The Nineteenth Byte

Calendar Date to Day of the Week code-golf Given a year after 1600, a valid month, and a valid day as input, output the day of the week in full. If the calendar date is not valid (i.e., a negative date, a date before 1600, a day which does not exist in the given month, or a month which does not...

flawr

7:19 PM

@AlexA. honeygan

TimmyD

I have a friend who's a forced vegan ... something with the form of animal proteins really messes up her GI tract.

Optimizer

@R.Kap I think you are sobbing coz of pepper spray

quartata

@trichoplax I think it's counteracted by my mother's extreme carnivore habits

Alex A.

@TimmyD Oh yeah, I know someone like that

Optimizer

GI Joe track?

trichoplax

7:19 PM

@quartata Cooking for them must be challenging...

TimmyD

@Optimizer Very different.

R. Kap

@Optimizer Maybe...

Alex A.

@Optimizer Gastrointestinal Joe

Optimizer

totally makes sense now

Alex A.

A real American hero

Fatalize

7:20 PM

Is veganism a new "trend" in the US? When I went there about 9 years ago I had the impression that no one really cared what they ate

quartata

@trichoplax (hyperbole)

Alex A.

@Fatalize Where'd you visit?

Fatalize

@AlexA. Raleigh for two weeks as a school trip

flawr

It seems to be spreading for some time now

Alex A.

Oh, yeah. North Carolina.

quartata

7:21 PM

@Fatalize Yeah, although the "trendy" one is gluten free atm

TimmyD

@Fatalize This is America. We go through diet fads like other people go through shirts.

trichoplax

I tried eating vegan once. It was fine

Optimizer

@quartata Why will ATM give out gluten?? Why would anyone expect anything but cash ?

Alex A.

@TimmyD Granted, most of the people I know who are vegan or vegetarian have been for most of their lives.

R. Kap

I tried eating vegan once...

She ran away

flawr

7:21 PM

I'm part time vegan then.

Fatalize

The highscool where I was was surrounded with tens of fast foods

quartata

@AlexA. Same here.

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More formally: one can, in principle, convert some Universal Turing machine U (e.g. your favorite programming language) into a Peano arithmetic formula HALT over the variable p, where HALT(p) encodes the proposition “U terminates on the program (Gödel-encoded by) p”. Your challenge is to write t...

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trichoplax

@flawr Like, between meals?

Alex A.

XD

El'endia Starman

7:22 PM

My daily diet is half-vegan, I guess. Peanut butter and crackers is vegan, I think, but the big glass of milk isn't. :P

flawr

@trichoplax I do eat vegetables sometimes.

Oh, and I'm also 3rd-degree vegan.

Alex A.

Is that like a third degree burn? Pretty severe?

TimmyD

@flawr Do they come in ranks like karate?

flawr

I only eat stuff from animals that eat animals (or other stuff) that eat animals (or other stuff) that are vegan.

Alex A.

@TimmyD Black belt vegan

flawr

7:23 PM

No, 3rd degree like in graph theory.

Alex A.

@Fatalize The US has a wide variety of opinions on diets. People on the coasts (particularly the west coast) seem to care more about what they eat than the people in the middle.

TimmyD

@AlexA. urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=level%205%20vegan

Optimizer

@El'endiaStarman you just have peanut butter and milk.. in equal quantities for the whole of the day?

flawr

@El'endiaStarman I just don't get how people can eat peanut butter. That must be an american disease.

Alex A.

@TimmyD -.-

Fatalize

7:25 PM

@AlexA. NC is not in the middle though :S

El'endia Starman

@Optimizer Pop-tarts and milk for breakfast, but otherwise, yes. :P

I mean, I will eat other kinds of food too, but that's my main diet.

Fatalize

First day I arrived in Raleigh, my host family went to eat in a chinese reastaurant AT 5 P.M. WTF

TimmyD

@flawr But peanut butter is awesome.

flawr

@TimmyD I've tried it once.

