The Nineteenth Byte

Hey this is off topic: but considering that we are never on topic anyways, should I learn c# or c++. For windows desktop applications and games. (Just for fun)

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

5:12 AM

@AshwinGupta Everyone I know uses Java. So I guess use Java

Ashwin Gupta

I'm currently sorta inclined towards c# since the syntax is a lot more like Java's which I am familiar with.

I already know the basics of Java(mostly)

I wanted to learn a "c' language for windows specific stuff.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

High tech chart showing my frustrations

Ashwin Gupta

LOL

I can't believe you wasted time in making that.

El'endia Starman

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ That "horizontal" axis really bothers me.

Ashwin Gupta

Well I am gonna give him the benefit of the doubt in guessing he used windows paint or something without a line tool.

El'endia Starman

5:16 AM

You could've used the straight line tool!

Ashwin Gupta

^^

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@El'endiaStarman I tried but my mouse is out of battery so I can't make it straight

@El'endiaStarman what straight line tool

Ashwin Gupta

What software did you use downgoat?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@AshwinGupta ms paint

Ashwin Gupta

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Are you in college? Or high-school, or middle-school?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

5:18 AM

fixed it

Ashwin Gupta

There you go...

that shows more effort.

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman Straight line drawing skills also decrease as a function of time

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@AshwinGupta yes

Ashwin Gupta

Except the connection between the two lines is bad.

B-

Alex A.

haha

Ashwin Gupta

5:18 AM

At best.

More like a C++

(See what I did there?)

Alex A.

Yes, I C what you did there.

Ashwin Gupta

Yeah for C puns.

El'endia Starman

There's a veritable C of them...

Alex A.

I need glasses because I can't C#.

Ashwin Gupta

Oh that's the java joke.

Why do java devs wear glasses?

Because they can't c#.

TanMath

5:20 AM

rofl

Ashwin Gupta

See how context made that one funnier.

@TanMath sarcasm I hope?

Alex A.

HAH. (Though the more likely explanation is that they need to use the JVM rather than .NET for whatever reason)

TanMath

no...it is seriously funny...

hello BTW!

Ashwin Gupta

well thanks, I stole it off the internet.

Hello.

TanMath

not anymore funny... :P

you stole it!

Ashwin Gupta

5:21 AM

Yup

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

There

now it's all perfect

Ashwin Gupta

Ahaha!

El'endia Starman

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Beautiful. Flawless. Except for two moles.

Ashwin Gupta

A-, because lack of creativity in like width, and font.

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@AshwinGupta So should I use Comic Sans :p

Ashwin Gupta

5:22 AM

Oh darn its so small.

Quill

@El'endiaStarman you don't

Ashwin Gupta

Yeah

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Or wingdings preferably.

TanMath

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A: Expand the number

Python 2, 216 210 196 175 bytes Here is some slightly golfed code that I will golf further when I get time. It uses string analysis. i=input().split(".") I=i[0] e=enumerate o=[(k+len(I[j+1::])*"0") for j,k in e(I) if k!="0"] try:o+=["."+l*"0"+m for l,m in e(i[1]) if m!="0"] except:0 print "+"....

golfing help!

Alex A.

Someone should make a fixed-width version of Comic Sans for the sole purpose of writing DogeScript and LOLCODE.

Ashwin Gupta

@TanMath that's pretty good.

Id help you but I am probably 10x worse at python then you (at least.)

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

5:25 AM

@AlexA. someone has... I've seen it tweeted before. I just have to find it....

found it:

github.com/belluzj/fantasque-sans

Ashwin Gupta

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/69734/47680 See how big my answer is compared to everyone else.

TanMath

@AshwinGupta i can see...

Ashwin Gupta

Lol

TanMath

no offense, but your python 3 answer for eenie miny mini moe is not really actual python....did you test it?

because print() is meaningless without an argument!

Ashwin Gupta

What do you mean not really actual python?

Works on mines]

It just prints a blank line.

