Game Development

What does onpointwrclick do?

handles everything that need to happen to the card when someone clicks it. The real player also uses it

must be something with the fakeData that I need to fire the poiter click from the bot

I wrote a card game style system in unity

Not sure what kind of card game you are making

But I set up card states and the card would morph based on its current state.

That way the card behaviour just works on its own and it's pretty solid

Wrote two games with it. Made in a day.

the only visual thing OnPointerClick does is remove the card from its current container, spawn a invisible place holder so the order does not get mixed up and scale it up. It works perfectly when a user plays and selects cards. I was just wondering why adding a delay in the bot script fixed the issue.

10:41 AM

pic of mangle?

and I dunno, that is weird.

give me a sec

Would perhaps the fake click event occur sooner or later than the normal human click event in the script execution order?
maybe one script is out of order compared to the other?

with the wait for 1 s

and the mangle

the rect transfrom of the card frame for some reason has 0 width and height

@ChrisMcFarland I'm starting to suspect something like this. The bot clicks on the card before the layout can set its dimensions

make your OnPointerClick method set a bool, clicked = true;, and then do a LateUpdate to see if clicked == true and do the process then or something

@UriPopov I choose the lemonade!

10:48 AM

just to delay the click processing, so in theory human and bot clicks will be processed later at the same time in the loop

Actually now I know exactly what happens.

1. the cards spawn. 2 the data for the cards gets init. 3 the bot gets the card data and decides what card to play. 4 the bot sends the fake click to that card object.5 the OnPointerClick on that object fires and takes it out of the layout group before it has had its width and height set.

ok now all that is left is make sure the ai does not pick the same character as the player

user92578

Someone from Groupees.com contacted me on IndieDB

user92578

Saying that they would want GunHero in an upcoming Greenlight bundle promotion, asking if I was interested

user92578

That would probably require me to have a build for sharing, right?

user92578

I guess I'll answer "yes, I would be interested but I have no idea what this means in detail"

11:02 AM

You most likely don't want to do that

yeah don't

more than likely they are trying to scam you

Did they ask for keys?

Groupees and other bundles are terrible except for the last tail end of the release cycle

user92578

No

say you are interested, and see what they come back with

@Jon I don't know about that, groupees legitimately works that way

11:03 AM

ok, i wasn't sure about groupees

i gave the girl at the coffee shop a 30 cent tip and she scoffed at me

Basically they have people working for them that try to make new bundles, I've read of many other people having been asked if they want to be in a bundle

you handed me a coffee... i thought 30 cents was fair...

plus i just wanted to give her a nickel, since I didn't want it -- but that would have been rude so I added a quarter with it.

But being in a bundle will get you a lot of angry people going "But it was cheap then! Why can't it be cheap now!?", and "Hey I bought the game for .1 cent, why don't I get a steam key as well!"

I basically paid her 25 cents to take my nickel

Fair point -- the bundle deal will get people to play your game -- but from what I gather you are not going to generate income

Yep, and it ruins future income

11:06 AM

I don't know about that.

It might piss some people off -- but most people will say "I'll just wait till the next deal"

And it's not even guaranteed to get people to play your game, people often buy a bundle for one or 2 games and don't play the other ones

@Jon I've read some anecdotal evidence but eh shrug

Yeah for the most part if I consider buying a bundle it is pretty much for one game

USA has a weird tipping culture. I've never understood it.

Quebec is the worst.

In Quebec, they expect you to tip -- if you don't tip they will let you know that you have to

My parents didn't tip their paperboy every time he came over -- they were planning on tipping him at the end of the month or whatever. (when they paid)

The paperboy starting ripping papers in the middle of the newspaper

he would open the paper, rip it up, and close it again

IT is even worse in restaurants and bars

Waitrresses will literally say "Don't you know what a tip is"

Yeah, your service was fucken shit that is why I didn't tip

They don't understand

rusty penny

11:10 AM

To them a tip is something that belongs to them.

The industry created this mess to lower wages

nobody tips in nz
it's great

Why Tipping Should Be Banned - Adam Ruins Everything

Its fucken stupid to have to tip though.

The entire point is to provide extra money because you appreciated the service

Its not my fuckenb job to pay your employees

user92578

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I have a huge problem with tipping.

Well sorry -- I have a huge problem with people that require a tip to live.

I personally tip very well.

NZ's school system, it's free
but parents are expected to provide a yearly "donation" of like $100 to help cover expenses for the school
and even though it's an "optional donation", if you don't pay it, your kid doesn't get included in all activities like fieldtrips and other stuff

11:12 AM

so basically your kid is the loser kid

budgets are tight
lol yeah

pay through avoiding shame for your son

man some fams just can't even afford it eh

can barely afford food as it is

you have to wonder though

I get that some families can't afford it -- but others can't afford it because they spend their money on booze and drugs

it becomes priority

some parents are reckless

11:14 AM

Morning guys

user92578

All right so I answered "I'm interested, what does this mean and how does this work?"
No harm in that

that why I'm not having a kid anytime soon. Need to make sure to have money for him and booze and drugs

I know a guy that buys so much weed and can't even afford it -- but for him he needs weed

So he rather not eat

what does he need weed for ?

An addicted, basically

11:15 AM

smoking

he doesn't have kids though

he's just a loser.

I just don't even why people smoke anything, I tried it once and it tastes horrible

i used to smoke cigarettes back in the day

I did it to be cool and rebelious

I currently smoke cigs

it tasted horrible.

what did you smoke ?

