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i think i figured it out ... no premature adulation though. i usually have about three iterations of \o/, /o\, \o/, /o\, \o/, /o\ when I'm doing packaging stuffs

Anwar Shah

-|\/-o-\/|-

aking1012

the /o\ is supposed to denote me feeling like this:

Anwar Shah

4:18 PM

It is normal, if you have a windows in front of you

especially, when it is XP

right?

aking1012

especially when it's 8 on a non-touch device

Anwar Shah

oh, yes

aking1012

or when struggling to work around a packaging limitation

Anwar Shah

It's more true

or trying to install or run another os in your virtual box, with 1GB Ram

An old and classic dupe askubuntu.com/q/167089/61218

Eliah Kagan

@AnwarShah Close-voted. 2 more votes needed.

Anwar Shah

4:25 PM

Sorry, I spent all 24

aking1012

@EliahKagan already did

any progress on your OSRSS project @George

I find it interesting

if anyone else is interested in that type of thing, i found this helpful wiki.osdev.org/Category:Tutorials

Santosh

Is there any shortcut to switch between keyboard layouts? (On Windows, it is Left ALT+SHIFT)

aking1012

@Santosh I don't know, but if there isn't I'm sure there's a way to do it from the command line and define an accelerator to run a script

@AnwarShah see there are still good questions to be asked ;)

Anwar Shah

hmm.. But I think, that is already asked

wait a sec...

aking1012

if you dig it up, that would be awesome

Anwar Shah

4:38 PM

@Santosh using unity i guess?

aking1012

4

Q: What are Launchpad packaging recipes and how can I use them?

As I understand it, packaging recipes are a way to automate packaging into a PPA from a bzr branch. What I'm not sure of is how to go about setting one up. I have read the documentation but for some reason it still leaves me a litte confused about what to do. What is the step by step process of...

needs a real answer that isn't link dumping...

Anwar Shah

7

Q: How to switch language keyboard combination?

I would like to type Hebrew in Ubuntu. I tried downloading the Hebrew language pack and then setting alt-shift as my layout-change shortcut in the Options section of "Keyboard Layout". However, when I actually press alt-shift, nothing happens. How can I switch my keyboard layout to Hebrew?

11.10 keyboard-layout language

aking1012

@AnwarShah good show

Anwar Shah

@aking1012 I agree

with your question launchpad things

aking1012

it's a relatively upvoted question, you you might get the outvoting an accepted answer badge if you dug in to it

Anwar Shah

4:47 PM

@Santosh you need to assign a custom shortcut

@aking1012 ?? still very low

aking1012

it only has to get to 10 for the badge

Anwar Shah

oh. yes

10 voted questions are nice

aking1012

i was referring to this one:

askubuntu.com/badges/39/populist

Anwar Shah

25+ voted questions are good

aking1012

seems like a candidate for a relatively rare badge...just saying

Anwar Shah

4:51 PM

You should go for that

aking1012

i'm working on that maven packaging one

Anwar Shah

There are 2 gold badges, awarded to no one

askubuntu.com/badges?tab=general&filter=gold

Those badges should be named "Diamond"

aking1012

we tend to close questions that reach -5 instead of let them linger. i consider nobody having that badge a compliment to the site members/mods

Anwar Shah

then that badge should be closed instead first

aking1012

there are some at -5 or less, but they are few

Anwar Shah

4:55 PM

the badge need to be deleted

Amith KK

0

Q: Install won't work on an HP Pavillion G7

I am trying to install Ubuntu11.10 on my HP Pavillion G7 but when I reboot the purple screen comes up and then the display just dies out. Am I missing something important? Im running it with the Wubi thingy and it still will not come up

11.10 installation system hp-pavillion

close votes

Anwar Shah

Legendary should be the only Diamond badge

@AmithKK Sorry, we are closed

aking1012

it's relevant to other sites. and for some sites it's good. say SO. you could be saying "this is a really bad idea, but if you REALLY want to do it..." etc

Amith KK

BBT

Good Night

Anwar Shah

BBT=? @AmithKK

aking1012

4:57 PM

back tomorrow

Anwar Shah

@AmithKK night then.

