Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:21 AM

Whew. Actually, uninstalling UbuntuStudio was more difficult than I thought, but apparently it fixed my mike! Might want to note it myself in the future.

@Whaaaaaat Right click, properties, and click on the square icon in the upper left. Select a file. Done. Hope that helped!

.....

@Whaaaaaat ?

That does not help.

@Whaaaaaat Well, sorry then. Maybe it will help another user.

hbdgaf

Nice fish pic. What kind of fish?

waterlubber

12:24 AM

Anyone know any good ideas for Ubuntu friendly mid-low end graphics cards? I want something than can get ~100 fps in Minecraft on high end settings. My friend has a Saphhire. Currently, I need the x.org drivers or Minecraft and other games crash on startup and even the xorgs are buggy.

Whaaaaaat

Nvidia.

also, is this a laptop or a desktop?

waterlubber

@hbdgaf Puffer. Got it off Wikipedia, white spotted puffer.

And I am using NVidia GeForce 8400GS.

Maybe it will teach me not to buy $50 graphics cards. -_-

Whaaaaaat

4way SLI.

Just get one of those.

hbdgaf

@Jorge had a post on a nice entry point graphics card... hold. I'll find it

waterlubber

I don't think I can afford SLI just yet.

Whaaaaaat

12:27 AM

Even though, I use an nVidia laptop card and I get 120+ FPS on Ultra Skyrim.

waterlubber

My motherboard is PCI2, but for the lower range cards it shouldn't matter too much.

Whaaaaaat

What is your price range?

Journeyman Geek

pci e 2

@waterlubber: the 8000 series was problematic.

waterlubber

<$175

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, no wonder it was so cheap.

Journeyman Geek

Also, minecraft generally sucks

Whaaaaaat

12:28 AM

Flagged

Journeyman Geek

(I had one and a half. I had a 8800 on my last gaming box)

Whaaaaaat

@waterlubber You could try to use Optifine...

Journeyman Geek

@Whaaaaaat: As a game? Its a blast. In terms of performance...

Whaaaaaat

@JourneymanGeek Retracted.

But personally, I recommend that you get a nice nVidia card.

Use Optifine as well.

waterlubber

@Whaaaaaat I already do. Still get <30 fps all the time, usually sits at 29 and NEVER goes above. And yes, I have Vsync off

hbdgaf

12:29 AM

@waterlubber Here jorgecastro.org/2014/08/21/the-ubuntu-steam-box - it's a use case for a card from someone that used a decent and relatively inexpensive one

Journeyman Geek

I ran it on a gforce 660 (great card) on the nvidia official drivers

Whaaaaaat

But, it won't matter anymore. Minecraft will soon be XBOne only.

waterlubber

@Whaaaaaat Why was that flagged?

@Whaaaaaat Nope. I Will make a Winecraft that runs on WINE only just for kicks.

Whaaaaaat

@waterlubber You have a lot to learn here.

hbdgaf

@Whaaaaaat If it goes that way, someone will fork it.

Journeyman Geek

12:30 AM

@waterlubber: cause I said minecaft sucks. He didn't actually flag it ;p

Whaaaaaat

@JourneymanGeek Wrong user.

waterlubber

Minecraft used to be good. Now it sucks.

1.8 = The Let's Kill Bukkit build

Whaaaaaat

@waterlubber Wine doesn't run XBOne programs.

waterlubber

I said that it would take forever to update in 1.7. I didn't mean that it would take FOREVER

Whaaaaaat

@waterlubber Countless developers, including me, are sacrificing sleep to fix this.

waterlubber

12:31 AM

@Whaaaaaat And I know that, I meant a spinoff of Minecraft that will only run in WINE

@Whaaaaaat Heard of Sponge?

Whaaaaaat

@waterlubber Microsoft will sue for a lot of money.

hbdgaf

Not necessarily. Lawsuits cost money, so only people that stand to lose something get sued for money.

waterlubber

@Whaaaaaat Oh yeah, I forgot. Microsoft. Last time I went into Microsoft a mod scolded me.

