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11:01 PM

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Q: How should we handle answers that predate standard loopholes?

There was a time—a dark, dark time—in which there were no standard loopholes. Since we began classifying certain things as loopholes and banning their use, the overall quality of the content on this site has improved. However, answers from the Dark Ages remain, answers which violate loopholes but...

discussion policy answers

I thought we already had consensus on this

That they don't apply retroactively

> A method to connect to a botnet to DDoS TNB

> martin : value Scarf
> dennis : value Menace
> flawr : value Plane Crash
> trichoplax : value I Like Turtles
> geobits : value Downvote
> taxesQPays : value none

o_o

@quartata If so, I wasn't aware of it.

Huh.

@Downgoat add Cheddar: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/44680/…

11:06 PM

to much of a WIP

@EasterlyIrk true. Maybe later then.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

there's a strong consensus on that meta post XD

"Flag and delete them" got a lot of downvotes fast. Huh.

I don't think Alex particularly articulated why we should which is part of the problem

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

There's obviously 4 people voting on the entire thing, and the third person hasn't weighed in yet >_>

@quartata Dude, just tell him lol @AlexA. ^^

11:08 PM

But let's just say that part of the reason we still see people posting "cheaty answers" is because our most upvoted challenges have these super old answers

I actually have been going back through these answers and I've.... seen things....

Can confirm, 50% of user flags are quartata

@Doorknob Really? that seems.... high

Mego has way more flags surely

That's an exaggeration. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Best compromise: "Lock all of them, delete them, then leave them alone." :P

rofl

11:09 PM

Locking isn't a good idea IMO. It's not really what locking answers is for.

can you lock a deleted post?

Yes.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Can you delete a locked post?

Mods can.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o.c

11:11 PM

rofl

Jenny - Studio Killers

user image

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@AshwinGupta XD

And I just realized your avatar is amazing

@Dennis apparently the HTML spec says all elements that aren't pre or children of pre don't preserve whitespace, changing your textareas to pre might work for that line endings thing

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ikr

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ u watch dw?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:16 PM

yes! :D

good :D

I can't wait for the new season

last one was SOOO good

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

moffat's finally leaving tho

@AshwinGupta YAH

yeah ^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yeah tru dat

11:16 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :D ikr

I don't like him as much as he was for doctors 10 or 11

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

better than 9

I don't liek "the doctor's notes" episodes though.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ hell naw

well

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

which one was that?

9 fit the "weird eccentric time travelling dude" best.

Except maybe 11.

11 was really emotional.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:17 PM

true... but 12 goes well nicely

Capaldi really redeemed himself last season. Season 8 was terrible IMHO, I thought that DW was dead after season 8 and I was really sad. IK it wasn't competly capaldi's fault (mostly moffats) but still...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I liked season 8, but yeah, I see what you mean

I didn't even watch season 9 until I read reviews, then I bought it on amazon w/ my christmas money. Best purchase ever.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

and then the bomb dropped in season 9 and I was not happy :(

but I was

@AshwinGupta :D good for you

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Idk, some episodes were good, most were mediocore at best.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:18 PM

That's true

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Like the first one was good, deep breath.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk because 7 8 9

^^^^

Hello everybody.

shit stahp messaing

11:19 PM

@EasterlyIrk yeah I liked him

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AshwinGupta oo, that was tense :D nice episode too

@R.Kap ohai

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@R.Kap Hi! Have you rep capped yet?

(r. kap)

(r.ep kapped)

I have hit 194 in a day. It was very sad.

But damn, season 9 had the best opening story by far. I mean shit, first episode and Davros transports doctor to skaro. Plus missy is a f*cking baller.

11:19 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ </badpun>

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yah

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Haha...very funny

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@R.Kap :3

@AshwinGupta yess

I think what made it better was they focused on writing. They didn't limit themselves to one episode stories, I really REALLY apreciated the three part storys

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yah

11:20 PM

ok bye gtg, I have to work on my math hw

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I need to rewatch it

@AshwinGupta bai

What show are people talking about here?

@quartata Sure it is. Content dispute. The contents of the answer are disputed since they're disallowed now and weren't when it was posted.

@R.Kap doctor who

@AlexA. I thought that was for copyright disputes.

11:22 PM

That's what I was thinking, but just had to make sure

@quartata No

Does anyone know of a short way to do '\n'.join in Python?

'\n'.join

Or is that the shortest way?

^^

@R.Kap that is shortest unless you assign x='\n'.join.

then x(foo) works

11:23 PM

Don't think you can curry like that can you?

