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9:00 AM
lol
I use they when I'm unsure, since its fairly similar to the 'singular respectful' we use
 
yeah English needs a 'singular respectful' :)
 
Well, our default plural form being 'plural' of the singlar respectful anyway.
 
Amazon split up my orders into 5 part delivery..
 
that's 5 separate presents to open @jokerdino ^_^
@JourneymanGeek what's your language?
 
singlish
 
9:03 AM
tamil
 
tamil
 
don't lie, jg, we all know it is singlish
 
@Zanna each one arriving at different days of the week \o/
 
:)
@jokerdino even better! I love getting mail ^_^
 
writes a letter to Zanna.
@JourneymanGeek but it does lean towards masculine.
 
9:06 AM
@jokerdino vaguely
but my native accent is coimbature, and... that's kinda like super super super polite/respectful
so, I don't think of it as such
Also, I knew a few folks tho don't fit the classic gender binary, so the least heaachy term of reference is "whatever pronoun you prefer". Tho, the ones starting with z feel somewhat shoehorned to me.
 
I don't have a problem but I understand how it can be a problem.
 
And there's folk like gracenote, where they randomly switch between gendered pronouns ;p
 
You say avan / aval / avar and if you brahminize it, it becomes avaa.
 
lol
Is that a braminism?
 
definitely
 
9:13 AM
I always thought avaa was a lazy/less respectful plural.
 
most others don't use ava lol
@JourneymanGeek that one is a lost battle for me
These days, I use the musical note instead.
"♪ said this and ♪ did that."
 
ahh. I didn't realise that
 
How hard it is to ask people to redirect a question to a user ?
I mean really , is it hard to ping someone in chat with a link to a question ?
 
I don't get it.
 
ah
@Serg depends on whether they are on chat
 
9:21 AM
no, it depends on people not being stubborn and "following rules" because by those same rules they could get burned
 
can you be specific?
 
I was about to suggest the same
 
I can see you have something to talk about but if you are being vague and ambiguous, we can't really make any progress on it.
 
That
I cannot reach Tim and explain that I am not against close -voting . Just let people translate and edit foreign posts
 
but what purpose would it serve if you translate their post and they are not going to understand if you retained their meaning and even then, what guarantee can we provide that they can follow whatever answer they receive on their post?
 
9:28 AM
@Serg pretty much. Especially where they've not paid attention to the fact that the rest of the site is in english
 
This absolutely is an English-only site and it will be that way for the foreseeable future.
and once again, closing is not the end of the world. You can edit it and go through the reopen process.
 
@jokerdino that's my whole point ! Let someone know, let them edit it , reopen, and move on. We do that already. And by god yes, I am willing to translate both questions and answers if that helps
 
@Serg if we are doing it already, then what is the issue here?
 
@jokerdino we're doing this already but with other questions. Foreign language posts just get burried and hardly ever get edited. Just some crappy google translate text added . This type of editing doesn't do any justice to those who want to answer questions , nor to those who ask questions .
 
9:36 AM
guys, sorry to interrupt, but we have a troll askubuntu.com/questions/150617/…
 
sweeps him under the rug.
 
thanks for swift action :D
 
hopefully no breadcrumbs under the rug as well, that could be dangerous, you know never feeed the trolls :p
 
@Serg IMO, it's a waste of time translating posts when there are other places where native users can get help.
you don't see a lot of other language posts here because they already have support structure available. Only a couple people stray to AU.
Some things that come to mind -- Launchpad Answers, forums in their own languages and even local community help out with issues.
 
And why are people so against letting a few other people help those stray people ?
 
9:42 AM
because it's a waste of time?
this time will snowball
 
there's plenty of other methods of wasting time , nobody complains about them though
 
bring them up and we shall complain about them too.
 
