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Thomas W.
Thomas W.
4:01 AM
@Seth lol @ broadcom assumption xD
@Seth fortunately that's NOT the issue xD
 
Seth
Seth
no kidding lol. I just guessed 'cause it was Dell.
@RPiAwesomeness yeah
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
dangit. I keep finishing up my new user post reviews right after they reset.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth Dell's Inspiron 15R Special Edition had an Intel card
and was all hardware-certified for 12.04
 
Seth
Seth
@RPiAwesomeness haha. That's so annoying.
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
which was a huge bargaining point for this laptop specifically being purchased :P
@Seth also your suggestion does not work :/
 
Seth
Seth
4:03 AM
:-/
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
I KNOW! Wish I had the 2K rep for some more of the review queues...
 
Seth
Seth
@ThomasW. Do you know how turning the wifi off works?
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth On this machine? No.
I'm still breaking it in :)
 
Seth
Seth
hmm
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth I'm still surprised that this happens on this system, none of the other systems I've used with similar cards has ever had this issue
@Seth and even from on to off, it does something that soft-blocks the wifi
and i have to rfkill unblock 0 (which is the consistently-the-same interface number) to unblock the wifi
(hardblock shows "yes" when disabled by switch)
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
4:07 AM
hmm...reading over this: askubuntu.com/questions/6263/…...
Might have to look into putting this on an iPad 1...
anyone have any idea if it would work?
or even be usable?
or legal
 
Seth
Seth
I don't know on all points.
@ThomasW. What interface is your wireless on?
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth "interface" as in the code that i put into ifconfig when referring to the interface?
wlan0
 
Seth
Seth
@ThomasW. yes
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth wlan0
oh god
 
Lucio
Lucio
?
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
4:20 AM
@Seth @Lucio guess who's here >.>
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
@ThomasW.'s is a-burnin
Oh god is right...
 
Seth
Seth
@ThomasW. in the room?
 
Lucio
Lucio
@ThomasW. :D
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth Yes.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
EEP!
/me is a plant! I'm gonna freaking die!
 
Seth
Seth
4:21 AM
@ThomasW. just ignore it.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
The un-mentionable OS has arrived
 
Seth
Seth
@ThomasW. Any idea where I could get the iwlwifi kernel module's source code?
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth no idea
 
Seth
Seth
hmmm
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
make sure to grab for the .... um...
@Seth how do I grab the kernel version
 
Seth
Seth
4:23 AM
uname -a
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
shouldn't intel drivers be in the kernel tree?
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@Seth Linux new-gallifrey 3.8.0-35-generic #50~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Dec 4 17:25:51 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@ThomasW.: just curious - why do you need it?
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
so I guess 3.8.0 kernels
 
Seth
Seth
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Q: When turning on/off wifi, wifi is "soft blocked", any way to automatically run `rfkill unblock`?

Thomas W.So, on this Dell Inspiron 7520, which is hardware-certified for 12.04, when I use the function keys to turn off/on the wifi, the wifi will "turn on" but be soft blocked. Running rfkill unblock [interfacenumber] does correctly unblock the device. Is there a way for the system to automatically ru...

12.04 wireless networking rfkill
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
4:24 AM
@JourneymanGeek ask @Seth, he needs the code for iwlwifi apparently
 
Seth
Seth
/me is researching.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
ahh right
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
@JourneymanGeek having said this I just want to automate the rfkill unblock process when I turn on the wifi with the hardware buttons
if possible.
 
Seth
Seth
I know how to do that, but the hard part is making the key block and unblock alternately
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
0
Q: Is the freezing bug fixed in 13.10?

user233009I used to have 12.04 which freezes at login. All I can do is hold down the power button. Is that pached in 13.10?

13.10
bit unclear...
No clue which bug (if any official bug) he is talking about...etc.
 
Seth
Seth
4:26 AM
well I gotta go for now.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
is missing the links to doing it on Linux and Ubuntu...just ping commented @Braiam...
 
Lucio
Lucio
@Seth me too
ciao
 
Seth
Seth
@ThomasW. Oh, got a CM to delete the answer. He wants our mods to handle the comments though, since it's calmed down.
 
