Ask Ubuntu General Room

edwinksl

12:00 AM

@Serg nice selfie skillz

James Tobin

and a custom

none of them cause trouble

I've never heard of anyone with bad BIOS

Kaz Wolfe

Hi.

Serg

@edwinksl them selfie sticks come in handy :p By the way, i was cheated of 50 $ for that selfive stick , true story

James Tobin

I mean I have heard that term but mostly from people talking about UEFI

other than you of course lol

Kaz Wolfe

4 mins ago, by Kaz Wolfe

I had a laptop running on BIOS that would not boot ever unless I entered the BIOS settings and changed settings. The CMOS battery was fine. It just refused to save anything.

That's not UEFI. This was before EFI even existed.

James Tobin

12:01 AM

oh god my wifi doesnt work

Kaz Wolfe

Well let's blame UEFI for blocking the wifi card!

James Tobin

no that would be Windows 8.1 problem lol

edwinksl

can we blame zenity stupidity on UEFI

Kaz Wolfe

if (problem.exists()) {
     problem.blameOn(Component.EFI);
}

James Tobin

Ill have to download drivers and utilities

Serg

12:03 AM

In python that's even shorter

if problem: problem.blame("UEFI")

Kaz Wolfe

Like I said, I've used high-quality hardware mostly, and I've never had an EFI issue.

And I've never heard of others with similar setups complain about EFI.

Serg

Mkay, i need a break . . . and lunch . . .

edwinksl

git blame uefi

Kaz Wolfe

but i've heard of a lot of people complain about bios in the pro field

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe I have an old C420 or something from 2000-ish that runs Windows 7 perfectly fine :p

Byte Commander

12:16 AM

@Serg Your head looks so naked...

You looked better with more hair around it IMHO.

;-)

Zacharee1

@Serg AAAAH :p

Kaz Wolfe

Do we need to all post selfies now?

Byte Commander

Finally that guy managed to follow my instruction... askubuntu.com/questions/821919/…

@KazWolfe Mine is a wolf and stays a wolf...

Kaz Wolfe

@ByteCommander yay wolves :D

Byte Commander

So cute and fluffy!

Nope, certificate error. :-/ Reuploading...

Kaz Wolfe

12:25 AM

404

Byte Commander

James Tobin

k got my wifi working @KazWolfe : )

Kaz Wolfe

more woofs

James Tobin

beautiful

Byte Commander

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Need. To. Cuddle. Nooooow!

Never seen anything so fluffy...

James Tobin

12:28 AM

Kaz Wolfe

you have not seen my (non-wolf) dog.

@JamesTobin that is a husky

Byte Commander

And a... cat...

James Tobin

came up on bing images as a wolf lol and yeah I see the cat :)

Byte Commander

I'm surprised by how many photos of wolf cubs together with tiger babies you find though.

James Tobin

actualy its an artic wolf according to description

Kaz Wolfe

12:29 AM

damn my wolf folder is on my other computer.

Byte Commander

I would take em both...

Until they outgrow my sofa...

Kaz Wolfe

Byte Commander

That one reminds me of the floating cat...

Kaz Wolfe

let's replace the entire starbox with wolves.

because why not :D

also if actual wolfdogs weren't impossible to control sanely, i would have all of the wolfdogs right now.

Nathan Osman

OH MY. You poor Ubuntu users are still on kernel 4.4.

I'm currently building 4.8rc5 for Arch :)

Kaz Wolfe

12:33 AM

what does this have to do with wolves.

Android Dev

@JamesTobin - You still around?

James Tobin

yes

Android Dev

@JamesTobin How'd it go?

James Tobin

gawt it!

Byte Commander

Well, Arch is rolling... (whether it's also rocking is a different question though)

Nathan Osman

12:33 AM

Let's see... wolves are animals. Penguins are animals. Linux likes penguins. Therefore bacon?

3

James Tobin

lol

Android Dev

@JamesTobin How so?