The Interrupter

Ubuntu 10.04 Alternate CD Support Cycle, End of Life (EOL), LTS? http://askubuntu.com/questions/167133/ubuntu-10-04-alternate-cd-support-cycle-end-of-life-eol-lts?atw=1 #lts

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on July 23, 2012 at 4:34 PM

aking1012

@AnwarShah I think foss could get it if he wanted to

someone will eventually for only answering 200-rep bounty questions

Anwar Shah

Yes. Seems he is the only candidate for that

aking1012

i think the issue is the people that could get it are more concerned about spreading rep so more people can participate in site maintenance...just my opinion

badges should have progress reports. like percentage to completion...

Anwar Shah

5:01 PM

Most easiest one is fanatic, imo

@aking1012 some badges have progress indicators...

aking1012

easiest is unsung hero. just only answer registered 1-rep users

Anwar Shah

but not actually reports

how?

aking1012

orly?

Anwar Shah

the even don't accept

aking1012

yeah they do

Anwar Shah

5:02 PM

only say in a comment "Thanks, you are my savior"

blah blah..

even One asked me in a comment, How can I accept?

when i said to him, accept one if you satisfied

there are 99 fanatic

The only gold badge that has more earner is famous question

but that is a luck badge !

356 famous question earner

you're the first to earn unsung hero!

There are only 5 unsung hero

I got close to that badge once.

Takkat

There's Tenacious first (19 only) :)

Hi (back from work)

Anwar Shah

@Takkat hi

You are a pulseaudio badge holder !

aking1012

I pulled unsung on SU

Takkat

Yeah, don't know why. I know nothing about what to do when there's "no sound"

Mahesh

How can I have preference set on apt mirrors.. i.e, scan mirrors in a particular order when trying to fetch a package..

Anwar Shah

5:09 PM

I saw many answers from you on sound related questions

Mahesh

umm... googling parallel-ly

aking1012

like if a mirror is down? that's more complicated than pinning/apt-preference

Takkat

I don't even think you can automatically choose another mirror, but I may just be dull on that

@AnwarShah I had to dig into sound a bit some time ago. Its frustrating because of lack of documentation. It considerably improved recently.

Anwar Shah

You may remember, once I corrected a typo in your command

and you thanked me for that

Takkat

Yeah, I always like this - Typos are evil.

Anwar Shah

5:14 PM

I also gone through a sound problem

so, I had to search many questions

But, finally did my own solution

Takkat

I'm one of those people who just don't see their own typos.

Own solutions are far the best!

aking1012

@Takkat ^-- that and me too

Mahesh

@aking1012 like if I have a couple local mirrors, then a national mirror, and I want the local ones used whenever possible.

Anwar Shah

that is not actually a typo

Mahesh

and use external ones only when there is a miss on local mirrors

Anwar Shah

5:15 PM

get-sinks instead of list-sinks may be

Takkat

@aking1012 lol

aking1012

@Mahesh if you mean don't even try external mirrors in that case, idk.

Takkat

@AnwarShah yeah they changed terminology over the years, very disturbing...

Anwar Shah

I thought so. though i don't know anything

Mahesh

hmm... I'm trying that. Having a local apt-caching level kind of solves my problem, but its still evil because it may fetch from anywhere.

Takkat

5:17 PM

When I write answers from work I only have Ubuntu in a slow VM so mostly I try commands by heart. That may be a fail

Anwar Shah

No comments needed...

just humbleness

Mahesh

and how can I get apt to use proxy servers to connect only when it connects to certain mirrors? /etc/environment affects globally..

Takkat

@Mahesh You could try to figure out what's behind "Select Best Server".

I never use that feature because what's best today maybe worst tomorrow

32

Q: How can I get apt to use a mirror close to me, or choose a faster mirror?

Downloading from the main Ubuntu archive is slow even when it's not release day, how can I get apt-get to automatically use a mirror that is close to me?

apt repository mirrors

@Mahesh^^

Mahesh

yeah, had a look at that, but not much use.. unless i dig source code..

Eliah Kagan

@AnwarShah Hi. You were interested in discussing something in chat. I am here. (If you prefer a separate room, that's fine too.)

