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12:00 AM
That's easier...
I know Dutch, French and British English typesetting, but I know the US system is different...
 
british and us typesetting should be similar. same rules apply.
 
I just never imagined it being that different, as I've had some of my processes and procedures converted to US English by technical writers, but they never came back to me with stuff like that!
(typing in the dark, sorry for the speeling errors)
 
np
 
;-)
 
Not quite right...
 
12:02 AM
^^ where did I screw up?
 
@NathanOsman intentional speeling error... ;-)
 
@NathanOsman :D:D:D
 
That's better :P
 
well played sir, well played
 
12:04 AM
@hbdgaf If I land that job in NC, I'll drop by your place and by now I'll have to bring you 2 magnum bottles of Belgian beer!
 
I'ld settle for just meeting you in person. It's nice to know people directly instead of abstractly.
 
I can take off the encounter-suit for a second or 2...
 
@Seth Thanks Seth, Rinzwind, et al.! :D
 
awwz, I'm in the et al...
 
12:07 AM
@hbdgaf I can never be sure of writing your name without a typo. ;)
 
:D
 
:-)
There you go...
 
@Fabby was that you?
Aspiring Heisenberg?
 
there you go calling me the kitchen team again. just because i like food doesn't mean i'm second rate on the non-kitchen team stuff...
 
@muru Maybe you're too young to remember Babylon 5
My avatar is a pic of a Vorlon.
 
12:10 AM
I feel as if this is something I should have seen.
 
@Fabby Age no bar. I have watched Star Trek: TOS. Never got around to Bayblon 5
 
so "taking off my encounter suit" means: seeing me for who I am...
So yes, that was the most recent pic I could find of myself...
 
ahhhhh. i took that completely differently.
 
@RPiAwesomeness Apparently you missed it...
@hbdgaf Yeah, but then you have a dirty mind...
 
@Fabby the history of the message still has it
 
12:12 AM
(which according to one of my friends is a joy forever)
@muru Ouch!
When does that get deleted?
 
it doesn't. if you have significant enough SE powers, it is eternal
 
@hbdgaf as they say, once what gets on the interwebs, stays on the interwebs
 
So that's a 10K thingy?
 
no, it's a mod thingy. i'm not a mod, so i can't roll it back - but i know who can.
 
@Fabby it says "last version before deletion" over you pic
 
12:15 AM
@Fabby why would you wear a tie and an apron at the same time?
 
So any rep can see removed messages?
 
so if you edited it and then deleted it..
 
@muru Oh, that's the trick...
 
1 messages deleted
 
What message are we referring to? 'cause I can't access any of his deleted ones.
 
12:16 AM
@RPiAwesomeness Fabby posted one of him streaking. :P
 
O.O
Okay then.
 
@muru :D :D :D
 
I'd rather not see that, thank you very much.
;)
 
@hbdgaf I was wearing a shirt, so I wore a tie too... And as I was going to cook, I wore an apron... And as my aunt thought that very funny and it was sunny outside, she wanted to take a pic....
I don't like my picture taken, but as she insisted, I gave in...
 
12:19 AM
It's fine, it's just an either or for me. So, I have a little trouble.
 
I don't go normally around wearing ties and aprons...
It must have been one of the very few times (Never say never etc...)
 
@Fabby you mean "... wearing only ties and aprons.."
(for RPI's benefit)
 
:D
 
I got that one!
 
12:20 AM
^^ I had a decent shirt, but no tie and a tshirt underneath that said real men do it in asm, just to piss off my C# guys.
 
@muru You can drop the facade now. I know he didn't actually post a pic of himself streaking.
 
For some or other reason I imagined you less slim...
 
Finally. References and Citations complete. This research paper is done.
Hopefully.
 
@RPiAwesomeness as a test, what does this link show you: chat.stackexchange.com/messages/21359604/history?
 
@Fabby metabolism brother, metabolism.
 
12:22 AM
Basically, the chat 404 :)
 
@RPiAwesomeness :D
@hbdgaf I suspect a very intense relationship... ;-)
 
nope, i don't have one of those.
 
