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kos

6:00 PM

@Seth Nah, it's not that bad. :). Variable names I'll admit are a bit of a pain though.

user136984

VTC this as unclear.

kos

(and regexes if that's not you cup of tea I imagine)

user136984

VTC this primarily opinion-based question as well.

user136984

How many downvotes does a user have to get before the system bans them from posting for a while or gives them that warning?

user136984

I thought I saw something on that in the Help section, but I can't seem to find it any more...

Seth

6:09 PM

no one knows.

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne have you tried this:support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/…

user139252

@Zacharee1 Page Rules are a CloudFlare thing

user139252

I'm trying to write a script that purges my system of users who haven't logged in for over 90 days...

Jacob Vlijm

@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Excellent idea:) I will do that!

Jacob Vlijm

6:38 PM

@Rinzwind we're handicapped for today :) Stuck at 200...

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne second thing there

user139252

@Zacharee1 Going to apply that rule now

user139252

Alright, applied.

user139252

6:53 PM

@dn-ʞɔɐqɹW Full SSL on your domain, by the way.

user136984

When you're added to a team which manages packages, what exactly are you meant to do?

user136984

I don't want to ask them or they might kick me out... :P

user136984

I'm not too sure why they added me in the first place... :D

Seth

that's entirely dependent on the team panda... every team is different.

user139252

@ParanoidPanda Just say "Hey! Thanks for the invite! What would you guys need me to do so that I can contribute as effectively as possible?"

user136984

7:04 PM

@TheBrownOne: Ok, well, I guess I could try that... There's no point in me just sitting around and doing nothing... And it's also quite a major team so they might notice if I'm doing nothing...

Rinzwind

@JacobVlijm I know :(

user139252

Broke my system... be back soon

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

7:42 PM

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Q: How to find what causes my notebook to crash?

I have a new notebook and it crashes frequently. $ uname -a Linux bpgergo-notebook 4.2.0-27-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 22 04:49:08 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux $ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 15.10 Release: 15.10 Co...

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Q: How to share Alsa devices between users?

I lost the ability to share Alsa sound between users even if only one is logged in. According to this guide ConsoleKit integration should be used instead direct ownership of the device. After I removed users from audio group as advised, normal users cannot play sounds but root can. For example,...

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Serg

@A.B. @Rinzwind German translation service needed askubuntu.com/q/732160/295286

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne it works! Thanks!

Jacob Vlijm

@Serg I know we live near Germany, but @Rinzwind is not German...

user139252

@JacobVlijm You're good at Python! If I post a paste of some introductory documentation, could you review it and make sure it makes sense/is accurate?

Jacob Vlijm

I'd love to, I hope I can live up to the honour. I mostly understand what I do :)

user139252

7:56 PM

Here it is.

user139252

I was told by a couple of students that they tried my challenges, but they didn't make enough sense for complete beginners.

Jacob Vlijm

@TheBrownOne Huh? This is as readable as it gets, seems perfect to me!

user139252

Alright, hopefully it will clear up some things for the newer students as I continue to write it, then.

user139252

Lunch time, going to go and get food!

user139252

Thank you @JacobVlijm

Jacob Vlijm

8:02 PM

@TheBrownOne have a nice lunch!

Serg

@JacobVlijm i remember Rinz saying german is quite easy for him. In any case, it's same as me volunteering to translate a question in Chinese, because i speak some

user139252

8:22 PM

Free Chipotle is the best Chipotle.

Nathan Osman

@Seth it's up now: chocolatey.org/packages/nitroshare

user139252

@NathanOsman I never knew about Chocolatey!

Serg

@TheBrownOne Russians say , even vinegar tastes sweet when it's free

user139252

I don't like that my work knows how to stop me from connecting to my VPN :(

user139252

I just want to read commitstrip on my lunch :(

Seth

8:43 PM

@NathanOsman yay!