Takkat

5:22 PM

It does not select the best but the closest based on loccation... Hm

Mahesh

I'll keep searching.. and may be i'll hack something to get things done...

aking1012

@Takkat some may call that a fail. i call that epic dedication

Anwar Shah

@EliahKagan I think, you have rooms already

Takkat

@aking1012 I call that boring work ;P

aking1012

that too

Mahesh

5:23 PM

apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/fullcircle-issue-59

aking1012

dedication sounds way better though

Takkat

Which is not true, but sometimes I have to wait for more items to pop in.

Mahesh

Can someone tell me what repo has this?

Lord of Time

Who here uses the IRC?

Mahesh

I'm not able to find that..

@LordofTime /me

Lord of Time

5:24 PM

@Mahesh that looks more like a third party app

apps on the app store don't need to be in a repo

aking1012

@LordofTime I'm CAPABLE of using irc, but i usually don't

Mahesh

hmm...

Lord of Time

@Mahesh @aking1012 would either of you attend an IRC classroom session on Bugs 101

if only to say you attended

Mahesh

time?

aking1012

depends on the when

example: i don't see myself using the wireless at defcon

Eliah Kagan

5:26 PM

1 more close vote needed in each of these 2 questions:

Takkat

@Mahesh that links to xdg-open apt://fullcircle-issue-59 so that's not a ppa

Eliah Kagan

0

Q: Installation of ubuntu v12.04

I downloaded v 12.04, on installation it gets to iSCSI, I by-pass this to continue partioning, the screen then goes purple with a space bar at the bottom and has been for 2 and a half hours? I'm also using the ubuntu Graphical Installer and my screen looks nothing like the description on your web...

12.04 installation problems

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Q: ubuntu 12.04 archive.ubuntu.com fails to connect during update

I have Ubuntu 12.04 unity and when I try to do a sudo apt-get update it fails to connect to archive.ubuntu.com which also fail to connect via browser, her's what I get in terminal: moqane@home:~$ sudo apt-get update [sudo] password for moqane: Ign http://security.ubuntu.com precise-security InR...

12.04 updates

aking1012

done

Lord of Time

@Mahesh @aking not until Ubuntu User Days, likely in january

Mahesh

@Takkat Thats what I've been wondering..

Lord of Time

5:28 PM

/me is trying to gauge whether people would attend.

Mahesh

@LordofTime Done.

aking1012

@LordofTime possibly

Mahesh

but do remind us.. :P

Takkat

But it would be great to be able to publish documents on Ubuntu to catch by apt

Lord of Time

;P

Takkat

5:29 PM

bublish is gone

Mahesh

I need a pfft face.

aking1012

@LordofTime you've got me on linkedin which should reach my gmail if i disappear for some reason

Lord of Time

@aking1012 indeed, i'll just stab you is all :P

grabs the emailstabber

Takkat

Mr. Bublish the great inventor of keyboards that autocorrect according to mind-streams

Lord of Time

@aking1012 it may not happen, which is why i'm only gauging interest just now

i fully plan to hold a Bugs 101 session

well... either i'll do it or BugSquad/BugControl will

a lot of the MOTUs think it'd be a good idea

aking1012

5:31 PM

i think a "wow this bug affects me and i really want it fixed" link to a gun.io bounty could be useful. just saying

Lord of Time

heh

aking1012

i mean there are probably a lot of people capable of writing patches that don't want to deal with packaging

Mahesh

BBT

Lord of Time

well you can write the packages and upload them to the bugs

and then someone comes through and does the debdiff

that's typically how i fix bugs

let someone else patch the bug, then i debdiff it

geez....

aking1012

yeah. is there a way to say a "wishlist" needs packaging bug could point to something from ppa?

Lord of Time

5:33 PM

i've single handedly closed 4 area51 proposals

@aking wishlist bugs are handled differently

far differently

if its needs-packaging, its handled by a different team

aking1012

fair point. i more meant i'm working on packaging something that's in that area.