James Tobin

unetbootin believe it or not

with certian settings of disk format

Android Dev

@JamesTobin Mkaaaay........

Kaz Wolfe

2

Android Dev

12:34 AM

@JamesTobin - You should have just used the program I linked you to.

2

I didnt have windows

@JamesTobin Well, I was right about the install media needing to be on an MBR partition, wasn't I?

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe BAAAACON

Byte Commander

12:35 AM

Android Dev

@JamesTobin - And in the end, did you end up with UEFI or legacy installs?

James Tobin

the worst in the world :(

Byte Commander

3 more and we successfully purged the star wall...

Android Dev

@JamesTobin UEFI?

Kaz Wolfe

no the bacon cat is there

Byte Commander

12:36 AM

With bacon and wolves

Android Dev

@KazWolfe @ByteCommander Dupe of ??? askubuntu.com/questions/822759/switching-back-to-windows-10

Kaz Wolfe

James Tobin

@AndroidDev yes :(

@AndroidDev poll.lab.io/qWMUIh2HUYSwMHrpB5OacA please vote

@AndroidDev no other choice :(

Kaz Wolfe

lol 13/4 UEFI

woof!

Byte Commander

@AndroidDev I don't think he wants to remove Ubuntu, but dual boot instead and is missing a Windows entry in GRUB

James Tobin

12:38 AM

I think some people were using multiple browsers on tha tone

Android Dev

@JamesTobin - Just build your own PC. Then you don't have problems like these.

Kaz Wolfe

@JamesTobin pretty sure voting is IP based

James Tobin

it's a laptop

no it isnt

Android Dev

@ByteCommander - This then? askubuntu.com/questions/431511/…

Kaz Wolfe

then that is dumb

James Tobin

12:39 AM

poll.lab.io is based on browser

yeah it is

poll-maker is worse

Kaz Wolfe

also brb ima go vote 30000 times for uefi because i can lol

James Tobin

nope

Kaz Wolfe

it already won so...

Byte Commander

@AndroidDev ok, but a higher voted and more general dupe target would be preferable.

Android Dev

@ByteCommander Such as...

Byte Commander

12:41 AM

no idea. I'm bad at finding dupes.

Android Dev

@ByteCommander So am I :(

Downgoat

@KazWolfe (U)EFI

Android Dev

@ByteCommander - Question: is it frowned upon to answer a clear dupe?

Kaz Wolfe

@Downgoat the goat speaks sense (like always)!

Downgoat

:D

Byte Commander

12:42 AM

Maybe askubuntu.com/q/450185/367990 or askubuntu.com/q/210914/367990? @AndroidDev

Kaz Wolfe

this chat contains two wolves, a goat, and numerous penguins.

Android Dev

@ByteCommander Will add another comment

Kaz Wolfe

this is a good spread.

Byte Commander

site:askubuntu.com is your friend in google and duckduckgo etc.

Kaz Wolfe

yeah. why does SE search suck so much

Android Dev

12:43 AM

@KazWolfe I noticed that too!

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe we also have a dog, a fox and a lion.

Android Dev

@ByteCommander or @KazWolfe - is it frowned upon to answer a clear dupe?

Kaz Wolfe

actually we have two goats, but @RPiAwesomeness isn't in

@AndroidDev Nobody really cares most of the time.

Byte Commander

right

Android Dev

@KazWolfe It isn't considered rep farming?

Kaz Wolfe

12:44 AM

my second-highest answer is a dupe lol

Android Dev

@KazWolfe lol

Kaz Wolfe

Old Mc KazWolfe had a farm, E-I-E-I-O, and on this farm he farmed some rep, E-I-E-I-O

Android Dev

lol

Byte Commander

I'm glad this chat has no voice channels... :p

Kaz Wolfe

@NathanOsman Userscript opportunity!