In any case, I said all i wanted to say : if you see a Russian or Chinese question , ping me , I'll translate it and the answers that follow.
 
that could be done
 
good . . . thank you
This is a beautiful answer XD
 
9:57 AM
waste of a good name indeed
 
Hmm
 
10:25 AM
@jokerdino may i haz non-AU question ?
 
sure
 
Do you have github ?
 
yeah
 
May I follow your repositories ?
 
yes sure, use your discretion.
dont think there is anything in my github though
just had it because all the cool kids had one.
 
10:28 AM
So you don't post anything there ?
 
i don't make any to post :(
 
well that's sad :(
I actually find it quite useful to post my scripts both here and there. Sure, it's more editing work, but it's simple as git commit -a -m "some stuff" ; git push
 
I know how to use git, don't worry
 
Iwasn't saying you don't :)
 
I just wanted to tell the world that I know how to use it.
though if you ask me how, I point to Google.
 
10:33 AM
which would probably point you to SO
 
not much. I find random blog posts and git manuals alongside SO posts.
and I end up brute forcing all my problems away.
 
some combination of git-scm and SO posts suffices in most cases ;)
 
yep
 
i usually go to SO first. If it doesn't make sense, blogs are next
 
some of the highly upvoted git posts are outdated though, so there are times where you would have to scroll a bit more
 
10:39 AM
speaking of which, @jokerdino can we edit posts to update them or just post new answer ?
 
depends on the extent of the edit
 
for instance ?
 
if you are making minor updates, then it's OK.
If the update is to the extent of replacing original content, then no.
and I am divided about adding updates to reflect changes in newer versions.
If it is my answer, I would append changes with regards to later versions.
 
btw, looks like OP added his/her own solution to the question. i think we should extract it into a community wiki instead? askubuntu.com/questions/787008/…
 
If someone else's, would rather add a new answer.
@edwinksl yes
 
10:44 AM
okay on it
 
10:56 AM
welp, adios for now
o/
 
yo!
 
Just had to come back to share this amazing answer : stackoverflow.com/a/400955/3701431
Two chars , 40 upvotes
three chars if you count the dot
 
lol isn't there a min char requirement?
 
11:11 AM
Apparently not . . . ?!
Aaaaah
 
@Serg blankspaces :+
 
@Rinzwind his answer doesn;t have no backspaces
It's from 2008 , so maybe at the time there was no limit
 
see the edit history >:-)
he deleted most of the answer.
 
what a trick
 
11:13 AM
@Serg Could you please format the powerflow-indy output better, maybe even allowing custom format strings as commandline argument?
 
@ByteCommander what do you mean ?
 
I don't like the always changing number of decimal places.
 
I am ready for the F1 race :+
 
what ? changing number of decimal places ?
 
I think the values are large enough to completely omit them and use integers instead maybe.
 
11:15 AM
@ByteCommander you have a screenshot of that ? Mine works with 3 decimal places only
 
e.g. it displays 653.28291mA and after a second 670.23mA or so
 
Ah, that . . .
 
And 4 decimal places is far too much detail anyway.
round it to full watts or milli-amps, I'd say.
 
@ByteCommander Ok , I can change it to only display miliamps without decimal places
 
11:17 AM
@ByteCommander I'll change watts to two decimal places if that's OK with you
Watts variations need a bit more precision, i think .
 
@Serg You could add an argparse option like -d/--decimals or -p/--precision. And maybe also an -i/--interval one.
 
@ByteCommander what do you expect --interval to do ?
@ByteCommander I've changed miliamps to show only integer parts and watts to 2 decimal places. If that's OK for now, i'll push it off to github
 
11:35 AM
It should set the polling interval. It seems to be about 1 second currently, but maybe somebody would like 0.5 or 2 seconds some time...
 
I could do that . . .
 
@Serg Oh, and another issue, not sure if it's a bug in your code or any library though.
 
Pushed off the changes to github just now
 
if I start it from the terminal and try to kill it from there using CTRL+C, it stops responding, but does not quit.
I have to click "Quit" from its indicator menu twice (!) then to get rid of id.
 
