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8:02 PM

lol I would be happy if anyone says that he successfully went from one windows version to higher with "Working" system after done :P

rlemon

@Oli I went from 11.10 to [|b|r|i|c|k|] to 11.10 to [|b|r|i|c|k|] to 11.10 All in an hour and a half! does that count?!?!

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo I just deployed an instance of Mediawiki. :)

Stefano Palazzo

nice :) I'll try it

Octavian Damiean

The initial bootstrap still takes a bit but that is ok.

Jorge Castro

yeah

it caches all that

Octavian Damiean

8:06 PM

Yea.

Jorge Castro

after the first time it's fast

and on ec2 it hits the ec2 mirror so it's not so bad.

George Edison

Gotta run now...

I'll read the review later.

Stefano Palazzo

looks like I have to reboot as well

Octavian Damiean

Dude ... this is so impressive. Every time I deploy a service I'm stunned.

rlemon

should it take this long to load???

Octavian Damiean

8:08 PM

Don't know, depends on many things.

wisemonkey

exactly

rlemon

the number of . has doubled since I took that picture

anyone have any experience with UNetBootin (this is my first time using it)

maybe I have done something very wrong and am unaware

wisemonkey

thats a good sign rather than having . stay at same place :P

rlemon

well yea, lol.

Stefano Palazzo

the initial bootstrap took about 5 seconds @OctavianDamiean

rlemon

8:10 PM

but I have been stuck in a few endless processing loops

always with the high hopes that if I keep waiting just a bit longer it will finish.

wisemonkey

fun ain't it?

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo I didn't mean bootstrap but service deployment, sorry. :)

wisemonkey

the worst was when I installed Ubuntu over LAN one one machine :-/

Stefano Palazzo

I see

rlemon

ahh, and I only have one monitor and a KVM switch..

so I keep having to go back and fourth between this pc and the test rig

wisemonkey

8:12 PM

@MarcoCeppi "apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName" only changed custom and error log locations

?

rlemon

thats the real pain in the arse

Octavian Damiean

@wisemonkey You can ignore that.

Stefano Palazzo

it should still work @wisemonkey

rlemon

@wisemonkey mines been saying that since day #1

Stefano Palazzo

too late..

wisemonkey

8:13 PM

o.O

hmm I couldn't see the webpage though lemme see if something is changed

well lunch time will report back in a while

rlemon

\o/  _(YaY)
{ }
/ \

nvm... I thought it worked.. .just rebooted and started the process over.

Octavian Damiean

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Jorge Castro

ok who knows perl?

Marco Ceppi

unfortunately, but I'm not expert

Octavian Damiean

8:22 PM

Same here.

What do you need?

Stefano Palazzo

2

Jorge Castro

code.launchpad.net/~jorge/charm/oneiric/alice-irc/trunk

I get a "Can't locate inc/Module/Install.pm in @INC"

in my install script

I think I am just missing a dependency

github.com/leedo/alice/blob/master/INSTALL.md

those are the upstream instructions

Octavian Damiean

Hmm, are you sure that the last two commands succeeded?

I mean the CPAN module download and installation process.

Stefano Palazzo

what happens when you remove "--notest"? (maybe you'll get a more helpful error message)

rlemon

has anyone use UNetBootin with BSD?

Stefano Palazzo

8:30 PM

@rlemon if it's an .img, couldn't you just dd it to the device?

or rather to the first bootable partition on the device, something like that

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo same error

rlemon

@StefanoPalazzo I'm trying to install a OS to the device.. how can I expect to discover it with my PC?

Jorge Castro

it happens when it's trying to install "local-lib-1.008004"

Stefano Palazzo

@rlemon I was thinking something like this: dd if=archlinux.iso of=/dev/sd[x]

warning: this will delete everything on sd[x]

rlemon

ahhh, see this is why I keep comming back here.

