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12:14 AM
coughs
 
@ThomasWard you're funny
 
coughs
coffee is something everyone loves, or should love.
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ANYWAYS @Videonauth is right, let's drop this and move on
 
./coffee
make
sudo make install
@ThomasWard haha yeah
 
@Windows3.1 shhhh, don't start religious arguments here. I don't know how about you, but i like to get banned only on my own requests
 
we i just said that because it is a very touchy subject
 
12:17 AM
sigh
sigh
 
grabs a vacuum to clean the chat up
 
@Videonauth I understand. however there's a difference between a lighthearted reference to religion and preaching of religion too, my opinion
 
dumps dust all over the room
 
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@Windows3.1 don't confuse preaching with jokes
 
12:19 AM
@Serg yah
@ThomasWard may I give you just one slam without getting banned?
 
@Windows3.1 I'm not evil enough to ban the world for one tiny thing.
takes a bit more than one joke to make me ban the earth
 
lol
 
like insulting my mother, me, and my entire family all in one go
 
so what I notice is (no offense here) you get into something then immediately call it off, then get into it again then sternly call it off lol
now here comes the ban lol
 
@Windows3.1 I meant it as a joke. A while ago. Then I'm happy to admit I shouldn't have done something and clean things up. At least, once someone says they feel it to be touchy to them.
 
12:22 AM
@ThomasWard lol I know and I understand just observing ;)
@ThomasWard the frustrating thing sometimes is though that some people go crazy when an admin does something once they have to do it ten times lol
I have had an experience like that in ChaletOS forums
 
true statement. But that's human nature to some level
 
@ThomasWard yeah I agree
 
@Windows3.1 mods and admins are different terms
 
problem here is you have every mod on the SE network capable of smacking you vs. a small handful of mods.
@Serg "mods" here, "admins" on some other forum or discussion or questions/answers medium
in the sense of "Can they ban me" they both have the same connotation
 
@Serg a lot of people dont understand the difference
 
12:24 AM
just to state for me it is not necessarily touchy but it could be for others
 
@Videonauth :)
 
@Videonauth eh, only takes one to ask for it to be stopped, and there.
 
its simply a thing i try to avoid at all costs
:)
 
@Videonauth I can see that.
:D
 
@ThomasWard well, we're not a forum right ? And to some extend , admin implies more power than moderator
 
12:26 AM
@Serg to my eyes both admins and mods are people of the which 80% of them cant wait to ban people
 
someone should start funding my caffeine habits...
it's starting to get too expensive...
 
power often corrupts
 
@ThomasWard well i have coffee but i need moar PI's
 
@ThomasWard lol
 
12:29 AM
@Windows3.1 sure they both can ban people, but that's just one of the powers they can have, and typically admins have more powers than moderators, as in they can reset passwords and such. moderators usually don't have access to user's info of that level
 
@Serg I know that
@Serg if you know me, I HATE to ban people lol
unless they're just totally off the hook
 
@Windows3.1 I personally don't like banning people either, but I sort of follow 3 strikes rule. I work in a computer lab, and if someone doesn't listen to me, 3 warnings, and then I call supervisor
 
@Serg that's pretty much me too
 
The kids visited Santa today and the Sh** got real tonight, we have the best behaved kids in town...
 
@TheXed what happened ?
 
12:36 AM
Try to bypass Firewall 😄 #LOL #Geek #firewall https://t.co/gaku9Jo5qs
 
They sat on Santa's lap and gave him their list...
 
That sounds suspiciously calm . . . I'm afraid to ask what other kids were doing
 
@Serg you where able to recognize that, that was a elitebook from that picture? impressive!
 