@ByteCommander it seems to me more of a GUI apps issue . I've had this issue with others as well - pyqt for instance
I still have found no way of workaround for it
 
11:39 AM
Isn't there a thing like exception hooks that you could use?
Not sure, I never dived into that direction yet...
 
@ByteCommander I tried to use exceptions. It doesn't help
I was doing this:
   def run(self):

        try:
            gtk.main()
        except KeyboardInterrupt:
            pass
 
No, a normal try/catch would not help as the gtk main loop probably catches KeyboardInterrupt internally.
 
instead of pass I had gtk.main_quit()
 
let me look through the docs...
 
Sure . . . i need to sleep though
 
11:42 AM
no night-owling today?
Or is it morning at your place already?
 
5:44 am already
i woke at like 5pm yesterday
 
father wasn't quite happy
maybe i should stay up all day ?
 
If you go on sleeping later a few minutes every day, you'll soon be back at the point where you go to bed in the evening and wake up in the morning...
 
i could run away to gym. that's an option
it's a persistent issue. i don't recall if i tried sleeping earlier every night like you said, but nothing has helped over years
it suck too that i can't get any understanding from folks either
 
11:47 AM
I said sleeping later every night, not earlier.
 
ok, later. phrasing issues
 
If you go on like this, you'll start a loop.
 
a for loop or while loop ? #sergjoke
 
@Serg if some random guy from the internet can comfort you here - I understand you.
While, obviously.
 
:3 that's actually why i am on AU that much - i feel comfortable here.
 
11:51 AM
while not Serg.lives_with_girlfriend() and Serg.is_alive():
    Serg.bed_time += 1
 
Shouldn't it say Serg.bed_time -= 1 ?
5 -1 == 4 , and so on
 
I mean clock time when you go to bed, not sleeping duration.
 
No, my clock time is actually 5 am . Lately it's been 6 am
sleep duration ranges from 9 - 12 hours
 
That sounds like a healthy amount though. Almost too much even.
 
that's my natural amount of sleep . When I go to work or have classes, i average around 4 - 6 hours, which makes me feel fatigued in the morning.
 
11:59 AM
IIRC 7-8 hours is the ideal amount of sleep for the average of most people. Less is unhealthy and more does not have any effect.
Exact values differ individually, of course.
 
This is so funny and sad too #sysadmin #life #IT VIA @Spiceworks https://t.co/CdZyInq0ko
3
 
yup, that's correct
@Videonauth #5 was actually a true story that happened once to me. For some odd reason a guy tried to insert his SD card into DVD slot on iMac . . . .Of course it's not like PC , where we could just unscrew a few things and get it out . . . .
 
xD LOL
 
@JacobVlijm why did you delete this one askubuntu.com/a/620540/295286 ? Seems like valid answer to me
 
Doctor @Serg to the operation room please, we must do an emergency surgery on the open iMac!
 
12:05 PM
le facepalm . . . Frankly, i have never opened up iMac myself.
So . . . just a vote , guys. Sleep or try to stay awake whole day ?
 
12:29 PM
@Serg actually it's amazing how neatly I fit into the narrow space between the blanket and my mattress.
 
@Takkat heavy blanket ? or super soft mattress ?
 
@Serg hard mattress and extra light blanket that is... why?
 
I thought narrow space was due to heavy blanket that wraps up everything . . .
 
both are made as if their only purpose was to comfort and please me.
and to make me feel bad outside of my bed.
 
I have this pillow , which is made of foam. Super flexible, hard at first, then softens. It's like ideal for my head
I wanna get a second one like this sometime
 
12:38 PM
yeah this thermo foam stuff is great!
 
1:00 PM
@Serg That's just it. Questions that aren't in English are neither legitimate nor on topic.
 
1:47 PM
@Serg I don't remember very well, but I think it was because it didn't work well in op's situation...
 
2:26 PM
Hello
 
2:46 PM
hi
 
@Seth True, but I can't remove the useless answer afterwards.
 
