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8:00 PM

Nobody can get on to those except for when you have physical access. And all that system is allowed is to pull in specific directories and specific tar files :+)

David Cole - Grammar Police

8:19 PM

Is CMKS using a 2nd account?

+300 rep in 1 day..

Rinzwind

not that difficult: 100 bounty for instance ;-)

David Cole - Grammar Police

also every single one of his answers has been upvoted

EVER

bur only once

but*

Rinzwind

ah he got a +50 bounty awarded

kos

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Substracting +100 of the association bonus and +50 of the bounty we're left with +140, which is not uncommon.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Mm.. 14 upvoted answers still sounds fishy

Rinzwind

8:22 PM

he got 414 rep and reached 381 people. funny

David Cole - Grammar Police

yea.

thats whatni mean

what I*

kos

*+128

Rinzwind

here he has 2 answers: askubuntu.com/questions/741574/…

he only has 6 accepted answers

out of 32 answers

David Cole - Grammar Police

hm..

kos

Also their rep today comes from all different (many also estabilished) accounts, I'd say the gain is perfectly legit.

David Cole - Grammar Police

8:27 PM

aight... wow good for them

topic-jump, anyone know why a 3 TB HDD Drive wouldn't work with Windows?

kos

Incompatible filesystem?

Seth

What was it formatted?

David Cole - Grammar Police

No clue, I have no idea how to use gparted

Seth

is it plugged in right now?

(I assume you're running Linux right now as well)

David Cole - Grammar Police

nope lemme do so

yes i am

Slight problem

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

8:31 PM

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Q: Kernel Module - Security

Is it possible to create a kernel module that logs every failed login attempts in my Ubuntu desktop? I know there are existing tools that can accomplish this but I want to make this as my own personal project. Is it also possible to send an email to me for every failed login attempts?

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Q: Use "module load" as root on Ubuntu 14.04

I have a series of tools that I load into my workspace using "module load 'tool ". However, if I try and run this command as root (or just using sudo), I get "module:command not found". None of the module package commands are available. Is there a way to get this to work? I just need to run once ...

ubuntu sudo

Seth

When you're done run sudo parted -l and paste the output.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Uh well as soon as I plug in the drive and boot the PC I get A2 Error from motherboard, appartently it's trying to boot from the drive...

Idk what to do

Seth

What make and model?

(computer)

David Cole - Grammar Police

CUstom

Seth

well then change the boot order in the BIOS.

David Cole - Grammar Police

8:33 PM

cant... Bios screen freezes :(

Seth

well then you've got more than one problem it would seem.

David Cole - Grammar Police

yea...

Zacharee1

> Because, unlike Apple, I can't just create a new operating system that suddenly means your old cereal is incompatible with your mouth

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Food Waste (HBO)

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kos

Try putting the primary HDD first when the drive is not attached, shutting down, plugging the drive in and turning on again

David Cole - Grammar Police

Tried

No success

kos

8:36 PM

So it freezes no matter what?

David Cole - Grammar Police

Yea..

It sucks

kos

Reset CMOS?

David Cole - Grammar Police

whats that

and how do i do it

kos

Technically you should boot without a jumper on the motherboard, but it's faster to remove the battery.

David Cole - Grammar Police

battery?

Zacharee1

8:37 PM

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice take out the battery if you have a laptop, take out the watch battery inside the computer, unplug the computer from power, hold down the power button for 10 seconds

David Cole - Grammar Police

Im on a desktop not a laptop

Zacharee1

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice there's still a watch battery inside

David Cole - Grammar Police

where?

Zacharee1

Somewhere on the motherboard

kos

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice techsupportforum.com/forums/…

Zacharee1

8:38 PM

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice ^ that

David Cole - Grammar Police

Im using an ASROCK Z787 Extreme4

kos

Remove it for 10 seconds just to be sure, then plug it back in.

Zacharee1

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Just look on the board

David Cole - Grammar Police

okay I found it

Zacharee1

@kos @DavidCole-GrammarPolice power button needs to be held for that time too

David Cole - Grammar Police

8:39 PM

Now take it out while the computer is ON, or turn it off?

Zacharee1

Unplug everything, take out that battery

So yes, shut down

kos

@Zacharee1 Huh? No, it doesn't.

Zacharee1

@kos residual power

capacitors?

It's just an extra caution

kos

@Zacharee1 After 10 seconds they'll hardly be still charged, but yeah

David Cole - Grammar Police

Okay, power supply is off, taking out battery

Zacharee1

8:40 PM

@kos No, hold down the power button right after you take the battery out

It'll go faster, and make sure eveything's discharged

David Cole - Grammar Police

Wait... would a reset on my motherboard work?