@TheXed nope, i didn't recognize elitebook or anything like that . . . that's just my own thought, but i guess it coincides with whatever that picture was
 
12:43 AM
You know . . . I've sort of love-hate relationship with Windows. Mostly I try to like it, mostly I try to come to terms with it. But it's like having a girlfriend who's a perpetual kleptomaniac. Windows , I try to keep calm . . . but when it comes to simple things, like at least turning of the damn Cortana . . . or enabling response to ICMP echo ( which for some BLOODY reason is under Files and Sharing rules in firewall ) . . . well I just loose my sh!t then
How does ICMP echo have ANYTHING to do with Files and Sharing ? Why do you have option to turn off learning about a user ( which kind of implies Cortana ) if that option doesn't actually turn off SearchUI.exe and even as admin I cannot remove executable permission from that exe file ?
 
@Serg in my mind windows 7 is the worst windows period. worse than w10
 
@Windows3.1 Eh, at least Windows 7 had control panel. Windows 10 UI has these "Settings" which give little to no useful settings, while actual Control Panel is just hidden.
 
Ironically I'm just setting up Windows 8.1 on my laptop right now.
 
@Serg ????????????????????????????????????????????????? Windows 10 still has control panel
@WinEunuuchs2Unix windows 8.1 rocks!
other than it's NT core
 
@Windows3.1 read the last seven words in Serg's message
 
12:50 AM
@ThomasWard ?? it appears on corttana search
 
@Windows3.1 it's there, sure, it's just PITA to navigate to
 
@Windows3.1 yes, but "Hidden" as in not easy to get to by default
without a search or digging around
 
@Serg afaik you just search
 
@Windows3.1 Have no choice it is built into the motherboard / BIOS activation key, even though Dell tech had installed Windows 7 Ulitimate that can't be reactivated. Anyway need Windows to play games like Mass Effect 3.
 
I search for all the apps I want
or pin them to a menu
 
12:51 AM
Take for instance , Ubuntu with Unity desktop. Where are the settings ? Click gear icon indicator, click System Settings - that's it !
 
@Serg if I dont pin items to panel or to start menu then I search for them
 
"Windows 8.1: Designed to impress, destined to disappoint."
 
@Zacharee1 i'd only use windows 8.1 if it had better virus security and a unix core
 
so let me rephrase
 
@Zacharee1 hey Windows 8.1 is free on this laptop... all I care about right now :)
 
12:53 AM
"I'd only use Windows if it wasn't Windows"
 
Maybe it's just me,but Ubuntu doesn't pi$$ me off as much as windows . . . even if there are graphical bugs and issues, I know I can work around them . . . but with Windows, it's just . . . 20 minutes into it , and already tearing my hair off
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix windows 8.1 is free for anyone with r@1n ReLoader
 
I'm in Windows right now and I hate the way it sometimes just freaks out for no reason, and I don't have network access for 15 minutes.
 
@Serg I'll take ubuntu as long as it isn't with unity
 
Ubuntu likes to disconnect sometimes, but at least I can just reconnect
 
12:54 AM
@Zacharee1 Does it get the 169.254.x.x ip address for no reason ?
 
@Serg After installation Windows 8.1 updater spent 3 hours to search for updates until I found out it was a bug and needed to install a patch...haha
 
@Zacharee1 on my 2 in one convertible fedora works seamlessly just like windows doew
*does
@WinEunuuchs2Unix yes, windows 8.1 sux for updates that's tru
 
@Serg not yet...
 
@Zacharee1 After I got the new router , my mom's Win 10 laptop randomly gets that ip address and basically no internet . . .
 
@Windows3.1 as long as Windows 8.1 doesn't install Windows 10 (which it hasn't offered to do yet) I'm happy.
 
