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8:02 AM
Aaargh, I was calculating wrong -70 here per saldo! @Rinzwind @ByteCommander @A.B. :(
...Also lost a lot due to day cap...
 
:\
 
good
 
Not to get my rep back (really), but what about this: meta.askubuntu.com/questions/15036/…
 
kos
@A.B. I forgot my tox password... Making a new profile I think? Or can I recover it?
 
8:17 AM
@kos I think no.
 
kos
@A.B. Ok, then I'm making a new one. Weird, I almost never forgot a password.
 
KeePassX =)
 
kos
@A.B. I guess. :(
Btw me too, but I only lost 35
9 hours ago, by kos
user image
 
@kos yes well Jacob and me hit 200 on the day so stopped caring about more rep :=D
1
Q: How to check if an Ubuntu installation has been upgraded from previous versions

SolkoIs there a way or maybe even a command to check out if the installation has been upgraded from previous versions? I have some servers that I know have been upgraded from for instance 8.04 to 12.04 and are having issues to be upgraded to 14.04 and would like to find out if the problem with these m...

anyone got a better idea than what I posted? :D
 
kos
@Rinzwind dist-upgrade logs?
 
8:25 AM
0
A: How to check if an Ubuntu installation has been upgraded from previous versions

A.B.Not water-proof but another possibility, if the entry was not removed: $ grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-GNOME 15.10 _Wily Werewolf_ - Release amd64 (20151021)]/ wily main multiverse restricted universe

 
@kos tx added it :-)
 
2
Q: User removed versus reputation cap

Jacob VlijmDutch people are known to be always calculating.... Yesterday, two things happened to me at the same time: I hit the daily quote, actually passed it, which "zeroed" the effect of a number of votes. A user was removed: -70 If these things happen at the same time (on the same day), actually th...

 
I don't really understand what this user wants from my Python script... Does anybody of you understand what he wants exactly?
I guess I spoke too soon. I tested it with a very simple, three file (jpgs) directory and it worked. So I ran it on one of my massive photo archives and discovered that if it finds duplicate files of different names in the same directory, it lists only one of them. If they are in different directories, it lists both. Any chance of fixing that? I can work around it, but it's a pain. Thanks. — Nobody Atall 11 hours ago
 
@ByteCommander Btw, that's my Tox at work.
 
8:47 AM
-2
Q: Does anybody know how to choose a juicer?

Alex RoyI'm looking for a juicer. To be honest, cooking is not my hobby and I hate cooking! As I understood, this appliance will save my time o kitchen. Can you, please, where I can find some useful information and can choose the best one for me? Thank you in advance for help!

Wthell?
 
@blade19899 stop nagging and just answer the question :)
 
@JacobVlijm It is just gonna get deleted. Got work to do. Well actually not that much
Manager said on my first day, Monday, here are two task, dead line is Friday, come Friday I had 10 tasks finished.
Awh Yeah
> User was Removed
wthell?
Ow wait
- 35 here.
 
9:09 AM
0
Q: display lines with not more than 4 words in the second column

SnowbellI have a symbol table of the form M07UP49A0870I422.wav <s> haraa keelaa <bn> </s> M07UP49A0870I423.wav <s> <horn> jau <babble> </s> M07UP49A0861C86105.wav <s> waa khaada aadi kaa upayoga laabhadaayaka paaya gayaa hai </s> M07UP49A0861C86106.wav <s> aadi kisaan apnee stara para bhii ta...

 
kos
9:26 AM
@muru Can you fix my rep also? meta.askubuntu.com/a/15038/380067
 
0_0
@kos I've had that happened. It seriously seriously sucked.
 
kos
@JourneymanGeek Yeah, not only you don't get what you deserve, but you can't even use it to balance a later loss :|
 
yeah
and I'm angling for a badge
 
kos
It sucks, but I think I've read something on Meta.SE, let me see if I can find it again
@JourneymanGeek Legendary? I think that still counts for that one
 
9:41 AM
oh?
that would be nice
 
@muru want to edit that into the answer? askubuntu.com/questions/732334/… I have nothing specific in that file on my machine :X
@kos 96/150 for me :=)
 
kos
I think that as soon as you reach 200 the counter is increased, or that's what I remember having noticed...
@Rinzwind 18. -.-
 
I need a test: dig vmware.com
@kos =) ^^^^
 
kos
@A.B. It's hanging...
 
cool =\
 
kos
9:47 AM
% dig vmware.com

; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-11ubuntu1.2-Ubuntu <<>> vmware.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
@A.B. ^^
 
VMware is down
 
kos
No updates :(
 
Bad news for opera users:
> "Opera Software revealed yesterday that a proposal to buy the company has been made by a Chinese consortium, and they are most likely going to accept it. The company is now trying to convince the community that it's a good thing." - Softpedia, Opera Vows to Remain the Same After Chinese Buyout
 
@kos aka
23
Q: What if I hit the daily rep cap and THEN get downvoted?