@TheBrownOne :D

user139252

So, I'm not sure how they're blocking my VPN access... I've tried TCP and UDP on several different ports with no luck, but I know they didn't just black-list the domain because I can still visit my web-pages.

user139252

Got it back :D

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

9:30 PM

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Q: Reformatting a secondary hard drive while keeping some files

I'm almost certain that I'm in a deadlock here. Just recently, my Synology NAS died. So I decided to configure an Ubuntu server instead on an old computer I had laying around. Ubuntu is now installed on sda. I popped in the 1TB Synology drive (sdb) and with mdadm I'm able to mount and access my...

ubuntu partition

kos

9:40 PM

moreutils is one of the most useful not-installed-by-default packages I know of. I'd really like it to be included in the default installation, although it probably wouldn't be too useful to the "main" audience of Ubuntu.

user136984

I think I'm finally getting rid of this bug...

user136984

Anyway...

user136984

Goodnight for now! :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to fix the Ubuntu Linux 15.10 Files GUI manager , /usr/bin/xdg-open , flickers on and off

I recently installed Ubuntu Linux 15.10 on a Lenovo desktop.After a mysterious crash last night while testing point and click of an Mono-.NET 4.5 C# executable which DLLImport's an C++ shared object, the Files GUI manager , /usr/bin/xdg-open , flickers on and off . I removed the package xdg-ut...

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kos

9:56 PM

@Seth This maybe fits as a comment on terdon's answer on the same question: askubuntu.com/a/732208/380067

Seth

@kos done

kos

@Seth Thanks

Serg

10:15 PM

I cannot upgoat either the question or terdon's answer, wtf?

Seth

?

Terrance

But I can, and did! :P

hbdgaf

10:33 PM

@kos someone named a utility pee. although, the name sort of does make sense...

user139252

Pee?

hbdgaf

"pee: tee standard input to pipes"

user139252

Ah.

user139252

It does make sense.

user139252

I should write a text book!

kos

10:39 PM

@hbdgaf @TheBrownOne Undeniably a logical way of mixing tee and pipe (though tpipe also comes to mind)

hbdgaf

@TheBrownOne raw_input gives you not found on python3, but input() still works... if you're writing a textbook.

user139252

@hbdgaf That example was for the projects on my site, which are based on Python 2.6

user139252

I know that raw_input was changed in Python3

user139252

Just like print was changed to print().

user139252

If I were to write an actual text-book, I would specify those differences :P

kos

10:43 PM

@Serg @Terrance Hey, just got a badge for that. \o/

Seth

print() still gets me. Plain print was too hard wired.

user139252

Yeah, it made no sense to turn it into a function like that.

Terrance

@kos Very nice! =)

hbdgaf

it makes sense to me. if you use a python3 shell more instead of running scriptlets you saved to test... it gets more automatic, because you get punished immediately instead of after a minute.

Seth

it makes sense, I'm just still not used to it.

kos

10:46 PM

@Terrance :)

The good thing with enforcing to use a function is it makes the code more readable IMO.

Seth

and consistent.

Terrance

@kos Your answer is similar to the one I answered before, but completely different. You explained it, and did it well. Mine was just how to do it, not the why like you answered. That's why you got my +1 my friend! =)

kos

@Seth Agreed.

@Terrance Which one?

Terrance

@kos Funny thing is, it is one of my highest voted answers. LOL askubuntu.com/a/650044/231142

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: I cannot open up my flash drive

I have a flash drive that has a storage space of 8GB. a mark of ASA MANHATTAN when i plug it in my computer, I get the following message: This location could not be displayed. Sorry, could not display all the contents of “disk”: Error when getting information for file '/media/lahcene/disk/√<...

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Terrance

10:52 PM

@kos you even commented on it. =)

kos

@Terrance Ah, but that's "ancient" stuff! Also I got confused because I never answered a question like that (that I remember), what you voted on before was terdon's answer and my question ;)

Terrance

@kos Yes, that is ancient stuff. But for some reason, I always seem to think it was yesterday that I wrote it. =) Yes, that is exactly what I voted on for you! =)

kos

@Terrance Top answers are different :) Sometimes I get comments on old answers and reading them I barely recall even having written them :)

Serg

@kos badge for what ?

kos

@Serg "Nice Question"

Serg

11:03 PM

Oh, perfect

kos

\o/

user139252

@Zacharee1 Make sure you SSH in at least once every 60 days... I'm still working on compound conditions in bash