Lord of Time

if its a "I want this feature in $software", then it gets upstreamed

if its a "I hate you now go die" bug, its spam, and LPAdmins show up

and depending on other bugs, well...

lets not go there :P

i mean, for example

there's a bug in the builders for the repos

where backported builddeps cant work for building

it makes some backports impossible

aking1012

kk. i take the point. i'll ping you if i get it packaged/working with the specific case and you can point me somewhere

Lord of Time

typically whenever i see a bug that needs packaging, i let someone else do the work with the diffs

and the patches, and then I do the debdiffs

and then poof, uploads are either accepted or rejected by the sponsors team

or in some cases the SRU team

or in other cases the backporters team

aking1012

5:55 PM

nautilus should have a filecopy progress applet

Lord of Time

it does?

:P

its called the file transfer window

if you want the applet go get kde and dolphin

aking1012

gtk ftw

Lord of Time

then you are a complainer!

COMPLAINERS ARE EVIL

THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED

aking1012

commences to patching it himself

Lord of Time

forces @aking1012 to use Windows ME for 16 days

aking1012

5:57 PM

i'ld rather use a beagleboard with lynx and a phone numeric keypad for web-apps

Lord of Time

you get Windows ME instead

the alternative is Windows 8

aking1012

at least ME has usb 2.0 support and no fake touchscreen

intuitively thinks LoT is about to say windows 8 it is!!! ipitythefoo

Anwar Shah

@aking1012 good job self talking

Lord of Time

6:15 PM

@aking1012 actually you're lucky i was on a phone call :p

tachyons

hi

Lord of Time

~~THE ENDING!~~ i mean, HI!

Anwar Shah

@tachyons hi

What's the time in your area?

And greetings for Ramadan!

tachyons

@AnwarShah 11:47 pm

@AnwarShah thanks

Anwar Shah

12:20 AM

tachyons

6:19 PM

@AnwarShah sleep

Anwar Shah

@tachyons thanks.

but i am discussing a serious topic with Eliah Kagan

:)

George Edison

6:30 PM

I wonder if I'll get an answer to this...

aking1012

@LordofTime is displeased with time. considers renaming himself to Lord of Relativity in order to overrule time

@GeorgeEdison are they just filling space to end of sector or whatever?

George Edison

I can show you, one sec.

Lord of Time

@aking1012 i should call myself Lord of Time and Space and Light and Matter and Everything. :P

Bruno Pereira

cof cof get a room

George Edison

aking1012

6:34 PM

@BrunoPereira LOL

Lord of Time

@GeorgeEdison GHEX! its been AGES since i've seen that

George Edison

The first 11 bytes disassemble to what I posted in my question.

Disassembling the rest yields: paste.ubuntu.com/1106910

aking1012

@GeorgeEdison yeah i get it. it's probably some header+zero-length-data+trailer stuff inserted to maintain format

aking1012

6:51 PM

i guess proper troubleshooting steps would be seeing if the extra stuff happens when you compile the obj or when you link it in to see who is at fault

David Oneill

Can anyone help me out with a problem?
network manager's drop down menu stopped having the VPN section that lets me connect to my work VPN

I'm running xubuntu 12.04

aking1012

really sorry...i've never encountered that. i would test by installing ubuntu-desktop if you have the space and seeing if it comes back. if it does, then it's probably a missing dependency in there somewhere

Anwar Shah

I have just get outspoken badge

but how?

David Oneill

Ended up fixing it by disabling then re-enabling networking.

/me shrugs

Anwar Shah

> Posted 10 messages in chat that were starred by 10 different users.

aking1012

7:01 PM

@DavidOneill idk. maybe some kind of polling fail

Anwar Shah

I never see any of my comments starred more than 3

aking1012

@AnwarShah not all at once. cumulative

Greg

Why is naming a software product so difficult?

aking1012

@Greg because everyone wants to call their product "Super-epic-awesome-sauce"

David Oneill

@aking1012 Now sure what you mean by a polling fail

Lord of Time

7:02 PM

@aking1012 lol...

aking1012

@DavidOneill if there's some file it's trying to read to populate the list, and it fails gracefully, the result could theoretically be an empty slot

it's a wild stab i know, but it would also explain why it came back on restart

David Oneill

@aking1012 Ah, ok, so if it didn't get populated until after it had already been read by network manager

that would make sense

aking1012

again. wild stab. i haven't read ANY code that would suggest that. just some logic

@George - looks like you got an answer. empty sections...so I guess I was right-ish

slaps himself for not firing up IDA

George Edison

7:24 PM

Yup, that helps.

