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12:03 AM

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Q: Any good (open-source) alternative to SharePoint?

We are a small company and would like to have a Content & Doc management features (such as version control, custom lists, workflow, alerts, feeds, blogs, wikis, forums, good integrated search) which are most commonly found in SharePoint. But we cannot use SharePoint due to its cost, complexity, ...

IanC

it was about a function I was not finding, until I realized it was a defined function in the script :p

its terrible trying to read a script in a language you don't know, you understand the logical decisions but always get stuck with syntax

Seth

yup. Use a good editor/IDE with a "jump to declaration" ability. It helps :)

IanC

I'm on gedit lol

should have noticed the function wasnt highlighted though

maybe I should learn python

but first things first, gotta finish my network book, then relearn C or C++

and then python, might take a good while..

if I start doing multiple things I'll finish none

Seth

Python syntax isn't too hard.

IanC

does this make any sense?
mystring="".join(p for p in mystring)

I mean, isn't it just rewriting the whole string the same way it was before?

typo

now its good

Pichi Wuana

12:17 AM

Does someone know why I don't have insight and sudo apt-get install insight doesn't work either?

edwinksl

@IanC it works as you said but i am not sure why you would do this

Zacharee1

Finally

A keyboard I can type with

edwinksl

I keyboard xD

Zacharee1

no more cheap keyboard that couldn't even pay to put the Windows logo on its keys

@edwinksl I Robot

edwinksl

@Zacharee1 decent movie

Zacharee1

12:19 AM

never seen it

edwinksl

@PichiWuana it doesn't work because that package doesn't exist in the repositories

Pichi Wuana

Ohh

edwinksl

the error message you got tells you the same thing

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman so your site says there are 11 people using the script right now, but it's not working for me

IanC

@edwinksl me neither, I'm just trying to figure out a script, and he does it.. I'm terrible at reading other peoples codes lol

maybe I"m just bad at programming

:/

edwinksl

12:23 AM

the most common use of ''.join(some_list_of_strings) is to concatenate strings in a list into a single string

that's perhaps what whoever wrote the script is trying to do

IanC

but the (p for p in Mystring) makes a list with the original string right?

Zacharee1

i wantz dis tablet soo bad

edwinksl

the p for p in mystring seems redundant to me; you can just pass in mystring or whatever list you had

IanC

there might be some hex values in the Mystring array, could that be it?

like, 0xff would be something different when iterated by 'p'?

edwinksl

don't call it an array lol

it is called a list in python

you will confuse people if you call it an array

Zacharee1

12:26 AM

@edwinksl what's this Python array I hear about?

edwinksl

GARRRRRRRRR

Zacharee1

>:D

you deserved that though :p

edwinksl

phphphphphphp

IanC

he makes something like ' Mystring="" '
then puts values in Mystring like:
Mystring[0]=...
Mystring[1]=...

I'm guessing each index isn't a char then

like, since he parses chr() values and hex() values, you could have an ASCII character or a hexadecimal value (in a 0xff format) on each of these list indexes right?

would it then make sense to use join? maybe turning '0xff' in just 'ff'?

edwinksl

maybe provide the full script somewhere so that we can read it

isaac9A

12:39 AM

push %rbp
mov %rsp,%rbp

IanC

tried to reduce it enough

to post here

didn't get formatted as code -.-

isaac9A

```
push %rbp
mov %rsp,%rbp
```

IanC

2 back ticks?

isaac9A

lol github syntax is a no no

``
push %rbp
mov %rsp,%rbp
``

``
push %rbp
mov %rsp,%rbp

Zacharee1

do we tell people how to surpass govt filters? askubuntu.com/questions/803803/…

isaac9A

12:40 AM

ok i give up

Zacharee1

@Seth? ^^

isaac9A

no more spamming the chat trying to figure it out

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 thanks for the heads up. I'm in the process of moving some of my services to a new group of servers.

Zacharee1

@NathanOsman ah

that explains it

Nathan Osman

Hopefully that is complete by the weekend.

Zacharee1

12:42 AM

So should I pay $30 for a 60MB/s read microsd or $34 for 85MB/s?

128GB

Seth

@Zacharee1 don't see why not

Nathan Osman

Lol.

Zacharee1

@Seth really? isn't that illegal?

Seth

@Zacharee1 in China maybe.

Zacharee1

um

Seth

12:44 AM

@Zacharee1 can you get me those prices?

