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12:00 AM
@Seth But you had to give them several information about you
to give that license
 
@Lucio At this point I don't remember what you need to give.
It might be as easy as having a LIVE account..
 
But yes me, I'm watching right now the form, and I don't like at all.
 
OK then.
Like I said, I don't remember...
 
Yeah, was just wandering..
 
But that's the way it is to develop apps for pretty much every platform.. If you do it the right way.
 
12:03 AM
@Seth I know
But there is also other options, PHP, Python, JS, Ruby, C++ and I can keep going..
 
True enough. But then you wouldn't be using Microsoft tools, so why would they care?
 
@Seth exactly :)
 
@jrg Still here?
BTW, it was the Battle of Lützen in 1632.
 
I'm talking about this sad story because I'm student. And as a student I'm forced to approve some Programming 3 and Laboratory 3. So I have no choice, only options..
 
Might want to migrate this:
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Q: How does feedingbottle work?

Yousaf EhsanI am network administrator and I am always worried about network security as I know people use different techniques of hacking to penetrate wireless and wired networks. Recently I came to know about software Feedingbottle which can hack WEP on finger tips you don't even have to know anything abou...

@Lucio I see.
 
12:14 AM
@Seth Are you a teacher in codeacademy?
 
No.. But someday I would like to be :)
I don't actually know as much as you think.
But I have symlinked by brain to Google ;)
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@Seth Uh, that is useful :P
 
What is?
 
@Seth Try this one (python) :D
 
That's in Spanish ;)
My Spanish isn't too good.
I'll get there eventually though :)
 
12:23 AM
It's fun
@Seth great!
 
I bet :D
 
I didn't thought that the site was available in different languages
cool
 
Yep.. It is.
 
\o/ -> Dinner time
cya!!!
 
Cya!
 
jrg
12:30 AM
@Seth yup
 
Do you want to migrate that?
 
jrg
migrate...?
oh, i see
 
Yeah.
Little too broad for here.
 
jrg
asked in The DMZ, i think the answer will be "no".
at least, not in its current form.
 
Want me to edit it up?
 
jrg
12:47 AM
or any form. it's just a broad question.
 
@Seth Is it really possible to edit that and be reasonably sure to stay loyal to what the OP wants to ask? The OP explicitly wanted the question here. (That doesn't mean I disagree with our having closed it.)
 
@EliahKagan Yes I think I could.
I know the OP wanted to ask here, but it's just not a good fit.
 
jrg
@Seth check The DMZ
 
@jrg I'm there.
 
jrg
oh, i see
 
1:04 AM
@EliahKagan Do you have a pro-forma for Ubuntu+1?
I don't and this needs one:
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Q: Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail Macbook Pro 8,3 wont boot after upgrade

Tahnoon PashaHi just invested in a 17" MBP before they disappear forever as a desktop replacement. Want to use Ubuntu as my primary OS, and have been trying to install 13.04. It installs fine off a dvd and boots up. when I run the first upgrade the kernel updates to 3.8..4 from 3.8..2 and I get a black screen...

 
@Seth Yes, I do. I've posted it.
While this (like most questions about problems with upcoming releases of Ubuntu) is considered off-topic here, fortunately there are many other help resources you can use for help with this. See There's an issue with an Alpha/Beta Release of Ubuntu, what should I do?. — Eliah Kagan 10 secs ago
 
Thanks.
Looks good to me. Maybe we should get it into the script.
 
jrg
@Seth let me know when you've edited to work.
 
@jrg OK. I'm almost done with what I'm doing right now.
I'll get to it ASAP.
 
jrg
ok
no rush.
 
1:26 AM
> I am network administrator and I am always worried about network security as I know people use different techniques of hacking to penetrate wireless and wired networks. Recently I came to know about software Feedingbottle which can hack WEP on finger tips; you don't even have to know anything about networking and hacking as its just a simple GUI.

