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9:00 PM

I arguably learned more having to teach others why their horrific code was bad than any good examples from my coworkers.

whatsisname

tennis has a motor-skill function that programming does not

in fact I think the fact that we have two words, mentor and coach, sheds some light on the differences

no one has tennis mentors, they have tennis coaches

Telastyn

And even that pales in comparison to failing over and over again with my personal projects.

whatsisname

but having a programming coach just sounds strange

Telastyn

It's like a life coach!

durron597

@whatsisname It's not a coach, more like apprenticeship

whatsisname

9:05 PM

im not saying there is no benefit from a mentor for programming, but there are substantial differences between various activities that affect the kinds of skills developed

enderland

@durron597 heh one of my goals for this year is specifically "apprenticeship" for the stuff I'm working with

Ampt

meetings over, pot roast almost done, whiskey in hand.... life is good (so far)

whatsisname

I have a meeting later today that entails a lot more web development in my future

enderland

hmmm, SE job applications are only CV/resumes interesting

Telastyn

Meh, web development.

whatsisname

9:19 PM

which i'm not too thrilled about but oh well

Telastyn

Better than report development.

whatsisname

there will be some of that too

me and two other guys are preparing to try to launch a retailing operation so I'll need to build out all the store and back-end software

durron597

That's the key

I have to keep telling myself "you don't have to write javascript" "you don't have to write javascript" "you don't have to write javascript" every time I'm unhappy here

whatsisname

but at least any report development will be reports that I want

Ixrec

9:37 PM

javascript's not that bad...

whatsisname

it's pretty bad

at least it's not vb6 bad

durron597

@Ixrec Array(16).join("wat" - 1) + " Batman!"

Ixrec

that was a great video

but that kind of nonsense is like undefined behavior in C++; once you know the language properly and write good code most of it is easy to avoid

durron597

@Ixrec The only thing you have to do to avoid absurd nonsense in java is avoid reflection, for the most part

You can do stupid stuff with multithreaded code but that's sort of the nature of the beast, in any language

But in javascript, like the video says, [] + {} is not commutative

Ixrec

which is very silly, but also unimportant

durron597

9:47 PM

Ixrec

which is why you always use ===, and a linter that yells at you if you use ==

you know I know all these things already =)

durron597

@Ixrec just because it's possible to be a good javascript programmer doesn't mean the language itself is good

It's possible to be a great CJam programmer. Does that mean we should write a webserver in it?

Ixrec

well, node.js is a thing...

admittedly the only reason I prefer Javascript to C++ is that at work the C++ build system only works when the planets are properly aligned

by the way, the dumb thing in Javascript that actually catches me off guard every so often is the default sort() function

[1, 2, 3, 10].sort() === [1, 10, 2, 3], obviously

durron597

Remind me again what you like about this language?

Ixrec

effortless manipulation of function and object literals, much simpler syntax/feature set compared to many other scripting languages, encourages functional style over traditional OOP, stuff like that

granted if I had the choice to work with Haskell all day or in a version of C++ with modules (since I think that'd lend itself to a non-maddening build process) I might like those just as much

but the reality right now is that I have more fun and am more productive in the Javascript code than anything else

I should probably mention that I haven't had the chance to use Java or C# in a work environment, so I have no real opinion on those yet

other than a slight concern that Java might push me towards making deep inheritance hierarchies of abstractPatternFactoryBuilders

whatsisname

10:09 PM

javascript has way more frequent landmines than C++

javascript is a travesty, really everything on the web is

Ixrec

Duga

We are doing a big cleanup of license/legal questions right now (meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/295117/…). Don't feel bad, we are just closing questions that are not a good fit for Stack Overflow. You might be able to word the question so that it would be on-topic at programmers.stackexchange.com. — JasonMArcher 41 secs ago

whatsisname

sure C++ has all kinds of gotchas and landmines, however the status-quo of complexity of a C++ app is loads greater than javascript web-apps

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Duga

11:36 PM

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is better suited for programmers.stackexchange.com — C-Pound Guru 18 secs ago

@C-PoundGuru Programmers.SE would close it as too broad/opinion-based. — Ixrec 31 secs ago

user55340

11:51 PM

@GlenH7 another card problem for you...

user55340

Sheepshead is played with a 'german deck' of 32 cards (A K Q J 10 9 8 7).
The trump suit consists of [Q, J, Diamonds] (the Queen of Clubs is trump, as is the 7 of diamonds).
A rule for misdeal is described as "no ace, no face, no trump" meaning a hand that contains no aces, face cards (QJK) or trump ([Q,J,Diamonds]) can declare a misdeal.
The problem: Deal out the cards to five players (6 cards each, 2 in the blind) and determine if any of them have a misdeal.

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