Zacharee1

I thought we didn't help people do illegal stuff

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 go for the faster one. Duh.

Zacharee1

hmm

@Seth ?

Seth

@Zacharee1 illegal as in pirating, yeah not really.

Nathan Osman

@Zacharee1 whoops. Switches hats. Welcome to the Ask Ubuntu General Room.

Zacharee1

12:45 AM

wat

Nathan Osman

:)

Zacharee1

@Seth I don't understand your mentality here

IanC

@edwinksl DUDE, I got it now, it's as you said

mystring was actually a list, with strings inside it

Seth

@Zacharee1 we don't deal with legality. Too many countries and laws that are always changing. The community has decided of their own accord not to support things like pirating because it is a moral wrong (and happens to be illegal in SE's jurisdiction). The two aren't really related.

IanC

join was just used to join all those strings into one full string

Zacharee1

12:48 AM

@Seth hmm

IanC

thanks for the "lists vs arrays" advice! @edwinksl

Journeyman Geek

Piracy is specific, its against the TOS

this isn't against the TOS, so its cool

Zacharee1

This and this

good pairing

@JourneymanGeek OK...

well I'm not gonna answer

China is wary enough of the US

Journeyman Geek

China wants the internet's money, but not the internet's anarchy ;)

edwinksl

can't have one without the other though :P it is a package deal

Zacharee1

1:00 AM

agh, tablet

I wanna get rid of this iPad so badly

edwinksl

then do it? :P

Zacharee1

1:13 AM

I have to wait for my mom to get back from AZ so we can discuss it

the problem is that's when we'll be moving to TMO if we end up doing that

I have more than enough money to get it

I'll sell the iPad, sell my old iPad (which I gave to my stepdad who isn't using it anymore because he has an iPad from work) and sell my sister's old Kindle

I get all the profits for my iPad and a percentage for the other things

cause it's a hassle to list that stuff

edwinksl

i see you are purging apple out of your fam

Zacharee1

1:32 AM

trying

edwinksl

OT askubuntu.com/questions/803807/…

also misleading title

Ask Ubuntu Meta

1:48 AM

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Q: Are questions about Ubuntu VM's running on Windows or Mac

Are questions about Ubuntu Virtual Machines on topic here? For example: http://superuser.com/questions/1105737/ubuntu-16-on-hyper-v-screen-flicker-and-other-problems. Yes I know that is a SuperUser question but would that be on-topic here?

discussion

Nathan Osman

2:37 AM

Hi.

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@NathanOsman NathanOsman Hello! :)

Nathan Osman

Everyone enjoying their Wednesday evening?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@NathanOsman Yes.

Nathan Osman

That's good.

This is what I feel like:

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Henry WH Hack v2.0

Kraken

The Kraken (/ˈkrɑːkən/) is a legendary sea monster of giant size that is said to dwell off the coasts of Norway and Greenland. A number of authors over the years have postulated that the legend originated from sightings of giant squids that may grow to 12–15 meters (40–50 feet) in length, despite the fact that the creature in the original tales was not described as having tentacles and more closely resembled a whale or crab. The sheer size and fearsome appearance attributed to the kraken have made it a common ocean-dwelling monster in various fictional works. It was first described by the Dane...

I'm so sorry for this guy security.stackexchange.com/users/115725/ishan-mathur and this guy askubuntu.com/users/169736/braiam! :D

TheXed

3:06 AM

hi

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@TheXed Hello! :)

Hi

TheXed

@HenryWHHackv2.0 hello...

Mateo

@blade19899 anything like this? owncloud.org/blog/libreoffice-online-has-arrived-in-owncloud

TheXed

Where is my VPN crap?

gotta find it...

Mateo

3:29 AM

wha?

TheXed

@Mateo what?

Mateo

that's an intresting way to get people to see you github project... check this out, people have started doing "give them push access" spam...

"You were automatically subscribed because you’ve been given push access to the repository."

well then...

seems my github folder has been filling up...

time to drop out of such a visible project as UE

yikes

looks like he gave everyone in the project access to his branch...

TheXed

Found it.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

3:49 AM

Ugh, I am so mad today.

Journeyman Geek

askubuntu.com/questions/759332/… FREE SPAM FLAGS!!! (before the mods catch on) (Hi mods!)

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

now a flag to calm me down

:)

Mateo

ooo, did they remove the VLQ flag?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

?