TanMath

5:27 AM

not needed then...

why do you need a blank line????

Alex A.

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ i actually like this ;-;

Ashwin Gupta

Well its not exactly a blank line that I need

its a new line

Its so I can sepearte

I can't explain it just read the challenge.

TanMath

oh i see...

Ashwin Gupta

Yeah.

Btw image above shows what empty print() does

Might be a new thing in python3?

TanMath

see, print() is new in python 3...

before it was like print "your string here"

Alex A.

5:30 AM

In Python 2 you can get it with from __future__ import print_function or something like that.

Ashwin Gupta

Oh okay

TanMath

or print #something here...number, list, anything!

Ashwin Gupta

You know I thought id give MS edge a fair shot since I just updated to W10 and I always hated explorer, but I still hate it.

TanMath

@AlexA. who would use that??

Alex A.

print() does work in Python 2, it just doesn't do the same thing.

TanMath

5:31 AM

@AshwinGupta lol

Ashwin Gupta

Its speed is about as fast as chrome but other then that in terms of functionality its pretty crap.

TanMath

@AlexA. what does it do?

Ashwin Gupta

You can't even open an image in a new darn tab.

TanMath

print an empty tuple or something?

Alex A.

Yes

Ashwin Gupta

5:31 AM

I found it.

TanMath

well that is a different story...

Ashwin Gupta

827

Q: What is your best programmer joke?

When I teach introductory computer science courses, I like to lighten the mood with some humor. Having a sense of fun about the material makes it less frustrating and more memorable, and it's even motivating if the joke requires some technical understanding to 'get it'! I'll start off with a cou...

language-agnostic

Alex A.

@TanMath Python 3's print() function has arguments you can pass to it for convenience that aren't available in Python 2's print statement, hence the import.

Ashwin Gupta

I love this post.

Literally can't stop laughing on some of these jokes.

Okay bye everyone!

Good luck doing your work @Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@AshwinGupta oh yeah, I should probably leave so I can get it done, bye

TanMath

5:36 AM

@AshwinGupta you should probably do print(w[x]+"\n") and remove the lone print()

i am not sure if it works...it should!

orlp

The 49th Mersenne prime has been found

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TanMath

how is this relevant?

it is math. so it is on-topic...

you see, this is an off-topic chatroom!

El'endia Starman

> Dr. Cooper's computer reported the prime in GIMPS on September 17, 2015 but it remained unnoticed until routine maintenance data-mined it. The official discovery date is the day a human took note of the result. This is in keeping with tradition as M4253 is considered never to have been the largest known prime number because Hurwitz in 1961 read his computer printout backwards and saw M4423 was prime seconds before seeing that M4253 was also prime.

This tradition quite amuses me.

orlp

gfycat.com/EarnestEqualAlpinegoat

El'endia Starman

[blink] :O

Quill

5:45 AM

@El'endiaStarman lol

TanMath

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A: Eeny, meeny, miny, moe

Python 2, 154 bytes i=input() s="Eeny meeny miny moe Catch a tiger by the toe If he hollers let him go Eeny meeny miny MOE!".split() for j in range(i):print ' '.join(s[j::i]) This uses the trick that [0::n] prints the nth element of the list. Try it here

Neat little trick I found out that I used!

Dennis

6:14 AM

I outgolfed jimmy23013. o_O I don't think that had happened before...

Alex A.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You outgolfing anyone doesn't surprise me.

You're a meme for a reason, you know.

Dennis

Jimmy has proven more than once that he can outgolf me by a large margin. Meme or not.

This time, I saved 25% over his approach, so I'm quite happy.

Alex A.

6:30 AM

Granted, he's a meme too, but for a different reason.

isaacg

I think this is first time I've successfully used s on a mixed list of ints and strings:

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A: Code (Mini) Golf

Pyth, 27 bytes .Am<sXsd"_\ /"[1_4Z5)Q._C.z Demonstration This code does something very clever and not at all type-safe with X. Check it out below. Explanation: .Am<sXsd"_\ /"[1_4Z5)Q._C.z Implicit: Z = 0, Q = eval(input()) Q is t...

