hahaha it's true

@El'endiaStarman It is amazing to think you can fit as many dots as the resolution will allow and they'll never collide :)

How much more logical would Spock be if he spoke Lojban?

@poi830 but, i mean, who cares about non-lojban speakers, right?

@You 11/10 logic overflow

Oooh, that makes me think - @Doorknob, are there puns in Lojban?

puns as in wordplay?

Lojpuns

Mostly, yeah.

Wouldn't puns not be logical?

Though some jokes/puns are due to homophones.

ಠ_ಠ

^

@El'endiaStarman well, re ctuca-type words exist

Who cares about good puns? As long as you can still make bad puns...

what if i like ambiguity? /s

Puns that rely on lexical, phonetic, or syntactic ambiguity don't exist, though

@trichoplax I'm so punny.

@poi830 Lojban does support semantic ambiguity

hooray

As in, you can be ambiguous, if you want to

No passive-aggressive? :(

@You I didn't realise I had another account...

@Doorknob I have no idea what any of these words mean. :P

@trichoplax Wait, let me introduce you to my friends @Me and @Us.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ active-agressive.

huh?

@Quill: You got me into Code Review, haha

@ZachGates ಠ_ಠ

@flawr :|

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What's to disapprove of

Idk

@ZachGates :D

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ಠ_ಠ

rofl

cdc.gov/niosh/mining/UserFiles/works/pdfs/2009-145.pdf

why does that have more than 100 pages...

@El'endiaStarman okay, take for example notci + ma: tcima

@Quill :D

@ZachGates Wow. I'm surprised that "Please tell me ways I can improve this code to be more efficient." got an upvote.

The phrase {notci ma} means "what is the message about?" (see: notci)

@Rainbolt I know, right?

@You This is your hobby, and that's perfectly fine.

and the phrase {no tcima} means "zero weather" (interpret that as you will...)

@ZachGates very nice answer +1

@ZachGates :D

@EasterlyIrk So you're the avocado email guy

@Doorknob but thats not really funny in any way

what?

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yeah, but I don't do anything. I have an app to finish! :\

Anyway, penultimate emphasis ({NOtci ma} vs. {no TCIma}) makes this unambiguous when spoken, but you can still do some stuff kind of similar to puns with that

@You Oh. Good luck.

@poi830 yeah I just chose a random one from the list. It didn't turn out to make any sense, but... :P

@Doorknob Ah, huh, interesting.

@EasterlyIrk Aren't you the person who sent me an email pretending to be a nigerian prince?

@BernardMeurer wtf

@Doorknob me + at: meat

@Quill Thanks! It took a little bit to write, and I wasn't sure if I was being too long-winded :P

meat is a food

@You D:

@EasterlyIrk Lel, sec, I'll take a print

me at describes yourself in a situation

wordplay

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Wait, I don't have a gun. :)

@You :D

@BernardMeurer rofl

I'll be back in a little bit; more things I need to do ;-;

bai

bai

@EasterlyIrk Are you R.W.?

@El'endiaStarman Also, this happens to be hilarious if you know Lojban. :P ^^

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I have been talking to myself using the skype chat.

@BernardMeurer maybe

yes

I confess.

@Doorknob Is it translatable/explainable or do we need to learn?

I sent the email. :P

@EasterlyIrk I forgot that

@Doorknob This probably says something anti-kitten, doesn't it? >:O

^^

rough translation: "I am a lolcat, and I make lol-words." You really have to know Lojban to get the full effect though haha

rofl

Say, I wonder if we could golf conlangs in a similar way as we golf programming languages, especially when it comes to CJam, Pyth, and Jelly. As in, can we (given sufficient time and resources) determine a way to assign meanings to words such that they are always unambiguous in context? Like, if we had one word foo mean both "car" and "time", then "the foo is green" could only mean that the car is green, since it doesn't make sense to describe time as green.

> Go away downgoat :p

@BernardMeurer oh that

:P

@Doorknob Why did that make me laugh?

@EasterlyIrk THAT

:p

:p

I might have sent that.