Mateo

"very low quality"

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

3:53 AM

oh

Mateo

there used to be a flag on answers for that

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

i think that only exist on questions not answrs

Mateo

don't see it on questions either

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

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Q: Remove VLQ as a flag option

The Very Low Quality flag option sucks. prepares for controversy I'd like to see it removed totally as a flag option. Its original purpose was as a response to contentless or meaningless posts; posts that aren't answers, aren't coherent, aren't even made up of words. It was intended for cases w...

discussion flags moderator-tools low-quality-posts

edwinksl

@Mateo i still see VLQ on both questions and answers

Mateo

3:56 AM

hmmm, maybe I've been vlq flag banned

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

like I've been create chatroom banned...

Mateo

or maybe once you get the review privilege, you can't flag them for the queue, thus preventing people from filing it up then voting to delete?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

think so

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

4:31 AM

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Q: SOLVED - How to Boot Up Linux Hung at Flashing Grub Cursor

here’s (the) a solution to presumably any Linux box (I use Ubuntu) which won’t completely boot up (either warm- or cold-boot), but hangs at a flashing cursor at grub-loader: Conventions: whether initiating the process or responding to the last screen presented, what you type into/on the keyboard...

linux ubuntu

edwinksl

^lol dat Q&A

@Zanna is your rate of increase of rep in the past month is unprecedented

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Henry WH Hack v2.0

5:19 AM

The world's greatest internet troll explains his craft

►

Zanna

5:34 AM

I'm obviously spending toooo much time on AU :) I don't have much work in the summer

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] URL-only title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: boosthightestosterones.com/nitrobuild-plus/ by anxarvafpivoc on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: how to fix this problem of LAMP server? by dhiraj singh on askubuntu.com …

Aamir

hello everyone

Zanna

hiya :)

this is OT I think? It's a known bug with no workaround? askubuntu.com/questions/803825/…

Aamir

how can I get total memory usage of a process based on process id

I am using this:- sudo ps -p 24503 -o %cpu,%mem, but is this correct way to get both cpu consumption and RAM usage of a process

Zanna

5:56 AM

afaik yeah (you don't need root). If there is a better way tell me when you find it!

Zanna

6:12 AM

@Aamir ask a question on AU if you want, probably you will get some really nice answers to that :)

Byte Commander

Morning.

I lost 110 points because of the rep cap yesterday... :-/

Zanna

I saw that, I was cringing for you at the votes on that answer going up up up

Byte Commander

At least 110... maybe even more

Zanna

shoulda saved my vote for today

>_<

Byte Commander

shrug

grooveplex

7:04 AM

In the inevitable event that I have to say 'macOS' on Ask Ubuntu, do I call it 'macOS' (the new name) or 'OS X' (the older name)?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

call it os X

Byte Commander

call it "apple thing"

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

or apple sucks

that was... surprising

Byte Commander

7:19 AM

?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

the image

grooveplex

Wait what

I didn't see it

Byte Commander

It's the one on top of the star wall.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@grooveplex you would best to not see it

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD Why did you tried to turn a post into a fariy tale drama story askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/578920?

Byte Commander

7:20 AM

I just tried to repost it because the link itself did not open properly in Firefox...

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

@HenryWHHackv2.0 ik

try to keep up old-timer.

i am addicted.

Byte Commander

Yikes, Windows!

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

windows.. yes.

i also got chrome os

@ByteCommander why say yikes windows

everyone has own OS'es they trust. its everyones own belief

Byte Commander

Because yikes!

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

i got a exe called bash.exee

grooveplex

7:26 AM

I just saw a question on SO that, instead of the infamous 'enter image description here' said 'look pic pls'

2

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

i wonder what it dpes

Byte Commander

Yeah... but who would trust Windows? That's paradox.

Zanna

who would trust windows... a fool ^_^

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

i was in the windows thingy

270+ million

Byte Commander

270+ million what?

Dollars they're going to make?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

7:28 AM

users

Zanna

apparently today is the 10,000th day of the web :)

Byte Commander

o.O

grooveplex

really

awesome

happy web 10k day to all of you

I love Python because whitespace is mandatory

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Ignore works so great I can't tell when last I saw Journeyman Geek.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

you blocked journeyman geek?!? @HenryWHHackv2.0

grooveplex

7:31 AM

sometimes I see C or R code, without any whitespace and I'm like... :cries:

Henry WH Hack v2.0

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD No I "Ignored" him.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

why would you "ignore" a moderator

cc ^ @HenryWHHackv2.0

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Is edity a troll?