Terrance

@kos Good point! I am in the same boat. Or when I get an upgoat on an old answer I totally forgot I wrote, then realized, it wasn't written very well. =)

user139252

What's the equivalent of if this and that in bash?

kos

@Terrance Ikr? :D

user139252

11:04 PM

Right now I've got:

user139252

[ $(( (now - last_login) / 86400 )) -ge 60 ]

Terrance

@kos Yep! =)

user139252

I also need to check if a variable is not equal to a string...

kos

@TheBrownOne This and that? then / else?

user139252

@Kos I need two conditions to be true to continue

kos

11:06 PM

@TheBrownOne String comparison is either = or == for equality and != for difference

@TheBrownOne You can use either && or -a

user139252

Alright... I think I've got this, then...

user139252

[ $(( (now - last_login) / 86400 )) -ge 60 ] && [ "$user" != "fabby" ] && [ "$user" != "Zacharee" ] && deluser --remove-home $user

user139252

:D

Terrance

@kos Ah, yes, you are right. Silly me, I just went back and read what you wrote. It was your question. Duh! My bad. =)

kos

@TheBrownOne No, sorry, && is only for chaining multiple tests. Like [ 1 ] && [ 1 ], if you want to use a single test use -a: [ 1 -a 1 ]

user139252

11:10 PM

I just chained multiple tests :P

kos

@Terrance Yup. :)

@TheBrownOne Seems like that could be done better. :D What are you up to?

I mean no, ok, it's clear. cron job?

user139252

@Kos Scanning WTMP, getting the last log-in date for each user defined in /etc/passwd between the UUIDs defined in /etc/login.defs, if it's more than 60 days, remove that user from the system, but only if it's not fabby or zacharee

user139252

Yeah, cronjob.

muru

@TheBrownOne If you use (( )), use it for tests too: (( ((now - last_login)/64000) > 60 )) && [ ...

Terrance

@kos Well, we live and learn! I think I need new glasses. LOL =)

kos

11:17 PM

@Terrance I've done worse mistakes, I'm sure. :D

user139252

@muru I thought you had to use -ge for integer comparisons?

muru

@TheBrownOne (( )) can do comparisons and equality tests.

And with the normal >, <, >=, etc. operators

user139252

Neat! I'm really trying to get better with bash and rely less on Python

kos

Eeek!

muru

@TheBrownOne See wiki.bash-hackers.org/syntax/arith_expr#assignment

kos

11:19 PM

muru

@kos happened to me too just now. A -65.

user139252

@muru So, I will have to remove the square braces since the (()) will take care of matching the condition?

kos

@muru :(

Serg

Yeah, I've had that too. Sucks

muru

@TheBrownOne yep.

kos

11:21 PM

No way to know who was removed right?

Serg

It's like, user removed, buty answer is still there, right ?

muru

Avoid [ ] like the plague if you can. Use [[ ]] and (( )).

Serg

@muru why ? Isnt single brackets a posix standard ?

Terrance

I am going to agree with muru. I have had stuff fail so many times with [ ].

muru

@Serg yes, and a pain to use. If you use bash, why not take advantage of its features?

Zacharee1

11:22 PM

@kos You had a secret admirer, and that secret admirer left :/

muru

Or never use bash and always give /bin/sh as your shebang.

user139252

@Zacharee1 Nevermind that last ping, I fixed my cleanup script to not delete your user.

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne Thanks :)

Fixed my site's z-index stuff so now the navbar actually goes behind the modal backdrop

kos

@Serg Content isn't deleted under any circumnstance AFAIK

user139252

This is my whole script. See anything else that can be improved?

Seth

11:24 PM

I lost 15 too.

@kos nope :/

Zacharee1

@Seth then you'd know the user, wouldn't you? :

Seth

I do not know who it is and I have no way of finding out either.

Zacharee1

@Seth wouldn't -15 mean an accepted answer, or is it an answer and question?