Zacharee1

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice ?

David Cole - Grammar Police

theres a gray reset button

Zacharee1

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice that just reboots the computer without a safe shut down

different reset

David Cole - Grammar Police

oh ok

kos

8:41 PM

@Zacharee1 Yeah, got it, I'm saying that 10 seconds should be plenty enough for the residual to discharge.

Zacharee1

@kos Just let him do it :p

kos

@Zacharee1 I never disagreed on doing that regardless. :P

David Cole - Grammar Police

I cant even get this damn battery out

Zacharee1

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice press down on one side so the other side pops out

Or get a flathead screwdriver

David Cole - Grammar Police

not that simple

theres a strange metal piece

Zacharee1

8:44 PM

It is, I've done this before :p

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice press on the part of the battery that piece is near and sort of push down and away from it

David Cole - Grammar Police

got it out

now hold the power button for 10 seconds u said?

Zacharee1

OK, now make sure the power cable is unplugged and hold down the power button

about 10 seconds yes

David Cole - Grammar Police

k now what

Zacharee1

Put everything back in

Flat side of the battery is up

David Cole - Grammar Police

mhm

Zacharee1

8:47 PM

And turn it on again

David Cole - Grammar Police

aight

it wont turn on

Zacharee1

What was your original problem?

David Cole - Grammar Police

no

Zacharee1

Is it plugged it?

David Cole - Grammar Police

yes

the graphics card seems to have power

Zacharee1

8:49 PM

Try again, but hold down the power button for a little longer

David Cole - Grammar Police

as in take the battery out again?

Zacharee1

No

kos

Retry... After a CMOS reset they sometimes fake-boot or do some other weird stuff.

Zacharee1

Hold down the power button with everything plugged in for about 2 seconds

brb

Rinzwind

weird ... askubuntu.com/questions/746005/uc-browser-on-ubuntu

2 non regged users

David Cole - Grammar Police

8:50 PM

No!!!! It wont turn on :(((

kos

Power cord is plugged in? Power supply switch is turned on?

David Cole - Grammar Police

checking

Seth

I once had a monitor with that problem. Power cable wasn't plugged in to the outlet -.-

Rinzwind

lol

kos

Lol.

David Cole - Grammar Police

8:53 PM

everything's plugged in. Still wont turn on

Rinzwind

I know a company where they wanted to move a computer that was using the higher power output (not the 220 volts) (not sure how they call it in english). So it has a fixed connection to the power supply. To move it they cut the wire _O-

David Cole - Grammar Police

Guys did I just brick my pc

kos

Battery is back in place? Did you touch the motherboard's power cables?

David Cole - Grammar Police

nopw

battery is in

Cables are in place

kos

Power button is plugged into the motherboard?

David Cole - Grammar Police

8:56 PM

yes, and power button on motherboard wont work eitjer

WTF

kos

Double-check the cables. Removing the CMOS battery can't brick the motherboard.

Seth

no, but static can.

Rinzwind

static will :=)

Seth

yes, will. Not can.

David Cole - Grammar Police

I just pressed a black button on the board and it booted back to what it was before, UNCLUDING THE DAMN A2 ERROR

UGH

What is HAPPENING

kos

8:58 PM

Well however yes, next time maybe unplug the power cord even before removing the battery.

David Cole - Grammar Police

I did

kos

A2 I read should be a problem with detecting drives.

David Cole - Grammar Police

yes

same thing happened -.-

WTFFFFF

@kos what should i do

kos

Try booting with only one drive plugged in at the time... You likely have a faulty drive

David Cole - Grammar Police

I do.. the HDD is faulty

We have established that

kos

9:06 PM

Can you boot into the OS?

David Cole - Grammar Police

unless I unplug the drive, no

idk wtf to do

I need that drive

@kos

kos

Honestly I think it's time to think about recovering data... It's not a good sign if it fails like that. I'd boot into Ubuntu or a Live DVD and try to recover stuff using testdisk.

Do you have a Live DVD handy?

David Cole - Grammar Police

But I cant plug in the disk and have an OS running

No I dont but I could unplug and make on

one

kos

Your motherboard should be recent enough to support SATA hot-plug.

David Cole - Grammar Police

it does

should I enable that?\

user136984

9:11 PM

How can I tell which of my applications run on Qt?

kos

But mostly do you have another drive into which recover the data?

David Cole - Grammar Police

theres no data on it

I just am trying to format it to install Windows

Rinzwind

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice that's off topic >:-D

David Cole - Grammar Police

RINZ

SHADDAP

kos

So that's a new drive?