R. Kap

@flawr I love peanuts...

Alex A.

7:26 PM

@Fatalize Well, it's in or near the south...

quartata

@Fatalize I eat dinner early like that too but most people do not.

trichoplax

Not all peanut butter is vegan. Some contains palm oil

Alex A.

@Fatalize What's wrong with that? Chinese food is nice and I usually eat dinner around 5pm

R. Kap

Peanut butter is okay. Peanuts are delicious.

Alex A.

Peanut butter is great and does all things

Fatalize

7:27 PM

Dinner at 5 pm wtf

R. Kap

Peanuts are better

El'endia Starman

@AlexA. North Carolinians definitely consider themselves to be southerners.

Alex A.

When do you eat dinner?

TimmyD

5pm is about the time I usually eat dinner.

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman That'd explain it then :P

R. Kap

7:27 PM

I eat dinner at 10:00 AM

Fatalize

7:30 usually, some people eat dinner at 8:00

Zgarb

@flawr I tried peanut butter as a child, and didn't care for it. I moved to the US last year, tried it again, and decided it's awesome.

Alex A.

@Zgarb Are you here indefinitely? I thought you went back to Finland.

El'endia Starman

I eat dinner late too. Normally because I wake up late, but still.

Alex A.

Also do you know Ilmari Karonen IRL?

Zgarb

7:28 PM

@AlexA. I'm in NYC at the moment, going to Finland in two weeks.

@AlexA. No.

Alex A.

Not all Finnish people know each other? :P

Fatalize

How can you eat at 5pm if you work 8+ a day?

quartata

Peanut butter is great because even when you're out the streets begging for cash you can still afford it

Fatalize

do you eat at work?

Alex A.

@Zgarb Back to Finland long-term or going to visit your family or whatever?

Zgarb

7:29 PM

@AlexA. Finland is not Iceland. :P

TimmyD

@Fatalize I work 7:00am to 4:00pm

El'endia Starman

@quartata Yes, great calorie/cost ratio.

flawr

@quartata Why would anyone be out on the streets begging for cash?

Alex A.

Panhandling is pretty common in the US, particularly in urban areas

El'endia Starman

@flawr Quite a number of reasons, in fact.

quartata

7:30 PM

@flawr because college costs monies here

i was joking though

TimmyD

@flawr Because the US (in general) refuses to really acknowledge the homeless crisis that we have.

Zgarb

@AlexA. Back for a year, then to France.

flawr

Yeah, I was joking too...

kinda sad joke

Fatalize

@Zgarb where in France?

quartata

Still, it's definitely a staple of the average poor college student's diet

Zgarb

7:32 PM

@Fatalize Montpellier. I'll be there for a year too.

What for?

@Zgarb Nice!

...?

lol, Montpellier and Finland, that's quite the weather change

Zgarb

@AlexA. I have a post-doc position there.

@Fatalize I will most probably burn into a crisp.

quartata

7:33 PM

@Zgarb hope you have sunscreen

Zgarb

@quartata I hope I'll remember to use it. :P

zyabin101

@AlexA. Linky? Winky? Dinky? Binky?

quartata

You'll remember after your first sunburn

Fatalize

Average highest in Helsinki in July: 22°C

in Montpellier: 29°C

Alex A.

@Zgarb Oh nice, congrats. :) What's the position? Combinatorics research?

TimmyD

7:35 PM

Ah, I had read Montpelier, and was thinking to myself ... no, the climate should be pretty similar ...

flawr

@TimmyD Haha=)

Fatalize

@TimmyD Paris

TimmyD

Yes, I finally saw the second L

Alex A.

I can guarantee Texas is nothing like Paris and I've never been to France

Nathan Merrill

@TimmyD Here in Utah, we have an extensive, underused programs to help the homeless, yet we still see many people begging. While this isn't definitely always the case, there are definitely people who beg due to laziness or profitability

Fatalize

7:36 PM

@Zgarb do you speak French?

flawr

@Fatalize o_o

Zgarb

@AlexA. Thanks! It's tiling theory, but yeah, a research position. It's funded by a Finnish foundation, so I'll have very few responsibilities beyond research.

flawr

@Zgarb So cool!