Seth

@Zacharee1 oh, it was an answer and a question.

kos

@Zacharee1 Secret admirer? I don't know what would happen to people attending the command-line / bash / etc tags if I were to leave (and I guess it would be the same the other way around)

Zacharee1

11:27 PM

:P

kos

@Seth :(

muru

@TheBrownOne Use --time-format iso with last. Easier to handle than -F's output

$ last --time-format iso -Rn1 $USER
muru  pts/6        2016-02-09T12:01:13+0530 - 2016-02-09T13:07:21+0530  (01:06)

wtmp begins Tue Oct 27 01:40:09 2015
$ last -F -Rn1 $USER
muru  pts/6        Tue Feb  9 12:01:13 2016 - Tue Feb  9 13:07:21 2016  (01:06)

The time columns get combined to one standard-format column

Serg

@muru true enough, but that still applies to bash only. If you work on some god-forsaken server, which has some other shell, [] is probably the better option, right ? am I right ?

muru

@Serg That's why I said "if you can". (And not only to bash, it came from ksh, and zsh supports it too.)

If you're really on some god-forsaken server, you'll be using csh.

Then forget POSIX altogether.

kos

@TheBrownOne egrep is deprecated. Use grep -E

Serg

11:32 PM

lol , i hope not, never ever, no csh

muru

@TheBrownOne Awk can handle time (see gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/html_node/Time-Functions.html) - you probably don't need to use date at all there.

Seth

@muru Is there even a mainstream distro that ships csh?

(obviously "mainstream" excludes "god forsaken" most of the time..)

Zacharee1

YT video in my feed" "Hidden Google Secrets"

muru

@Seth not that I know of. That's the sort of question Stephane Chazelas on U&L can answer.

Zacharee1

I'm not so sure, but isn't hidden generally implied by secrecy?

Whoo!

Serg

11:38 PM

@SEth em . . . i think i've heard either gentoo or centos. . . not sure . . . google to the rescue

Zacharee1

You can now dismiss the modals on my website using ESC

Serg

@Seth

muru

@Serg tcsh, not csh. Ubuntu has it too.

Serg

And from what I remember , my university had a RHEL server, they used tcsh too as interactive shell

@muru eh, true, but it doesn't ship with Ubuntu by default

Zacharee1

Ubuntuby

That's a new one :p

muru

11:42 PM

@Serg CentOS doesn't either: centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=51129#p216904

Serg

@Zacharee1 sorry, my tr ' ' '' kicks in from time to time :p

muru

(that's the reply to the post in the screenshot)

Zacharee1

wat

Seth

CentOS uses bash too.

Zacharee1

google.com/…

user139252

11:42 PM

@Zacharee1 Did you incorporate <noscript> tags?

Seth

(iirc)

kos

@Zacharee1 We should compile a list.

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne still working on that. The slideshow works I believe, but modals are tricky. Some are somewhat done

@kos agreed

Serg

Hmmm , interesting . . . so RHEL and CentOS only use tcsh as interactive ? Why ?

Zacharee1

Ubantu
Ubntu
Ubunto
Ubontu
Ubunta
Unubtu
Obuntu
Obonto
Obunto

Serg

11:43 PM

I cringe when i see new users post Ubantu or Obonto

user139252

Abenti

Serg

it's like , do you even spell , bro ?

Terrance

@Serg I am going to cringe now too!

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne really? lol

user139252

Bnt

Zacharee1

11:44 PM

@Serg sometimes I think it's a typo. Then a realize that it's spelled Ubantu throughout the whole question

THE NAME IS RIGHT THERE IN THIS WEBSITE PEOPLE

3

kos

@Zacharee1 Ubunto always sounds the funniest to me for some reason.

Terrance

@Zacharee1 LOL

Zacharee1

@kos like a toe :p

Terrance

@kos I like that one too!

Zacharee1

I can see why teachers are bothered when students misspell words that are in the wordbank

Terrance

11:45 PM

Now I am really laughing at these names. Wipes tears from eyes

user139252

I just want to go home and play Ocarina of Time :(

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne Acironu if Tumi?

I might have done too much with that one

Terrance

@TheBrownOne That is one of my wife's favorite games ever! She played that on the GameCube till the disk could no longer read.

user139252

@Terrance the GameCube edition was lame!

user139252

It's so called "Master quest" :(

user139252

11:47 PM

N64 for the win.