Octavian Damiean

8:33 PM

And here the G+ post.

plus.google.com/114839638425953508537/posts/M3w568Jrach

Stefano Palazzo

via the archlinux wiki, they also have lots of other way to do it listed there: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_Installation_Media

they claim it works, I'm just relaying that :) never tried it myself

I try to stay away from dd ;)

Listening to jono bacon at the moment. I'm getting really mad about his political non-decidedness

he's a great guy obviously. but come on,

have an opinion!

Octavian Damiean

Where are you listening?

Stefano Palazzo

ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon

you should follow Ubuntu on g+ :)

Octavian Damiean

I do.

Stefano Palazzo

I took the liberty of sharing your post on the Ask ubuntu page by the way

rlemon

8:37 PM

:2517868 so like this:

rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:~$ sudo dd if=/home/rdl/Downloads/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img of=/dev/sdc

Stefano Palazzo

but I'll make another one a few minutes before it starts

@rlemon make 100% sure that sdc is the correct device.

yes. you can remember if and of as "input file" and "output file"

rlemon

did, unplugged and plugged in my thumb drive and watched it dissapear

btw is there an easier way of determining that.

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo Cool. :)

Stefano Palazzo

@rlemon you can find the mount point of the device in nautilus and then type "df"

or df | grep /media/whatever

Octavian Damiean

There is an Ubuntini?

rlemon

8:42 PM

/dev/sdc1             15836016         8  15836008   1% /media/Transcend

Octavian Damiean

lol

rlemon

so then sdc is my Transcend FlashDrive

:P

Stefano Palazzo

looks good

rlemon

MUCH faster than my method...
ls -la (look for all sd[x]), unplug drive, ls -la (look for drive that is no longer there)

Stefano Palazzo

df -h is one of the commands you'll like if you spend a lot of time on the command line

(h = human readable units)

as is "free -m", for ram

Jorge Castro

8:44 PM

oh hey stefano/marco

rlemon

man, I need to start compiling my cheat sheet

Stefano Palazzo

  mediawiki:
    charm: local:oneiric/mediawiki-81
    relations:
      db: mysql
    units:
      mediawiki/0:
        machine: 0
        public-address: 192.168.122.152
        relations:
          db:
            state: error
        state: started

Jorge Castro

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Q: Tag synonym suggestions

I don't have enough reputation to suggest or vote on tag synonyms, but I've noticed some possible synonyms. I already posted one suggestion in a separate question about whether I should suggest them here on meta, but I thought it would be useful to have a post just for suggested synonyms. I'm no...

Stefano Palazzo

@OctavianDamiean what was the relation command you typed?

Jorge Castro

we've got some crap tags that need help

Octavian Damiean

8:46 PM

@StefanoPalazzo juju add-relation mediawiki:db mysql:db

Stefano Palazzo

weird, that's what I typed as well

looks like mediawiki works anyway

do you know where I can find the error?

Octavian Damiean

What does your status look like?

Oh sorry

Did see that.

It should be in the logs in the directory you set in your environments.yaml

Bruno Pereira

hello

rlemon

color < color ....

did you mean colour

re: whoever posted that

Jorge Castro

heh probably

Octavian Damiean

8:50 PM

:)

Stefano Palazzo

@OctavianDamiean I've got one more thing (:

where do I find the mysql credentials now?

Octavian Damiean

It should be in the logs somewhere.

Stefano Palazzo

got it

rlemon

@StefanoPalazzo ok Sooooo I ran rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:~$ sudo dd if=/home/rdl/Downloads/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img of=/dev/sdc

rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:~$ sudo dd if=/home/rdl/Downloads/FreeBSD-8.2-RELEASE-i386-memstick.img of=/dev/sdc
1872300+0 records in
1872300+0 records out
958617600 bytes (959 MB) copied, 181.391 s, 5.3 MB/s

Stefano Palazzo

looks good to me

now cross your fingers and hope it'll boot

rlemon

8:56 PM

rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:~$ cd /media
rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:/media$ ls -la
total 20
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2011-11-23 15:38 .
drwxr-xr-x 24 root root 4096 2011-11-22 08:18 ..
drwx------  1 rdl  rdl  4096 2011-11-18 11:30 1AC07F5FC07F4055
drwx------  2 rdl  rdl  8192 2011-11-23 15:39 Transcend
rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:/media$ cd Transcend
rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:/media/Transcend$ ls -la
total 12
drwx------ 2 rdl  rdl  8192 2011-11-23 15:39 .
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2011-11-23 15:38 ..
rdl@rdl-ubuntu-work:/media/Transcend$

Bruno Pereira

@OctavianDamiean where can the logs for juju be? (folders)

Stefano Palazzo

oh hang on

rlemon

are they hidden.. or not there?

