why, so posting it somewhere related to PPCG seems to make more sence than asking on SO. Not to mention the fact that for codegold challenges, SO people might not be as helpfull as PPCG people

Leaky Nun

@mınxomaτ Sir, would you like a fucking salad?

Quill

that was a massive culture shock for me when I went overseas

Sp3000

Hmm comparing Dennis with someone from anagol probably isn't a fair comparison

ASCII-only

12:12 PM

@Dada SO is meant to be for broken code

Dada

@ASCII-only Yea, it makes sense.. thanks

ASCII-only

@Dada Also, I'd think chat would be the best place for advice on how to golf a certain piece of code, pretty sure the only advice posts have been the "Tips for golfing in <language>" posts

flawr

@Lynn Cool challenge, I honestly did expect my haskell answer to be way longer. But haskell gurus like you can still probably make it shorter=)

Dada

@ASCII-only ok, thanks again!

Lynn

@Quill Uncensored English music on the radio? :D

@flawr Thank you! Honestly, I have no clue how to tackle this in most languages. Which is why I posted it

flawr

12:22 PM

It is such a seemingly simple, but still quite interesting challenge, I like that a lot=)

Mitch Schwartz

fyi there are a lot of non-japanese golfers on anagol, e.g. teebee is german, llhuii is chinese, leonid is korean

Lynn

Some quick tips, though: again, (!!0) is head and I think you can write fst.span((<2).length) or so

flawr

@Lynn Thanks, I just noticed head but I keep forgetting about span!

Hm, unfortunately fst.span(((<2).length) has the same length as dropWhile((>1).length)

@Lynn Maybe you also want to add parsing to your challenge!

Lynn

@flawr Doesn’t the former have a ( too many?

flawr

@Lynn oh=)

@Lynn Ah, it should have been snd.span((>1).length) anyway

Lynn

12:38 PM

Err, oops, yes

Since f always decreases the length of the input string if it’s > 1, you can just do

g s=iterate f(reverse s)!!length s

Leaky Nun

Question: what is to "-1" as "first" is to "1"?

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

All in all it's just, uh, another trick in code golf code-golf ascii-art string The purpose of this challenge is to produce an ASCII version of the cover of this great album by the rock band Pink Floyd. The brick junctions are made of characters _ and |. Bricks have width 7 and height 2 charac...

flawr

@LeakyNun I don't think there is any, as our everyday language pretty much only handles natural numbers.

@Lynn PS: do you know about a fixed point operator?

Leaky Nun

@flawr then what is to "-1" as "1st" is to "1"?

flawr

@LeakyNun How is this different to your last question?

Leaky Nun

12:51 PM

@flawr because "nth" is to "n" as "1st" is to "1", but no word is to "n" as "first" is to "1"

flawr

Ah now I see what you mean

In germand I'd say roughly "the minus first", but it is rather contrived outside of a math/CS context, and I don't know whether it makes sense in english=)

Leaky Nun

@flawr how do you say that in german?

flawr

"das/der/die minus erste"

Leaky Nun

interesting

flawr

@Lynn Yaaaay, thanks!!

Lynn

12:58 PM

I looked up the very same thing recently (“minus first”).

Business Cat

I've never heard negative ordinal numbers, but I would say negative first (or minus)

Leaky Nun

@Lynn Are you native?

Lynn

Apparently the minus first law of thermodynamics is a thing.

Nope!

Leaky Nun

@BusinessCat Are you native?

Business Cat

Yes, from Canada

Leaky Nun

12:58 PM

Alright

zyabin101

I am back, with electricity and a charged phone.

@Lynn, you are pink now? o O

muddyfish

@flawr I would say 'the one before the zeroth'

TùxCräftîñg

brb

zyabin101

Guess today's doodle sport :3

Leaky Nun

@zyabin101 What is to "-1" as "first" is to "1"? In Russian?

zyabin101

1:02 PM

@LeakyNun idk

Leaky Nun

I thought you are native Russian

zyabin101

I am native Russian, just don't know what is the ordinal of "-1".

flawr

@Lynn I just learned about until which again makes it shorter!

Lynn

In Dutch I would definitely say “min eerste”

Leaky Nun

@Lynn same as German

(in Cantonese ordinal is not formed by changing the word so we have no problem)

Lynn

1:03 PM

Ah yes, “everybody forgets about until”, as xnor put it recently. ^v^

Leaky Nun

Cantonese nearly has no inflexion

Business Cat

Because until is completely redundant in most circumstances

Lynn

It is a pretty strange function…

zyabin101

Aww, no answer to the doodle sport guess... :3

flawr

@BusinessCat I was just looking for a fixed point function, as I found myself using that qutie often

zyabin101

1:07 PM

It's heavy athletics ^^

Business Cat

In what language?

flawr

@Lynn Haha¹

Lynn

My GolfScript answer on this anagol question times out and I have no idea why. ;w;

Leaky Nun

@Lynn which?

zyabin101

@Lynn Convert to Ruby et see if the Ruby code times out.