12:56 AM
@Serg lolol
auto-IPs
 
Well, I could assign static IP to it, but what if my mom takes her laptop to work ?
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I love the windows 8.1 start menu, GUI, and taskbar, as well as the great touch integration but also the added mouse and keyboard user fixes that improved iwndow s8.0
windows 8.0 was a joke that unfortunately casted a bad light on windows 8.1
btw I'm trying the latest zorinos 12 on one of my laptops
gonna see if it's better than zorinos 11
 
Have no idea what zoinos is but good luck :)
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix an unofficial ubuntu derivitive
 
I'm currently downloading Mass Effect 3 from origion.com which will take another hour (2 hours total)
 
12:59 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix i'm not telling you to download it right away just see what yhou thinkof it frmom the website
 
There sure are lots of Ubuntu derifatives.
@Windows3.1 love the zorinos.com website splash screen
 
TIL PlayStation OS is apparently based on FreeBSD
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix they have an amazing website I love it :D
@WinEunuuchs2Unix it's definitely better than MicroShaft's website lol
 
@Serg my Sony TV and Sony BluRay player can both run PS 3 games but you'd have to rent them and why would I want to do that???
lol@ Microshaft
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix because it's cheaper than actually buying those games maybe ?
I used to have PlayStation and I have PlayStation 2 somewhere to this day . . .eh, the memoriez
 
1:03 AM
@Serg If it takes me a year (I'm slow) to get through a game the $10/mth rental doesn't save money.
Yes I have a PlayStation 2 someplace too... just not here...
Anyway my point is if the Sony TV and Sony BluRay Player have processors capable of running PS3 games they should let you store them on USB rather than on-line rental... that's all.
 
I need more raspberries . . . Gonna have to save money to just buy Raspberry Pis from each pay check
or maybe other boards
 
Orange Pi...
 
@Serg well if youre able to solder yourself some things go for pi zeros if you really just want to run headless stuff theyre in best case ~5$ each
 
@Videonauth Actually, I do want to get one of those eventually. So far I don't do any soldering or playing with sensors. I'm just poking around server ideas here and there. Like, I used to have minecraft server running there via docker - that was alright
 
yeah i hear ya im running an apache right now on a PI3 B+
 
1:10 AM
@Videonauth Raspbian ?
 
yep
 
I'm using Snappy
 
well raspbian jessie light
but many things running on the strech branch like php7
doing this just to save me a headache because i have no knowledge much of snappy yet
and i wanted the server to be up and running
before i was serving from my main machine here wich i felt very uncomfortable with
 
i am just interested in Snappy, where will it go and such, plus it's another topic to learn and answer on AU, although i haven't dedicated that much time to it lately
It's a bit limited so far, there's not a lot of software packages for it
 
Actually i could use 1-2 more raspberrys
sadly no cash to do so, even the one i have here was a gift
 
1:26 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty much broke too. Plus my dad today said i have to give 100$ each months for utilities and stuff. Yay, and right before finals when I've no work till like February
sigh . . . family is a great thing isn't it
 
well yes :) but in a few years from now on when you have settled you will laugh about this time
 
"few years from now" is far off into future. Right now I'm basically broke and stuck in my goddamn degree , being beaten down by classes as if professors think it's my fetish . . .
Nah, sure, let's screw Serg even more, why not . . . it's not like he's down already
 
@Serg has @KazWolfe been on at all recently?
 
sound as if you're in a real need of the semester break
 
@Windows3.1 nope, haven't seen him in chat
 
1:32 AM
@Serg :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
>:C
 
I'm in need of time machine , to go back in time and change my mind before making decision to go into Engineering.
 
all i have seen in the past month of him is a star wall entry that he will leave the chat forever if someone mentions D or H again
 
I'd just say "Nope, funk that, I'm gonna go into 2 year college, get my basic degree and bail. Peace out and f off
 
???
 
1:35 AM
blank image
 
@Serg no image
just line feed
 
@Videonauth yes, it is an image lol but it is 1 X 6000
 
@Windows3.1 Kazwolfe left chat / AU out of protest that people talked about Clinton and Trump.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix !!!!!!!!!
that's crazy
 
1:39 AM
I guess it was emotional after Trump got elected.
 
a bit
 
not for you or the world, I meant for Kazwolfe
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I'm having trouble installing windows 8.1 on UEFI laptop
@WinEunuuchs2Unix oh
 
@Windows3.1 I just installed 8.1 on UEFI laptop with Legacy BIOS enabled... haven't tried UEFI yet.
 