I am interested in knowing how this works and what we can do to avoid this. I'm also interested in knowing if there are any other tools available that can do this.
How does that (--^) look? @jrg @EliahKagan?
 
jrg
sure.
that looks ok.
 
You have to take the whole thing with a grain of salt, I'm not trying to correct any of the OP's inaccuracies, just preserve his thought in plain english.
@jrg Okay applying...
 
Immunity has made a handheld idiot gui for wireless pwnage for a long time...
 
use wpa2?
 
There we go.
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Q: How can I prevent the hacking of my wired and wireless networks by tools like feedingbottle?

Yousaf EhsanI am network administrator and I am always worried about network security as I know people use different techniques of hacking to penetrate wireless and wired networks. Recently I came to about software called Feedingbottle which can hack WEP on finger tips; you don't even have to know anything...

 
1:30 AM
@mateo_salta use wpa enterprise properly
Check how simple that GUI is: immunityinc.com/products-silica.shtml
 
that and not broadcasting network name
 
that's a fallacy
not broadcasting the network name means they just have to wait for a single client to be active and evil twins will be preferred because they're broadcasting available unless you have a wips to DoS the rogue AP
 
@mateo_salta Yeah, hidden networks are good.
 
@Seth That looks good to me.
 
well, at least someone that is just messing around with cracking a password...
 
1:35 AM
unicode character in the password also a pain...just saying, unicode symbol smack in the middle annihillates most dictionaries
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Hey... That's something I've never thought about..
And write your password in Cyrillic.
 
plan b: don't use wireless
 
jrg
typing them cross-platform is a royal pain in the rear though.
 
@jrg pasting them isn't
 
jrg
fair enough.
 
2:18 AM
@GeorgeEdison woah, there was something similar for Dreamweaver for Macs a while back, where it launched the browsers with all access (which you could launch any app as a "browser" basically) used it to play the built in chess at school.
 
ah man, some one is serial up-voting me... unless this is a coordinated attack by multiple users to get me to 3,000. (one more point)
 
Here is a tag wiki you can edit anyway:
 
sansa fuse is nice, I haven't heard about the clip
 
I haven't heard good things about the clip...
 
except for the oled screens on the fuse burn out fast, salvaged my dad's and replaced the screen (he was going throw it out)
 
2:47 AM
OLED screen? That's interesting.
I have a zune myself.
Finally got my answer here updated... That took a while.
Had some technical difficulties as well.
 
@Seth yeah, it looks awesome - but doesn't last as long, they may have improved recently
 
@mateo_salta I see... I know Samsung uses Super AMOLED screens themselves..
BTW I'm still hoping someone will add another answer or two to that question. There are still quite a few methods that aren't represented.
 
maybe xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu specific ones? (screens and all)
 
That would be good, though I don't think the methods would differ too much from Luis' answer..
 
hm, I guess it's not about key shortcuts really
 
3:00 AM
No not quite that.
oops. Don't know how "Ah" got on that..
 
do we have a canonical for custom keyboard shortcut making?
 
I don't understand what you mean...
For creating keyboard shortcuts?
 
like press alt+ctrl+? to make a shortcut to a program
I think I answered some like that...
 
Uh.. this question?
 
oh, kind of like this, but more general, askubuntu.com/questions/138629/…
 
3:06 AM
Nice answer.
Close votes to review :P
2 mins ago, by Seth
Uh.. this question?
 
well, "I want some to run commands" might be enough to look into some of that for the different desktops, I'll look into it.
 
I'm sorry... I really don't understand where you are going with this...
 
I originally took it as mostly remapping keys..
 
I was trying to make a canonical question for that right there.
@mateo_salta Ah, but that's what creating custom shortcut is ;)
 
cool. looks like I have some answer making to do later.
 
3:09 AM
Remapping keys. Though my answer covers running commands... I'm sure there are other ways of doing it to.
@mateo_salta Greet thanks!
 
@Seth oh, I see...
laughs maniacally
ok back to being serious, see you later
 
@mateo_salta later.
 