Zgarb

@Fatalize Oui, mais pas bien.

Geobits

@NathanMerrill I remember reading some time ago how other states were actually bussing homeless people into Utah because of this :/

Fatalize

7:37 PM

@Zgarb Bonne chance avec l'administration alors haha

Alex A.

@NathanMerrill There was a woman who was panhandling near a restaurant and the restaurant owner offered her a job. She asked if it was minimum wage and he said yes, and she declined because she makes more panhandling.

flawr

For real?

Alex A.

@Fatalize mdr

flawr

How much is the minimum wage then???

quartata

@Geobits that's both hilarious and sad

TimmyD

7:38 PM

Paltry

Fatalize

@AlexA. ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

@flawr $7.25/hr, federally.

quartata

@flawr Depends on where you are.

El'endia Starman

States vary.

Alex A.

@flawr Yep. It was a restaurant where a friend of mine worked.

@Fatalize What?

flawr

7:39 PM

@El'endiaStarman Can you live with that money??

TimmyD

Working full time at minimum wage is ~$14,500 per year

El'endia Starman

@flawr Not really, no.

Geobits

Not really on your own, at least.

Alex A.

The city of Seattle is slowly implementing a $15/hour minimum wage.

Fatalize

@AlexA. where would you learn that ಠ_ಠ

El'endia Starman

7:39 PM

There's a growing movement to raise the minimum wage to $10.10/hr, or $15/hr.

Alex A.

@Fatalize I studied French in university ಠ_ಠ

Zgarb

The amount of homeless people in the US was a culture shock to me.

TimmyD

@flawr aspe.hhs.gov/poverty-guidelines

Fatalize

They teach you that? lolwut

Alex A.

Merde

flawr

7:40 PM

@Zgarb Same here..

Fatalize

tbf homeless people in Finland would have rough winters

Geobits

@AlexA. Meanwhile, my lame-ass governor is trying to poach businesses from other states by bragging about our low minimum wage...

Nathan Merrill

I really don't think that raising minimum wages is a good thing.

Alex A.

ಠ_ಠ

flawr

@Fatalize WTF

Fatalize

7:40 PM

@AlexA. do they teach swear words? O_o

Alex A.

@Fatalize Va te faire foutre?

Fatalize

ಠ_ಠ

Alex A.

<3

TimmyD

@Fatalize Homeless in Minnesota have rough winters, too ... doesn't mean they're not present

Zgarb

@Fatalize Which is why we have government-issued housing.

Fatalize

7:41 PM

And then they get offended when we say fuck

dem muricans

Alex A.

Yep

Agawa001

i scored highest score in bytes , coming from the list-tail

Fatalize

@Zgarb you will probably see quite a bit of homeless people in Montpellier

Alex A.

There's a "tent city" in Seattle, i.e. a large parking lot that's converted to a place for tents for homeless people.

Agawa001

arround a year in pcg and still my golfing skills havent improved much

flawr

7:44 PM

@Agawa001 What language do you golf in?

Fatalize

@Agawa001 you kept your sanity, that's good

Alex A.

:D

Agawa001

my last one was in php

Fatalize

oh nevermind then

Agawa001

and my first one in php

Alex A.

7:45 PM

Usually you use Matlab though, right?

Agawa001

i try to diversify

flawr

Try MATL then=)

Alex A.

@Agawa001 That's fun. :)

TimmyD

Diversify shmisersify

PowerShell is great and does all things.

Alex A.

@TimmyD Do you know how many answers you have in languages other than PowerShell?