@muru so it's a 10k thing...
I looked at that stuff before and never saw anything...
 
@Fabby Your identity is safe ... for now. :P
 
@muru well, @RPiAwesomeness will have to wait for 21 months or start ramping up his rep/month before he can see this...
I'm off to bed!
 
12:26 AM
Woo! \o/ new Hello Internet podcast!
 
@Fabby Night!
 
Its not a 10K thing
You need to be a mod, or IIRC a channel owner to see deleted messages
And a mod can purge stuff
 
Thought I referenced that earlier.
 
Alrighty. School done and dusted, now it's time to add some features to my program.
Next up, attachments.
Or should I do a basic GUI...
Anyone think I should do either one?
 
12:43 AM
hi
gui
 
@NathanOsman Do you know what the proper MIME type for a generic (any type) image would be? Would it be image/*?
 
@RPiAwesomeness Yes.
 
So, I could do:
    filter_img = Gtk.FileFilter()
    filter_img.set_name('Image')
    filter_img.add_mime_type('image/*')
    dialog.add_filter(filter_img)
and it would accept any image (.png, .bmp, .jpg, etc.)?
 
12:58 AM
I have no idea... never used Gtk.FileFilter.
 
Ah.
Well, I'll give it a go! :)
 
Assuming it accepts a media type consisting only of a type (and not also a subtype), it should work.
 
I remember the first programming language I used could only use BMP files. That, even in my beginning stages of graphic design, was a royal pain :P
When I call Gtk.main(), do I have to actually provide Gtk.main()? Or will it go and do its thing and I have to wait for calls from Gtk?
Or, will it make its call, and then return to my code?
 
Is this Python?
 
1:10 AM
No, you just need to call:
Gtk.main()
That's a blocking call - it won't return until Gtk.main_quit() is called.
 
Ah, but that blocks until the window is closed.
I see.
Thanks :)
 
Shucks. I'm not gonna be able to push any updates to my repo today :(
There goes that nice green streak I had going :'(
Here's hoping that re-doing the thermal paste on my CPU helps with temps and performance. Doubtful though, I think the real issue is that my hard drive is on its way out.
 
1:29 AM
TV box is up! Yay Ubuntu
 
 
\o\ \o/ /o/
 
 
So, that's the Dell you had earlier?
 
1:30 AM
HP
 
Siiick. Looks great
HP. Fair enough.
 
Yeah I showed it earlier at home
 
Looks really nice, especially with that little bit of Ubuntu orange on the bottom.
What's it running? Kodi?
 
ubuntu 15.04 desktop
 
Oh, nice! :D
All the better!
 
1:33 AM
then on top of that inside chrome - risevision.com
set auto security updates, and a cron job to reboot each night
 
My family seriously needs to upgrade. We've got some behemoth 15" (basically square) CRT display that's probably bigger than me if I'm rolled into a ball.
 
and auto login
 
Oh sweet! :)
Sounds awesome.
 
@RPiAwesomeness oh, crt... not even 17in ones?
 
I don't even actually know. I'm just guesstimating
I almost feel like it would be better to learn Qt and use Qt for my program as opposed to Gtk...not sure though.
 
1:35 AM
i have a 22in crt in storage...
@RPiAwesomeness qt is cool
 
0_0
I threw my last one when it went over to the dark side and started spiting lightning at my home server.
 
ah, yeah I think I had a 20in one that started fritzing
that one got tossed recycled - a long time ago -
 
@JourneymanGeek lol
 
@RPiAwesomeness: EVeryone needs to live in the same place :/ I know someone who'd probably be interested in a CRT ;p
(and I have some old hardware I'd rather give away than throw out ;p)
 
@JourneymanGeek ikr. Maybe when I get out of college I go live near you and @NathanOsman and @Mateo and @Seth and a few of the other guys can come too and we can just be buds!
 