Nathan Osman
Nathan Osman
 
Thomas W.
Thomas W.
4:49 AM
@Seth did they lock the post?
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
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Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
flagggggged
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
AMEN!
REALLY wish we could get Marriage banned as a term and possibly baba ji...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
babaji and vashikaran would be good terms
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
And those
Like someone said a while ago, ever seen a question: "Marriage Planning Software for Ubuntu?" cricket noise
Oh gosh. He's on other sites too. has yet to spam Ask Different.
Aaand...I'm getting sounds through my earbuds like the rats from the Mo'Creatures MC mod...whaaat....?
Aaand....this was protected...why?
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Q: No HDMI audio in 13.04

King84I have just upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04 and now everything works perfectly, except the fact that I have no audio via HDMI. I am using a Samsung tv-monitor connected via HDMI to my video card Asus EAH4670/DI/1GD3 (which has a Radeon HD 4670 gpu on it), installed phisically into my motherboard wh...

sound 13.04 hdmi
No upvotes...user solved it himself. Wierdness
 
 
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Ubuntu Questions on U&L
Ubuntu Questions on U&L
6:56 AM
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Q: Which library files are needed to run a binary with an alternate libc version?

NickI built Firefox 26 on Mint 16 because the Ubuntu 10.04 build utilities are too old to build it. It does need to run on 10.04, however, since that's the target OS I'm building for. It built and runs just fine on Mint 16. When moving the package over to 10.04 and attempting to run, I get errors be...

ubuntu compiling libraries firefox dependencies
 
 
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Avinash Raj
Avinash Raj
8:01 AM
is there anyone around
@Bruno r you there
 
 
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Avinash Raj
Avinash Raj
11:32 AM
@fossfreedom why my answer was deleted in askubuntu.com/questions/401330/…
 
fossfreedom
fossfreedom
@AvinashRaj let me look...
because you answered a question about how to install wine - whereas the user was specifically asking about installing itunes - the dupe explains that its a waste of time and pointing the OP in that direction.
 
Avinash Raj
Avinash Raj
see that question he was trying to install itunes "iTunesSetup.exe" which was an exe file.so i help him to install wine first and then double click on that exe file.
will make him to install itunes.
 
fossfreedom
fossfreedom
yes - he is installing itunes - and the dupe explains don't do it.
If you really have an answer that covers installing wine, configuring the various DLLs and stuff for the wine bottle and then covering itunes installation - that answer belongs on the dupe.
 
Avinash Raj
Avinash Raj
@fossfreedom thnx for your clarification.
 
fossfreedom
fossfreedom
11:55 AM
... spam killed in 6 seconds... :)
 
 
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jokerdino
jokerdino
1:16 PM
@Braiam Hm I see. Any idea how to work around it?
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
Hmmm...That Brask user has been posting duplicate responses as comments and as answers. I've seen several comments and answers by him that are exact duplicates of each-other...
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
1:37 PM
Big news everyone. CentOS joins hands with Red Hat.
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
Seriously?
Well
 
jrg
jrg
well, to put it into context, they didn't do that as much as they said "Standards bro!"
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
I don't think it is possible for RH to plant their employees and steer it for their benefit. :P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@jokerdino: I was under the impression centos was rhel
with nearly no non branding mods
 
jrg
jrg
@JourneymanGeek yes and no
yes, you are correct from a technical view
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
1:47 PM
@JourneymanGeek It really was. They rebranded RHEL but had no paid support.
 
jrg
jrg
no, it isn't. CentOS devs tend to not work for RH.
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
It was free.
 
jrg
jrg
(at least, not anymore)
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
@jrg The news is that, five of the devs started their day job at RH but not for RHEL.
 
jrg
jrg
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
1:47 PM
@jrg you mean not before
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
iirc its still free
 
jrg
jrg
Nuance. but yes.
Yes, and it forever shall be.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
they arn't locking repos behind a paywall, are they?
 
jrg
jrg
No.
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
@JourneymanGeek no
 
jrg
jrg
1:48 PM
hell has not frozen over.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
what this really means is that RH can keep pissing off oracle without screwing over centos ;p
 
jrg
jrg
Yup!
redhat.com/about/news/press-archive/2014/1/… | This press release is full of a unusually low amount of bs.
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
I think that really was the idea.
 
jrg
jrg
innovation is for fedora, enterprise is for RHEL, and centos is for everyone else who is too cheap actually has to stay inside a budget.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
 
jrg
jrg
1:51 PM
explain to me how my logic is flawed.
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
In every sense of the word cheap?
 
jrg
jrg
we priced RHEL. ouch.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@jokerdino: pretty much ;p
 
Aditya
Aditya
Guys, anyone know how to apply patches to upstream linux kernel? Need some hand-holding to troubleshoot a bug related to bluetooth...
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
ooo...bugs. No fun
 
Braiam
Braiam
2:04 PM
@Aditya do you have the patch?
 
Aditya
Aditya
patch is available... git repo is updated... but need some hand-holding from someone who has done this before...
@Braiam yes
Let me give you a brief summary..
 
Braiam
Braiam
I mean, you have a patch file?
 