Agawa001

7:46 PM

@flawr i still cant deceipher its talismans

that may require another year lol

in addition to that, my matlab is outdated

which means cant compile matl codes

Fatalize

@Zgarb Montpellier

flawr

@Agawa001 I use only the tryitonline interpreter.

quartata

@Agawa001 There's an online compiler.

flawr

And theres also a version for Octave

quartata

(although I prefer to use it offline because of the help commands and what not)

TimmyD

7:48 PM

@AlexA. A very tiny amount ... I answered a KOTH in Python once, a VBScript on Hello World, maybe a couple BATCH file answers

Agawa001

@flawr like Oct ?

quartata

@AlexA. triggered

Alex A.

@TimmyD So one answer in a non-Microsoft language? :P

TimmyD

Yep

Alex A.

@quartata :O

Agawa001

7:49 PM

yes online compiler, lol, the server supervisor will have funny time receiving my non-working codes

TimmyD

@AlexA. And I tell ya, that KOTH answer was rough and I'm glad it was a simple answer because holy cow, do I not remember Python in the slightest.

Alex A.

haha XD

Too long Microsoftin'

flawr

Oh no, I need to downvote 7 times in order to get a nice rep.

TimmyD

Why would I need Python when I have PowerShell?

quartata

@flawr Why not accept an answer and undownvote something?

flawr

7:51 PM

@quartata I think accepting adds to your rep?

quartata

Right.

flawr

I need to decrease my rep by 7.

quartata

It'll add +3

TimmyD

But that's not 12345

quartata

Oh, nevermind then.

I assumed you had 12,007 or something like that

flawr

7:52 PM

Haha, no=)

Geobits

Why not just let me downvote you 11 times, then upvote one of your questions?

And an answer.

Alex A.

@Fatalize That looks like a magical place

TimmyD

And then I'll upvote an answer, and then the whole gyrations will have been for naught

Fatalize

@AlexA. grass looks greener blah blah :)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

It worked.

:D

quartata

7:54 PM

What?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

My only new app is Chrome.

El'endia Starman

Pro-tip: every time you see "the other side", replace it with "the afterlife".

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata Mac died, turns out along with Jesus, USB sticks can resurrect stuff.

@El'endiaStarman Hello from the afteeerrrliffffeeeee!

Alex A.

@Fatalize Seattle

Geobits

I flipped my pancakes because I needed to cook the afterlife?

flawr

7:55 PM

@El'endiaStarman On the afterlife of the road?

El'endia Starman

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Also: why did the chicken cross the road?

flawr

@El'endiaStarman suicidal.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Oh, that's easy: To get to the.. wait wtf.

trichoplax

You'll be laughing on the afterlife of your face

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@El'endiaStarman Oh, that's easy: To get to the.. wait woah

Geobits

7:56 PM

I guess it doesn't always work. On the afterhand, when it does it's funny.

Fatalize

"Go Australia" south African's flag

wtf is this video

TimmyD

@El'endiaStarman To prove to the armadillo it could be done.

Fatalize

Is Seattle really considered a joke in the US?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no.

El'endia Starman

@Geobits Yeah, it's really most effective with the chicken joke.

Alex A.

7:57 PM

No, this video is just supposed to be inane :P

quartata

Just turned on the XKCD substitutions Chrome extension

El'endia Starman

@TimmyD I've seen that variant with a different animal. Possums, I think?

TimmyD

@Fatalize Depends if you're liberal-leaning or conservative-leaning

quartata

> Two days into Trump's general eating contest campaign

3

perfection

TimmyD

@El'endiaStarman Probably.

Fatalize

7:58 PM

@AlexA. Have you been outside the US?

Alex A.

Canada, Mexico when I was really, really young, and the UK

El'endia Starman

I've been outside the US in (almost) the most minor way possible: looking at the Niagara Falls (specifically, the Horseshoe Falls) from the Canadian side. :P

Alex A.

I'd like to see more of the world I just don't have the financial means to do so at the moment...

Fatalize

@AlexA. should hurry to travel to Mexico again before they pay for a wall

Alex A.

XD

trichoplax

7:59 PM

@AlexA. It's free online

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