1:39 AM
hm, somewere between nathan, seth, and I - you are going to live somewhere in the middle of montana??
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1:53 AM
If you add me to the mix, likely somewhere in siberia ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek lol, ikr. Good luck getting internet there. The best they have is inter-yak...
 
Naw, you tie a USB stick to a passing eagle ;p
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2:05 AM
You should all come out here for the OpenStack summit next month.
I'm not planning to attend (I couldn't even tell you what OpenStack is), but lots of smart people will be coming here.
 
@NathanOsman I would totally do that....except I'm a minor and ... yeah
 
Well, and I realize that flying is expensive :P
 
Yeah. Sucks being in Michigan - hardly anything interesting (FOSS/Hardware-wise) happens here :P
I mean...we've got the Detroit Maker Faire...
 
You've got the Detroit Red Wings :P
 
Hockey...eh. I'm not terribly into Hockey.
 
2:09 AM
Wut... how come BuildBot didn't send me an email when the build failed? ಠ_ಠ
 
Hi.
 
@TheX Yo.
 
@NathanOsman sup?
 
o/ @TheX
 
@RPiAwesomeness sup?
 
2:11 AM
@TheX It's Tuesday.
Does that count?
 
TGIT?
 
Nothing much. It is indeed Tuesday.
 
...and I predict tomorrow will be Wednesday.
But we'll have to wait and see.
 
I predict tomorrow is Hump day.
 
2:13 AM
@RPiAwesomeness not that kind of hump! get your mind out of the gutter!
 
Now...which of those is correct?
And then there's -_- and -.-
Which is correct?
 
all of them @RPiAwesomeness
 
smooth save
 
I have been so busy at work :-(
 
Boo. Work usually isn't fun.
 
2:16 AM
As an IT guy I should not have to worry about standardized testing...
Oh and we where the HVAC guys last week...
 
Standards?
 
Oh and the security department 2 weeks ago...
If there is electricity going to something, it seems to be the tech departments responsibility...despite that there are only two of us...
 
2 of us, 5 buildings...
we can't be everywhere at once...
oh well I wonder what tomorrows project will be..
 
Just remember it's better than your last job by a long shot!
;)
 
2:22 AM
OH I had to fix 120 computers on monday for the state testing because some idiot at Google decided he didn't want to support java anymore...
and testing started monday
 
it was just crazy bad timing lol
 
How can you be upset at anyone for not wanting to support Java?
I'd be upset at someone who wanted to support Java :P
 
;p
(and yay, minecraft bundles java so I don't need to have it installed on my gaming box any more)
 
@JourneymanGeek you play minecraft?
 
2:32 AM
Not properly ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek what do you consider proper?
 
@TheX: I play survival, forget for a few weeks, start again ;p
 
@NathanOsman not mad about the lack of support, mad about the timing
 
so never gotten to the endgame/ender place before.
 
@JourneymanGeek well if you get bored you should hop on my server...
@JourneymanGeek me neither, and I really have no desire to get to the endgame...
 
@RPiAwesomeness I'm.. not quite sure how that will work out, we're kind of scattered :p
 
3:10 AM
@TheX yeah, who wants to reach the end? It's the end!
 
@Seth besides I heard the cake is a lie anyways...
 
That's true too.
Or at least, so I've heard.
 
@Seth we will never know for sure...
 
@TheX No, no we don't LOL.
 
Hey my computer has been trying to upgrade to the latest release of Windows 10 since I turned it on when I got off work 6 hours ago... it has been stuck at 31%, am I screwed?
 
3:17 AM
It's Windows. Of course you're screwed! ;)
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um. That's possible.
Sometimes it just takes a long time, but 6 hours seems like too much.
 
3:29 AM
 
3:53 AM
@TheX 6 hours is too long.
Even installing Visual Studio doesn't take that long.
 
@NathanOsman yeah, I just powered it off and back on... it is now "attempting to restore the previous version of Windows"...
 
And 6 hours later, it will succeed!
 
I don't have much faith it will work...
Good thing I just took a back up...
 