@Doorknob i'm laughing right now, but out of confusion moreso than anything else

On an unrelated note

any C++ wiz around?

Okay, I'll take a shot at explaining it...

Specially a boost wiz

u'i is the attitudinal for "laughter/amusement"

mla is a rafsi of mlatu, the word for cat. Rafsi are combined to form lujvo, sort of "compound words"

@poi830 That's because of the meanings that "9" has.

(actually the rafsi is lat but that's not relevant)

@El'endiaStarman right, but I'm saying it might be impossible to actually shorten the language like that

So, u'imla kind of means "lolcat"

@poi830 Only way to find out for sure is to try!

Similarly, vla is the rafsi of valsi, "word" (found in lujvo such as {brivla}, predicate-word, aka verb)

@El'endiaStarman i don't have nearly enough patience for that

So u'ivla could translate to "joke word" (and it itself is an u'ivla, since you can't validly use u'i as a rafsi. These are all fu'ivla technically, borrowed words, because u'ivla is not a valid lujvo by itself)

And therein lies the secondary pun, the similarity of u'ivla to fu'ivla

... it really is hard to explain

> The word u'ivla is itself an u'ivla, as it is an unconventional portmanteau of u'i and -vla- (a rafsi of valsi) and also a pun on the word fu'ivla. Another example is u'imla.

Could you have puns that work because if you automatically translate into another language and then back again you get a different meaning?

that joke seems pretty ambiguous to me

/s

@trichoplax Hmmm, possibly...

oh, speaking of u'ivla, how about the definition of besto :D

I prefer the translation version. :)

@trichoplax it would obviously depend on the translator you used

What if we create puns that make no sense and aren't funny, but it's funny to us because we know that?

@poi830 yeah...

@BernardMeurer Wait, I'll make one! (Pun unintended.)

@You See, lel

@poi830 you're too fast

"I am a lolcat, and I make lol-words."

it just sounds so absurd out of context

Door "I am a lolcat, and I make lol-words." Knob

Yeah it's not really translatable to English

Will trade puns for C++ tips

Oh I love apache. "Oh you want that 404 document? I have a better idea, let me enter recursion until I crash."

404 document not found?

Too meta

What happens if you can't find a 404? Is there a 404²?

That's a 500.

void getPun()
{
    if (userThatMadeThePun == "You")
    {
        throw new PunTooBadException()
    }
    // et cetera...
}

@mınxomaτ Ah, I was hoping for a 163216

does anyone here play melee

@poi830 As in hitting people on the street? Sure

@BernardMeurer Fun for the whole family.

@BernardMeurer that too

@poi830 Well, what isn't fun about hitting people? Heck, you could get a date!

Ugh, my teenage neighbor started a "rock band".

I think my code works...

@Dennis *Mineral.

@Dennis yeah, guitar hero is clearly superior

@Dennis Have you heard the holy word of our lord and savior DYNAMITE?!

Anyone here is familiar with c++ multithreading by any chance?

Well, that depends on the framework. Windows threads? pthreads?

@Dennis You should join. \m/

I loved being in a band as a teenager. I was from about age 14-20, then 22-23. Gotta kick out them jams, son.

@AlexA. What happened to your thumb??

I know a bit about c++11 threads

@AlexA. They're "playing music" right now. I want to step by and "choke them until they stop".

hahahaha

@Dennis This might produce dubstep.

@Dennis Parabolic sound reflector?

@Dennis I'll give you some ear-muffins for 5¢. Garenteed to work!

@Dennis just play their own music back louder at a 1/4 second delay to confuse them

> ear muffins

mmmmm

I have a 2000W RMS stereo. I should point it at their house.

The hovertext refers to the previous comic about parabolic dishes...

Well, it contains r34 xkcd... xkcd.com/316

Please don't look if you're still innocent.

@mınxomaτ Boost threads

I'm out.

@You And the hovertext on that one points out that I was wrong to suggest parabolic...

@TonHospel Would you know how to create non-blocking threads?

