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12:00 AM

@JourneymanGeek I like lxqt. It makes a lot of sense.

o/ @hbdgaf

o/

RPi Awesomeness

@JoshuaRobison Try looking at Ubuntu MATE

I was waiting for the hunt :P

how are you, man?

The coarsely chopped green onions comment was related to the Mr Bean culinary musical fun. And things are mediocre. I'm burned out at my job a little. That whole the more you do the more you have to do feedback loop. So, I'm alternately driven to finish my independent project and too tired (not exhausted just bone tired) to touch it.

12:05 AM

oh, I remember that!

Journeyman Geek

lol

I actually seem to love my job. I just have a ton to learn before I get any good at it ;p

good to hear I'm not the only one

Wasn't that johnny English 2?

yep

@hbdgaf are you still working on the pandas thing?

2

@Lucio yes. it is getting closer, but i'm at the REALLY hard part now.

12:07 AM

@Virusboy yes, it's really bothering me too.

@hbdgaf ninja panda!

pistolero panditos is the project name if it ever makes it.

2

haha cool

oh Seth, hi!

Hi @Lucio!

RPi Awesomeness

@hbdgaf You mentioned the Pi being able to run angrstrom. What's angrstrom??

12:11 AM

you are using that avatar again.. totally forgot the bowl

RPi Awesomeness

@Lucio Me? Or @Seth?

seth

@RPiAwesomeness a super-lightweight distribution for embedded programming.

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'cause we're both using Super Bowl avatars

Okay

@hbdgaf Ah. Hadn't heard of it!

It''s what the beagle runs

RPi Awesomeness

12:12 AM

And it runs on the Pi?

@RPiAwesomeness but I have been talking with you today

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@Lucio You have :)

@Seth - Your boys gave that game away. I mean passing at 1 yard? Someone had a bet on the spread and... won in a bad way.

@KitZ.Fox You can say that again!

@hbdgaf Yes, I know :(

RPi Awesomeness

@hbdgaf ikr. Strangest call ever in the Super Bowl O.o

12:13 AM

what about @Jorge?

Our OC has never been my favourite but sometimes he just ruins things for real..

@RPiAwesomeness pretty sure it does

o/ Eric

o/ @Lucio

@hbdgaf Especially when you hear the coach say they were just trying to waste a down.. it's like "really!?!"

RPi Awesomeness

12:15 AM

@Seth ikr. Just bloody give the ball to your RB - he's one of the best in the game

what's OC?

@Seth With that little time on the clock, it doesn't make sense. If you had a ton of time on the clock - like minutes - for return play - it would make sense to waste downs and burn the clock, but with not enough to run the TD and conversion affter a penalty yardage - it just doesn't make sense.

@Seth I didnt see the game but apperantly the stupidest call ever made

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@hbdgaf I can't find a download for angstrom...?

is it in repos? @RPiAwesomeness

12:17 AM

@chaskes own couch?

onion couch?

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@Virusboy Dunno. I don't think so.

a USA football thing for sure

@RPiAwesomeness it might not exist yet raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4837

RPi Awesomeness

:)

@Lucio yeah, i don't watch american football. i do watch football though ;)

12:19 AM

@RPiAwesomeness practically anything but a slant would have been fine..

wp.angstrom-distribution.org

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@Seth But, hey. They didn't :) And I'm happy

@hbdgaf yeah.. I'm not even going to think about it D:

@RPiAwesomeness Yes, I'm sure you are.. ;)

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@Seth :)

@hbdgaf do you know what happened with Chelsea vs MC?

12:19 AM

Now you can see why I have a fair amount of confidence in my team though. They almost almost won.

Literally almost.

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@Seth And you're back to being a chameleon?

missed any sport news since 3 weeks ago

RPi Awesomeness

@Seth Dude. Now you know how the Packers felt ... sorta

Except the Packers just got out-played.

@Virusboy Not the absolute worst, points have been scored on slants many times before, but for the team and the situation it was terrible.

@Lucio nope. i don't follow it, but i'll watch it. i can appreciate the skill in football. in american football it just looks like steroid infused freight trains taking runs at each other over and over again.

12:21 AM

heh, welcome to the club then

@RPiAwesomeness yep, although I do feel we just outright beat the Packers vs (almost) giving it right to the Pats.

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@Seth Eeh...it wasn't a total outright beat.

But it's football, crazy stuff happens all the time.

gotta reboot machine to check a new OS- bbl

@Seth No I agree Dallas Superbowl against Bills was worst

RPi Awesomeness

12:22 AM

You had some pretty insane, how the heck did that just happens passes.

@RPiAwesomeness true, I worded that badly.