Alex A.

@isaacg +1 for "not at all type safe"

Quill

7:00 AM

well that makes number 2 code golf

code golf is pretty cool

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

7:20 AM

It's amazing how much work you get done when you're off PPCG

Quill

7:37 AM

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A: Code licensing proposal — Point of order!

The second proposal was a gaffe, which I'd like to explain in a bit more depth. I've said this in so many words in comments in various places, it's important to get it down in one place coherently. The enormity of the project, this giant thing full of so many variables and so much uncertainty h...

FlagAsSpam

8:18 AM

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A: Wifi turns off and refuses to turn back on on MacBook Pro Retina with OS X El Capitan

My AirPort Wireless card was broken Turns out a spider crawled into my computer, nested itself under the wireless card, and died in direct contact with the wireless card. Go figure. The guy who looked at it said there was water damage (ew), and, after disabling the wireless card (software-wise),...

^ My problem. :c

Quill

2 days ago, by Quill

might be a faulty network card

FlagAsSpam

@Quill Oh, hush.

At least I know, now.

zyabin101

8:50 AM

@ThomasKwa There's more than Flippy Bit... Check out <http://quento.com/>

Also, wow long url PogChamp

zyabin101

9:08 AM

Do we have a "Fibonacci series" catalogue here?

It looks we have a "Fibonacci series" challenge, but not catalogue. Would it not be a duplicate of the challenge if a catalogue would be posted?

Katenkyo

@zyabin101 There's 100+ answers actually, it would be a mess to lose everything. Maybe turn the old one into a catalog (after asking the OP)

Optimizer

9:40 AM

OP is a catalogue pro.

Sp3000

@zyabin101 @Katenkyo Martin's had plans to do so since Chris gave the thumbs up: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/7224/…

Katenkyo

@Sp3000 So let's wait the rework then :)

Katenkyo

10:07 AM

It's funny how my fibonacci sequence is good untill the 91st term, but conitnue until the 347th without exiting because overflows keep it alive ^^

mınxomaτ

10:27 AM

Anyone here ever used OrderPP? It's a pretty sick collection of macros that enables you to solve complex tasks in the preprocessor phase using a (semi-)functional syntax in C: 99 Bottles example

deostroll

11:07 AM

anyone aware of the protex problem $x = b^p$

find max value of p given x?

primo

i imagine b∈ℕ ?

deostroll

11:23 AM

$b >=1 \space and \space b \space \epsilon \space N$

zyabin101

11:44 AM

@deostroll It doesn't work.

deostroll

E.g Say x = 17, prime number...in this case p = 1

x = 25, max value of p = 2, since $5^2 = 25$

x = 1073741824, p = 30, since $2^{30} = 1073741824$

quintopia

1:05 PM

argh i fell asleep with my shoulder on a corner or something otherwise hard. it's gonna be screaming all day.

Katenkyo

@quintopia just woke up or took a nap?

quintopia

just woke up

but i woke to find my nonographic magnitude optimizer had finished maximizing. so that's done.

Katenkyo

Well done !

mınxomaτ

2:29 PM

@Sherlock9 Are we there yet?

Sherlock9

2:47 PM

@mınxomaτ With the semimagic squares? I don't have a surefire method yet. Let me get back to it

Ashwin Gupta

@El'endiaStarman Dr. Cooper? Like in big-bang theory? I love that show.

Seeq

I finally downloaded Mathemagica! \o/

zyabin101

@Seeq How'd you do it? You may also check out Mathics.

quintopia

3:43 PM

@Sherlock9 The hardest part is enforcing uniqueness, but I think that could be solved just by deciding on a pattern for the order of each row/column. If a pattern can be found that works for all n, that is taken care of. My thinking is that a circulant matrix with 1..n in order in each row will always be a magic square, and so the pairwise order relationship that describes could always work.