I cant seem to get it to work on legacy mode >:C
otherwise i would cuz i hate uefi with all my heart soul mind and strength!
this is the error:
"we couldnt create a new partition or locate an existing one. for more information see the setup log files.
 
1:42 AM
I got my .ISO image off the internet last week and burned it to DVD using Ubuntu. Then rebooted and installed n/p. But the Windows 8 license key is burned into BIOS from the factory which might be the difference between you and I.
 
I dont have a dvd drive
not on the laptop
and bootign from usb cd drive never works
 
I created a partition using gparted in Ubuntu before installing Win 8.1.
 
I did too
I used gparted live
I am heading for the microshaft community
 
I've had horrible luck booting off of USB over the years and have pretty much given up on it now. Yeah I got my 8.1 ISO from microshaft as you call them.
 
just install linux and be happy, btw you should be able to run EA game client and mass effect on linux with playonlinux/wine
 
1:46 AM
WHY DO PEOPLE USE PLZ TO SERIOUSLY ASK FOR HELP????!?!?!??!
 
I've thought about playonlinux/wine but I'm a little timid personality unlikely to stray into the unknown.
@Zacharee1 Windows 3.11 was asking where Kazwolfe is
 
and someone trying to format a disc askubuntu.com/review/close/652232
 
@Zacharee1 My common answer to PLZ: If you write PLZ instead of please because it is shorter, I say no because its shorter than yes
 
ooh good one
wait
isn't that Fabby's?
 
what ?
that saying ?
 
1:48 AM
@Zacharee1 because look at the average age of computer-literate people in the earth compared to 26 years ago when I was born, and you realize IM-speak and text speak and stuff is starting to take over.
 
no one will take you seriously if you say "I'm trying to root my phone... PLZZZZ HELP!" on a developer forum
 
The English language is headed for the gutter.
 
"headed"
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix there is wineHQ where you mostly find entries for every game and most times as well how to set up wine for that
 
@Videonauth yes
 
1:50 AM
i dont know that saying is for sure nearly as old as i am , so since fabby is even more an old fart as me :DD who knows lol
 
@Videonauth WineHQ sounds challenging for someone like myself who still after 18 months is unable to get hair morph / skins / whatever working in EA games.
 
@Videonauth I bet I'm older than Fabby.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix appdb.winehq.org/…
@WinEunuuchs2Unix are you born before 1972 ?
 
1:52 AM
well thats my date of delivery
fabby is older than me thats all i know
 
age and wisdom don't go hand in hand so who cares really.
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I ride the pallet jacks at work like skateboard and the girls call me 13 shrugs
 
heh
 
did you see the appdb.winehq link ?
 
I saw the link but didn't click because I booted with Win 8.1
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix I think Fabby is 58+
 
1:55 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix what mine?
 
@Zacharee1 ok Fabby is older than me by 5+ years.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix its just a website where you can see which programms run with wine and which not
 
How old is Elder Geek?
How old is Old Fred?
 
no idea
I can't stalk everyone :p
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix what's your age?
 
1:56 AM
@Videonauth ok, I'll click.
 
I'm 26, so f me, right ?
 
@Serg easy there lol
 
@Serg #nahimgud
 
@Zacharee1 thx sniff,sniff
 
@Windows3.1 I already said I was born in 1963, so my age is a math challenge test for you :)
 
1:57 AM
I don't think you should take that as an offense :p
 
oh
53
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix the magic of the Windows 10 Start Menu
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix only thing giving me a headache are ubisoft games right now, not because of thegames themselfes, no the frickn ubisoft launcher doesnt play nice
 
@Videonauth I clicked the link... I think I already knew that a couple years ago because it seems familiar.
 