What do we do with this? askubuntu.com/questions/398969/…
(I'd remove it)
 
lol
"please upvote a bit"
 
I had a problem in my VM of Ubuntu. I posted a question about it. The problem was resolved without understanding why (next time I used the computer the problem was no more there). Should I delete the question or what is the best option?
 
2:59 PM
Does it have any answers?
@PichiWuana
 
@grooveplex No, just comments.
 
Then yes, delete it. Or give me a link to it and I'll close it as non-reproducible. Deleting too many of your own posts can lead to an automatic suspension, but one or two should be fine.
 
Why does deleting lead to a suspension? I read that it's because people wasted their time in your question but if it doesn't have answers? Do you have a link that explains it?
 
@PichiWuana Deleting a single question won't get you suspended.
However, if you do it often, you will.
Also, as your rep increases, the system allows for more deleted posts.
 
@AndroidDev But why if I delete a couple of questions? I want to understand the logic and tried to find a question that explains it in the Meta Stack Exchange but didn't find it.
 
3:08 PM
@PichiWuana It's more than just that. Deleting a question with many downvotes is detrimental.
 
That's why I wanted to find an answer about it in the meta
@terdon Actually the problem reappeared
 
@PichiWuana The thought is that if you're deleting a post because it got downvoted, you aren't writing high-quality posts, and therefore the system suspends you.
 
@PichiWuana OK, then I'll leave it be.
 
At least that's how I understand it.
 
Hmm I see
 
3:11 PM
@AndroidDev Yes, and also that your posts don't belong to you. When you post something here, you release it under the MIT licence (or the CC-by-SA or whatever licence) and it no longer belongs to you but to the site. Deleting content from the site is generally a bad thing so deleting too many of your own posts can lead to a suspension.
 
@terdon Look at the rev history: askubuntu.com/questions/802391/…
 
@AndroidDev Yes?
You mean that the OP reintroduced errors you had fixed?
 
@terdon Precisely.
 
Well, your next two seem to have been left alone. Flag the post if it continues.
 
@terdon I even left a nice comment to make sure I understood correctly.
But I left it as "crashed" after he put the errors back in.
 
3:18 PM
Yeah, as far as I can tell, your actions were fine.
The OP probably thinks that's correct and assumes your edit was wrong. As I said, just flag if he does it again.
 
My question about debugging is similar to this one. One answered that a simple chmod+x solved the problem. Where I am supposed to write chmod+x?
 
@terdon Understood.
@PichiWuana In the terminal.
 
@AndroidDev I close first the debugger program right? When I write chmod+x it says command not found and when I write chmod +x it says missing operand after +x.
 
@PichiWuana I am having trouble understanding your question. You need to show us the command you are running. Presumably, you are trying to run the debugger on a file that isn't executable, so running chmod a+x /path/to/target/file should fix it.
 
@PichiWuana - This ^^^
 
3:22 PM
@PichiWuana You need to run in on the target file. So, if you're trying to debug /home/pichi/myfile, you need to run chmod a+x /home/pichi/myfile
 
@terdon He is executable. When I run it it prints what it should print.
 
@PichiWuana One of the things is not executable. Edit your question and add the exact command you are running and the output of ls -l on each of the relevant files.
 
I will edit it now
@terdon I want just to debug one file called program. Do I show only the ls -l output of that file?
 
Yes
And the command you use to run the debugger
 
3:43 PM
ok thanks for your help
 
askubuntu.com/questions/661168/… has lots of low quality answers
 
3:59 PM
@terdon I edited it.
 
@grooveplex protected it.
 
4:36 PM
Good!
now I think a mod can remove the most low quality answers
 
flag them if you think they are VLQ
 
Don't flag them as VLQ, please.
 
oh sorry @jokerdino
 
5:15 PM
@jokerdino why not?
 