Seth

@muru yeah. Stephane knows everything about shells it would seem xD

Terrance

@TheBrownOne I liked it on there too! :(

muru

@Zacharee1 I have heard people pronounce it that way.

user139252

@Terrance I'm glad your wife likes games, though :D

Terrance

But then again, I am not a gamer.

user139252

11:48 PM

My ex hated when I played games, even for just an hour a day

Journeyman Geek

@Serg OoooBoootooooo!

Terrance

@TheBrownOne I am too! Funny thing is, I was working for Packard Bell / NEC at the time I met her, and she disliked computers and the people I worked with. But she ended up with me. =)

Zacharee1

@JourneymanGeek Ubootu - that's a new one

user139252

@Terrance I'm glad!

Zacharee1

I actually pronounce it "OO-BUHN-TOO"

Easier to say then ooböntoo

user139252

11:51 PM

If anyone bothers to try and marry me again, I will tell him/her upfront what he/she is getting into :P

Zacharee1

:p

kos

@Zacharee1 You don't pronounce it like that -.-

Zacharee1

@kos IKIKIKIKIKIKIK

Terrance

2

A: How is Ubuntu pronounced?

It is pronounced oo-boon-too. https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu

Journeyman Geek

@Terrance packard bell? you monster

kos

11:51 PM

^^

Terrance

@JourneymanGeek Yep. I worked there from 1994 to 1997

Zacharee1

I don't like to pronounce it like that. I may be able to pronounce the German ü and ö, but I'm too lazy to use that skill for it :p

Journeyman Geek

@TheBrownOne heh, in my culture they still do arranged marriages. I probably should spring the "What do you think about having a server rack at home" question.

@Terrance was this the wierd years?

With the hugemongeous monitors with speakers built in, and corner PCs?

Zacharee1

@JourneymanGeek O_o

Terrance

@JourneymanGeek The speakers were removable then. :)

Journeyman Geek

11:53 PM

@Zacharee1 Yesh, some people still choose to have transgressive old ways. Just that matchmakers are websites now.

@Terrance Yup. you monster ;p

(I kid. I used to think they were cool. Granted I was in my early teens and my taste was clearly suspect)

kos

@Zacharee1 We Italians are lucky that the pronunciation as read in Italian is the same as in African and it matches by coincidence or we would have mistreat Ubuntu as well :D

Terrance

@JourneymanGeek Ah, I see.

user139252

@JourneymanGeek Are you for or against arranged marriages?

Journeyman Geek

@TheBrownOne I'm fine with it.

Terrance

@JourneymanGeek I still have their recovery cd's at home with Windows 95 on them that ran the Packard Bell Nagrivator (Navigator) on it.

Journeyman Geek

11:55 PM

@Terrance AKA bob 2.0? As I said... You monster

user139252

That's good. I know some people who moved here because they didn't agree with it. I was just curious because I've seen both sides.

Terrance

@JourneymanGeek LOL

Zacharee1

@kos Well I speak Spanish (somewhat :p), and knew how to pronounce Spanish when I started using Ubuntu

Terrance

Well, that is how long I have been in the computer industry being paid for working on them. ;)

Zacharee1

@TheBrownOne Well, if you're being forced into it and don't agree with the action, then maybe moving is a good thing. Just don't try to make everyone leave, so no one can have arranged marriages :p

Journeyman Geek

11:57 PM

@TheBrownOne I have a non existant romantic life. Its still a bit of a lottery - my brother's wife is a bit nutty, but plenty of folks have it working out. In a sense, to some it may be terrible, but I may prefer it to the alternatives ;p

Zacharee1

Looky looky: google.com/…

Journeyman Geek

and the modern arranged marriage is closer to speed dating ;p

user139252

That's good :p

user139252

I just lost faith in romance/marriage/what-not after my divorce last year... I've been on 3 dates since and they were all awful.

kos

@Zacharee1 Lol, I'm not too fine with the pronunciation in Italian (it closes the "u"s and stresses the "t" too much), but the Spanish one is overly funny! translate.google.it/?ie=UTF-8&hl=it&client=tw-ob#it/es/…

Zacharee1

11:59 PM

@kos that's so realistic...

XD

Terrance

I miss those days! =)

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