is “Learning J” down? the table of contents works but on the individual chapters i’m getting “Safari can’t open this page because it couldn’t connect to the server.”

@Someone who cares about being a "real programmer" anyways? as long as you get to code what you want to code it doesn't matter if you're considered real or not (:

and of course you can't expect to know how to do everything

i guess a "real programmer" is one who is open to learning new stuff

real programmers are able to be represented by a possibly infinite decimal expansion

can represent me, for example

@Ginger So programmers are uncountably infinite? (And somehow still not been able to solve P vs NP)

apparently :p

@Someone Tbf I didn't know what that word meant until like a year ago and I've been doing this like 8 years

You're a "real programmer" as soon as you program, and if you're in TNB, you're probably a better programmer than a lot of people

@Ginger oooh do i get to pick mine?

Polymorphism is pretty abstract and a bit hard to apply in real situations. But generally it's advised to use polymorphism over conditionals whenever possible, even in functional programing

@RubenVerg sure, you've got plenty of options

@mousetail Not necessarily, the set of real programmers can be a finite or countably infinite subset of the reals (which makes sense, otherwise we'd get real housewives and Real Donald Trump in that set)

I would watch a series with a uncountably infinite number of characters. (@netflix please hire me)

Welcome back to season sqrt(3)

the Real Housewives of Hilbert Hotel

Only a subset of the real programmers out there are rational

hang on I just remembered a message from, like, a year ago that I could make a joke about

@Ginger i would like to be the dottie number please (the solution to $\cos(x) = x$)

something something scala programmers

@RydwolfPrograms An infinitesimal small proportion of them

@RydwolfPrograms he was only a year and a half early :p

I think that took longer to send than normal

Maybe it had to do a DB lookup for a late reply and something slowed that down

cache miss?

Oh yeah maybe they use an in-RAM memory store for most of recent history? But late replies are still usually faster

And I don't think chat's that smart :p

might be a default config thing

and it wasn't super slow, maybe half a second longer than normal

Yeah, who knows. Chat's probably like one of those mazes on the backend anyway, where the more you think you know about how it works the more it shifts and changes when you're not looking

New bugs appear and disappear out of the chaos, in equal and opposite pairs. They usually get sucked back in relatively quickly, past the event horizon, but sometimes one will escape while the other falls in

The Nineteenth House Of Leaves

it's really interesting to me that the new image uploader doesn't touch text chunks... cursed out-of-band signalling, anyone? :p

That's probably better to do via ordinary steganographic techniques tho tbh

wait, hang on

Did I ever tell y'all about my totally awesome LLM-based steganography technique?

no way, APNG works!

NB: Steganography is not to be confused with Stegganography, the study of hiveminds

@Ginger Whoa neat

ok wait hang on

aw, it doesn't work for profile pictures :(

the resize parameter breaks it

sad

@RydwolfPrograms I never did fully realize just how bad most programmers are

CM(ega)C: make a PNG quine, i.e. a PNG image which displays a hexadecimal representation of itself

I think that's deserving of CMegaC :p

unfortunately, gifs don't animate in pfps either

Lmao I hit the top of the APStudents subreddit by complaining about College Board's janky printing

@Ginger a good place to start for this would be with a zlib quine for the image data

you'll probably have to brute-force the CRC32, though :p

Whoa we have five pins rn

or come up with some other way to manipulate it

it'll actually have to be a meta-quine lmao

This is like when you've just gotten out of a prolonged fight with a skeleton

@RydwolfPrograms nah, I'm just here because it's vaguely code-related

you don't need a lot of rep to be in a chatroom

and I've answered—what, two challenges? and made absolute failures of challenges of my own?

@Someone nothing stopping you from doing more :)

ah yes, pollute the question space

also, I keep getting sniped by people—most of the time when I find a challenge at my level, all the langs I'm good at were already consumed

240% on an assignment lol

My teacher just puts all the extra credit on the same assignment so it's piled up so much xD

@Someone yeah i don’t really have advice for that..i just use more obscure languages so i have less chance of collision

you can always post your solution even if somebody else has a shorter one in the same language. you can compre yours to theirs and learn from what you missed

Whoa I only need a 73 in environmental science this 6-week grading period to average out to a 90 for the semester lol