3:27 AM
@Seth, out of curiosity, were you around when the big spam attack on the 17th hit?
 
@InkBlend Hmm.. the 17th.
I know I missed the biggest one that hit.
 
The Sunday before last.
 
So probably not.
@InkBlend Yeah. I don't think I was there.
Wish I had been.
 
I just wanted to know if you had ever seen anything like it before.
I wasn't there myself, but, judging by the chat transcripts (and a few questions on Meta), it was huge.
 
Oh, I've seen a lot of the spam.. I have 107 helpful spam flags, but I've never seen anything that big. It was huge! And lasted all day.
A mod took that.
You've probably seen it already.
 
3:31 AM
@maggotbrain and I were there for part of it.
 
Has anything like that ever happened before, or is this a first?
 
We've had spam before... Nothing like that though.
 
Just saw the screenshot. Yikes.
 
Looks like this spam start January 24 and has slowly built up.
Recently actions have been taken against it though, and we're blocked a whole lot before it ever made it in.
 
wut?
oh. yeah. That was fun.
I've got about 160 spam flags thanks to that.
 
3:37 AM
Wow.
That's a lot.
 
Well, after those few days.
SPAM: It really brings a community together. ;-)
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Yes it does.
 
I'm only half joking. It would've been sort of a sad reflection on the community participation if that stuff lingered here for hours.
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It has before..
 
@EliahKagan You there?
 
3:41 AM
@Seth When? In the last few months?
 
@maggotbrain Yeah.
 
hmm.
 
@maggotbrain nice wiki tags you made recently
 
 
@LuisAlvarado oh. Thanks. I'm just glad to see them approved quickly today. Instead of me left wondering if they were useful.
 
3:44 AM
@maggotbrain was on top of those today. You made several.
And Seth also got some pretty good ones that I wanted to do but he took them... FROM ME!
 
Inspiration. ;-) I may try and continue tomorrow. I found a query on data.stackexchange that helped me focus
 
Can you provide the query here?
 
@LuisAlvarado :O
 
That was just a jumping off point that got me digging a bit further.
 
o_O
 
3:48 AM
Off topic, could someone explain to me how comment flags "accumulate"?
 
Context?
 
The more comment flags a comment has the more have accumulated.
Depending on what the flag is
A certain number of flags will soft-delete the comment.
 
I noticed that I gradually gain more as my flags get accepted, but not on a one-to-one basis like for question/answer flags.
No, not like that, I mean how many flags I have left.
 
@InkBlend Oh that accumulation. Yeah, the more helpful flags you have the more you get.
@LuisAlvarado ROTFL
 
3:50 AM
Weirder and Weirder this Captcha keywords become.. As if something or someone was trying to tell me something
 
Inspect element is awesome.
 
Again, I noticed that, after my flags get accepted/rejected, I sometimes have more then before, and sometimes not.
 
That spam blitz helped me along in my quest for 500 helpful flags. Just ~70 more to go. :-)
 
 
@Seth This is why you log into data.SE
 
3:52 AM
Yep.
@InkBlend It also depends on how many you've flagged that day and how many have already been reviewed.
I don't know all the details behind it though.
 
@LuisAlvarado There are actually 2 queries: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/104524/… They both look the same, but they seem to accurately pull from AU tags only. I'm not sure quite how since I haven't spent much time with them.
I don't know if it would be helpful to fork one of them and put it under the AU queries or not
 
@maggotbrain the first one you gave me, got me an idea
it also rocked finding the tags like that
 
Much better, don't you think?
 
@LuisAlvarado What are you thinking?
 
Okay I'm done. goes and sits in bad jokes corner
 
3:57 AM
@Seth That got me an idea.
 
@FEichinger Oh?
I find the blue rather annoying.
 
taking over the world with boring lectures, but apart from that, a mix of a query that can do the same on AU
 
@Seth Just wait ... And see if I end up actually finishing it.
 