Ask Ubuntu Meta
Ask Ubuntu Meta
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Q: IMPORTANT someone hacked my account, reverse anything made by me!

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discussion support
 
Aditya
Aditya
@Braiam Yes.. it is available here: bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60824#c6
 
RPi Awesomeness
RPi Awesomeness
Wha....
Being hacked is never fun
 
Braiam
Braiam
2:07 PM
253
A: How to apply `git diff` patch without Git installed?

Andrey Kouznetsovgit diff > patchfile and patch -p1 < patchfile work but as many people noticed in comments and other answers patch does not understand adds, deletes and renames. There is no option but git apply patchfile if you need handle file adds, deletes and renames.

 
Alvar
Alvar
it should be impossible to just use a 4 digit password..
 
Braiam
Braiam
you don't need git..
@AskUbuntuMeta btw, 4 chars is not allowed by any of SE or openid...
 
Aditya
Aditya
@Braiam I have the repo updated... but let me go through that SO question..
 
Braiam
Braiam
I doubt he was hacked still posting stupid questions..
 
Aditya
Aditya
I actually need some hand-holding... compiling the kernel takes way too-much time on my machine and I often find myself in a situation that after getting it compiled and installing the debs, my system refuses to boot... Moreover, it generates deb files which are more than 750MB...
@Braiam: Have you ever applied the patches before?
 
Braiam
Braiam
2:11 PM
let me put this way, you have this and the sources tree...
@Aditya of course, not to the kernel tho... (never in the need to)
if you do ls include/net/bluetooth/bluetooth.h and it returns ok, then you are in the right place
 
Aditya
Aditya
yes.. by sources tree i mean I have an updated git repo of git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
 
Braiam
Braiam
then the only thing is doing patch -p1 < patchfile and done
you want to apply to the git repo?
is the same...
 
Aditya
Aditya
@Braiam won't i need to change branches and stuff like that..
 
Braiam
Braiam
nope...
why?
 
Aditya
Aditya
the patch was made about 3 months ago... and the repo is updated till today..
 
jrg
jrg
2:13 PM
git is smart
git doesn't just keep track of files
when properly done, git will keep track of methods and individual code chunks, even as they migrate across the files.
 
Braiam
Braiam
> What is preventing the patch to be merged? Without this, the Bluetooth dongle doesn't work.
the patch seems not being merged in the sources
 
Aditya
Aditya
yes... the patch hasn't been merged as of yet
I don't know why... but i have this fear that the next 3-4 hours are going to be wasted
 
Braiam
Braiam
just put yourself in the source tree, then do patch -p1 < patchfile and done...
 
Aditya
Aditya
@Braiam ok.. then let me try it
$ patch -p1 < ~/Desktop/bluetooth.patch

patching file include/net/bluetooth/bluetooth.h
Hunk #1 succeeded at 273 (offset 8 lines).
patching file include/net/bluetooth/hci_core.h
Hunk #1 succeeded at 1030 (offset -54 lines).
patching file net/bluetooth/hci_core.c
Hunk #1 succeeded at 726 (offset 581 lines).
Hunk #2 succeeded at 1267 (offset 661 lines).
Hunk #3 succeeded at 3414 (offset 740 lines).
Hunk #4 succeeded at 3439 (offset 740 lines).
Hunk #5 succeeded at 3447 (offset 740 lines).
Hunk #6 succeeded at 4165 (offset 734 lines).
 
Braiam
Braiam
@Aditya the patch should looks like this
yeah, that's fine...
 
Aditya
Aditya
2:18 PM
Is it done?
 
jrg
jrg
yup.
 
Braiam
Braiam
yup
 
Aditya
Aditya
wow
 
jrg
jrg
now do your make, make install and all that fun stuff.
 
Aditya
Aditya
ok.. feeling excited
 
Braiam
Braiam
2:19 PM
@jrg make deb!
is the kernel D:
 
jrg
jrg
oh yes, checkinstall
use checkinstall
don't use make install, use checkinstall. just... otherwise problems happen.
 
Aditya
Aditya
@Braiam but my deb files generated are about 750 MB... is that normal?
 
jrg
jrg
yup
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg ??? any guide on the internet
 
Braiam
Braiam
@Aditya yeah...
 
jrg
jrg
2:20 PM
it isn't a optimized kernel.
 