@Zacharee1 omg
 
1:58 AM
i better leave chat. i was ok half the day, but just remembering this whole "100$" thing and my classes just . . . throws away all and anything good for today.
peace
 
-_-
 
@Zacharee1 Haven't seen the Windows 10 start menu but am interested in modifying one in Windows 8.1 today.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix noooooooooo dont
 
there is no Windows 8 start menu though
 
keep the #w8start
 
1:59 AM
@Serg wat
 
@Zacharee1 whatever you call it
it rocks
 
the ugly abomination known as the "Modern Start Screen"?
 
@Zacharee1 Windows 8.1 does have a start menu in lower left hand corner but it is basic with no icons or drill down.
 
that's a context menu
 
windows 8.1 start, the most beautiful software design ever created
 
2:00 AM
@Windows3.1 godno
 
@Zacharee1 I use context-sensitive for right mouse click
 
it's so claustrophobic
 
windows 8.1 start, the definition and future of modern inovation
windows 8.1 start, the beauty of living today
windows 8.1 start, the reason windows still exists
 
which was abaonded after one iteration because of how hated it was
 
notice irony Windows 3.11 saying Windows 8.1 is modern innovation...
 
2:01 AM
windows 8.1 start, the only good reason to use a new windows
windows 8.1 start, the closest to the windows 3.1 program manager
windows 8.1 start, true beauty
 
wow 3 AM already, i guess is better i hit the plank
 
windows 8.1 start, innovative and creative
windows 8.1 start, the layout that gets things done
 
windows 8.1... has no clock to tell you it's 3 AM.
 
windows 8.1 start, YOU
@WinEunuuchs2Unix bring up the charms
or look ath the taskbar
 
Ubuntu has systray / application notifier bar with time
taskbar is autohide in Win 8.1 just like Ubuntu launch is setup
 
2:03 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix windows has the taskbar
plus
@WinEunuuchs2Unix you should say UNITY has that
Ubuntu is not unity and unity sux
 
Well when I install Ubuntu I get Unity with it.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix If I actually get the mainstream ubuntu ISO I will change the DE
or else get an official derivative
 
well ttyl folks time for the red pill, or should i take the blue one mhmmmm
 
most likely xubuntu or a derivative ov it
or ubuntu GNOME
 
@Videonauth just follow the white rabbit... it always works.
 
2:04 AM
@Videonauth: red pill = republican party
 
@Windows3.1 you better go back and watch matrix :D
 
blue pill = DemoScat party
 
what's a "scat"?
 
scat is animal s**t
 
ewww... i'm sorry i asked.
 
2:06 AM
DemoScat = Democrat
lol
 
the Democrat part I had figured out.
What's a republic though? how does it differ from a nation or country? How does a nation differ from a country or republic? Why is Russian Federation different from country, nation or republic?
 
please can we make questions like this OT askubuntu.com/review/close/652310
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix republican party was formed in the 1800s to oppose slavery
doesnt have anything to do with the word republic
 
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Q: Should questions about running programs in WINE be allowed?

Zacharee1(Not a duplicate of What should be done (if anything) about the "How to run [Windows Program] in Wine?" questions?, as far as I can tell.) So the help center here allows for questions on the installation and usage of third party programs, as long as they are being used on Ubuntu. This includes u...

You should know better than anyone the state on that question
 
and Democracy has nothing to do with Democrat
 
2:09 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
@Zacharee1 your wish is my command. I voted "unclear" but it may because of 4 beers :)
 
@Zacharee1 correct
 
@ThomasWard they'd fit fine on SU
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix lol
 
@Zacharee1 Your question should be posed on meta. Oh wait you did pose it on Meta.
 
2:09 AM
and really it isn't about Ubuntu or getting programs running on Ubuntu
 
@ThomasWard lol
 
nobody's said it should be OffTopic
 
@ThomasWard and literally nothing came of it
I probably phrased it wrong
they're questions about getting programs running on a program running on Ubuntu
 
has edity been around much recently?
 
I have the feeling Democrats and Republicans usually do the opposite of what they preach.... it makes me a little cynical about politics.
 
2:11 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix in what way?
 