Journeyman Geek

@hbdgaf: Interesting that he mentioned the brix. Supposedly the high end model tends to overheat. Though, if you have wired ethernet, you could just stick a gaming box in a corner and stream to a ultra cheap nuc class box.

0_0

@Whaaaaaat: meh, that's FUD

waterlubber

PC Gaming Master Race. That's all I can say.

Whaaaaaat

12:33 AM

@waterlubber Linux Gaming.

Journeyman Geek

Unless MS says they're going to make minecraft an exclusive, lets not jump to conclusions.

waterlubber

@Whaaaaaat You are my new friend.

I can't stand Windows8 and Xbox

Whaaaaaat

@waterlubber You really DO have a lot to learn here. When did you get chat permissions?

hbdgaf

@waterlubber arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/08/…

@JourneymanGeek and that

waterlubber

@hbdgaf More reason to hate on DirectX, the world's worst 3d rendering software.

Whaaaaaat

12:34 AM

@waterlubber hissssssssssssss

Journeyman Geek

<3

hbdgaf

I only dislike directx because cryengine runs on it... and cryengine on linux would be awesomesauce

Whaaaaaat

@JourneymanGeek GIVE ME YOUR STEAM PASSWORD

Journeyman Geek

@hbdgaf: You cant stream from a linux server yet :/

@Whaaaaaat: ;p

Whaaaaaat

@JourneymanGeek :D

Journeyman Geek

12:35 AM

Its not that many games

waterlubber

I stream with seperate software...it has its perks, especially on linux.

hbdgaf

@JourneymanGeek You a debian developer/maintainer?

waterlubber

@JourneymanGeek Steam sale abuse.

Journeyman Geek

^^^

Precisely

hbdgaf

which one?

Journeyman Geek

12:36 AM

and HIBs and Bundlestars and...

@hbdgaf: No, I just shop like a singaporean.

waterlubber

Worth the weight.

Whaaaaaat

I literally only have Portal/2, GoatSim, TF2, and Skyrim.

waterlubber

I just have Portal/2 and TF2, the greatest hat simulator ever

Anyone here play KSP?

hbdgaf

ZOMG, you don't want to see my steam account that I only use for l4d now. The windows section was... erm... large. And bargain shopped.

Journeyman Geek

I own it, not played it yet ;p

waterlubber

12:37 AM

Journey, play it. Seriously. Open it up RIGHT NOW and play it.

Then again, you problem own all the games. All your games are belong to Journeyman!

Journeyman Geek

@waterlubber: I'd rather give it the time and effort it deserves ;p

@waterlubber: If only ;p

waterlubber

@JourneymanGeek Infinite time and effort, I say. Wait a second...that image...Portal 2 BETA? lies. all lies. Today, I decoded the SSTV broadcast from the radio.

hbdgaf

Whaaaaaat

Oh and gMod.

SKYRIM :D

Journeyman Geek

Its probably beta on linux

(protip. ABUSE THE HELL OUT OF SALES)

waterlubber

12:39 AM

@Whaaaaaat Have that, haven't played it yet, mostly because it's on Xbone.

WINE

hbdgaf

@Whaaaaaat did you see the "skyrim as rendered by cryengine" thing on youtube? it was pretty epic.

Whaaaaaat

@waterlubber Skyrim on Wine sucks.

That is the sole reason I still have Windows. (And office)

waterlubber

Windows user: Ha, you can't run (game here) on Linux:
Linux user: Stop wining

I have Windows 7. If I tried Windows 8 it would be like a Mac to me. Impossible.

Linux learning curve < Windows 8 Learning Curve

Linux > Windows

Journeyman Geek

lol

Whaaaaaat

holy freaking cryengine

Journeyman Geek

12:41 AM

@waterlubber: I switched to 8 pretty easily.

hbdgaf

@Whaaaaaat ikr

waterlubber

@JourneymanGeek Button to big. Me no like big button.

Journeyman Geek

@waterlubber: classic shell ;p

(right now, I have a fedora 20 system a windows 7 and 8 system in front of me ;p

hbdgaf

I have a Mavericks VM to troubleshoot things with... but yeah. I also have a dual-boot Windows box, so I can switch hit if I need to...

waterlubber

I tried to get my dad to install that. He didn't want me to break things.
(little did he know I OphCracked his password when I was 10...)