The rollback will succeed.
Rollbacks succeed far more often than updates :P
 
If Windows is good at one thing, it's rollbacks and restore points.
 
3:56 AM
@chaskes not really
 
I think so, but I hope your situation works out.
 
4:13 AM
 
4:25 AM
Another really bad fail:
> ...but after realised that xauth would just create an .xauthority if one didn't exist so i changed the permissions of my home dir:
>
> sudo chmod 777 /home/server/
>
> and when i started xauth it worked!
 
5:21 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website: High Quality Ingredients Found in Nitro XL by Furst Jana on askubuntu.com
 
 
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6:51 AM
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Q: Cannot check update sources in Elementary OS Freya (*ubuntu 14.04)

cipricusI am in eOS Freya stable, clean install. I had the same problem before in Ubuntu proper or Xubuntu and have found a solution on askubuntu that now I cannot find when searching. I hope this will help me. I had added Libreoffice 4.4 source and then tried to update. Untrusted sources were reported...

 
7:06 AM
Haz to watch this:)
 
7:26 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Normal sunscreen are absorbed by the skin by Afas Lelu on askubuntu.com
 
7:53 AM
@TheX you can totally get to the cake, but it is a hologram because you go through it
 
8:31 AM
Guys, need halp
 
@MadaraUchiha What Help?
 
I want that all outgoing requests to a.mydomain.com be directed to b.mydomain.com on my machine
I know a proxy is involved but I'm so uneducated in that field it's frightening
Can anyone point me in the correct direction?
 
8:47 AM
hi all: askubuntu.com/questions/414783/… top answer breaks install (and doesn't specify take a backup). I commented a link to the correct answer so people will hopefully read this before trying the first answer. Not sure of the correct procedure for old high search ranking questions such as this!
 
Oli
@MadaraUchiha I would use nginx locally to host a.mydomain.com as a proxy, and use /etc/hosts to direct b.mydomain.com to 127.0.0.01.
I'm sure you could do similar with things like TinyProxy but Nginx is what I know... And it's a lot lighter than a lot of squid-like proxies.
 
9:08 AM
Haha downvote for an accepted answer and no comment, I hate it. askubuntu.com/a/615251/367165
 
9:24 AM
Grmpf, I can't delete my accepted answer. :\
 
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William D. EdwardsI have setup Squid and everything is working. I am now trying to setup a password and all tutorials refer to a file called 'ncsa_auth'. Unfortunately, I do not seem to have this file. I checked in: /usr/lib64/squid and /etc/squid3. I did find the following file though: /usr/lib/squid3/basic_ncsa...

 
10:24 AM
@Oli so server { server_name a.mydomain.com; location / { proxy_pass b.mydomain.com; } }?
(basically)
Thanks, that works beautifully.
 
kos
@Fabby Sorry, for some reason I get chat notifications hours later. Did the one-liner work?
 
I need some help
`#!/bin/bash
selected_text=$(xclip -o)
if [[ "$selected_text" == ~* ]]; then

# Why does this not work?
file_name=$(readlink -f "$selected_text")
else
file_name="$selected_text"
fi

notify-send "Open selection" "$file_name"
xdg-open "$file_name"`
"selected_text " is a path like this ~/myfile
It works in bash but not in a script?
 
kos
@A.B. Any reason why you're matching $selected_text against a regex? If you want to test for NULL just [ !$selected_text ]. Also I think xclip wants a clipboard selected, e.g. -selection clipboard
 
10:39 AM
@kos he's testing for things in home directories, using globs
 
This is a match for ~/file
And I need the full path
 
kos
@muru Right, i missed the second =
 
@A.B. what happens? readlink comes up empty?
 
yes
 
@A.B. ~ is not expanded in "", IIRC
 
10:40 AM
but only in the script
 
And it is a shell construct that readlink wouldn't be aware of
I hate eval, but try
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Q: How to manually expand a special variable (ex: ~ tilde) in bash

madiyaan damhaI have a variable in my bash script whose value is something like this: ~/a/b/c Note that it is unexpanded tilde. When I do ls -lt on this variable (call it $VAR), I get no such directory. I want to let bash interpret/expand this variable without executing it. In other words, I want bash to ru...