David Cole - Grammar Police

9:14 PM

no

had it for a while, just deleted an old Windows installation off of it

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda guessing: check the package for dependency on qt?!

kos

If you keep only that drive plugged in it doesn't boot, right?

David Cole - Grammar Police

nope

well even if another drive is plugged in

user136984

I basically just need to do some debugging, could you name an application which is commonly installed by default and uses qt? :)

Rinzwind

@ParanoidPanda that q has its own wiki page _O- en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Software_that_uses_Qt But I did not see a default Ubuntu app in the list. dolphin. virtualbox.

kos

9:16 PM

I'd try updating the BIOS first then.

Problem is you don't have access to Windows. What motherboard is it again?

David Cole - Grammar Police

ASROCK Z787 Extreme4

Im updating EUFI

kos

Do they have a DOS tool to update the bios? If so you should be able to create a bootable FreeDOS USB with the tool and flash the BIOS.

Oh. Nm.

David Cole - Grammar Police

idek know what BIOS is.. heard of it.. never used it

kos

How are you updating the UEFI exactly?

David Cole - Grammar Police

DHCP FLash

kos

9:21 PM

I think modern UEFIs support upgrading via a USB drive containing the update.

David Cole - Grammar Police

yea but i dont have a USB

kos

You'll need to ask someone to lend you one if you want to try to update the BIOS. If more than one drive doesn't work it's hardly because of the firmware on the drives, much more likely because the firmware of the motherboard.

David Cole - Grammar Police

no no no... its only 1 drive that doewsnt work. What im saying is that it has (for some dumb reason) high boot order that I cannot remove because as soon as I plug it in< i can no longer access EUFI settings

kos

But then just change the boot order when the faulty drive is not plugged in?

David Cole - Grammar Police

cant

Can only change whats plugged in

kos

9:28 PM

Huh. But so you could set the first drive to be (say) the DVD-ROM, couldn't you?

David Cole - Grammar Police

YEs, but as soon as the HDD gets plugged in it will take 1st boot order

any way to plug disk in after OS is booted?

kos

It doesn't matter, you plug it when the system is up already.

hbdgaf

@Seth Oh, I know. I know.

kos

Yes, if the motherboard supports SATA hot-plug (which should).

David Cole - Grammar Police

GOT IT!! IM ABLE TO SEE THE DISK ON UBUNTU

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

9:33 PM

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Q: Drivers, Module - Kernel

Can somebody explain to me what is a character driver? Can somebody explain to me what is a character driver? Can somebody explain to me what is a character driver?

linux ubuntu drivers kernel-modules

David Cole - Grammar Police

NOW FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS MIGHTY, HOW THEEEEE HELLLLLLL DO I FORMAT THIS DRIVE FOR WINDOWS 7

user139252

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Step 1: Don't install Windows 7

David Cole - Grammar Police

haha

funny

user139252

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Just format it in NTFS.

David Cole - Grammar Police

What type filesystem?

user139252

9:35 PM

NTFS

user139252

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David Cole - Grammar Police

what type of partition table

user139252

MBR

David Cole - Grammar Police

cant do that with gparted?

user139252

You can't?

kos

9:36 PM

Are you planning on installing only Windows?

David Cole - Grammar Police

On the 3TB, yes

I have Ubuntu on a seperate 640GB

user139252

Let me grab gparted

David Cole - Grammar Police

k

user139252

So, after a couple of days of playing with Xenial with the bottom launcher bar, I really like it.

kos

Then lsblk, grasp the device, sudo parted <device>, mklabel msdos, q and try to run the Windows installer directly.

user139252

9:38 PM

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice It's the ms-dos option in gparted

David Cole - Grammar Police

Okay will try

Seth

yeah, MBR is sometimes called ms-dos.

David Cole - Grammar Police

partition size is too big

user139252

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice sounds like a Microsoft problem :P

David Cole - Grammar Police

no

user139252

9:40 PM

Partition size is too big... for a msdos table

David Cole - Grammar Police

yes

user139252

Microsoft DOS

David Cole - Grammar Police

...

well shit

what do I do now

user139252

If this was GPT, you'd have no problem :P

user139252

Split it into smaller partitions

David Cole - Grammar Police

9:42 PM

okay..

user139252

keep system on one, data on another

David Cole - Grammar Police

both as ntfs?

user139252

Yep.

user139252

gotta run

kos

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Why would you wanna partition the drive beforehand? Just let the installer do its things. If I'm not mistaken you'll need at least an EFI partition, a System partition and a C: partition. I suggest you let the installer partition things the right way. If you need space for another partition you can shrink the C: partition from the Windows installer.

user136984

9:49 PM

@TheBrownOne: おげんきですか

David Cole - Grammar Police

Okay, so just clear the drive and leave it?
\

@kos

kos

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice That's what I'd try, if the UEFI has problems starting up with the new (empty) partition table, then you're better off upgrading the UEFI / the drive's firmware (or in other words, I doubt partitioning the drive would help).