Journeyman Geek

12:42 AM

lol

hbdgaf

Ultimately I think stuff like OnLive will win. Steam needs an OnLive plugin or something.

Journeyman Geek

These are my pcs.

And I'd rather be on a old piece of junk than not be ~~master of my own destiny~~ have admin rights on my systems

Whaaaaaat

Holy god. I WANT CRYENGINE ON SKYRIM NOW.

My pc would probably lag like hell though.

waterlubber

Linux in my opinion is the future, mainly due to it's OpenSource-ness. Perfect mix of developer and user. And I'm not saying this because I'm on AU, it's because it's my opinion.

Journeyman Geek

(heck, I kept getting kicked off the shared box, so I rescued and fixed up an old dumpster diva)

waterlubber

12:43 AM

@JourneymanGeek: Ever used an iPhone? Oh heeeck no.

Journeyman Geek

@waterlubber: I prefer diversity in OSes, and platforms

@waterlubber: SIL owns one.

waterlubber

@JourneymanGeek could be right

My machine = Windows XP PowerPC - Everything + Goodness from Amazon

Journeyman Geek

but BUT the iphone and apple in general has enough of a halo effect that it affects other things positively

waterlubber

I kept the case

Journeyman Geek

(screens for example!)

waterlubber

12:45 AM

Fun fact: The iPhone 6 was accidentally pre-released in 2012 as the...
Nexus 4

hbdgaf

We've all seen the infographic

Journeyman Geek

But then again, you guys are probably sick of me gushing over my new monitor ;p

waterlubber

Is it 4k? I saw a 4k TV and man, those are crisp. Makes my family's LED look like a doodle.

hbdgaf

The video card I was so sad I lost newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129141

waterlubber

450 Watts? That thing is inefficient for it's specs. :(
Mine draws 200

hbdgaf

12:47 AM

It was a time long ago in a galaxy far away. It was raw powerful though.

waterlubber

:D I still have an ancient 5.5 PATA with a whopping 160GB of storage, that's HUGE at the time.

GTG. Just found something funny on XKCD for my mom to enjoy: imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tech_support_cheat_sheet.png

Whaaaaaat

@waterlubber Stop RPing me...

Journeyman Geek

@waterlubber: 10.1 inch 1280x800

Might be IPS, I'm not sure.

It isn't size or resolution, its pixel density!

Whaaaaaat

1:05 AM

I now declare open rebellion against Wesley Wolfe.

Journeyman Geek

who?

Whaaaaaat

One of the Bukkit developers.

The one who DMCAed his own team.

He just singlehandedly destroyed the server community AGAIN.

This is stupid. HIS Github was a fork of Bukkit's.

github.com/Wolvereness/Bukkit-Bleeding

hbdgaf

1:51 AM

I'm not entirely sure, just being a fork, makes it accurate that someone is trolling. Think: "Commit denied, same commit put in manually. We're making money. You're volunteering." Just saying, commit histories need to be read thoroughly before anyone passes judgement, and I don't have time to read the commit history on minecraft.

Whaaaaaat

meh.

I've given up.

hbdgaf

That's often the best course of action for interactions with things you don't control or understand.

Whaaaaaat

4:49 AM

1

Q: Why linux doesnt need 'refresh'?

What is the technical reason behind Linux doesn't need to refresh, some people say like that but they don't know reason. If that feature doesn't need : why Ubuntu has been added that feature under (F5)

VTC as unclear?

Seth

5:35 AM

That seriously got an upvote?

Whaaaaaat

5:57 AM

<3 you @Seth. You're better than Braiam.

Seth

lol

Whaaaaaat

@Seth I want to be you when I grow up. It's better than being like Braiam: he wanted to be like a mushroom's genetalia.

Seth

I am really not sure what to say to that lol ;p

Journeyman Geek

O O

Whaaaaaat

:D

Sector 12 of my AI is broken.