Or use something like Python or perl
 
kos
@A.B. Also check the xclip thing, I'm pretty sure you have to specify which clipboard content you want to output
 
In Python:

python3 -c "import os; print(os.path.expanduser('$selected_text'))"
should work
 
hmmmmm
Python in a bash script for one line :\
 
@A.B. Jacob would make it entirely in Python ;P
 
10:52 AM
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A: Terminal : open path with middle-click/context menu?

A.B.Next try: Create a script: nano ~/<your_script_folder>/open_selection Include the following code: #!/bin/bash selected_text=$(xclip -o) if [[ "$selected_text" == ~* ]]; then file_name=$(python -c "import os; print(os.path.expanduser('$selected_text'))") else file_name="$selected_text...

@Jacob I need this in Python :)
@muru ;)
 
@muru are you one of the new vi mods? Well done!
 
@terdon Thanks!
 
Have you been to the TL yet?
 
@terdon Visited it once..
 
OK, just wondering if you needed an invite.
 
10:57 AM
@terdon @Seth pinged us practically the moment Robert announced it :D
 
@A.B. use what I did to your other answer:
readlink -f ${selected_text/\~/$HOME}
@muru Ah, OK. I missed the announcement. Seth is nice that way, he did the same for me :)
 
@terdon I'd have suggested that, but what about the rare case of ~random_user
 
@muru You mean a user name that starts with ~?
Crap...
 
@terdon No, ~foo expands to path of foo's home directory
 
@muru Ah, yes, of course. And that's not rare at all.
 
11:03 AM
@terdon wow, great, thx :\ Sometimes I'm really stupid.
 
@A.B. why are you posting so many answers? And did you actually test them? You can't pipe data to mkdir!
You've posted three separate answers to the same question!?
 
@terdon I'll delete it
 
@muru come to think of it, I don't think that ~foo will be a problem. I don't think that is printed anywhere by the system, so I doubt that it can be in the output of a grep. That's used by users only, as far as I know, no system commands.
 
@terdon But this was such a stupid snapshot again.
 
@terdon then we don't have to worry about ~ either, I suppose..
 
11:08 AM
I need supervision =)
 
@muru I guess... otherwise, you'd need some case statements
 
kos
11:30 AM
Speaking of the most awaited new features in Vivid, finally you have the home folder content brought up while emptying the trash.
Someone found a way around this?
 
11:44 AM
@kos Don't understand.
 
kos
@A.B. Whenever I try to empty the trash, a nautilus window on the path of my home brings up, does this happen only to me?
@A.B. With nautilus already open or closed, no difference
 
@kos Nautllus 3.14?
 
kos
@A.B. No, 3.14.2
 
@kos Aah, I'm sorry, I can not test, I use 3.16
 
kos
@A.B. np
 
11:58 AM
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Q: "This post is deleted and cannot be edited." text on a totally blank page

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I thought this was a straightforward question, but it looks like it's kicking off.... meta.askubuntu.com/questions/13908/…
 
@CarlH if it has problems those should be considered bugs and need to be reported on launchpad >:)
 
@Rinzwind The question is no longer relevant to me (I've bought a different laptop), just a bit surprised at some of the comments.
Ironically, I've had zero success at putting Ubuntu onto the new laptop.
 
@CarlH why? I managed on a brand new machine that had an unsupported video card. The installer crashed 4, 5 times on that and only booted after tweaking the boot proces parameters.
Up to now even the most stubborn machine I had I could install onto it.
 
TBF, I haven't even got that far. Can't make a bootable USB.
Probably try it again tonight on my Ubuntu PC. I used the Win8 USB maker, which might be the problem.
 