Android Dev

12:47 AM

@KazWolfe Exactly what I was thinking

Kaz Wolfe

i'll get the justin bieber troll tracks ready

or Sandstorm.

three wolves :D

Serg

@ByteCommander welp, Chinese ladies apparently prefer less hairy guys, so that's why i shaved then

i don't know why i shaved now though

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg i thought you were in the US?

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe Baby, baby, baby, uuuuuuuhhhhh!

(that's Bieber, isn't it?)

Kaz Wolfe

this chat needs more wolves.

and yes.

Downgoat

12:50 AM

@KazWolfe I'll get the goat remixes

Mateo

@KazWolfe actually they efectively made it a felony en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Fraud_and_Abuse_Act#Criticism

Serg

@KazWolfe i am in the us . May 17th to June 7th i wasbin China for the first time

Kaz Wolfe

@Serg so... why shave? sorry, i don't follow

Byte Commander

@Serg better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what you are not.

That's a quote of Kurt Cobain btw IIRC

Don't change yourself for the girls.

Kaz Wolfe

@Mateo where do you see that?

Mateo

12:53 AM

> Criticism
Provisions of the CFAA that effectively make it a federal crime to violate the terms of service of Internet sites have been criticized for allowing companies [...]

Kaz Wolfe

well damn it i can't vote lol

take me away, boys

Byte Commander

Scotty, beam me up!

Serg

@KazWolfe the picture on my git profile and lauchpad shows me shaved. In China we had a group of students attached to us as volunteers. At one point they discovered picture in my passport, which was taken when i was 17, so they all started saying : " oh, you look better without a beard". So i shaved for the ladies :p

Kaz Wolfe

wait no mateo

Serg

TLDR: peer pressure

Kaz Wolfe

12:55 AM

> Aaron's Law (H.R. 2454, S. 1196[37]) would exclude terms of service violations from the 1984 Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and from the wire fraud statute, despite the fact that Swartz was not prosecuted based on Terms of Service violations.

three wolves and two goats are now present in this chat.

Mateo

> As of May 2014, Aaron's Law was stalled in committee [...]

@Serg Lauchpad?

yay i'm a felon

you know what no, if i do get arrested for this, i'm just going to not care anymore.

Byte Commander

12:57 AM

^ this is "Lauch" in German

Kaz Wolfe

damn i'd even plead guilty and ask for the death sentence

put some blood on apple's hands

Mateo

@ByteCommander you are leeking

wut?

leak vs leek ;p

Ah. Got the pun.

1:01 AM

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Q: How can I explain to my friend that running a "hackintosh" is a violation of the law?

I have a friend who has never owned a Mac. He has just built a "hackintosh" by installing VMWare on his PC running Windows, and downloading a pirated, hacked copy of Mac OS X Yosemite in a portable VMWare virtual machine volume from somewhere online. He claims to be astonished and unbelieving wh...

REALLY

Yeah, Niresh is piracy, but... really?

Serg

@ByteCommander yes. I'm on mobile , so expect lots of typos.

question now is , do i get a sandwich or do i go home to eat ?

Kaz Wolfe

and ofc Ask Different doesn't do hackintosh

Serg

or do i go have pho ?

Byte Commander

> "It wouldn't be on the Internet if it was illegal"

That's stupid though

Kaz Wolfe

yeah but hackintosh isn't piracy by nature.

hell, i bought the version of OSX i'm using.

James Tobin

1:05 AM

@ByteCommander of course that's stupid! +1

however hackintosch IS NOT illegal -1

Byte Commander

@KazWolfe still stoopidly illegal, as it seems

Ubuntu FTW

James Tobin

no software piracy as it is called is illegal AS LONG AS it is confined to your home

Kaz Wolfe

4

Q: Burninate [hackintosh]?

The hackintosh tag refers to using Apple operating systems on non-Apple hardware. Since this is explicitly off-topic on Ask Different, I would like to propose that hackintosh be burninated.

discussion tags

James Tobin

if I have a book the copyright law will let me make a copy as long as it stays in my home

Mateo

lol

Kaz Wolfe

1:07 AM

@JamesTobin we're exaggerating here and being pissy. yeah, copyright law "allows" that but it doesn't allow this because reasons.