@Windows3.1 I think I saw Edity twice last week...
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix there are idiots on both sides. Let's leave it at that.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix the republican party was formed to help african americans andthey havent quit. they stopped slavery and passed the civil rights act
 
@Zacharee1 then either prod the question, or restate it on Meta. Note that we can't just 'make something offtopic' unless the community agrees.
or obvious things like Mint, etc.
 
@Windows3.1 Democrats preach peace but wage war... Republicans preach saving money but spend tons.
 
2:13 AM
they have also maintained close trade, anti-abortion policies, and immigration control
 
guys, stop
 
abortion is a trick question.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix the only republican that preached saving money but spent tons was bush
 
@ThomasWard well I'm trying to call a Supreme Court session so we can interpret the rules to decide whether or not running programs under WINE is on-topic :P
 
LOL
 
2:13 AM
@Windows3.1 yes I was thinking Bush.
Bush II I mean.
 
@WinEunuuchs2Unix oh please I dont like bush
he was a democrat in republican clothing
 
guys stop
 
Windows 3.11 PLZ stop!!!!
 
@Zacharee1 I'll need one more vote to stop b4 I quit
ok
 
@Windows3.1 this is a disguised insult. and political at that
 
2:14 AM
2 votes = passed
 
double bombing in Turkey today.... I think Erdogan was behind it to take attention away from his constitutional bid to gain more dictatorial powers.
 
@Windows3.1 no, I am trying to prevent what will inevitably happen if you two don't stop. Please don't continue it by insulting my intelligence
 
installs windows 8.1 on @Zacharee1's computer
"insulting my intelligence"
lol
 
@Windows3.1 @WinEunuuchs2Unix you didn't have to flag that
 
installs Windows 95 on Windows 3.11's computer
 
2:16 AM
I didnt flag nothing
I didnt flag anything
 
I didn't flag anything either...seriously
 
unless it was Thomas (doubtful) or Videonauth (even more so), who else though?
 
Actually I've only flagged questions in Ask Ubuntu from my mobile phone because it lacked close options.
 
hacks @Zacharee1 with kali linux
 
reformats Windows 3.11 with MS-DOS 1.1 dual floppy only support
 
2:18 AM
oh, it must have been @Seth
 
Seth is a pretty nice guy
 
Oli hacked him
 
He merged one of my answers once.
pffftttt I'm sure Oli has better things to do than hack Seth.
 
where do you think he's been lately?
 
Who Oli or Seth?
 
2:19 AM
Oli
 
Hopefully on a Caribbean vacation and not here in Edmonton where it is minus 20.
 
2:31 AM
it's rofl Mao
 
Hong Kong needs a new city administrator, I wonder if I could get that job :)
 
are you a ROFL Mao?
 
half Chinese and half Brittish... albeit 4th generation Canadian.
I did fall on the floor lots.... and pretty sure I've laughed before... do you think I'd get the job?
 
mebeh\
 
probably comes with perks like helicopter to fly from one Hong Kong skyscrapper roof top to another.
Then again Aleppo can probably use a new city administrator and that job would be more challenging...hmmm so hard to decide where to send my "CV"
Hi @TheXed how long have you been lurking? :)
I watched that TV series you recommended last week-end "Mr. Robot" took day and half for two seasons but worth it.
 
2:45 AM
@WinEunuuchs2Unix just dropped in on my mobile.
Haven't seen season 2 yet but I am glad you liked it.
 
@TheXed mobile at this time in Chicago? Late night at the Opera?... yes it was a fairly good series. A little too much dream sequences and multiple personalities for my liking but the Linux terminals were intriguing as were the rebellions against media and large corporations.
 
so something very important...
that is all.
no seriously, i figured out why the power is down and why everything broke
 
I'm gonna mod flag it
 
and why i'm in a bad way today
 
huh, what happened?
 
2:59 AM
wait no, CHAT FLAG
 
severe car crash took out a high voltage power transfer line. regional power outage.
 
noiceee
 
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