12:10 PM
That aint a problem. Make it on another machine :+
 
I think the first USB stick is trashed. It was brand new. The second one appeared to work, but on boot it hangs at the SYSLINUX message at the start.
 
just got to figure out why it crashes and find the boot parameter that makes it skip it
 
Okay..... any suggestions on how I go about that? :)
I think I'll have a look in the BIOS and see if booting from a DVD is an option. Might be easier!
Anyone got any tips for something to test and repair a USB disk? fdisk can't do it. GParted says there's no partition table, creating one doesn't do anything, and there's a yellow warning triangle next to 'unallocated' in GParted's GUI, which comes up as something about an invalid volume label.
 
kos
12:28 PM
@CarlH This might damage it further if it's damaged already, so beware, but if you really don't have nothing to lose just dd the first 1MB: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M count=1 and see if then you can manage to do everything from gparted
 
@kos Thanks, I'll try that. It was brand new on Monday, the only thing I've done it plug it in a Win8 machine (I know....) and make a bootable Ubuntu device.
 
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@kos Just out of interest, why only the first 1Mb? What would happen if I dd ' d the entire device with zero?
 
kos
@CarlH 1MB is actually an overkill, because the point of the command is to erase just the partition table, so less would be enough, but just to be sure. dding the whole device is unuseful in this case, because it just increases its wear-leveling , you don't want that
@CarlH dding the whole device is usually done to make the data unrecoverable from software tools
 
12:45 PM
@kos Yeah, I was wondering why you didn't suggest 512.
 
@muru Why do you write no answer?
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kos
@terdon Yes, no point actually. 512B should be always enough right?
 
@A.B. found your problem
 
@Virusboy ?
 
kos
@terdon I fear those NTFS backup sectors mostly
 
12:49 PM
Your not running as root
also you need to check the process list
 
@Virusboy I do not have a problem
 
kos
@terdon But i'm not actually sure if they are placed at the start or at the end
 
lemme alone i just woke up at 4am
 
@kos I don't really know, I'm not very knowledgeable about filesystem/MBR mechanics. I've just always heard that the first 512 are the MBR and that's where your partition table will be.
 
kos
@terdon I'm not sure either. I know that and that GPTs might be larger, but this shouldn't be a problem since if nothing is found within the first 512B i guess that the partition table should be recognized as broken already. But I know that NTFSes have backup sectors stored elsewhere. Looking at this
 
1:08 PM
@A.B. why is there no / in front of usr/bin/php?
 
@A.B. if it's just a typo, I'm going to vote to close anyway
 
1:22 PM
Am I doing something wrong?
 
What are you doing? O.o
 
512B is too small make it one MB
 
kos
@A.B. No, but if the question is not likely to help someone else it can just be closed
 
@kos ok =\
 
kos
@Virusboy That's what I tought but I'm not sure. Is this for GPTs?
 
1:26 PM
no no MBR
 
I have to go. See you later.
 
GPT uses more
 
kos
@Virusboy That's what I feared, so wiping the firs 512B isn't enough for GTP? they can still be recognized?
 
kos the thing with partitions is everything is stored at the front
 
kos
@Virusboy I know, but I also know NTFS filesystem put a backup of the partition table somewhere else, altough I don't remember well. I think an adequate program could recover such backup sector
 
1:30 PM
windoes does not do it automatically
 
kos
@Virusboy Yep, probably aiming at wiping GPTs is enough
 
i need to check standard gpt and mbr standards
 
kos
@Virusboy If you do drop me a comment, I'm interested also. If you don't I'll do that later, I can't right now
 
the table is allocated in 512B sectors
A conventional volume boot record will fit within a 512-byte sector, but it is safe for MBR code to load additional sectors to accommodate boot loaders longer than one sector, provided they do not make any assumptions on what the sector size is.In fact, at least 1 KB of RAM is available at address 7C00h in every IBM XT- and AT-class machine, so a 1 KB sector could be used with no problem
@kos
I forgot it was 1 KB not MB
 
1:47 PM
It was a brand new USB device, if that helps?
 
GPT 16MB but the standard is unkown. 50MB?
 

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