I haven't proven or tested that theory, of course

mınxomaτ

Also there has to be a real name for this. Some edited that "semimagic square" term into the challenge, but imo it doesn't really fit.

Rainbolt

Wow. My office suddenly got really serious. Someone (or perhaps multiple people) are having trouble hitting the inside of the toilet when they pee. Last year, we were all politely asked to be careful and to clean up after ourselves. Just now we were asked to immediately report any fluid on the floor, so that they can check the cameras to see who preceded us, because the problem has not gone away.

Desperate times call for desperate measures I suppose

Optimizer

wow

weirdest of policies happen at your workplace

Geobits

Hopefully it gets resolved. Next step is a full time monitoring system.

Rainbolt

Apparently they have called a plumber four times, and every single time the plumber says that there is no leak

RikerW

3:57 PM

@quartata Oops....

Sorry.

Optimizer

or a personal escort inside the toilet

RikerW

Next time I will genocide something else.

TimmyD

From an outsider's perspective, Rainbolt, that's hilarious.

RikerW

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Cool.

TimmyD

I feel sorry for you, but that's funny.

RikerW

3:58 PM

^

I feel bad for the offenders....

Geobits

I don't. How hard is it to hit a toilet?

Rainbolt

I appreciate the sentiment. Next time I really need to go, if I see fluid on the floor, I have to walk to the other end of the building.

It's going to be tough

RikerW

Okay.

We will remember your plight everytime we use the bathroom.

quartata

@Rainbolt ...

RikerW

@quartata recommended monster to genocide?

For a monk.

Geobits

4:00 PM

(Not so) simple solution: Get yourself a colostomy bag. No more bathroom visits.

RikerW

lol

TimmyD

@RikerW I think this may be a situation where "... and one for my homies ..." is inappropriate, though.

quartata

@RikerW what's your race?

RikerW

Human.

Geobits

Looks like a cat to me.

RikerW

4:02 PM

wat?

quintopia

@quartata To the bathroom, we presume

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RikerW

Why would I genocide cats?

Geobits

No, I mean your race is cat. Judging from the avatar.

RikerW

Oh, okay.

Geobits

Why would you genocide humans?

quartata

4:02 PM

@RikerW Probably liches (L).

RikerW

No, but I got 3.

@Geobits BC FREE STUFF FROM SHOP!!! :P

Plus stupidity.

quartata

Mind flayers are another one but you might want them as a pet, dunno.

RikerW

A pet mind flayer?

quartata

Yes.

RikerW

How do you tame stuff?

quartata

4:03 PM

Spellz

RikerW

@quartata Well, they are pretty OP sometimes.

Geobits

All this talk of genocide lately...

quartata

@RikerW Pet mind flayers are pretty common pets for mid game

RikerW

Sorry, I am insane and trying to destroy the planet.

@quartata What about end-game?

Baby orange dragons?

quartata

They're still useful end-game but they can be annoying while fighting the Wizard of Yendor

RikerW

4:04 PM

@quartata How so?

quartata

wake him up

Sherlock9

I am coming back into this conversation with no context, so "genocide" what now?

quartata

@Sherlock9 nethack

RikerW

In nethack, you can almost completely eliminate a monster race from the game.

Sherlock9

Remind me, what's nethack about?

zyabin101

4:06 PM

@quartata was Ninja'd by @RikerW

quartata

@RikerW You CAN eliminate them without a scroll of genocide too (120 monsters born = extinct)

Geobits

@Sherlock9 Think any other game, but worse.

Sherlock9

@zyabin101 I saw that Riker was ninja'd by quartata

quartata

@Sherlock9 Think the world's most complicated rogue-like

Ampora

No one should go on a genocide route. A pacifist route is much better.