@FEichinger sigh I'll try..
 
doobeedoobeedoo...
Okay, about half way through getting the u1rest bzr thing from launchpad reworked in to a form I want to use it in \o/
 
4:04 AM
@LuisAlvarado Sorry, wasn't here. I am now, for a short time.
 
Photo:   When I earn a badge on http://DBA.StackExchange.com, but it’s the SQL Server 2000 badge http://tmblr.co/ZeZoUyhAk_fP
random
 
Well night all.
 
I dig that oneboxing...
Night @Seth
 
@LuisAlvarado If it relates to that answer of yours, you might just want to remove the second part but keep the first part about remounting. I say this because that answer is likely useful to a lot of people in spite of its 0 score--it has a lot of helpfuls, in the anonymous and low rep stats.
 
@EliahKagan NVM, it was about the last comment
 
4:08 AM
@LuisAlvarado Oh.
 
yeah, I went ahead a removed it
 
What comment?
(brb)
 
it was a crazy idea
the one about chmod 000
I answered that maybe, just maybe, I was smoking something that day
 
@LuisAlvarado Oh yeah, I saw that. I figured you just meant that you thought the chmod 000 thing was a mistake.
That answer got 23 "helpful" evaluations from unregistered users (coming in 4th in the underrated category), and my guess was that the helpful part was the remounting advice at the beginning. You might consider editing it to remove (or change) the chmod part, but leave the mount part.
Of course, you're free to choose to leave your answer deleted, if you wish. :)
 
@LuisAlvarado FWIW, I forked that over to AU data space. data.stackexchange.com/ubuntu/query/105103/…
 
 
2 hours later…
6:34 AM
We've got a touch o' spam if anyone is around.
 
flaaaaaaaaged
 
 
3 hours later…
9:48 AM
Thank god they didn't go for a rolling release ... I just wasted an entire work hour on fixing up my system because of some obscure errors triggered from Unity as it looks.
 
:) I gave up standard releases a long time ago - next upgrade 14.04.2
 
I'm so tempted to stop using interim releases on my office computer.
 
I prefer doing real stuff rather than just fighting the O/S.
 
Yea until now I had no problem but yea, I generally agree with that.
 
real men don't roll ;)
Hi btw
 
10:01 AM
o/
Absorbers bothering you?
 
Absorbers dwell in /dev/null - I am on vacation \o/
 
Awesome! :)
 
Spring vacation I thought but it's still winter here :"(
 
Yea, same here. We have 20cm of snow right now and at least 30cm more expected.
 
We're about to travel north. I bet its even worse there... sighs
 
10:09 AM
I guess so.
 
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Q: cgroups: blkio.weight doesn't seem to have the expected effect

David ParksI've got 2 LXC containers with these cgroup settings: lxc.blkio.weight = 200 lxc.blkio.cpu.shares = 200 and lxc.blkio.weight = 800 lxc.blkio.cpu.shares = 800 I have verified in /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio/lxc/test1-lxccontainer/blkio.weight is indeed set to 200 on the host OS. I have verified that...

 
 
2 hours later…
12:05 PM
... shame ... after 232 upvotes! my answer finally turns CW. No more rep! askubuntu.com/questions/55848/…
 
Heh...I'm not sure that merits a complaint.
 
not complaining ... just surprised the answer went that long with that many votes!
 
It speaks to the need for Oracle to put some effort in to getting in to partner imo.
 
you may be just praying for a miracle for that to happen.
 
I realize that would be a miracle, but you only need three to be a saint.
 
12:10 PM
:)
 
I used to use (and contributed to) the OAB script on Github
 
/me waves
 
Answers a question here on AU about a VLC plug-in not working. The referenced blog says "Oh, it works now. Okay submit a pull request." I do. No comment on the pull request. :(
 
how long were you waiting for the acceptance of the pull request?
 
jrg
12:25 PM
securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/41605252583/… | finally, a movie i've seen on security reactions.
 
not long. just an "I'm looking at it" comment could be nice
@jrg I love that movie
 
the best movies ... all before you were born @jrg ;)
 
12:29 PM
Also, I almost have that "manage a config file on U1 with stand-alone python" sorted out. It needs to be platform agnostic, so I'm having to rip out the gnome keyring bits for key storage and slim down used libraries (static python compilation for mobiles and windows with all the deps built-in).
 
jrg
high5.
 