Stefano Palazzo

do you want to do that? /dev/sdc? or should it be /dev/sdc1 with a partition table set up beforehand

try this:

rlemon

probably should be sdc1 (still grasping linux partitioning)

this is what happens when life gives you windows.

Stefano Palazzo

8:58 PM

open the disk with gparted (after installing, run "gksu gparted"), delete everything, set up a partition, make it bootable and dd to that instead of the device

like /dev/sdc1

Octavian Damiean

@BrunoPereira Generally they are in the data-dir you've set in your environments.yaml

rlemon

you never take the time to actually go outside.

@StefanoPalazzo gparted lists it as sdd

no partition

Stefano Palazzo

right that makes sense

not sure why it's sdd, but anyway

you should need to set up a bootable parition (FAT32 I suppose)

I think it's right click -> make bootable

@OctavianDamiean shouldn't I be able to log into the machine via ssh?

it's asking for some password or other (not sure about the username either, I would've expected that it set up key-based login)

Octavian Damiean

Indeed.

It'll ask you for your SSH key password.

Indeed, it is key-based.

Stefano Palazzo

~:$ ssh root@192.168.122.136
root@192.168.122.136's password:

doesn't look right

rlemon

9:06 PM

@StefanoPalazzo I see no "make bootable" option

Jorge Castro

5

Bruno Pereira

lol

finally found some logs!

@JorgeCastro anyone have a ftp server juju up and running?

Jorge Castro

@GeorgeEdison is doing that one next

Stefano Palazzo

@rlemon sorry, that's "Partition → manage flags → 'boot'"

Jorge Castro

here's the list of what we need:

docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/…

rlemon

9:08 PM

@StefanoPalazzo yea I just got it.. needed to "apply changes" before you can manage flags ;)

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo Oh, no no, try that. juju ssh SERVICE_NAME

Jorge Castro

@BrunoPereira I thought you were doing teamspeak?

Stefano Palazzo

I was thinking of "cfdisk" ;)

Bruno Pereira

@JorgeCastro will be done tonight with it now that I can see what is happening, updated some code yesterday but going blind kinda got me stuck again, now I can see what is wrong and fix it ;)

Jorge Castro

have you seen "juju debug-log"

Stefano Palazzo

9:09 PM

@OctavianDamiean fantastic

thanks, yet again!

Jorge Castro

and "juju debug-hook teamspeak/0"

rlemon

@StefanoPalazzo so then I would install to /dev/sdd1 or /dev/sdd

Jorge Castro

takes you right into the unity

Octavian Damiean

Happy to help. :)

Jorge Castro

and then go to /var/log/juju in there to see what happened

Stefano Palazzo

9:10 PM

@rlemon you better check again, of course, but it'd be the partition you create. e.g. /dev/sdd1

if sda is the device, it's paritions are sda1, sda5, sda6, ..., sdz4096, and so on

Bruno Pereira

@JorgeCastro yeah, it was always on! the full log on my system is in /var/lib/lxc which I did not find reference anywhere

Jorge Castro

@BrunoPereira add that to my local answer!

on AU

Bruno Pereira

link, dont want to go back there or no work will be done!

deploying teamspeak!

Octavian Damiean

Oh god ... I just realized that Jorge has infected us with the juju!