Braiam
Braiam
 
jrg
jrg
the debian docs are probably better
 
Aditya
Aditya
thank you guys... but then why are the kernel updates that we get from Ubuntu are only about 60 MB if 750 MB is normal when we compile ourselves?
 
jrg
jrg
because ubuntu splits things out into individual packages and kernel module packages
whereas that just lumped them all together
ubuntu doesn't install the entire git.kernel.org/linus codebase
 
Aditya
Aditya
that went over my head.. :)
 
jrg
jrg
2:23 PM
what you just did
is you made a .deb of the entire kernel
everything.
but the kernel is made up of many smaller parts
and ubuntu (and most linux distros) split the smaller parts out
because not everyone needs them
for example, my netbook didn't have bluetooth. it didn't install the bluetooth modules by default.
 
Braiam
Braiam
@Aditya make sure that with the make xconfig you select all the modules you need ;)
 
jrg
jrg
or my netbook didn't have a backlight keyboard. kernel modules weren't loaded.
whereas you are install EVERYTHING.
 
Aditya
Aditya
@Braiam Let me introduce myself... I am a complete newbie and this is the first bug in Ubuntu which I am trying to troubleshoot... I just don't know much about these stuff... :)
@jrg: I think I am understanding things...
But then.... the updates for kernel given by ubuntu - are they different and optimized for all the sections of users
 
jrg
jrg
Yes.
 
Braiam
Braiam
@Aditya if you are unsure what options to tweak try this serverfault.com/a/51059/180142
 
Aditya
Aditya
2:27 PM
@jrg a rough guess of how many sections/groups of users?
 
jrg
jrg
@Aditya lots.
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg I mean there are 1000s of combinations.... there must be some limit.... any idea about it or a range which you think should be right..
 
jrg
jrg
@Aditya Virtually infinite combinations
let me sketch something, and upload it
so it'll make sense
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg hehe..
 
jrg
jrg
nope, i can't sketch worth a damn.
basically, the system says "Oh, you have bluetooth. that means you need to install kernel-bluetooth" (or whatever)
 
Aditya
Aditya
2:31 PM
@Braiam i have got a lot of links to read... would surely go through it as well... thanks :)
 
jrg
jrg
or it says "Oh, you haz broadcom. install alsdkjflkasdjfklj-broadcom"
but it doesn't install broadcom, intel, nvidia, realtek, ralink, and all the other ones by default.
BUT, what you just did was make a package that wasn't split up into a bajillion little pieces.
so that's why it's so big.
 
Aditya
Aditya
but the kernel-updates come as 4-5 deb files consolidated... does ubuntu consolidate it on server-side and only includes the modules appropriate for my system - ie; for every user?
 
jrg
jrg
no.
only some portions of the "kernel" get updated
so there is mainline kernel - that's the core.
and then there are kernel extensions, which is what most people think of when they think "Linux Kernel"
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg mainline kernel is what is available at kernel.org... isn't it? just a name which indicates that the original source is Linus Torvalds and not modified by someone else...
 
jrg
jrg
@Aditya it's even more specific than that.
it's a specific subset of the stuff from kernel.org
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
2:37 PM
What do you guys see at this link? -- html2markdown.com
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg okay... i would need to do a bit of reading on this stuff to understand this properly.. :-)
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
I get some Thai development site.
 
jrg
jrg
a stock photo of a baby
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
OK. For a sec, I was scared my DNS is poisoned.
 
Braiam
Braiam
@jokerdino parking
 
jrg
jrg
2:38 PM
it's a 404 page of a stock baby photo in Thai.
 
blade19899
blade19899
huh
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg @jokerdino @Braiam what are you all guys saying...
 
jrg
jrg
@jokerdino but it actually returns a 403 forbidden, not a 404.
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
I need a converter. :/
 
jrg
jrg
same thing
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
2:39 PM
yay
 
jrg
jrg
same people
 
blade19899
blade19899
Windows 8....
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg It's available for me..
 
blade19899
blade19899
user image
2
 
jrg
jrg
@Aditya Do you get the markdown converter?
 
blade19899
blade19899
2:41 PM
Too scary...
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg yes.. let me take a screenshot
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
Are you not on Linux @Aditya?
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jokerdino i am using ubuntu
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
I am on Fedora, Braiam on Debian and guess jrg on Windows 8.
 
jrg
jrg
Nope. Ubuntu.
 
Aditya
Aditya
2:43 PM
 
jrg
jrg
I finally finished the windows8 project @ work.
@Aditya guess that means it's still working its way through the internet.
 
Aditya
Aditya
@jrg doesn't a hard refresh work for you guys..
 
jrg
jrg
@Aditya nope.
 
Alvar
Alvar
@jokerdino im on windows 7
 
blade19899
blade19899
Ubuntu 13.10. And when Trusty thar is out, I will be sticking with it, till the next LTS
 
jrg
jrg
2:53 PM
I said that with 12.04. Didn't happen. :P
 
jokerdino
jokerdino
That's a brutal decision.
 
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