Vindaloo

@AlexA. dont make me hungry I just ate

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata it works

Then I guess my answer can't get any shorter than 423 here:

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A: Home improvement for the Minotaur

Python 3.5, 703 695 676 648 587 581 542 535 500 486 462 431 423 bytes: (Thanks to @flawr for advice on saving 55 bytes (486 -> 431)!) def j(r):R=range;Z=zip;B=r+r+2;P='+';M='-';X='| ';q=[*Z(R(0,B-1,2),R(B-1,0,-2))];L=r+1;A=2+r;print('\n'.join([X*w+P+M*v+P+' |'*w for v,w in Z(R(4*L*4-3,0,-4),R(4...

Ohh it accesses join like a field

11:26 PM

@quartata I added some articulation.

I already upvoted

Ww, such consensus /s

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A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

Cheddar Cheddar is a high-level, functional + object-oriented, programming language designed to make programing, easier, faster, and more intuitive. Cheddar is still undergoing heavy development so snippets are subject to change but that shouldn't happen anytime soon Due to the fact Chedd...

Cheddar's showcase!

Monking

I didn't think this would be that controversial

Bad answers are bad

docs.google.com/forms/d/…

Hilarious

11:31 PM

Starting writing a function to split delimited strings in SQL, non-golfed "clean" version is 1,371 bytes no counting any code documentation

@Phrancis monking

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@Phrancis do all you CR people do that? :D

and me

A lot of us do

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yes, it's a CR meme.

11:36 PM

but do I count as CR person?

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A: What's a Zombie? And what are the many other memes of Code Review?

Meme: Monking Originator: Morwenn Cultural Height: The 2nd Monitor Background: A morning greeting to the Monkey doing his monkey-business, in other words: monking Examples: A small chat search Variations: Monkernoon, Monkevening, Monknight, ... Important is only that it begins with Monk... ;...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata I knew that, but I didn't know if they actually did it

@EasterlyIrk Well, you've posted there are hang out in chat pretty often, so I don't see why not

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=monking&room=8595

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

omigersh

it's like my o?[hbk]ais

11:39 PM

What's a CR person?

Code Review user

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Code Review entity

Code Reviewer

Oh. I'm on code review, but I rarely ever use it.

Behold, the horror, string parsing in SQL: gist.github.com/Phrancis/a8b9d827f8d8d3a9a2411aa7f84c55f3

11:40 PM

My first gold badge on the network was from Code Review.

Probably because I hang out here more often than not.

@Phrancis :D

@Phrancis ._.

@Phrancis Thank you for not shouting at me with your SQL.

IKR^^

i don't even sql much and that is awful

11:41 PM

I really with you hadn't mixed tabs and spaces though

the S in SQL is for shout

Well, the code reads pretty decent all things considered, it's just that SQL was not designed for this at all so it's kind of a hack :D

What do you use to indent?

4 space indents? I can't tell

In that code he mixed tabs and 4-space indents

Oh that's why

11:42 PM

I'm just not very good at giving advice

Oh, yeah, I didn't have the right setting in SSMS at first, I need to replace tabs with spaces

random huge xkcd of the day

@Phrancis Ah, OK.

@Dennis Can you please pull 05AB1E?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat Edit Cheddar showcase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I did

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:43 PM

whoops

@quartata fixed

Mmm, cheesy chicken and rice...

@Phrancis I think you mean spaces with tabs???

@Adnan Done.

Stop talking about food you're gonna make me hungry and I'll eat myself out of house and home

11:45 PM

@Dennis Thanks :)

@EasterlyIrk I thought you liked spaces

@quartata But.... it was good...

@quartata ._.

What's happening to you you're starting to like JS and tabs

@EasterlyIrk I hate tabs

11:45 PM

i never liked spaces

who are you what have you done with riker

Good for golfing but that's about it

no seriously i never liked spaces

@Phrancis They're good for organizing notebooks, too, right?

@EasterlyIrk D:D

11:46 PM

@Geobits indeed

Feb 9 at 2:37, by RikerW

@AlexA. DON"T SUPPORT THE MENACE THAT IS SPACES FOR INDENTATION

@Phrancis And organizing code ;)

clearly you edited that

chat.stackexchange.com/messages/27437343/history

obvious photoshop

11:46 PM

nope

DOWN WITH SPACES

UP WITH TABS

Problem I see with tabs, personally, is they don't render the same on all platforms (that's possibly the point of them, but annoying)

true

Yea... that's the point of them :P

But tabs are designed to indent stuff. Why don't you use them for their purpose?

@EasterlyIrk Tabs are an archaic leftover from typewriters

11:48 PM

Tabs are great on typewriters

Because they don't work well for that purpose in code

> :D

:D

@quartata D:

@EasterlyIrk It's the truth

ALL IS TAB

Those are the same typewriters where you had to hit carriage return and then newline

11:48 PM

aka windows?