And tcehnically, no, they won't let you make that copy. They won't stop you or come after you, but they still won't like it.

James Tobin

Microsoft says no but the law should say yes

and Apple says no too]

but why should they have rule over me?

Kaz Wolfe

well because the law says they get the decision...

James Tobin

they are not the government

Kaz Wolfe

the law should say yes, but the law says they get to decide because EULA.

Mateo

wnd.com/2016/07/… - and now computers are not private so they technically are outside your home ;P

Kaz Wolfe

1:09 AM

as always, the law is 30 years behind the time.

James Tobin

EULAs dont need to mean anything to me

and dont call me a pirate just because I use software that's rightfully mine as i wish within my own territory

Kaz Wolfe

rightfully yours means you're only using as many licenses as you bought

even if the software has no drm/copy protection.

Mateo

we are not, we are saying they gov will say you are when push comes to shove

Kaz Wolfe

we're for the freedom of all of this, and we hate what apple and MS is doing.

5

James Tobin

MS doesnt stop me

I just activated my windows 8.1 with KMS ReLoader

Kaz Wolfe

1:11 AM

Yeah, you're one person. They legally won't go after you because it costs more for them to go after you than they will possibly make

now if you were a 100-seat company (i worked here) that used a stolen MAK without buying a single license... they will come after you

James Tobin

exactly

Kaz Wolfe

hell, the version of windows on my other machine is technically pirated because registry corruptions killed the license i had on it.

under the law, i'm a criminal, even though I'm still using one license on one computer.

James Tobin

under Microsoft's law

Kaz Wolfe

under the US government's law

because the eula is legally binding

no court would agree with microsoft in this case, but they still consider me evil.

James Tobin

so what if I modify ISO to make it not show it up?

Kaz Wolfe

1:17 AM

the eula?

James Tobin

yeah

Kaz Wolfe

you're bound to it when you load it. just because it's not there doesn't mean you didn't agree to it

removing the EULA doesn't magically make you immune to it. "You agree to this Agreement by using this software..."

in fact... tampering it to remove the eula is also possibly a violation of the eula

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe eh. I think a large part of it is "we don't really want to support these questions"

Kaz Wolfe

yeah, probably.

still annoying

as a hackintosh.SE got closed as a dupe

Journeyman Geek

on SU, I think a (previous) mod decision was to ban them, then people bitched, so we point out the relevant bits of the user agreement ;p

Kaz Wolfe

1:22 AM

well yeah... it is technically illegal so...

meh.

and it would open up SE to lawsuits for supporting hackintoshers

Zacharee1

Anyone watch Dr. Who?

Byte Commander

Sure!

Mateo

hey who turned out the lights?

Zacharee1

don't blink

@Mateo shudder

these are two true horror themes in the show

Byte Commander

Not many episodes yet, only those starting with Matt Smith as 11th Doctor...

Kaz Wolfe

1:25 AM

i wanted to get into it, but i fear i'd get addicted to it

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander go back to the beginning of 2005

@KazWolfe you will, but luckily, they only release like 10 episodes a year now

Kaz Wolfe

i'm one of those lore nerds.

Byte Commander

last episode I saw was about a closed funpark planet getting invaded by cybermen

Mateo

@KazWolfe don't worry, you will. I have a tardis blanket already ;)

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander oh yeah, cybermen

FUN

Kaz Wolfe

1:26 AM

so i'd go back and rewatch and get my conspiracy board and etc

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe sounds like a plan

Byte Commander

Nah, I found that specific episode lame.

And where would I watch the older ones?

Zacharee1

Netflix

Mateo

hm, are they still on netflix?

Zacharee1

cough cough "legal" cough methods?