It's only 13 bytes now.

Now tries to get the bootloader to enable protected mode...

aking1012

if you hit a tough spot check out that osdev site i linked earlier. it should be there

ObsessiveFOSS

7:43 PM

I enjoy IDA.

aking1012

me too, although i need to get better with hexrays

ObsessiveFOSS

However, I cannot stand the console interface, and it's the ONE thing I need Windows for, ironically.

aking1012

there has been a QT interface on linux for a while...

older versions also run fine in wine

ObsessiveFOSS

Really? How an I that ignorant?

I despise Wine, though.

aking1012

I use it because I must

ObsessiveFOSS

7:46 PM

Wine is always painful and an excuse to use Windows software. Since most open-source Windows software has been ported, you're left with some closed-source that there isn't a Linux binary for.

aking1012

@ObsessiveFOSS hex-rays.com/products/ida/6.0/index.shtml

ObsessiveFOSS

Thanks!

aking1012

if i had 4 grand to drop for fun i'ld upgrade

@ObsessiveFOSS np

7

flagrant repost to express what i'm doing right now

ObsessiveFOSS

Chain-email and curiosity have given me insomnia on the master puzzles...

kongregate.com/games/MoonberryStudios/picma-squared

Ariel

wow - gnome nuked recent documents?!

ObsessiveFOSS

8:00 PM

I have to go...

The Interrupter

Bounty offered: How to disable all Unity animations? http://askubuntu.com/questions/138622/how-to-disable-all-unity-animations?atw=1 #unity

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on July 23, 2012 at 7:34 PM

aking1012

8:17 PM

@ObsessiveFOSS what is it, like a fancypants sudoku?

aking1012

8:37 PM

NM it's a fancypants minesweeper, but backwards

aking1012

8:54 PM

I want to brain myself. Recursive dependency issues on java jars...FML

karthick87

9:50 PM

0

Q: Unable to install flash plugin in ubuntu?

I need to install flashplugin in all the ubuntu systems. So i have downloaded the flashplugin via wget wget http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.228.orig.tar.gz. The file got downloaded and i have moved the file to /var/www/ using wget i have do...

flash plugins

Jorge Castro

you can't run a tarball

4

you need to extract it

The Interrupter

10:37 PM

Bounty offered: Will python scripts be run when added to /etc/network/if-up.d? http://askubuntu.com/questions/166402/will-python-scripts-be-run-when-added-to-etc-network-if-up-d?atw=1 #networking

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on July 23, 2012 at 10:34 PM

aking1012

11:29 PM

this answer is going to be an essay by the time i'm done...

Stephen Myall

11:48 PM

Hello all, I have a quick question about rep before I hit the hay

Why does my total rep differ in Meta from the main site?

aking1012

it just takes time to sync

check after midnight utc

Stephen Myall

That was my second question

When does the day end

aking1012

SE resets at 00:00 UTC as far as i can tell from experience

Stephen Myall

My total rep for the day is 86 and its still 86 1 hr after midnight

Was just being curious, I dont have a life :-)

Thanks

aking1012

:/ -- no idea then. weren't you the one with the multiple account/login weirdness? that might have something to do with it. anyway. it will show up eventually

Stephen Myall

11:52 PM

and you are the one with the good memory

aking1012

yes...yes i am

Stephen Myall

Even at this time of night, kudos

aking1012

ty

afk for a bit...sure someone is holding down the for. later on

Stephen Myall

cheers, off to hit the hay, thanks

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Giving Credit for an Edit

Someone did a really nice job enhancing one of my answers and I have a simple question. Is there any way I can transfer rep as a thank you? Do I have any other options to give him credit? I,m not sure what the protocol is.

discussion editing reputation

aking1012

11:55 PM

@StephenMyall np

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