Armen TsirunyanIf I hit the daily rep cap (with a great overhead, say 40 upvotes for answers, which would translate to 400 rep) and THEN get one downvote, does it still count that I hit the daily rep cap that day?

or
13
Q: downvote after hitting rep limit

Foo BahLet's suppose you exceed the reputation limit (you would have received 210 rep if the limit werent there) . Then, before the next day, someone downvotes one of your responses. Then your limits are: BEFORE DOWNVOTE 200 (210 w/o limit) AFTER DOWNVOTE 198 (208 w/o limit) Shou...

 
kos
@muru I remembered having read something! Thanks. That sucks.
 
9:59 AM
@kos It really is an incorrect way of calculating!
 
kos
@JacobVlijm Yes it is. :(
 
...And should be easy to fix for future cases...
 
kos
Problem is they probably count the variation once, "truncating" it to the limit if necessary and storing the count somewhere in order to be displayed faster / with little overhead. Makes sense because otherwise they would have to recalculate the reputation each time the reputation has to be displayed. Maybe triggering a recalculation would fix that?
 
@blade19899 I wont miss them :=D
 
10:15 AM
Just got an awesome error message at work! xD
virt-manager showed me that when I tried to delete the virtual disk image of a coworker after having copied it...
 
10:40 AM
lol
@blade19899 opera kinda died (in spirt) a long time ago
 
user136984
VTC this, this, this, and this EOL question.
 
kos
@ParanoidPanda You hate EOL questions, don't you? :D
 
user136984
@kos: Yes, but they allow me to get a kick out of life when VTCing them! >:D
 
11:04 AM
@JourneymanGeek Tried out Opera that one time, it felt WAY to bloated. The Opera features List is longer then the entire gnome 3/apps feature removal list.
Atleast thats how it felt to me
 
user136984
11:25 AM
Delete/Flag this NAA.
 
12:26 PM
@blade19899 old opera or chromium opera?
Old opera was rediculously light and fast, despite having a buttload of features
 
@JourneymanGeek I didn't even know, that there is such a thing as chromium opera
Bitcoin users, tremble in fear:
> "Three researchers have published a paper that details a new method of cracking Bitcoin "brain wallet passwords," which is 2.5 times speedier than previous techniques and incredibly cheap to perform." - Softpedia, Researchers Discover a Cheap Method of Breaking Bitcoin Wallet Passwords
 
 
2 hours later…
2:11 PM
How do I automatically add a cronjob? Making an automated script...
 
@blade19899 typically you don't. askubuntu.com/questions/58575/add-lines-to-cron-from-script looks plausible tho
 
@JourneymanGeek Lol just created something similar xD
> echo "0 4 * * * /home/scripts/backup.sh" | crontab
It worked
 
2:49 PM
0
Q: How to send output from one terminal to another without making any new pipe or file

edward torvaldsI am just fooling around on my terminal (Gnome terminal). I was wondering is there a way to send output of one terminal to another without having to make a new file or pipe.

 
@NathanOsman publicly enableable, or still admin-only activation? 'Cause last I checked that information, it was still admin-activation-only
 
2
A: Linux pseudo-terminals: executing string sent from one terminal in another

duskwuffNo; terminals don't execute commands. They're just channels for data. You can sort of run a command and attach it to another terminal like this, though: ls </dev/pts/2 >/dev/pts/2 2>/dev/pts/2 It won't behave exactly like you ran it from that terminal, though, as it won't have that device set...

 
kos
@edwardtorvalds You can redirect the output to /proc/$PID/fd/1, where $PID is the PID of the shell running in the other terminal.
 
3:11 PM
@kos why fd/0 and fd/1 both works ?
 
@JourneymanGeek I need you to do some chat message deletion and cleanup
because Launchpad wants something not broadcasted to the world
and I don't see the Ask Ubuntu mods around
unless they're hiding
@NathanOsman nuke that starred post - LP doesn't want that data world-available yet
at least, I think
 
Antique Debian user:
0
Q: Make vim version 7 edit xml files

vicoI'm using old linux an vim version 7.1.314. I would like to edit eclipse .cproject file that build using XML syntax. Currently vim shows not colored information. I found vim plugin that I hope wil solve my problem xml.vim . I hve done evrything as described in installation manual: ln -s xml.vim...

 
kos
@edwardtorvalds Cause they both represent the same pseudo-terminal:
% readlink /proc/32679/fd/0
/dev/pts/3
% readlink /proc/32679/fd/1
/dev/pts/3
 
kos
3:39 PM
@edwardtorvalds Why the cat here? unix.stackexchange.com/a/261546/114435, there's no need for cat, the terminal prints whatever you output to it (namely /dev/pts/X) directly.
 