@Mateo lemme check

Byte Commander

1:27 AM

I'm currently seeing 1 episode every week on TV, and they started with the 11th Doc.

And I am not willing to pay.

SO Netflix is out.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander oh, you could VPN to the UK and watch on BBC iPlayer

Mateo

all gone cinemablend.com/television/…

Zacharee1

@Mateo aww they're gone :(

Mateo

oh, this year... too bad I don't have a time machine...

Serg

apparently ranch goes quite well with barbeque

Zacharee1

1:29 AM

@Mateo sigh

@Serg really?

I don't see it

Serg

Well, that's what i had in my subway just now. . . . teriyaki chicken

Zacharee1

hmm

weird

Kaz Wolfe

ohmygod teriyaki chicken...

i want

Zacharee1

although Subway's Teriyaki Chicken might not really be teriyaki chicken

Serg

Silly, probably i should have gone home and eat, but it's just an indulgence before i start living on ricre day to day and saving money. Ah, the beauty of student life

Zacharee1

1:32 AM

Well the grace period for the MultiSeatOneCard is over

Mateo

@Zacharee1 does the bbcamerica site not show them?

Zacharee1

@Mateo lolno

Mateo

I thought they did only some new ones as they air

Zacharee1

I see Edit and Kaz have joined the script hoards

@Mateo maybe, but that's not exactly helpful (to anyone)

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 look at the bottom of sechat.quickmediasolutions.com

Zacharee1

1:34 AM

I'm gonna post this again:

The New iPhone is Just Worse

►

@KazWolfe oh cool

Kaz Wolfe

i've used the script since almost the beginning

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe update your GitHub avatar github.com/KazWolfe

Kaz Wolfe

just new computers and idiot userscript processors

@Zacharee1 happy?

Byte Commander

@Zacharee1 BBC says "this video is not currently available" - not currently or not locally?

Zacharee1

@KazWolfe I see no difference

Kaz Wolfe

1:37 AM

caching.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander locally. You need to be in the UK. In your case, "be" in the UK

Kaz Wolfe

*sigh*

Zacharee1

ah

zer it iz

Byte Commander

I only have a Dutch, Canadian and Singaporean VPN at the moment though...

Zacharee1

I really wish my school had classes focused on advanced English or general language grammar that I could take instead of literature

@ByteCommander get a UK one then

Kaz Wolfe

1:38 AM

can no man's sky please drop down to $5?

Zacharee1

or try to Tor in

@KazWolfe isn't it a huge let down though?

Byte Commander

Need a different VPN provider then.

Kaz Wolfe

@Zacharee1 i'd buy for 5

Byte Commander

And the good old onion is slooooow!

And to use my SecurityKISS VPNs again, I'd need to install StrongSwan. Yikes.

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander don't do that

Doctor Who isn't worth that

Byte Commander

1:40 AM

I know.

Maybe I'll try messing up a VM for that.

Well, bed time. Nearly 4 hours past midnight is late enough...

Good night all.

Kaz Wolfe

cya tomorrow byte

So... How do you milk a sheep?

Journeyman Geek

Very carefully

Kaz Wolfe

No.

with iPhone accessories.

Journeyman Geek

eh. I need a power saw

Henry WH Hack v2.0

^I think I was the caused of that.^

Kaz Wolfe

1:53 AM

no you weren't

fun idea: call one of those "your computer has a virus" javascript popups whilst on Linux.

bonus points for a Windows theme

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Why did my machine choose to shut down (a few minutes after "freezing")?

My machine "froze" and a few minutes later shut itself down in an "orderly" fashion, with messages saying it's going down. However, I can't figure out why. $ grep -i shut /var/syslog turns up nothing. Since it "knew" it was going down, why didn't it log the cause? Between the freeze and the ...

ubuntu shutdown syslog crash

Henry WH Hack v2.0

help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/…

Twitch is good. (I think!)

edwinksl

2:37 AM

huh, sharing of terminal? teleconsole.com

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