@ƎpᴉʇʎXD Because you can.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

why would you think I'm a troll

@HenryWHHackv2.0 ^

/facepalm\

5 mins ago, by Henry WH Hack v2.0

Is edity a troll?

Henry WH Hack v2.0

Okay I "Ignored" ƎpᴉʇʎXD.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

7:42 AM

k

♦ Easter Chaos

XKCD's and rm -rf / are here. Although this chatroom feels a b...

so much rm -rf /'s

and if @HenryWHHackv2.0 wasn't "blocking" me...

I regret installing Windows.

Now it spams my screen up with UPDATES things

Who knows, maybe I could join the dark side..

Byte Commander

^_^

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

time to remove windows and stick with linux for the rest of my pencil life

coming feb 2020 ^

Henry WH Hack v2.0

8:00 AM

Has anyone seen Sǝɹƃ since the last time he came in the room?

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

You block me, I block you @HenryWHHackv2.0

.

Byte Commander

8:21 AM

Don't be so childish... :-/

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

ok

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: Bad reputation of reputation

For the record: the post below is not to defend the point where I am standing. That's why I feel I am entitled to bring this up. Every now and then, reputation is brought up in discussions as an argument. Used wrongly in my opinion, for reasons pointed out below. As a general rule, when worki...

discussion

terdon

8:52 AM

@AskUbuntuMeta Does anyone understand what @JacobVlijm is trying to say there?

Byte Commander

Not really...

Stefano Palazzo

@terdon I think basically that hunting reputation is not completely bad

terdon

...

Okay?

@JacobVlijm I think it would be a good idea if you edited your meta post to explain why you're posting it. I honestly don't understand what the point you're trying to make is.

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

night

Stefano Palazzo

that it's good motivation and helps us out if people are doing it because of fake internet points, and that you shouldn't use this fact to denounce their argument

something like that

I guess

ƎpᴉʇʎXD

9:01 AM

good night

grooveplex

9:25 AM

Weird game I just invented: longest traceroute chain (hops or distance between servers) wins

Zanna

haha is it fun?

grooveplex

@Zanna It doesn't really exist yet, but I could make it into a little Python script today

Zanna

well... I am very easily amused... groupadd unicorns && adduser zanna unicorns I'm a unicorn! ^_^

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grooveplex

hahaha

The longest I found so far is amsterdam.com that has 20 hops

please.com, too

this.com has 19 and theworld.com 16

A lot of domains pass *.cogentco.com at some point

I'm going to find out why

Stefano Palazzo

9:50 AM

@grooveplex Cogent is a big ISP that is in many data centres around the world

Zanna

nice graphic <333

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

10:09 AM

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Q: How to modify a SSH by appending JSON for Google cloud compute VPS?

How can I edit this dummy key: thufir@mordor:~$ thufir@mordor:~$ ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096 -C hawat.thufir@gmail.com Generating public/private rsa key pair. Enter file in which to save the key (/home/thufir/.ssh/id_rsa): Created directory '/home/thufir/.ssh'. Enter passphrase (empty for no pas...

ubuntu ssh vps cloud google

grooveplex

10:20 AM

@StefanoPalazzo I see!

CodeX

10:45 AM

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Thomas Ward

11:57 AM

(Enforcement starts July 29, 2016) Ubuntu Wily 15.10 is now End of Life as of today, July 28th, 2016. This is the day upon which Wily reaches End of Life, as was stated in the announcement notice of the EOL date on Meta and the email announcement message of the EOL date.

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Byte Commander

@ThomasWard So are 15.10 questions off-topic now already or okay until tomorrow?

Thomas Ward

If we go strictly by this clause in the email...

> As a non-LTS release, 15.10 has a 9-month
month support cycle and, as such, the support period is now nearing
its end and Ubuntu 15.10 will reach end of life on Thursday, July
28th. At that time, Ubuntu Security Notices will no longer include
information or updated packages for Ubuntu 15.10.

... then questions not about upgrading from 15.10 to a newer release would be offtopic.

IIRC that's how we've handled EOL in the past.

Byte Commander

Yes, but starting this morning or starting tomorrow morning?