Hello @jrg
 
@jrg ty. @jokerd was wanting to be able to use it for UTT when it's done.
 
jrg
oh crud, @smartboyhw is here. /me leaves. ;P
 
making things reusable is harder than making things work
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12:34 PM
@jrg NO
@jrg Why do you have to leave!?
 
Also, I think the oauth2 library on Ubuntu should have a Ubuntu-one auth client (even though it's just generic oauth to login.ubuntu.com) as a built-in in oauth2/clients. Just saying, that's how I would do it (did it).

from oauth2.clients import uoneauth
consumer, token = uoneauth.get_token(email, pass, descr)

Just saying
 
jrg
12:48 PM
@smartboyhw leaving for work in a minute.
 
last one then i'm off for a while: phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMwMzE wayland being ported to bsd WOOOO
 
1:06 PM
@jrg Ok:)
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing does wayland have any users yet?
 
@DanHulme not as far as i know (or not many beyond ultra-edgers). it was just an argument that was made against BSD for future productivity as a desktop/OS with X
 
I see.
 
1:29 PM
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Q: Video-/podcasting setup on Ubuntu

dinchamionme and a few friends are gearing up to do a video- & podcast, and I was wondering if anyone had tips as to what software to use... I run 12.04 and am responsible for recording, editing and publishing the thing. We have our website, powered by Wordpress, so my question is really about the prod...

 
jrg
2:21 PM
@AbrahamVanHelpsing AHHH YEAH MOVING TO BSD!
 
2:37 PM
@Seth Ah man, that comment with the shortened link, I put a + at the end to find out what it leads too, and it is a "let me google it for you" link, totally useless...
 
ooo
 
yikes
 
deleted.
 
thank you @jokerdino
 
thank you.
 
2:49 PM
@jokerdino is this considered spam? askubuntu.com/a/273074/10698
it's just flaming..
shouldn't even be a comment..
 
@Alvar Good one:P
 
not spammy enough.
 
@smartboyhw ?
@jokerdino ok...
 
@Alvar I saw Stack Exchange being offline:P
 
oh, the website is down
 
2:54 PM
Stack Exchange is currently offline, we'll be back shortly!
:(
 
jrg
We are starting out DB cutover, we expect this outage to last about a minute. #stackoverflow and #stackexchange will be right back
and we're back
 
3:20 PM
whew, I tacked all the bit.ly links, now to find other shortening services, maybe a meta post for shortened cleanup?
yep, there is 2 pages of "goo.gl"
 
whoa.
yeah, put it on meta please. and thank you.
 
This one: askubuntu.com/questions/274081/… just needs to be more clear so it can get dupe closed to the right question
user image
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hm, where is the torrent link for raring?
 
daily builds don't get torrent links since they'ld be useless anyway
 
@mateo_salta Yeeks.
 
3:32 PM
@AbrahamVanHelpsing makes sense.
relying on zsync then
 
3:48 PM
Gotta handle ...
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Q: Troubleshooting a non responsive computer

PaulIt has happened on a few occasions now that my computer has over night become non-responsive. By that I mean, turning on the computer screen shows nothing (it goes back to sleep) and trying to ssh into the system is useless as the session just times out. The computer is always on and has not turn...