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quartata

4:09 PM

@Ampora this isn't undertale

Ampora

Undertale teaches us many lessons about life as a whole, that being one of them.

quartata

Pacifist nethack is possible but hard as shit

Foodless is easier

and that's saying a lot

For the record, pacifist usually involves letting your pet kill enemies for you so it isn't very pacifist anyways

actually furthermore I believe scrolls of genocide can be used without interrupting pacifist conduct

So you can genocide and still be a pacifist

Ampora

I did the pacifist run in Undertale but the character in my profile pic wanted to commit genocide so... :P

undergroundmonorail

my friend tried because she's a bad person but she gave up against (i don't have to end this sentence you can figure it out)

quartata

papyrus?

I don't know why a lot of people say that's where they give up

I didn't find it that mushy gushy but then again maybe I'm just a terrible person

I personally found undyne a lot more sad

quintopia

4:23 PM

@Ampora how about a little extra rep for us?

I don't think anyone is trying to beat my answer here: codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/64486/47050

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From a challenge in a programming book long ago, PNZ is a game where the user must guess three unique digits in the correct order. Rules: A random 3 digit number with no repeating digits is generated. (This is what the user is trying to guess) The user inputs a guess of 3 digits, which is to b...

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RikerW

ARGHH!

I can't see anybody's icon!

undergroundmonorail

weird

RikerW

Well, I can see some.

Like yours, but Dennis, Martin, Ampora, and Legionmammal's are invisible.

Plus others.

undergroundmonorail

4:39 PM

you may be having a gravatar issue

Geobits

Or a ninja issue

undergroundmonorail

i think the last time someone was seeing invisible icons it was a gravatar issue

RikerW

Welp, I think Legionmamal actually has a white square for his.

TimmyD

Gravinja

quartata

If you can see mine, it's a gravatar problem. If you can't, it's an imgur problem.

TimmyD

4:41 PM

Ninjatar

RikerW

BTW Can somebody ELI5 Undertale?

TimmyD

Ninjavatar

Geobits

Mine's a gravatar also.

RikerW

ninja?

I has my own image.

(imgur)

TimmyD

NINJava.tar ... Trent Reznor releases a new album published in Java

quartata

4:42 PM

@RikerW Undertale is quasi-turn-based Japanese RPG. It's most notable for being "the game where you don't have to kill anyone."

RikerW

Okay.

Geobits

@TimmyD That pun... it Hurt.

quartata

Undertale

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The Wikipedia article for Undertale is actually surprisingly good which is unusual

TimmyD

@Geobits Hey, around here, Every Day Is Exactly the Same.

RikerW

Wow.

Geobits

4:45 PM

@TimmyD That feels Closer to the truth, but I get the feeling it's still just a Terrible Lie.

RikerW

Hey, I know that song from accidentally googling nin on my way to the here (the ninteenth byte)!

:P

Sherlock9

In addition to being a game where you don't have to kill anyone, it is a game best played without spoilers. Which sucks for me, because I still haven't finished it and I know 70% of the story by now from seeing random stuff on the Internet

RikerW

Okay.

Should I play it?

Sherlock9

Yep

RikerW

How much $?

quartata

4:47 PM

I still enjoyed it with spoilers.

@RikerW $10

RikerW

Okay.

ANd @quartata it was more free stuff than shopkeepers are annoying.

quartata

@RikerW That's what pets are for

But OK

RikerW

Oh, I do.

I wanted more free stuff after my pet stole a polymorph control ring

Sherlock9

@quartata Thanks for that reassurance. I have enjoyed it as well, so far. I will continue it when I have finished answers to the moon phase challenge and the semimagic square problem

RikerW

I actually found the genocide scroll from my old grave.

I thought they become cursed?

quartata

4:49 PM

@RikerW They can not always

Keep it anyways

cursed genocide scrolls are actually very useful

RikerW

Welp, too late.

I used it and killed myself.

quartata

??

Oh you used it :P

RikerW

No, I used the blessed one and it is gone, though I found my 2 old graves.

quartata

Ah.

Shame it wasn't cursed

nethackwiki.com/wiki/Genocide#Reverse_genocide

RikerW

Like a grave of death by hill orc, and death by genocide. :P

bai now

Oh hey @Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ: stackapps.com/questions/4486/…

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