Jorge Castro

excellent</mrburns>

Bruno Pereira

9:13 PM

@OctavianDamiean you say that like if your sad with it ;)

Octavian Damiean

No, not at all, I love juju but still I wonder how that happened. :D

Marco Ceppi

:)

Bruno Pereira

@JorgeCastro the charm school thing will it only be on irc? any chance we can use my teamspeak charm and actually talk to each other? :P

@OctavianDamiean :D

Jorge Castro

the promise of tshirts and mugs could have done something to do

@BrunoPereira we could certainly do something like that

Octavian Damiean

I mean I don't really wonder. You can ask everyone that met Jorge in person that it is hard not to get caught in the Hell-yea-let's-do-it feeling.

Bruno Pereira

9:15 PM

@JorgeCastro o really??? I did not see anything till now... tap taps foot impatiently

Stefano Palazzo

okay, everything worked brilliantly and now I'm hooked. that's juju.

Octavian Damiean

:D

Bruno Pereira

@JorgeCastro link the answer so I can add the log place to your answer

Jorge Castro

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Q: How do I configure juju for local usage?

I'm too cheap to pay for EC2, and I don't have enough servers to set up my own openstack, how do I configure juju to use Linux Containers (LXC) on something like my laptop?

juju lxc

rlemon

juju?

Jorge Castro

9:16 PM

@StefanoPalazzo what did you deploy?

Stefano Palazzo

mediawiki for now

Octavian Damiean

@rlemon juju.ubuntu.com

Stefano Palazzo

the only thing I might actually use ;)

rlemon

@OctavianDamiean do I need a troll sign?

Octavian Damiean

Yes. :D

Bruno Pereira

9:17 PM

Oh God another sleepless night incoming!

Marco Ceppi

Sleeping is for the weak

Oli

Yeah stop being tired and be awesome instead.

4

Bruno Pereira

@MarcoCeppi tell that to my scheduled customer calls...

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo are you sitting down?

Stefano Palazzo

yes...?

Jorge Castro

9:18 PM

@StefanoPalazzo behold: micknelson.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/…

Bruno Pereira

@Oli I am awesome! (at least my mother tells me that when she gives me cookies and milk every night before bed time)

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro heh :D you confuse me with Oli, I use cherrypy all the time

I don't much care for django at the moment, I don't need to get any work done ;)

Octavian Damiean

Fixed the How do I configure juju for local usage? answer.

It was missing the expose step.

Oli

I wish people would sit in the same room as their microphones when they do screencasts.

Marco Ceppi

haha

rlemon

9:23 PM

Jorge Castro

hmm

do we have cherrypy on the list?

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro not yet

Stefano Palazzo

someone should write a user-script for those 1990s smilies

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo Your call! CherryPy charm! GO GO GO!

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro that'd be awesome. deploying cherrypy on apache, plus datatabase, plus reverse-proxy, ..., is a bit of a pain. same as django, zope or any framework.

I know I rave about it a lot. it's no easier to use than the rest of 'em really ;)

Jorge Castro

9:24 PM

nod

Marco Ceppi

doitdoitdoitdoit

Jorge Castro

but with a charm, it's easy for everyone

best off, you'd never need to do it

ever again

by hand I mean

Stefano Palazzo

sounds good! I'll take it as my homework for CharmSchool :)

Octavian Damiean

Yea, You just do it by juju. :P

Magic

rlemon

@StefanoPalazzo this was after the last attempt

=P

Stefano Palazzo

9:28 PM

I can see it already: all my stuff will be one command away on ubuntu, impossible to deploy on any other distro. :P

@rlemon :-\

what happened when you tried unetbootin? (however you spell that)

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo "just when I wanted to get into Solaris...."

Stefano Palazzo

heh

rlemon

i'm gonna try that again now.. I had tried with the img from the bsd ftp site... now i'm going to try with the img you can choose from UNetBootin

Bruno Pereira

screw sleep, im getting my bottle of cognac!

rlemon

@BrunoPereira cognac induced sleep? or cognac induced coding.