@Lucio Offensive Coach, just hit me. I guess he was offensive.

@RPiAwesomeness That's what we do :D

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And the Post Season OT rules are sooooo biased towards the team who wins the toss

@Seth It was very impressive :)

@Seth you fellows gave it to the patriots. don't be disingenuous. they lost. the game was handed over on a platter.

RPi Awesomeness

12:23 AM

But you have to admit, the Packers put together one heck of a drive to tie and send it to over time :)

@hbdgaf Oh yes, we lost. That's football. I'm the first to admit we lost. Fair and square.

@RPiAwesomeness Yes, yes they did. I have tons of respect for Rodgers and his team.

(Actually, Packers are my #2 fav. team)

@RPiAwesomeness I hear green bay and tampa bay are putting together an expansion team. They're called the tampaxers. Their defense is awesome, but there's no second string.

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And the same for the Seahawks in my case - #3 fav :)

Russel Wilson is one heck of a quarterback.

Not quite as good as Rodgers on all fronts, but he's up there.

@RPiAwesomeness It used to be even more so. If the rules a few years ago were the way they are now methinks we would remember Tim Tebow differently..

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@Seth ;) That play...

I'd put Wilson just below Brady (who's after Rodgers), simply because Brady has had better game sense and more experience. Next season, I dunno - Brady's getting old.

12:27 AM

tbh I don't like Brady too much. He seems rather melancholy.. Not like that makes him any less of a QB ofc ;)

brb, got some work to do.

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@Seth Yeah. He's become a lot worse the past 2 seasons

And I don't exactly like him as a person.

there was a novel series where a medieval axe wielder with his aging knees still carried the day. might be something worth thinking about.

and what was the series?

I can't remember. They were novellas really, not novels. about 300 pages a piece. I'll see if I can dig it up.

@Seth INORITE!?

12:34 AM

please do

Anyway, your team played really well, @Seth. I thought they had us for sure, especially after that frigging catch by whatshisname. I hope you are not too bummed.

@chaskes Like a boss who's awesome? I'm awesome. Remember a book from 20 years ago.

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@KitZ.Fox You're a pats fan too? Wewt wewt!

@KitZ.Fox But that catch O.O

I was so scurred. I thought it was the game then and there.

Thank goodness Belichick didn't take a timeout down there and let them change the play O.O

Im not a PAT fan, but seahawk chasing aint a thing

@hbdgaf Awesome indeed, thanks. Looks like good stuff

12:39 AM

There's a whole series. I read about 4 of them... and enjoyed them all as light reading.

Looking at author's wiki page now. I'll have to try the series.

Gemmell as an author. Just read covers. If it seems like you'll like it you'll like it. Also, if you haven't read the Coldfire trilogy and you think you might like this, you'll like the Coldfire trilogy.

thx. looking at that wiki page now too

:P

@hbdgaf right now reading the extra tolkien stuff for the first time. silmarilion, etc

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12:45 AM

@chaskes Hooray for Tolkien!

Just finished LOTR for the umpteenth, but never read the background stuff before

i don't read fiction much any more. i did read some of the off tolkein bits though. i liked them okay. also enjoyed the sword of truth series, but i think i outgrew that phase. i'm just glad i didn't buy in to the robert jordan series on premace that he'ld die before he wrapped his story up. i was right.

i made that observation to a friend of mine a decade ago

you mean the wheel of time or some4thing like it

don't get me started on Robert Jordon.

I hate it

Journeyman Geek

12:47 AM

I try to read a novel per month.

He's got..........issues

Journeyman Geek

I tend to do Urban fanatasy or sci fi tho.

@hbdgaf Same here, really. Recently made a conscious decision to get some fiction back in the mix

I read most of the Halo novels, actually enjoyed them

he had talent on spinning off many story lines and touching on them all to influence a major plot. the problem was it kept getting bigger and never focused on closing up the story line...

12:50 AM

exactly. 1-4 brilliant. 5+ horrible. actually, the 3 sanderson ones at the end were not bad.

i enjoyed them all, i just refused to buy in for something that would never climax.

I actually liked how Goodkind ended the series

King too with The Dark Tower

king is different. i could never enjoy him. too much 300 pages of foreplay to get to the storyline.

at least he could set the stage

yes, but if you're always setting the stage, you're never taking the stage.

12:54 AM

no he takes the stage, some of his books though do not, and feels more like a wet dream.

Tommyknockers was one of those wet dreams

<-- critic asshole that has never published a book criticising authors. still, i have my points.

I agree with your King thoughts.

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@Virusboy i liked his nightmares and dreamscapes thing. he had to force his story in to a compact and functional story. it was his best writing to my thinking.