Thomas Ward

the usual exceptions apply of course, with regards to EOL questions

edwinksl

it is still not clear to me

Thomas Ward

12:22 PM

o/ @Oli @jokerdino

Zacharee1

TIME TO KILL

Zanna

kill what?

edwinksl

rip in pepperonis 15.10

Thomas Ward

Actually, disregard what I said

grabs an Ubuntu VM and tests something

Zacharee1

@Zanna Wily Q's

@ThomasWard wut

jokerdino

12:25 PM

@ThomasWard o/

Zacharee1

no 15.10 questions :(

wait

AH askubuntu.com/questions/803937/…

there was one

Zanna

is it specific to version?

Zacharee1

maybe not

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 @ByteCommander @edwinksl Enforcement starts tomorrow. Decision amongst the mods.

Zacharee1

darn

edwinksl

12:30 PM

juan moar day

Zacharee1

@Zanna I think any questions that ask about errors happening on EOL releases are OT because we don't know if it's specific or not. Asking how to use apt-get when using 15.10 (which would be a dupe anyway, but ignore that) would be on-topic since it's obviously not specific to just 15.10

Byte Commander

@ThomasWard Okay, thanks.

@Zacharee1 But it behaves different on EOL releases due to repositories being moved to old-releases...

Zacharee1

@ByteCommander yeah, but the usage itself it the same :p

j0h

12:46 PM

I have a HASP DRM Key that unlocks a disk image part way though boot. Can someone tell me how I can use the key to mount the disk image on a non-booting image mounted on my hard drive? (Im not sure if it will mount properly, without the DRM key)

Videonauth

Ubuntu 16.10 Alpha 2 Is Available to Download Now http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/ubuntu-16-10-alpha-2-available-download-now https://t.co/ENecgdxVHb

Tweeted by omgubuntu on July 28, 2016 at 12:20 PM

Zacharee1

@Videonauth OT

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Ubuntu wifi connects and works for 5 minutes then stops working while remaining connected, need help

so, a few months ago i decided i wanted to make the switch to linux on my laptop, but to play it safe, i chose to dual boot. right now i have my 1TB hard drive split even between ubuntu 14.04 and windows 10. wifi and ethernet work great in windows, and wifi works great in ubuntu--for about five ...

ubuntu networking wifi dual-boot ethernet

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

1:02 PM

0

Q: Node modules deploy on linux

I'd like to know what's the best way to deploy a website using node_modules... When I do du -sh node_modules, I get 400 MO. Is there any solutions to compress node_modules ?

ubuntu node.js

terdon

Does sudo service networking stop work in the latest Ubuntu or has the switch to systemd removed the service command?

Zacharee1

I still use that on 16.04

Zanna

works for me (and I'm still using sudo service network-manager restart all the time) (16.04 here)

terdon

Cool, thanks

edwinksl

1:24 PM

@Zacharee1 flagged

m$ spam, interesting

user136984

1:57 PM

What time does 15.10 go EOL today?

edwinksl

presumably july 29 UTC 0:00?

user136984

@edwinksl: No, some time today they will email the ubuntu-release (I think it is) mailing list to say as of now it's EOL. It is some time today, that's for sure, officially anyway.

user136984

Or at least, it's always been like that with previous EOL releases.

Zacharee1

they already did

we're supporting it still until tomorrow though

user136984

I haven't received an email on the matter yet...

edwinksl

2:00 PM

@Zacharee1 whose timezone are we using to define "tomorrow"

user136984

I haven't heard anywhere that it's gone EOL officially yet.

user136984

@edwinksl: Probably UTC along with the Ubuntu development etc teams.

Zacharee1

utc

why don't you two read the pinned star?

user136984

I have, that's why I brought the matter up...

user136984

Oh, I don't know, it's all confusing...

edwinksl

2:02 PM

@Zacharee1 wut? it doesn't say anything about timezone

user136984

I'm just going to wait until I get the email...

Zacharee1

@edwinksl read a bit below it in the chat

edwinksl

still says nothing about it

user136984

Oh, and 16.10 Alpha 2 has also been released today! :)

Videonauth

2:18 PM

1 hour ago, by Videonauth

Ubuntu 16.10 Alpha 2 Is Available to Download Now http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/07/ubuntu-16-10-alpha-2-available-download-now https://t.co/ENecgdxVHb

Tweeted by omgubuntu on July 28, 2016 at 12:20 PM

but i got told its OT

:p

Zacharee1

@Videonauth OT

Videonauth

@Zacharee1 yeah love you too :p

Zacharee1

:p

edwinksl

flagged as OT

@Videonauth repent now