Lol
His question was put on hold: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/261393/…
 
3:58 PM
@JacobVlijm 200 :=)
 
user139252
4:09 PM
@Kos I believe the cat was just to show that there was nothing currently in the output of the device file.
 
@TheBrownOne o/
 
user139252
\o
 
0
Q: What to do about disingenuous edit?

ArronicalThis question has an edit pending review, by the OP, to change the operating system and tag from ElementaryOS to Ubuntu 15.04. I'm assuming the OP has done this so he'll get an answer, despite EOS being off topic (and 15.04 also being EOL). I wasn't sure how to review his edit, on the one hand I...

 
user136984
Ooh! The Ubuntu website has a new Ubuntu flavours page!
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kos
@TheBrownOne That's a terminal driver though, I guess output is always flushed immediately?
Also if you can type cat (without issuing the command) that means nothing was buffered: if it was would have been printed before cat.
 
4:36 PM
greetings
 
\o
 
@NathanOsman the 2buntu app
 
user136984
VTC this, this, and this EOL question.
 
@blade19899 bitcoin is dead, can no longer even process transactions - and they now have charge backs...
plus any bitcoin i had went down with gox
 
4:52 PM
@ParanoidPanda Ubuntu Touch 15.04 is no EoL
 
@Seth really?
 
UT has very different release schedules..
it's confusing.
This is why instead of trying to CLOSE ALL TEH THINGS I would prefer if people would try to find ways to solve problems instead..
 
user136984
@Seth: Why do they have a different release schedule? That is ridiculous and completely confusing!
 
user136984
Are they never going to give them the same one?
 
user136984
And is the UT 15.04 not the same as the desktop one?
 
5:00 PM
@ParanoidPanda because it is an entirely different product with different goals, different developers and different everything?
 
@Rinzwind you win! (140 'till now....)
 
user136984
@Seth: Well, I didn't know that... I thought it was just the Ubuntu 15.04 but with a special development team which is just a section of the other which deals with phones...
 
user136984
So how can I get hold of the release schedule?
 
um. Phone OS != desktop OS.
They're trying to make them really really close but it will be a while before they are completely the same, if ever.
@ParanoidPanda I have no idea. Try Googling it.
@JacobVlijm you racing Rinz? That rarely goes well, just ask Luis :D ;p
 
@Seth I got the impression, he was just letting me have the illusion for an hour or so ;)
 
5:05 PM
xD
I'm still trying to just make the first page of the rep leagues..
lol I did not expect that swap partitioning answer to take off and get 7 comments
 
@Seth you have far more important qualities then us, poor compulsive rep hunters :)
 
@kos thanks, removed cat.
 
5:30 PM
@kos I was thinking fd/0 would be file descriptor for input and fd/1 would be output file descriptor of that process, so they should be different, right?
 
user139252
@Zacharee1 @dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Your sites are now under the correct permissions of 755 with owner www-data. However, I have added you each to the www-data group so that you can still modify things.
 
I am able to post due to a surprising response to a simple question I asked 3 years ago, Back then my understanding and navigational abilities of any user interface on any and all sites and systems was basically null. @Seth
 
um. OK? I'm not sure I understand why you are pinging me.
 
user139252
I think she wants to want to know what can be done so that she can be able to post again.
 
@TheBrownOne She can post..
 
5:35 PM
"@Seth you have far more important qualities then us, poor compulsive rep hunters :)"
 
user139252
Ah, I read that as "unable to post"
 
There are no blocks on her account that I can see.
@JenniferBledsoe ohhhh. I see :)
 
user139252
My bad :p
 
I am going to watch read and learn'
 
kos
@edwardtorvalds No, because the shell's STDIN and STDOUT (and STDERR for that matter) are connected to the pseudo-terminal. Try running a process in one terminal using a redirection (say yes >/dev/null), check its PID in another terminal and then run readlink /proc/$PID/fd/1: you'll see that the output will be /dev/null, since that process' STDOUT is /dev/null.
 
5:36 PM
@seth blocks?
 