Can we get a better tag for that?
All I could come up with was ..
 
delete the question? :P
 
Well you could do that..
You can close this as TL:
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Q: IO error config file couldn't be found

anttiI got that title one after installing and trying to run rest2web, it also said couldn't find "r2w.ini". So what should I do now ? Thank you

 
18 views in 9 months. it shall go
 
This one too:
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Q: What are the most up-to-date instructions on setting up sql-ledger?

hydroparadiseI am looking for most up-to-date set of instructions for setting up sql-ledger on ubuntu 12.04. I just happen to be running the Ubuntu-Studio, but I don't think there should be be any real differences. Thanks

And this one:
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Q: Can I somehow run "dwww" using lampp?

Curious Apprenticedwww generally installs apache2 as its dependency. I want to know is it possible to Install dwww on Ubuntu 11.10 without apache2 and can I use it using lampp ?

 
i cant act on any of these because the OP has some rep on it.
i only burn posts from 1 rep.
 
4:00 PM
You can close them can't you..?
 
let the community do it? mods are evil and tyrants.
 
Should I finish clearing out ?
 
you can always leave some questions untagged.
dont let it bother you. :)
 
Oli
@Seth Just to be clear, abandoned and unanswered are not the same thing. You shouldn't treat questions without answers or comments as evil. Abandoned questions are ones that have attempted triage but the OP never came back to update their question to answer questions.
 
@Oli right.
So I guess only one of those really qualifies...
 
4:06 PM
appears
does anyone know of a way to arrange pics in a mosaic with space in beetween
 
CSS
Sorta.
 
for printing
Now :|
 
ok here we go -
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Q: Shortened link Cleanup time!

mateo_saltaI have noticed the use of shortened links like bit.ly, and goo.gl have increased, for a variety of reasons it is not acceptable to use these links in Ask Ubuntu, here is the question on discussing shortened link services: How to deal with masked shortened-urls? Reasons for cleaning these link...

 
Might want to get a mod to tag that
 
yeah, goo.gl will take some time...
It looks like there are some "auto preview" plugins - so you can find the real link faster might help.
 
4:12 PM
@Seth sleep or hibernate might fit
 
chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/8703604#8703604 @oil @jokerdino @fossfreedom @ - any other mods around?
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing done.
@mateo_salta Uh.. I'm not a mod..
 
I replied to your comment...
 
@mateo_salta o/
 
He's @jrg's even younger alter-ego ;) jk
 
4:13 PM
oh, I see.
 
there we go
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing /kick
 
thank you @fossfreedom , I'll try and tackle some more after lunch
 
I finished tinyurl.
There were just two.
 
@Seth nice so they banned it in as well!
probably some left behind from before they did that
 
4:21 PM
Yup.
I wish we got more than 40 votes..
I keep running out.
 
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Q: Shortened link Cleanup time!

mateo_saltaI have noticed the use of shortened links like bit.ly, and goo.gl have increased, for a variety of reasons it is not acceptable to use these links in Ask Ubuntu, here is the question on discussing shortened link services: How to deal with masked shortened-urls? Reasons for cleaning these link...

 
4:56 PM
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Q: Can I automatically deactivate my touchpad when a USB-mouse is connected?

mooseI know that I can check if the touchpad is active with gconftool-2 --get /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled and I can set it disabled / enabled with gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true With lsusb I can see all connect...

That could really use an update.
Also, here goes this guy again:
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Q: How do I automatically set my touchpad to turn off when an external mouse is used?

JasonI need a way to automaticallay turn the touchpad off when an external pointing device is in use. I tried setting "turn off touchpad while typing" in System Settings, but that didn't work. A slight caveat is that I use both bluetooth and USB pointing devices, so perferably a solution would be ...

Should I rewrite the revision too?
I removed his swearing anyway.
 
@Seth Is it the "must also apply to bluetooth so the usb something-fish answer doesn't apply" guy?
 
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Yeah.. That guy.
 
Is the edit title "cussing at people really makes them want to help you"?
 
I know I know..
 
Heh. The real answer is a gui for udev rules, but it doesn't exist yet
 
4:59 PM
That's people for you.
@AbrahamVanHelpsing @GeorgeEdison
(jk.. sorta)
 
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