@Seth @JourneymanGeek I don't think this guy even has a wifi card:

0

Q: Unable to connect to any Wifi in Ubuntu 14.04

I have Ubuntu 14.04. I've tried connecting to the AT&T router in my apartment, but I cannot see the symbol. I've tried installing drivers for the WiFi Router from Additional driver but there no drivers in the list.

14.04 wifi-hardware-switch

(nevermind)

Seth

6:10 AM

sigh.

Going to bed now, it's late.

Whaaaaaat

stupid USPS. UPDATE MY PACKAGE TRACKING

Ask Ubuntu Meta

6:45 AM

-1

Q: 4k Reputation Bonus?

Can we add a 4k Reputation Bonus? Luis (in chat) mentioned something about a birthday calendar. My idea is that any 4k+ user that has a birthday gets a little cake by their name. It's good because: It's fun It's stupid It can be an easter egg It allows the community to celebrate a special day...

feature-request reputation privileges

Whaaaaaat

6:58 AM

Congratulations to @KasiyA for making the 2k mark!

Ask Ubuntu Meta

7:22 AM

0

Q: How do we differentiate between 12.04 and 12.04.5?

As far as I know, there is only one 12.04-related tag: 12.04. Also, 12.04 (by itself) EOLed on August 8, 2014. 12.04.5 EOLs in April 2017. As one is off-topic and the other is on-topic, how do we know the difference between the two? Do we just assume that it's 12.04.5? What do we do?

discussion end-of-life versions

user3297351

8:24 AM

Hi, I have Dell-Vostro-Inspiron-amd64 architecture-500 GB Laptop. Had two partitions with 270 GB for Windows 7 and remaining is unallocated. Made usb stick as bootable disk with ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso.

Hi, I have Dell-Vostro-amd64 architecture-500 GB Laptop. Had two partitions with 270 GB for Windows 7 and remaining is unallocated. Made usb stick as bootable disk with ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso. To install Ubutnu 14.04 on my machine, tried to install from usb stick while booting. It's always getting shuts down after select the language as "English". How to install Ubuntu on laptop, Windows 7 already exists. Any inputs?

Journeyman Geek

9:47 AM

hbdgaf

10:32 AM

@JourneymanGeek nice

muru

12:39 PM

It looks like someone has gone around downvoting every answer in askubuntu.com/questions/522267/…

hbdgaf

1:21 PM

Sounds like a homework problem anyway. Doesn't make me happy, but meh.

Journeyman Geek

1:38 PM

hmm

meta.superuser.com/questions/8482/is-hide-x-a-real-product this came up in our meta (@ AU mods)

terdon

@JourneymanGeek Strange. It does seem valid. They have answers that sound like the thing exists. I can't find it either though.

hbdgaf

@JourneymanGeek Check my response, I found it.

Pandya

Is automation is suitable for this question?

hbdgaf

@terdon ^^

terdon

@hbdgaf I don't think that's it. You found an app designed to do something or other to corpora. The OP seems to be using it to somehow work with zip files and there is no mention of WAM in the hidex documentation.

hbdgaf

1:50 PM

Guess I'm wrong then. Tried to find something...anything named hidex that was software.

@terdon Added that to the answer on MSU

terdon

@hbdgaf And your google-fu is stronger than mine, I didn't even find the github one.

hbdgaf

The FU is strong in this one ;)

terdon

What exactly is hidex? What does it do and where can I find it? — terdon 13 secs ago

Cheating, I know...

hbdgaf

@terdon That could be it. HideX seems like it's supposed to do some kind of language processing, so adding something to the HideX lib could be adding something to a speech corpus.

@Pandya hard limit to 5 tags, and the existing ones seem appropriate.

terdon

@hbdgaf Yes, that's what I thought. I just ran a quick search of the documentation (brilliant by the way, I need to find the README and go down to section 2 before getting an explanation of what the hell the software actually does) and there was no mention of "wam" which was in one of the answers. Hardly conclusive evidence.

hbdgaf

2:01 PM

It's totally inconclusive. I'm grepping the source for the menu-system the answer referenced.

Mateo

2:12 PM

@Whaaaaaat hrm, there is xrefresh in the command line...

not sure what he was talking about

hbdgaf

o/ @Mateo

Mateo

hi @hbdgaf

anything interesting

hbdgaf

So, I got the w3af GUI dockerized, got shared storage scripted, and added helper scripts to launch the console gui or application with one line.