Seth

user136984

Everyone I speak Japanese to seems to disappear... :D

Seth

lol. Contribute to a GitHub project and suddenly you are confused with the original developer.

@ParanoidPanda That's usually what happens when they say they have to leave. Ahem.

user136984

9:56 PM

@Seth: Oh! I didn't see that! :D

David Cole - Grammar Police

would it be possible for a drive to be completely unallocated and still have info on it?

user136984

@Seth: So, おげんきですか

user136984

:P

Seth

translate: おげんきですか

(from Japanese) How are you?

I'm doing fine thank you.

user136984

Good, I am fine too. :)

user139252

9:57 PM

And I'm back.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Est-ce que vous pouvez parlez en francais?

user139252

@ParanoidPanda I don't speak Japanese(?)

user136984

@TheBrownOne: I didn't think you did. :P

user139252

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice I only speak a little French.

user139252

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Why type of info?

David Cole - Grammar Police

9:59 PM

Okay back to my question. The drive says it's unallocated but when it had its partitions it said 27 GBs were used..

Maybe old Windows files

user139252

If it's unallocated, there is no filesystem associated with that space

David Cole - Grammar Police

Yea ik

user139252

Used space after partitioning/formatting usually comes from the formatting process itself

David Cole - Grammar Police

okay

user139252

Gotta run again...

David Cole - Grammar Police

10:00 PM

one sec

kos

Yeah, files are still there, but for what the filesystem is concerned the disk is empty.

David Cole - Grammar Police

Kos should I add the partition table before I install Windows?

@kos

kos

Yes, that's what I'd try. Just wipe any trace of any previous partition and see if the UEFI doesn't hang. If it still does, you'll have to upgrade something, either the firmware of the drive or the firmware of the motherboard.

David Cole - Grammar Police

okay

trying now

see u on the other side

kos

Wipe any trace of any previous partition = just write a new msdos partition table with Gparted or parted.

Good luck!

Rinzwind

10:05 PM

need 5 more rep :-X hate to ask but ...

David Cole - Grammar Police

well uh

@kos When It went to installation, there was a 2000 GB partition and a 700 GB partition even thouhg GParted said there were none :/

kos

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice That's weird. But so it booted with the disk plugged in, didn't it?

David Cole - Grammar Police

yea. So that's solved

Now I need to somehow write the disk and overwrite files

kos

\o/

Just go through the installer at this point.

David Cole - Grammar Police

?

I cant

Windows gives me an error

Error creating partition on /dev/sda: Command-line `parted --align optimal --script "/dev/sda" "mkpart primary ext2 1MiB 3000592982015b"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Error: partition length of 5860531120 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of 4294967295
(udisks-error-quark, 0)

@kos

user136984

10:15 PM

How do I tell what version of Qt I have installed?

Rinzwind

how large is that disk? You need GPT if above 2Tb. "msdos" can't go higher

kos

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice Windows uses parted?

David Cole - Grammar Police

So I physically cant install Windows on my 3TB?

kos

However what Rinzwind said, you'll need GPT. Forgot it was 3TB.

Rinzwind

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice yes but you then need to setup partitions of -max- 2Tb (preferbly a bit less)

kos

10:16 PM

Doesn't Windows support GPT?

David Cole - Grammar Police

Nope

Not Windows 7 anyways

Rinzwind

Q. Can Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows Server 2008 read, write, and boot from GPT disks?

A. Yes, all versions can use GPT partitioned disks for data. Booting is only supported for 64-bit editions on UEFI-based systems.

I think it can ;=)

David Cole - Grammar Police

dafuq

I tried but it didnt work

Rinzwind

need 64 bit though ;-)

David Cole - Grammar Police

thats a problem

Rinzwind

10:17 PM

and your w7 could be 32bit

David Cole - Grammar Police

damnit

time to find a 64 bit online

:-)

Rinzwind

LOL

BUT

why not format them as 2 1.5Tb partitions?

oh and who upvoted me just now? :-)

kos

@Rinzwind You're welcome ;)

David Cole - Grammar Police

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit downloading as we spak

speak

Rinzwind

@kos there :-)

user139252

10:29 PM

@DavidCole-GrammarPolice you have a 64 bit key, yes?

user136984

Why is there so much swearing at the end of this song? :D

user136984

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user139252

Because it's Iron Maiden?

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