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Oh dear. I think Farnell/Element14's site actually crashed :D

12:56 AM

as far as an epic is concered his Dark tower series is his coupe de gvoue

rrrrrr mods

@RPiAwesomeness yeah, looks like part of it is down

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@Whaaaaaat ??

@Virusboy could be. it's the one piece of his writing i haven't imbibed. also, i need a nap.

you should

RPi Awesomeness

1:53 AM

Am I the only one who notices that LinusTechTip's As Fast As Possible turns into AFAP?

...take the first letters and bam.

Don't know if they quite thought that one out...

Why I notice these things, do not ask me - I have a strange mind

2:19 AM

Why would wine take up 2gb of memory when no applications are running whatsoever?

guess it's time to google what exactly /usr/bin/wineserver is

@john it is simply Wine running

RPi Awesomeness

But...2GB...wow. That's not normal

@RPiAwesomeness My thoughts exactly

@RPiAwesomeness not for windows stuff ;P

You have a background task running in wine then

RPi Awesomeness

2:21 AM

@Mateo lol, true :)

or WINE has set the bar for ideling

Not anymore I don't, hehe

it caches ram for quick use, something windows forgets to do

Oh, that would make sense

seeing as I had 3 things running in it, two of which required ungraceful exits

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A better understanding

2:40 AM

I see that pic every month here

@Virusboy have you worked with OSX?

And it's not entirely true.

@Lucio i have

but you are @Niceboy

jk :P

@Lucio Last time I worked with Apple was when G3's where hot.

I have no idea how does HFS works and need to fix an issue with it

I give the floor to @Jrg then

2:42 AM

lol

Oh, nope.

:(

No idea what HFS does/works etc

sorry. :(

TL;DR A Mac user gave me a .dmg file, but can't handle to convert it into a valid ISO

@jrg no worries

3:01 AM

crap, I hate Mac

@KitZ.Fox Naww, not too badly. I'm used to losing. I gotta say though, this was the one time I was absolutely sure we'd win, and to have it end like that was hard.

3:30 AM

@Mateo: incidentally, Qt 5 doesn't support PPC, so you will have one less build to worry about.

Qt5 a pain in my ass even after being purged off my system

@Virusboy That makes so much sense.

doesn't it though

and explains so much

wanna add sarcasm for 99 cent extra?

3:44 AM

yes

I don't have 99 cents around, though

I just realized my keyboard does not have a ¢ on it.

I seriously thought I had one.

Hm

New programs are now being complied with QT5 in it

but it seems to break every linux distro to some degree

:(

So does anyone know how to explain why

`cat file1 > file2 > file3`

will truncate all data in file2, and put all of the data from file1 into file3?

would think file2 would also have data

because your telling it to do just that

file2 becomes empty

is the part that is hard to understand

would think
cat file1 (stdout>stdin)file2(stdout>stdin)file3

3:52 AM

because you are combining file data

the last file stated is the output folder

but why :)

here
cat file1>file2

file2 is emptied, then data input

this denoted you want all the data combine as file 2

why isnt file 1 into file 3 then

ok example
file1 has data "1"

file2 has "2"

file3 has "3"

the command results in file1 = "1"
file2 ="" (nothing)
file3 ="1"

3:55 AM

if you have it as `cat file1>File2>file3`
Itll still read it as `cat file1>file2 file3

you put exactly cat file1>file2>file3 right?

yes

I looked it up, and seems 2 > is not appropaite for syntax use

unless your piping its gonna mess up a bit.

i can add space it still does the same thing, 2> is stderr

you are coping data from 1 and 2 into 3?

the way I would picture it working would be
command is output from 1 to 2, 2 to 3

sorry for delay there

i would't thing that 2 would be erased completely

4:04 AM

cat file1 file2 > file3

that copies both into file3

but you want 1 into 2 then 2 into 3

2 actually doesnt get data

so wait

it should result in
file1 = 1
file2 = 1
file3 = 1

4:06 AM

you want everything into 1?

just trying to figure why it doesn't do that.

why would sending stdout > stdin result in complete data deletion through the line

like I could have 30 files if i did file1 > file2 > .... > file30,

result would be 1 and 30 the same but the rest set to 0 bytes

idk why it does it

its fine neither do I, I am just wondering :)

i think maybe thats why there is pipes | but Idk

i know you can do multiple files into one file, but past multiple copies in a single command line, no I have never heard of it working past piping it

it does odd things here too:
cat file1 > file2 0> file1 > file3

everything gets wiped

4:12 AM

that 0 bugs me

it does the same without it

i just checked

just do

`cat file 1 > file 2|file 1 > file 3`

2> is standard error
1> is standard out
0> is standard in

I believe

file1 isnt command

you'd have to send it through a command first

like.. tee or something

still wipes everything though

prolly should make a question on it. Because last I checked, in order to append multiple copies under cat you needed to pipe it.