People that post lots of bad questions and answers are eventually blocked by the system. At first I thought you were asking how to get out of one (misread "I can post" for "I can't post") :)
 
Has anyone voted to close with a custom reason recently?
I want to test what the fix for this looks like:
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Q: Close (other) reasons are duplicated for each one someone's submitted

RGrahamThere appears to be duplicate (Other) reasons showing on the close dialog in the Android App. Not sure if this is because someone has already registered a Close Vote with a custom comment: Device: Nexus 5 Offending Question: Improve a PHP developer profile having 2.5 year experience

 
user136984
Hey, did you guys hear? 14.04.4 is being released soon!
 
user136984
Why do only LTSs get the .xs at the end?
 
user136984
I guess the others aren't non-EOL for enough time...
 
user136984
5:54 PM
@kos: Do you use Tox by the way? :)
 
kos
@ParanoidPanda I lost my password... I'm still trying to figure out if I can recover it. Do you know if it's possible?
 
user136984
@kos: Well, you could try and remember your password...
 
user136984
If it's an encrypted profile though, without the password, there's no recovery...
 
user136984
Because, you know, all your Tox data is encrypted...
 
kos
@ParanoidPanda Yeah just realized that from the messages on the console.
 
user136984
5:57 PM
If you definitely can't think of it, just make a new account, I had to do that once...
 
kos
@ParanoidPanda You're so helpful -.-
:)
I'll try to remember it or make a new profile.
 
user136984
:D
 
kos
@ParanoidPanda I know it's the MD5 sum of a keyword, but I can't remember the keyword.
I'll just create a new profile. AB changed his and I have Fabby's stored in my mailbox, no one I know outside of here uses it, so....
Yes! I've remembered it! :D
 
user136984
@kos: Oh good! :D
 
kos
@A.B. Remembered my tox password, sent you a request.
@ParanoidPanda Do you want to write my ID?
 
user136984
6:07 PM
@kos: Sure! :)
 
kos
@ParanoidPanda Ready?
 
user136984
Yep
 
user136984
@kos: Got it! You got my request? :)
 
kos
@ParanoidPanda Yep, accepted!
 
user136984
:)
 
kos
6:09 PM
I'm almost never online though, be aware :)
 
Moral dilemma : Should I undel my answer or not ? askubuntu.com/q/732513/295286
 
6:27 PM
If you upvote me 650 times, I'll take a look :p
 
And I will suspend you both ;)
 
Nu
 
Flagged before @Seth could delete :p
 
kos
And this is spam -> askubuntu.com/a/732437/380067.
 
6:40 PM
@Zacharee1 if I vote you 650 times , the system will automatically drop those upgoats anyway , then Seth will come over and block us :)
Unless he votes up 650 times . . . .not consecutively of course :)
0xCAFEBABE !
 hexdump -C *.class | head -n1
00000000  ca fe ba be 00 00 00 33  00 24 0a 00 07 00 12 08  |.......3.$......|
 
kos
@Serg Lol, and what it becomes is the leet for "cafe dude".
 
@kos hehe, how it would be converted to leet-speak ? there's no hex number u
 
kos
@Serg Right, I mean, if you spoke CAFED00D it would sound similar, wouldn't it?
 
@kos yeah, that would work . . . In fact, some developers may already be using that . . . .
$ hexdump -C *.py | head -n1
00000000  23 21 2f 75 73 72 2f 62  69 6e 2f 65 6e 76 20 70  |#!/usr/bin/env p|
and of course, our favorite 0x2321 , the #! line
 
6:56 PM
@DavidCole @waltinator @DavidFoerster have a look at this revision history: askubuntu.com/posts/732175/revisions
 
@Serg I could look at it quickly :p
 
@Zacharee1 at my answer ? No you wouldn't, because it's deleted, hence invisible :) Only high rep users can see deleted answers, so Seth and kos can
find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -I {} hexdump {}  | head -n1
0000000 6568 6c6c 0a6f 6568 6c6c 206f 6f77 6c72
xargs: hexdump: terminated by signal 13
What the heck is signal 13 ?
 
user139252
Signal 13 means something is written to a pipe where nothing is read from anymore
 
user139252
4
A: xargs: ls: terminated by signal 13

planetmakerI ran across a similar issue and found this thread on search for an answer: Signal 13 means something is written to a pipe where nothing is read from anymore (e.g. see http://people.cs.pitt.edu/~alanjawi/cs449/code/shell/UnixSignals.htm ). The point here is that the ls command as executed by xa...

 
I see . . . Different approach needed
 
7:16 PM
@Serg if you upvoted me 650 times, I'd have over 10k rep. I'd be able to look at the planswer before the voting was retracted :p
 
@muru Thanks for drawing my attention to this. After I educated myself on what KDE Plasma actually is, I understand and won't sign off on the removal of those tags on that question any longer.
 
woot! 30 days of free pluralsight!
 