@QPaysTaxes And ruby mandates two spaces which I love

@EasterlyIrk No, actual typewriters

I was joking.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I use two spaces when coding on notepad. that's it

Two spaces is objectively just the right amount of whitespace

Four spaces just feels like too much

@QPaysTaxes I do that as well, which is why I can never use Go

11:49 PM

@QPaysTaxes D:

@AlexA. D:

@QPaysTaxes 4 spaces is Python standard

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Tabs for the rest?

@quartata You should set your tabs to display as two spaces then :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk No, I use goats when I can.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :DDDDDD :3 <3 BESTEST BUDDY

11:50 PM

@Geobits But if I upload them anywhere else they'll display as four or eight spaces

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ other than that... ;P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@EasterlyIrk Tabs are the best.

@EasterlyIrk <3

@quartata Yep, and when I look at your code, it'll display the way I like it ;)

user image

we rule for meta consensus... :P

@QPaysTaxes That's really bizarre. Had you mixed indentation? In IDLE, the IDE that ships with Python, you can set your indentation and it even says in there "Python standard is 4 spaces!" (exclamation point and all).

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:50 PM

^^ XD

Using tabs is a bad idea in Lisp in particular

also:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wtf

that was a ad. wtf

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

oh

11:51 PM

@EasterlyIrk O_o

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

its for people w/ dry eyes

@Downgoat ikr

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

16 secs ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

its for people w/ dry eyes

oh okai

makes sense

brb

@EasterlyIrk Yeah, I really don't understand why this is so controversial.

11:52 PM

This should remove any element in my array that has the same id as the object that's invoking the function right?:

aliens=aliens.filter(function(i){ return (i.uniqueID != this.uniqueID)});

I think people are thinking of really upvoted quirky charming answers

These flat out suck.

They're usually something like:

@quartata Same. Clearly everyone should agree with me.

I don't mean to beg for upvotes, but pls:

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A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

Cheddar Cheddar is a high-level, functional + object-oriented programming language designed to make programming easier, faster, and more intuitive. Cheddar is still undergoing heavy development so snippets are subject to change but that shouldn't happen anytime soon. Due to the fact Chedd...

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@QPaysTaxes ik, I normally wouldn't, but I want the game to work on browser.

@AlexA. cmon Alex =/

11:53 PM

#<some language>, x bytes

print(file)

hahaha save in file called Hello, World! you didn't say we couldn't do that

@AlexA. ;_;

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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A: Showcase your language one vote at a time

Jolf 0-vote Factoid: Jolf is my personal utility language, and is sometimes suited for golfing; it was created mainly out of frustration trying to learn Pyth. 1-vote τ Jolf is encoded in ISO-8859-7, the Greek encoding. Not only is this one character, but it is also one byte. This stands for...

@QPaysTaxes oh WebGL or whatever?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

As long as we're doing this

still need a 9 vote o_O

@QPaysTaxes please don't make your users all install a plugin just to visit your website

perfect way to kill traffic

11:54 PM

Unity doesn't require a plugin

It's not flash

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

it does

Just use Pepper and OpenGL ES

Are you sure?

Oh. I guess I already have the plugin then.

It has a new export to WebGL thing.

Dunno.

I just remember someone mentioning it

@QPaysTaxes Oh I never knew this. Well I actually don't know c++ or c# so yeah I'd have to learn but I'll look into it

This should remove any element in my array that has the same id as the object that's invoking the function right?:

aliens=aliens.filter(function(i){ return (i.uniqueID != this.uniqueID)});

please ^ @Downgoat

11:56 PM

C# is pretty similar to Java, you shouldn't have too much trouble.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AshwinGupta yes

wait

@AshwinGupta yes

@quartata this I've heard. I'll try to learn some c#, may be useful since I use windows.

Ty Conor and Downgoat.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

np :D

So that means the problem is something else =/

ughh

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

11:56 PM

wait

nvm

stop doing that!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

sorry

double negatives

much confuse

you are giving me hope that you are about to solve the problem lol.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ikr

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

sowee ._.

I got a downvote on my jolf showcase question XD

well it doesn't

its evil.

It doesn't listen to me =/

11:59 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Seriously? Why?

@QPaysTaxes No, you should do what your code tells you to do.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata some bigot probably didn't like me sharing stuff in chat

Will someone answer?:

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Q: Which switches are on?

Introduction You are sitting with your coworker, having lunch, and bragging to him/her about the latest and supposedly greatest project you've been working on. Getting sick and tired of your constant showcase of egoism, he/she gives you a challenge just so you'll shut up. Being the egoistic and ...

code-golf string

@QPaysTaxes thats what I'm trying to do LOL. When a missile hits the alien, it needs to remove itself from the array of aliens.

@QPaysTaxes Don't say that. He's right here!

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