5:46 PM
@JacobVlijm xrandr --rotate failed askubuntu.com/questions/802430/…
 
Because that's a lazy way of saying this answer needs to be improved but I am not willing to do it.
 
@jokerdino So why does that flag exist at all in your opinion then?
 
it shouldn't and mods are trying to get rid of it.
 
10
Q: Remove VLQ as a flag option

ArtOfCodeThe Very Low Quality flag option sucks. prepares for controversy I'd like to see it removed totally as a flag option. Its original purpose was as a response to contentless or meaningless posts; posts that aren't answers, aren't coherent, aren't even made up of words. It was intended for cases w...

 
5:48 PM
Should we flag as NAA instead? The effect would be the same.
 
yes, that's preferred.
 
But the effect is exactly the same, right? Just the button is labelled differently.
 
NAA indicates a post is not an answer to the question. VLQ suggests the post may be an answer but not in its current form.
If you want to flag something as VLQ, better you edit it and make it better.
 
He Rinzy @Rinzwind
 
yo
 
5:53 PM
@Zacharee1 I did yours now do mine :P wn.nr/wYKg3Z (OP3 giveaway)
 
back after Tales Of Zestiria :+)
 
@Rinzwind wb
 
@jokerdino Do you edit every horrible piece of text you come across if it might possibly contain a few useful words?
 
Try doing it for 50x posts on a weekly basis and you will know why mods hate VLQs.
 
@ByteCommander dude, we're discussing link only's here, not actual VLQ stuff.
Although VLQ itself is hardly useful.
 
5:56 PM
Time to change topics...
How about merging/synonyizing tags? I could propose and
 
Does someone know how to step-into with GDB?
 
do we need a tag for that @Byte?
 
@Seth We definitely don't need two.
And yes, I just used them.
Btw, this could be a migration candidate to Super User: askubuntu.com/q/802425/367990
 
@jokerdino It's impossible anyway
@jokerdino done that :)
 
@ByteCommander that doesn't mean they are actually useful tags..
but yeah, we don't need two.
 
6:08 PM
Delete answer (just quoting other answer of same Q) askubuntu.com/a/802434/367990
@Seth I would say that this topic is specific enough to have its own tag. xrandr or display are too general IMHO.
 
:)
Time for a Phil Taylor beating by Michael van Gerwen
newbie of the day: askubuntu.com/questions/802419/… :-X
 
6:23 PM
allemachtig
 
me 2
we should have a native method of installing an ISO into a partition where grub is auto-setup to boot from it :-P
 
What to do with askubuntu.com/q/802443/367990 ? VTC as unclear? I admit it could maybe be edited (remove 70% of the words), but I'm too lazy.
 
pity we don't have a "too much ranting" :P
 
tmr;dr
o.O
That song on the webradio...
Uhm...
Pretty NSFW title...
 
6:31 PM
made a comment to it
any one read up about debian systems ditching xorg.conf?
 
lemme see if I can still find it
 
thinking about what to have for dinner is enough planning for the future for me...
well, not really. But in this case I wait until it comes.
 
sushi? :=)
 
6:35 PM
I had sushi (^_^)
 
@ByteCommander sushi hater!
 
I'm not too much into sushi. Only had it about two or three times in my life yet and it was not really good enough to justify the price.
Btw, I haven't even thought about dinner today yet ^_^
 
I have had several weeks where I ate sushi more often than you did your whole life :=)
cant find the news thingy on xorg :(
 
My neck hurts because xrandr is not able to rotate my screen :P
 
@ByteCommander I edited this glob of text into something readable
@ByteCommander Keep
 
6:40 PM
still too much rambling ;-)
 
woo I had 300 edit suggestions approved
 
gratz
 
I have edited 1284 posts >:-D
 
@Rinzwind I have edited 1065 posts - within one and a half years only!
 
6:48 PM
excellent :-)
 
7:05 PM
<-- 922 posts edited
 
Well, nobody can beat a man who never sleeps and has nothing better to do...
Nice.
 