7:33 PM
ABADBABE 	"A bad babe", Used by Apple as the "Boot Zero Block" magic number
Haha
BADC0FFEE0DDF00D 	"Bad coffee odd food", Used on IBM RS/6000 64-bit systems to indicate uninitialized CPU registers
 
kos
Can someone post the output sudo ls -lR ~/.dbus on their machine? I may have some wrong permissions set somewhere.
 
ls -lR ~/.dbus
ls: cannot open directory /home/xieerqi/.dbus: Permission denied
 
➜  ~  ls -lR ~/.dbus
/home/seth/.dbus:
total 4
drwx------ 2 seth seth 4096 Sep 23 11:11 session-bus

/home/seth/.dbus/session-bus:
total 4
-rw-rw-r-- 1 seth seth 464 Nov 14 09:14 0d4fa76e846043e4b54b69c33c31de52-0
 
/home/terrance/.dbus:
total 4
drwx------ 2 root root 4096 Feb 8 10:49 session-bus

/home/terrance/.dbus/session-bus:
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 466 Feb 8 14:38 ab4dbea56181762e5bdeeafc56b11586-0
 
well that's 3 different answers xD
 
7:36 PM
skolodya@ubuntu:$ stat ~/.dbus
  File: ‘/home/xieerqi/.dbus’
  Size: 4096      	Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   directory
Device: 801h/2049d	Inode: 6172075     Links: 3
Access: (0700/drwx------)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2015-08-15 15:54:53.343963714 -0600
Modify: 2015-08-15 15:54:53.343963714 -0600
Change: 2015-08-15 15:54:53.343963714 -0600
 Birth: -
Well permissions seem to match . . . root root ownership . . .
 
kos
@Seth @Terrance @Serg Thanks guys!
 
@kos No problem! =)
 
@seth @terrance OK so who messed up ? And what the ownership of .dbus should be ?
 
I'm going to guess mine is correct, since most stuff in ~ shouldn't be owned by root.
but I'm not 100% sure.
 
5
A: .dbus folder in home folder belongs root

anxThe reason for these being created with root ownership in the first place is usually the way sudo preserves some user environment. ls: cannot access .gvfs: Permission denied That folder .dbus and .cache with all it contents is supposed to be owned by the user whom the home directory belongs to. ...

 
7:38 PM
@Serg Mine was just installed cleanly on Feb 2
 
So that's sudo thing
 
kos
@Seth I too have everything owned by root, and in fact that's what I'm thinking it shouldn't be.
 
From what I can see out there, ~/.dbus should be owned by root
 
@kos well according to answer posted , it's going to become root owned when you use sudo
@Seth have you sudoed today ?
 
kos
@Serg Yep, me @Serg and @Terrance have the wrong ownership / permissions.
 
7:42 PM
no no @Serg, it doesn't happen just from using sudo.
and yes, I have used sudo today. ~10 times iirc.
sudo can cause it because of the way it preserves the environment.
so if you always use sudo correctly this won't happen.
 
kos
Nevermind, thought it was for me.
 
@kos always_set_home
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A: How is sudo set to not change $HOME in Ubuntu and how to disable this behavior?

GillesSudo has many compile-time configuration options. You can list the settings in your version with sudo -V. One of the differences between the configuration in Debian wheezy and in Ubuntu 12.04 is that the HOME environment variable is preserved in Ubuntu but not in Debian; both distributions erase ...

Or, in my case, I keep a sudo -i session running just in case.
 
kos
@muru Sounds like I should setup that.
 
@kos care to lend some support to bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/889936?
 
From Russia With Love:
> "In an unexpected turn of events, it would appear that the Russian government is planning on moving all of their computers and IT infrastructure to a Linux kernel-based operating system, also known as GNU/Linux distribution." - Softpedia, Russia Plans to Move to Linux
 
@blade19899 Another step in Linus' evil plan to take over the world!
 
kos
@muru Sure, however I don't seem to have that section on man sudo.
 
@Seth Hope they don't notice. A free and Open Source world is too much of deliciously evil plan to fail.
 
@kos Heh. Their way of invalidating the bug is to patch the manpage instead of patching sudo.
 
I should have been studying but instead i had fun with this : askubuntu.com/a/732515/295286
@Zacharee1 go ahead and look ^
 
kos
7:54 PM
@muru Exactly. I'd expect something called env_reset to set HOME to the new user.
 
What bothers me more is Russia injecting malware into Linux under the veil of legitimate contribution. Say what you say, but Russia is a second Nazi Germany . . . under cover
 

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