Also, the house is cleaned, I have food cooked for about a week, and I did ALL the laundry... instead of just enough to make it through next week.

Mateo

you've been busy

hbdgaf

When I have more than "recovery time" off I get things done.

Mateo

2:19 PM

I was sick the last few days, so it was all recovering

hbdgaf

That's no fun. Was it con-flu from derbycon or just general illness?

Mateo

not sick enough to miss work, but getting better, some kind of thing going around - gives you some kind of fever but not a high temperature then a lot of congestion

hbdgaf

Yeah, there's something going around here too. I powered through it in a day and a half. There are people who have been exhibiting symptoms for almost a week though.

In other news, you have to wonder about a fellow that puts something on github called "the-backdoor-factory". No really, it's there.

Lucio

Happy day you devs!!!

hbdgaf

Hi @Lucio

Lucio

2:30 PM

hi andrew

I should go, just saying hi :)

have a great day!

Mateo

sweet, hope this works: appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=29975

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Is it possible to run binvox (or any X11 app) on a Linux server without display?

I am trying to run Binvox(http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~min/binvox/) via web server, on an Amazon EC2 server running Ubuntu 14.04. I am using the system(binvox, $ret) function call in my PHP script. However, Binvox uses an X11 window to display its processing, and thus fails to run. Same is the ca...

ubuntu ssh x11

hbdgaf

@Mateo I installed an old MSDNAA windows license on the older laptop. It's more powerful than the new one, but it's falling apart piece by piece... so installing windows seemed a philosophical statement. ;)

Journeyman Geek

lol

I need to play with xvfb at some point

hbdgaf

What are you trying to do with it? I've used it some.

Mateo

2:37 PM

well, it's that or play on my dad's computer - or try and steam stream, so I'm trying this first

Journeyman Geek

streaming steam is oddly painless

BUT you can't use the other computer at the same time

Mateo

@JourneymanGeek aw

hbdgaf

I say again, OnLive. If there's an android client, it can't be THAT hard to make a linux client or a steam plug-in.

Mateo

I don't usually buy windows games, but there is a special place in my heart for castelvania games

Journeyman Geek

@Mateo: I was playing with it on fedora 20/64 bit. It basically starts up the game in windowed mode, and you can't move it

hbdgaf

2:41 PM

Speaking of games, I think today is the gaming day of my vacation. Time to start up the paper weight.

I also think using LXC with video passthrough could let people do playonlinux on steroids.

So, it got a gold rating on 10.04, but it won't run now? We got you covered.

Journeyman Geek

You can't use a linux box as a stream server yet either :/

Mateo

@JourneymanGeek unless you are in the beta ;)

Journeyman Geek

which would be handy, but no ;p

I'm running it on a unsupported platform, on a third party repo anyway ;p

hbdgaf

There should really be more video streaming appliances. Just plug me in to your DVI cable. No hardware consumption, just inline video cloning.

Journeyman Geek

lol

hbdgaf

2:46 PM

ok later on people...

Mateo

►

Avinash Raj

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 27 mins ago, by Avinash Raj

I'm using firefox browser. Is there a way to get a notification sound when a question arrives under a particular tag?

Mateo

if you have a feed reader that makes a sound, just get the rss feed

ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499212

Avinash Raj

3:02 PM

sorry i don't know how to do that. Any link?

Mateo

and here is the rss for the boot tag: askubuntu.com/feeds/tag?tagnames=boot&sort=newest

to get go the the tag page scroll down to the bottom on the right is a orange symbol:

Avinash Raj

> Every 15mins it checks for new posts

Mateo

just an example there are way more rss readers out there

you can make a chat room that posts rss in it

it will take a few to get the first, but then is as instant as the meta feed in here:

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/17129/rss-test

ah, and you can enable the desktop notification in the browser, that might work

er, well, I guess only when you are pinged so maybe not

Awal Garg

3:34 PM

digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/…

guys that tut specifies two ways to add swap space

one is (traditional) slow, and the other fast.

Mateo

and...