Bruno Pereira

9:31 PM

@rlemon hope coding if sleeping deprivation allows for it. If that plan does not work I'll go for the sleeping plan ;)

wisemonkey

back

rlemon

@BrunoPereira rlemon.com <- hangman ;) also, half way through the cognac... rlemon.com/spirals

Stefano Palazzo

doesn't make much sense now that I think about it. I can't imagine a good reason for using Apache, if you're going to have limitless scalability with app servers.

so the cherrypy charm should just be pure cherrypy, and then a load balancer charm to tie them all together

wisemonkey

[Wed Nov 23 13:25:51 2011] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
Action 'start' failed.
The Apache error log may have more information.
...fail!

Stefano Palazzo

and a reverse proxy, because that's my favourite thing in the world it seems

Alvar

9:35 PM

O YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wisemonkey

time to press a panic button?

Alvar

is syncing my iPhone 3g with my Ubuntu laptop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

sry for swedish :P

finally a prodigy album :P

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo One day, at the next UDS maybe, you'll have to explain me why. :D

htorque

i tried to compile compiz from trunk today. never again. :D

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo what load balancer do you currently use?

@htorque just the man I was looking for!

@htorque I need the source to one of your ads

so I can make an ad for app developer week.

Stefano Palazzo

9:36 PM

@OctavianDamiean that's simple. you can run your various websites in the form of different servers, and use a reverse proxy to do the vhost-dispatching. so on plzz.de, jrc.plzz.de is actually plzz.de:9003.

rlemon

> The Apache error log may have more information.

> ...fail!

Jorge Castro

@htorque this one would be perfect: meta.askubuntu.com/q/1799/235

rlemon

always my fav.

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro I don't have any load to balance :)

Jorge Castro

oh, because we have haproxy already

wisemonkey

9:39 PM

my bad I didn't create required log folders and assume that apache will create them :-/

Octavian Damiean

\o/ My bug got confirmed! :)

Software Center wastes space

The Software Center is wasting a lot of space currently. I'm on 1680 x 1050 and if I maximize it there is a lot of unused space at the bottom below the "Top Rated" block. Here are two ideas what that space could be used for. a) You could have the "What's New" block be more prominent. Make the elements bigger and add more information. b) Show more items in the "Top Rated" block. (This can be problematic because it can be too much for the user) c) Add another block "Top Downloaded" for example. Those are really just some quick thoughts.

software-center (Ubuntu)

Undecided / Confirmed

Stefano Palazzo

@JorgeCastro then haproxy it is. seems like the best one too. these "cherrypy apps" I talk about are complete webservers, so haproxy should "just work"

rlemon

@OctavianDamiean @ home I run 1920 * 1080 and I never noticed that...

wisemonkey

just cause u mentioned I'm gonna try maximizing it

Jorge Castro

@StefanoPalazzo yep

Octavian Damiean

9:42 PM

I'm very anal about design.

Marco Ceppi

I think my goal for the thanksgiving holiday is to get three charms done. Seems reasonable enough

Octavian Damiean

This is the only reason I don't have my own blog up and running. I'm too much of a design perfectionist to actually finish a design. :D

Which is more sad than fun.

Bruno Pereira

if you deploy a charm and it fails with some fault do you need to destroy it and re deploy? can you make the process "restart" without deploying again?

Jorge Castro

@OctavianDamiean that's why I use tumblr

htorque

@JorgeCastro i'll look if i still have it :)

Jorge Castro

9:43 PM

a bunch of pretty stuff

Stefano Palazzo

@OctavianDamiean this is quite good: let's say I want to write an app and get it running, here's what I do. 1) write the app, superapp.py, 2) upload it to the server and run "python superapp.py", running on port 12345

then I add this to my nginx conf:

server {
        server_name superapp.plzz.de;
        location / { proxy_pass 127.0.0.1:12345; }
}

done

Octavian Damiean

hmmm, I see.

Stefano Palazzo

this way, step 1 is the hardest step, as it should be

htorque

hm, not on system one

@JorgeCastro i'm afraid there's no svg source to this one

Octavian Damiean

@StefanoPalazzo :D

htorque

9:50 PM

iirc that was made in gimp

Jorge Castro

bumma

Stefano Palazzo

I ought to write a script for that

rlemon

BTX Halted AHHHHHHhhhhhhhhhhh

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