If it doesn't, you'll have to go with Ruby.

If it does, post a time-limit-exceeded on Code Review.

:P

(Note 1: Explicitly marking it a joke, note 2: you can choose any mainstream lang instead.)

@Lynn 1) Which anagol problem, 2) Are you pink now? o_O

Lynn

1:20 PM

1) golf.shinh.org/p.rb?Fractal+X 2) Yup~

zyabin101

1) Ah k :) 2) Why exactly? 'w'

ASCII-only

@Lynn Oh it's a Vicsek fractal :D

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Hai

Lynn

@ASCII-only Thanks, I couldn’t find its name

Business Cat

Hello

ASCII-only

1:31 PM

@Lynn I only know because someone here did a Sierpinski chaos game, which encouraged me to learn JS canvas

Lynn

@zyabin101 I was tired of the spring green/cyan. So I hue shifted my avatar!

TùxCräftîñg

βαςκ

zyabin101

I want to try make a golf server. :3

muddyfish

@Lynn your gif hasn't been updated

ASCII-only

@zyabin101 just use shinh's

zyabin101

1:40 PM

Okay.

@muddyfish They have to keep the original gif.

TùxCräftîñg

and hue-shifting the gif will render weird

muddyfish

Ok, a pallet swap then

ASCII-only

@Lynn 10/10 best profile description

Lynn

Okay, I picked a more purple-y secondary color. This looks neat!

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ooh nice

Business Cat

1:50 PM

Looks better than the grey

TùxCräftîñg

2:04 PM

silence

Releasing Helium Nuclei

silence will fall when the question is asked

damn son where'd ya find this

Business Cat

I found it in the box over there <points>

Nathan Merrill

Hey, I'm looking for a theme: I've got a list, and people can reverse a portion of the list. I've thought of pancakes (flipping a stack of pancakes), but it doesn't quite work

quartata

Jigsaw pieces? Something that isn't symmetrical

Nathan Merrill

nah, its a 1D list.

quartata

2:17 PM

I know. I was thinking like a row of them

Nathan Merrill

also, in case it helps, the values are binary/boolean, and the goal is to get as many consecutive values as possible

quartata

Maybe just coins

Nathan Merrill

I've thought of scheduling, but I can't think of a case where you completely reverse blocks in your schedule

oooh, coins

Lynn

A stack of — yeah, gold and silver coins

Nathan Merrill

that could work

zyabin101

2:27 PM

I have 10% again. See you around.

Lynn

Oh, thin and thick pancakes would work too

muddyfish

Thin pancakes are better than thick ones. They become crêpes then

Lynn

A stack of really small pancakes and really big coins. Solved.

muddyfish

I don't get how anyone could eat a stack of pancakes?

Nathan Merrill

I was actually considering blueberry vs chocolate pancakes

quartata

2:34 PM

"Stack" usually just means 3 or 4. I don't think I could eat a stack overflow of pancakes...

4

Nathan Merrill

but it really doesn't make sense that the value of pancakes goes up based on the number of sequential pancakes of the same type

muddyfish

When I have pancakes, I only have 3/4

Business Cat

@quartata You mean a flapjack overflow?

quartata

2:49 PM

@El'endiaStarman Conor's name is chopped off too. It's really weird

El'endia Starman

@quartata That is weird. Are you using the code without modification of the parser class?

quartata

Yes

This is all I'm doing with the result:

for id, message in p.messages.items():
  print(message["content"], file=msg, end="\x00")
  print(message["name"], file=users, end="\x00")

It's really not a big deal, I just found it kind of weird.

El'endia Starman

Hmm. Lemme do a little testing.

>>> text = ur.urlopen("http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/240/2016/8/15/0-24").read().decode('utf-8')
>>> len(text)
1131756
>>> p = parser()
>>> p.feed(text)
>>> set(m['name'] for k,m in p.messages.items())
{'GamrCorps', 'flawr', 'Mitch Schwartz', 'Dada', 'Downgoat', 'micro buster', 'TessellatingHeckler', 'muddyfish', 'Ourous', 'zyabin101', 'Helka Homba', 'Business Cat', 'mınxomaτ', 'Nathan Merrill', 'DerpfacePython', 'Sherlock9', "El'endia Starman", 'Destructible Watermelon', 'Alex A.', 'orlp', 'Releasing Helium Nuclei', 'New Main Posts', "Conor O'Brien", 'TùxCräftîñg', 'drobilc', 'N…

@quartata: Both my and Conor's names appear in full. ^

Maybe it has something to do with the writing-to-file part?

quartata

Printing to STDOUT is the same

Also Legion's name looks horrible in a terminal

It looks like moss is spreading over all the other names

Anyways, since there's only two people here I know with single quotes in their names I'll just do a substitute

El'endia Starman

@quartata chcp 65001?

Seriously

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