Awal Garg

which one is recommended?

Seth

swap file != swap partition

Awal Garg

sure

@Seth so which one is better to get better performance?

(I mean, swap file or swap partition?)

Seth

Why are you even worried about swap?

Mateo

3:37 PM

do it the fast way.

Awal Garg

@Seth low ram (2 gigs) 64 bit pc, and system lags often.

Seth

well, I think I'd do it the fast way, personally.

I don't know anything about performance trade-offs though

Awal Garg

@Seth ok but I also want to ask should I create a partition for swap or go with swap file itself?

Mateo

looks like it was doing the same thing, just a different way

Awal Garg

@Mateo ok

Mateo

3:41 PM

@AwalGarg if this is a server on line I wouldn't mess with partitions

Awal Garg

@Mateo my local pc it is

Mateo

what Ubuntu are you using?

14.04

desktop/server?

desktop

3:42 PM

and you don't already have a swap partition?

Awal Garg

@Mateo nope. I unchecked it while installation since I didn't thought it would be required.

I am thinking of dedicating 4gigs space to swap since I have 2gigs ram.

Mateo

ah, ok. because they create one by default

Awal Garg

ok. I have also checked right now to confirm and I don't have any swap space on the PC, not file, not partition.

Seth

@AwalGarg swap file == fast way. swap partition == slow way.

Awal Garg

@Seth and there wouldn't be any performance difference between the two, right?

Mateo

3:46 PM

yeah, try a swap file and see if it does the trick

22

Q: swap partition vs file for performance?

What is better for performance? A partition closer to the inside of the disk will have slower access times, and we must wait for the drive to switch between the OS and swap partitions. On the other hand, a swap partition bypasses all of the filesystem allowing writes to the disk directly, which ...

linux windows swap pagefile virtual-memory

Awal Garg

ah nice

Mateo

the one says "identical performance"

Seth

@AwalGarg I wouldn't know, but it looks like there is a nice question on server fault :)

Awal Garg

right

so I would go with partition since I would be changing to ubuntu gnome's next release and then I can just reuse the same swap partition again.

Seth

That is one plus of the partition method, yes.

Awal Garg

3:51 PM

ok thanks for the help guys :)

cya laters!

JohnMerlino

4:08 PM

I didn't want to ask this question in main because it was propably asked before, but how do we put ubuntu desktop on power saving mode? And then how do we wake up from it? I have my computer on much of the day and I am not using it, and I would like to put it in some kind of power saving mode.

Awal Garg

4:20 PM

@Seth @Mateo hey I have created the swap partition and it seems to have put a positive effect but I want to know how to make it automatically activate it on boot?

ahh leave it. got it from an answer on the main site

thanks anyways :)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

5:08 PM

0

Q: USB hard drive becomes inaccessible until reboot after power outage

My home server has a USB hard drive plugged to it. Once in a while, the breakers jump or there are power outages. Since my server is a laptop, it keeps chugging along, but the rest of the hardware (network, periphericals) do a power cycle. My hard drive is set to auto-mount in fstab, but after a...

ubuntu mount fstab lubuntu

Takkat

5:37 PM

yay 50k on the site :)

Indrajith Indraprastham

0

Q: How to Mount Western Digital external hard drive

I am using Debian. I cannot mount Western Digital My Passport Ultra on my system. I have tried sudo mount /dev/sdbx /media/hdd. It worked fine for me. But the problem is that I have to repeat this process every time I restart my system. And it is hard for my friends to mount it on their Linux mac...

mount automounting

Seth

6:30 PM

@Takkat congratz!

Takkat

it feels becoming elderly... ;P

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

7:09 PM

0

Q: Why does the location of Enviroment Variables vary that much?

Reading the book Hacking: The Art of Exploitation by Jon Erickson, I am trying to approximate the address of an environment variable SHELLCODE to exploit a program. Every time I run getenv("SHELLCODE"); to get the location, the result is completely different. Extract from my shell: > for i in...

linux ubuntu environment-variables

Rinzwind

8:30 PM

@Takkat newbie

hbdgaf

11:54 PM

@Rinzwind hah... you make me smile sometimes.

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