except 2

4:15 AM

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if I wanted to I could just do cat file1 >file2;cat file2 >file3

I made a booboo yes thank you for correcting me

@SmokeDetector whats the bad word?

its a spam question

ik

I just want to understand the command itself to be honest I am thinking it is reading the whole command executing, then writing at the end.. instead of writing as it goes

4:24 AM

its like writing if-then commands under python.

x = 1
y = 2
z = 3

if x == 1:
then:
y=x
z=y

print (z)

?

jeeze i can't remember how to program

4:39 AM

caught a spam answer in first posts

linky?

also, does anyone know where I can cheap SLI (rigid) bridges?

nope sorry

Journeyman Geek

buy? make?

Only rigid bridges I've seen are nvidia ones with LEDs

umm no such time @Whaaaaaat

@JourneymanGeek yep and they're expensive af

4:42 AM

I cant find it but its in the review queue

okay. i'm so done with the star system here. it's gotten pointless.

@Whaaaaaat Seth agrees

it doesn't do anything really anyway

SLI bridges?

the stars

4:43 AM

yes, that's obvious by the waste of them here.

users should get 10 stars/week

those under a certain rep at least

rrr ebay sucks

i want this auction to end now, not in two days

buys out bid

i guess you really need diapers.

you are buying diapers on an auction??

4:45 AM

no, that's just to get virus off my back

replacement tablet.

yes I do @Whaaaaaat My two year old potty training

woah grats on 1k

ty

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oh crap

thats the one in question

flagged

@SmokeDetector DO YOUR JOB!

ditto

good thing I caught it in both review queues

4:50 AM

lol bbcode fail

should i edit into markdown?

yes please

http://askubuntu.com/questions/581049/battle-net-complete-white-screen-help

Could I answer this since its not a bug, but more a problem in OpenGL in Mesa in conflict with Qt5

k format fixed

that was annoying me way too much

its why i insta spam flagged it

@Virusboy is there an ubuntu fix for it?

no

its more recompile Mesa

4:55 AM

sure, knock yourself out

@Whaaaaaat whats does its in master mean as far as repos go or programs

uhm... context?

A proper fix for this is now in master:

commit 0008d0e59eff365079323918508ffc87355a6bfd
Author: Chris Forbes <chrisf@ijw.co.nz>
Date: Tue Nov 25 09:44:19 2014 +1300

in reference to Mesa

oh, that's Git, the master code channel

master branch

oh ok

5:09 AM

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Aiming weapons...

preparing laser cannon

waiting for fire order

@NathanOsman stop starring your own posts :P

also, i can't get the survey

@Whaaaaaat It's pinned.

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@Whaaaaaat

5:13 AM

user is not authorized. firing anyways

FWOOSH - Laser fire successful. Target eliminated.

who did we eliminate?

11 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

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lol

that thing takes forever to charge

and even longer to confirm that a target is nuked.

i hope this guys poor soul is up to the challenge of autohell

5:25 AM

[ TacticalNuke ] Launching closebomb on target. Unless you are authorized to see the nuke, get away!

Excessive force authorized you may proceed to use an authorized use of Overkill.

[ TacticalNuke ] Targeting Linuxus Mintia, the second moon of Ubuntus, a member of the Debian System.

youre pointed in the wrong direction, its the moon of Cinnami!

no...

Cinnami is a continent on Mintia. It's on a lot of planets...

It's actually a landmark-sorta-thing which is on almost every planet of the Linux Galaxy.

gives firing codes

5:35 AM

i already have keys 1-4 ready, key 6's owner is standing by. still need 5, 7, and 8.

software safeties are already disabled, just the hardware ones now.

greenie on my end

keys 1-6 active. waiting on 7 and 8

i can't use the cool flip-top covered switches until all 8 keys are in place.

places 8th in key slot

key 7 pending.

i like how keys 2-4 were just left in the control panel.

typical

5:41 AM

you think the mods would be a bit more careful with keys

nathan left his with me, and seth didn't even remove it from the active position

Seth did? must have had a preoccupied day

we're not allowed to touch each other's keys, so...

it's stayed in there since we did the Babaji System nuke.

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done

@Rinzwind I finally made an answer worthy of you :D

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7:38 AM

@Virusboy +1 :D

7:50 AM

A funny one for @chili555: I don't know what I did but my Broadcom works

@Virusboy: upvote and edit...

;-)

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