7:23 PM
yeah well last two weeks i have rarely answered something or edited just had a bit to do here at home (paperwork sighs)
 
@Zanna please, Please, PLEASE stop deleting your good and helpful answers. It always makes me sad.
 
@Rinzwind That last sentence "Reply me ASAP." makes me want to literally reply "ASAP".
 
:P
and right you would be >:-)
 
8:27 PM
@ByteCommander awww I don't wanna make you sad, but really there is no need for that answer at all... it makes AU better to delete imho. I'm getting on the underground so bbl
 
8:51 PM
off-topic (Win software recommendation) askubuntu.com/q/802480/367990
 
9:04 PM
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Q: Delete own answer if somebody posts a more thorough answer later?

Byte CommanderLets say I answer a question and a few minutes or hours later I notice that somebody else also answered it after me. That other answer includes all the information given in mine plus additional ways to do it or with better explanation. In short, I was faster, but the other answer is better. Com...

 
FlightGear is pretty neat.
 
any easy way to confirm my bootloader is grub2? (I mean, I believe it is but I'm not 100% sure, though grub1 is probably obsolete?)
 
@NathanOsman I never could get it to work well though
but that was probably because it was so complex and I had no idea what I was doing.
 
^ me too
 
@Seth It takes time.
 
9:12 PM
I think I tried playing this game a loooooong time ago
 
I finally managed to figure out how to start the engine.
...and not have it stall.
There are tutorials now, so that helps a bit.
 
might try to install it again
 
I'm sure a tiny Cessna is easier to fly than a Boeing or Airbus jetliner too.
Wow, it sure installs a lot of files, though.
 
I was thinking about a 'discrete' bootloader, like pressing some key during start up to show OS selection menu, otherwise boot the default OS, is it possible and easy to implement?
 
Grub can probably be configured to do that.
 
9:22 PM
and by the way, I've 2 distros installed in 2 different partitions, means I have 2 grubs installed too right? but one has the priority? Or is /boot mounted in both distros, but point to the same bootloader?
 
Although the default behavior is to boot the default OS anyway if the selection is not changed after a few seconds.
@IanC No, you only have a single bootloader installed on each disk.
 
so /boot is actually a mounted partition that points to the same place in both distros?
my bad, /boot only holds the bootloader configuration right?
 
Grub is a two-stage loader.
 
the bootloader itself is in the first block of the HD
 
The first stage is stored on the MBR and loads the second stage on /boot.
 
9:25 PM
got it, the second stage will be on the /boot of my last installed distro right?
 
When installing the second distro, you are probably asked whether you want to keep the existing bootloader or install the one that distro provides.
If you install the new one, the old one will have its second stage intact but won't load because the first stage points to the second stage on the new distro.
Or something like that :D
 
cool! grub(1) is obsolete right?
like, nowadays only grub2 is installed?
 
Yes.
 
thanks Nathan! I'll make some research about how to customize it the way I want :)
 
No problem.
 
9:38 PM
erg stupid facebook
looks like someone signed up with my email or something
with a fake name
or rather my nick name
I clicked this wasn't me, after making sure it was of facebook... and they want identity photos... I don't even want an account...
I sent some random screenshots... hopefully they just nuke the account.
 
@NathanOsman Really? I installed that a few weeks ago but forgot about it and haven't run it a single time yet...
 
What's cooler than flying an airplane?
 
@Mateo change his password and close the account .. xD I have an easy email like xxxx@outlook.com ..random people use it for registration
 
yeah, I'll probally have to ditch my email then... since I don't want an account, and I don't want my name associated with my email either
 
@NathanOsman Not flying like a drunk seagull.
I got the Microsoft Flight Sim 2000 somewhere, that one is easier to fly - and the graphics are about equal.
Just managed to dive upside-down into the ground.
What is that square shaped pull button next to the throttle good for btw?
And why is there a bacon switch?
Oh. It's beacon! >.<
 

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