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Thomas Ward

11:01 PM

@Seth ^

Kaz Wolfe

(stars aren't invisible to users btw)

Thomas Ward

i know

yay my owncloud works again

Kaz Wolfe

oh, wait, no, they removed it.

damnit

guessing works tho

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A: I'm seeing stars! (I can see who starred a message and so can you)

I have always considered stars to not be secret (they aren't secret on the Q&A sites either, where they're called "favorite"). I can see how some people make that assumption though, since we don't really show "who starred this" in a dedicated UI, mostly because, well, we never created such a thin...

Serg

a@KazWolfe i know about that question, and have known for a long time. user.dz aka sneetcher has been putting bounty on it multiple times. Nobody can answer it so far. It's something that requires advanced knowledge

Thomas Ward

Which question?

(they'll just be wasting their exp. with bounties either way)

Kaz Wolfe

11:05 PM

@Serg multiple = 2

@ThomasWard askubuntu.com/posts/786831/timeline

Serg

@ThomasWard askubuntu.com/questions/786831/…

App Indicators are easy. I can whip out one in under 20 minutes. System indicators are whole lotta different fish

Kaz Wolfe

also i have the best desk ever at work now :D

Thomas Ward

"Could anyone make a working port of this system indicator code in C to Python?" <-- that doesn't sound like a question answerable within the scope here

Kaz Wolfe

corner of office, monitors to wall. i get to do whatever i want lol

Serg

@ThomasWard it's under development on Ubuntu category.

Thomas Ward

11:09 PM

@Serg not sure asking us to completely port his code is within scope, but eh

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard Could anyone? Yes. Will anyone? Probably not.

Thomas Ward

you're right it's development on Ubuntu, but asking us to do it for him?

Kaz Wolfe

I definitely don't feel like writing a Python wrapper for a bunch of C APIs.

Thomas Ward

So, basically, you want us to create a working port of your C code into Python... and you don't want to try porting it yourself? Not sure if that's ever going to be answered here, because you're basically wanting to hire a highly specialized Python programmer to write a highly-specialized piece of software/code for your indicators. System Indicators are completely different beasts from application indicators — Thomas Ward ♦ 1 min ago

Serg

@ThomasWard and how is this different from asking us to make a script ? an app indicator ? a popup window ? Plus, it's nt any port, it's for Ubuntu specifically

Thomas Ward

11:10 PM

@Serg point.missed

Serg

@ThomasWard i see your point , but it's no different from asking us to make awk script work with perl, or whatever. Of which there are plenty other questions

Again, it's Ubuntu specific question, so it belongs here, IMHO

Thomas Ward

@Serg except they usually have something they've tried. This might be a question we have to discuss on Meta whether this falls under our scope of 'development on Ubuntu'

Serg

@ThomasWard he already has tried something, there is python code they provided, which doesn't work.

Thomas Ward

shrugs

oops

wrong window

Serg

This is something that could answer whole lot of other unanswered questions on Ask Ubuntu, and open up more possibilities for other devs

Thomas Ward

11:15 PM

(that was suppsoed to go to Discord)

Serg

@ThomasWard we all saw that,muhahah

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg I mean, unless you want to write a Python-to-C bridge...

Thomas Ward

@Serg You saw nothing but the orbital kinetic impact rods coming from the stars down upon my post.

Serg

@KazWolfe there are bridges and APIs already.

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard okay, seriously, what is with you and space lasers/rods?

Thomas Ward

11:17 PM

@KazWolfe i'm an evil vindictive scifi nerd?

@Serg Oh that's not the worst of it

trust me

Kaz Wolfe

@ThomasWard but why space lasers and/or rods? i'm sure you could use a lot more hard-science in your moderative endeavors.

Serg

Trust an evil entity shooting lazers ? Sounds like a plan

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe Well, space lasers are possible, so are kinetic impact weapons.

@KazWolfe they had developed space-based lasers for anti-ICBM defense, though they never got into orbit

Kaz Wolfe

plus, you're kinda limiting your scope by only using space weaponry, which gets boring after a while.

Thomas Ward

the orbital weapons bans and what not

@KazWolfe Would you rather a deep chasm in the earth rip open and swallow posts in the fires of the underworld?

I have that too :P

Kaz Wolfe

11:19 PM

hm. we should start a D&D campain with askubuntu users. that sounds fun.

Thomas Ward

I need to learn more about D&D first

though, i'd probably end up as a dark evil wizard or some crap like that

Serg

@KazWolfe what is D&D ?

oh

dungeons and dragons ?

Thomas Ward

mhm

Kaz Wolfe

yes.

Serg

Never played that. In fact i haven't touched games in years

I gotta go back to steam or Minecraft or what not

Thomas Ward

11:23 PM

@KazWolfe don't tempt me to switch to the dark arcane magicks that I created in my brain's alternate universes

that is far more evil than instant-destruction-from-space

Kaz Wolfe

i think you need to work on balancing powers, @ThomasWard.

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe I prefer unbalanced powers, thanks.

a true neutral would go for balance

a chaotic or neutral evil, not so much :)

I need sleep too, I'm running on only 4 hours sleep

and way too much coffee

Kaz Wolfe

no, a literal god would be the only one without balance powers.

soz, you're not an SE employee.

Thomas Ward

:P

@KazWolfe well, let's analyze the chain shall we?

Kaz Wolfe

so... BALANCE UR POWERS M80

Thomas Ward

11:27 PM

standard people have no heavy power. Community Moderators have higher power so we are the demigods. Community Managers are gods. Devs are supergods. SE CEO is overlord.

so, technically, it is still unbalanced power :)

I think i'm going to hijack the projectors in this classroom and make them all play Rick Astley on repeat...

disrupt the class a little

Kaz Wolfe

oh, hush, you shouldn't be able to do 10,000 DPS from a 5 mana spell with no repercussions.

that's just being OP for the sake of being OP, and that's no fun.

Serg

big accident near my campus

Thomas Ward

behold, The Dark Network is born. launches

Kaz Wolfe

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Q: Overpowered PCs (Gabe's Dilemma)

Penny Arcade recently ran the following strip: (Original strip here) While the resolution of this thread hasn't yet been posted, I'm wondering what we think here. How do you game with PCs who are topping out the power levels for your system? How can you keep things interesting or challenging ...

it's not fun to have OP characters, at least not to everyone else.

In other words, it's not fun to have giant four-ton rods of carbon-fiber rods coated with some extremely heat-resistant alloy raining down from the sky.

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe You're not wrong. But, I have a question, what if I'm one of fifty groups who have that power? And therefore I'm not the only one bringing evil

Kaz Wolfe

11:35 PM

might be fun for you at the launch console, but not everyone having to dodge (unsuccessfully) the carbon rods from the sky.

@ThomasWard okay, do we still have a chance to survive any of those four-ton rods with our own powers? or...?

Thomas Ward

have you angered any world powers lately?

Kaz Wolfe

if one person with that level of power is bad, i can only imagine 50 is worse, unless incompetence among those 50 causes us to miss death narrowly by pure luck.