Sigh, all I want is a parallel ackermann calculator

to set my computer on fire

@BernardMeurer MUAHAHAHA!!!

Now comes the next Windows virus.

Linux is protected because it's smart enough not to run it. :)

Linux keeps spitting SIGSEGV at my single-threaded one

Tell Linux that spitting is impolite

@Bernard: A typical way is to use: future_object = std::async(std::launch::async, fun, params);

Linux is named after someone proudly impolite

I'm even using arbitrary precision variables (boost::multiprecision)

(this is C++11 threads, not boost threads)

@TonHospel That's my issue, it's relying on std, that can cause issues when integrating with boost sometimes

I wanted a pure boost solution

@Bernard: Then I'm absolutely not the person to ask

@TonHospel Thanks anyway :)

Currently running valgrind to figure this SIGSEGV out

bloody memory safety

blocking my adventure

@Doorknob .i ti xagmau la jbovlaste

I actually don't know the word for "thanks." Is there an attitudinal for it?

vocative, ki'e

OK, cool.

@QPaysTaxes sure

@Doorknob .i mi viska la besto .uanaicai

Has anyone actually used that in a sentence

haha no it's a joke gismu

They deserve a medal if so

there's also vlasisku.lojban.org/vlasisku/fengrfu which is more practical

@QPaysTaxes hmmm... I've never used StringScanner before (I haven't even heard of it)

Oh no day 1 into lojban and I'm already learning new creative ways to swear at people

@Doorknob I've heard of it but I don't know what it does

@quartata I didn't learn swear words that fast. :(

@quartata to express a "curse" on someone (opposite of "well-wish"), you can use di'ai nai

Pastebin's Ruby highlighting color palette is atrocious

as in, {di'ai nai do na cilre fi la jbobau}

@Doorknob I got the best solution! --[----->+<]>.-[--->+<]>--.[--->+<]>.----[->+++<]>.[->++++++<]>.----------.-----------.[->+++<]>--.... (Stop f**king my brain, brainf***!)

@QPaysTaxes hmm, okay. I'm not sure how much I'll be able to help, but Stack Overflow might be of assistance

@Doorknob .i'enai

Were you testing to see if I was paying attention or something

@quartata that sentence wasn't directed at you haha

sorry, I meant that that could be said to someone else

It says "I curse you to not learning the Lojban language" right?

no

Oh

it says, "curse you for not learning Lojban!"-ish

I don't get it then

@Doorknob oh

Oh I see

@QPaysTaxes What

.ua nai

おねがします！

@QPaysTaxes You it is nailed to the Bing

@Doorknob Wait, the modifier has a space between it?

I'm super dumb

it doesn't have to

all cmavo can be squished together

ok

How many possible gismu are there? There's only 200,000 possible ones right?

so {mi pu zi ze'i va ve'u na citka} is equivalent to {mipuzize'ivave'una citka} but you'd have to be insane to say it the latter way

@Doorknob eek

Anyways, what happens when they run out of possible gismu?

Probably won't happen for a while but

There's only about 1200 total IIRC (not counting experimental)

Huh.

That's deemed enough to express any possible idea because lujvo/tanru

I have no idea what those things are

any possible idea?

ok not any ಠ_ಠ

1342 official gismu

@quartata plise: apple. tricu: tree. pilse tricu: apple tree

margin of error>10%

@Doorknob Oh, well OK.

so'i: many. prenu: person. karce: car/vehicle. sorprekarce: bus (lit. many-person-car)

haha

so are all the combinations that are allowed given a definition?

mi de'a zvati to mi citka toi

because it seems like they could be interpreted differently if they aren't

@poi830 no, in fact, making up words on the spot is very common (c.f. za'e)

@Doorknob (I [pause] attend (I eat))

ok so it seems like that would add a lot of ambiguity

also did you just reply yourself

@Doorknob I knew what you meant :P

enjoy your foods

(OK, well I didn't quite know what you meant. I had to look up citka real quick)

But I figured it out before you posted the translation and that's what matters