11:19 AM

started with menthol since my friend's mom had some

that was shit

then we had this indian friend that could buy them at the store tax free

so he started buying packs for us

not sure why this store would sell this 14 year old indian kid smokes, but he did

specific brand or did anything go ?

du maurier

never seen them

back in my day packages didn't have gore on them.

now it looks like this

mine still don't :D

11:22 AM

Around here those stuff is in the back

in australia -- the cigarette companies sued and won for the removal of this stuff

they effectively tell the government how to run things now

Free Trade Agreements FTW

It's so hypocrisy to put those stuff to say "oh, don't smoke, it will kill you slowly", then why the hell it's hasn't been banned yet?

once the TPP passes, you can expect a lot more of your tax dollars going POOF to fight bullshit lawsuits by corporations trying to fuck you in the ass

my gov accepted this law but my cigs are made in Poland and continue to not have the gore

Either let it be or ban once for all

11:24 AM

@DH. cuz money

Why isn't it banned? Do you know how much money it generates?

if you ban something, it still happens

Do you know why guns are not banned?

Follow the money.

this is why prostitution is legal in NZ
why not tax it and create safe laws around it

why is marijuanan banned ?

they are using marijuana to fund the for profit prisons in america

And militarize their police forces

This "War on drugs" is a farce -- you can't win a war on a pass time.

11:26 AM

Guns are banned here but a lot of people already saw a gun in a bandit's hand

@ChrisMcFarland you read abvout the NZ jew jitzu dude ?

newshub.co.nz/sport/…

hmm someone at unity had the bright idea to make texts be a raycast target be default. Thanks obama

Brazil is a fucken joke right now... its pretty sad.

@UriPopov remove checkmark.

but why is it on by default

@Jon that sucks, yeah

11:31 AM

I get that you want a text to be a raycast target sometimes but not by default

@UriPopov not sure why it is default

Shadows and lighting are on by default as well

Not like you typically need that on UI shit

yep

I bought megaman 2 last night

beat all robots -- gonna tackle willy castle today i think

gl&hf

I looked it up -- game came out a year before my gf was born. made me feel like weird.

11:35 AM

haha nice

Mega Man's gravity is super high eh

one of the best platformers ever made if you ask me

yeah its fast

does MM2 have the dog?

been a looooong time

there is no speed build up -- its move or don't

MM2 has 3 dog robots

skateboard that flies straight

lol

winged platform that goes up like 1 seconed

and a platform that sticks to walls

goes up the wall

When I was a kid, this part was impossible to me

Then someone showed me how to do it

fuck man, kids these days would never be able to beat this game

Games are shit now seriously...

11:41 AM

meatboy was pretty damn hard

Yeah

I'm over-reacting -- but games have been dumbed down beyond belief in my view.

press F to pay respect for old games

3

I like to remake old games

To be fair a lot of old games were hard to extract more coins at the arcade

And now games are easy to extract more coins from a wider audience

Things didn't change all that much

arcade games, lol yeah

11:45 AM

old games were frickin hard
but there weren't many games, so you'd play them

I don't miss having to redo the whole level after losing all my lives

There was a very popular game in the 80s in arcades, i forget which one - but arcade owners took it down because people could play 30 minutes on a quarter

heh

nowadays, it's not worth getting frustrated imo, so you go and play something else that is easier to digest

NO MAN GET FRUSTRATED

11:46 AM

I tried replaying Super Mario 3 a few years back

I couldn't be bothered

YOU WUT MATE???

I have it here on the NES

we pretty much just play mario maker now though.

I can't remember if I still have my copy

Tho I never was really much of a platformer guy

I was more of an adventure game kid

I know I've got the Zelda, and the Mario/Duck Hunt combo cart

my gf bought me maniac mansion closed in box for NES for xmas -- she thought that was what I wanted

11:47 AM

hahaha

Adventure games also got quite dumbed down, but then again

I wanted the c64 version.. the NES port was shit.

I remember being stuck for 3 years on Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis

LOL, yeah that game was stupid hard.

heh

11:47 AM

the puzzles were not intuitive

Worst part is

It was a Lucas Arts game

Which means it is actually part of the best adventure games

Yeah, it was acclaimed too

I didn't really enjoy that one

It's not even close in stupid difficulty to the Sierra ones

space quest 1

kings quest 1

those are fucken brutal

yeah

11:48 AM

kings quest, fffuuuuuuu

had that one at school

kings quest 1 -- man ... you had to escape that old man's house

it was impossible

was awesome though just cuz I was a kid

At least if you lose in Indy 4 you know it immediatly

He would kill you for every single thing you did.

I beat police quest 1, 2 and 3

not sure how , but I did.. and this was before internet.

lol

11:50 AM

I had to wait to get the internet in 97 to finish Indy 4

The Atlantis part was a bit too tough

police quest 3 -- you had to figure out that the crimes lined up like a pentagram on a map

there was no hint to this

Hail Satan

when you plotted it -- you then went to the center of the pentagram

and caught the killer

pretty fucken stupid now that I think about it

but you had to determine this with the evidence you collected

Well it would be an alright puzzle if there were any hints to it

For example one of the images of a crime scene had the address of the house in the background

11:51 AM

Did you find anything particularly satanic in the evidence?

Hmm, no

I was young too -- it probably hinted

but I didn't read it rightr

The part I was stuck in for Indy 4 was so bloody dumb

It was the part where you have to convince Sophia to volunteer at the knife throwing thing

You had to PUSH her

lol

11:53 AM

I didn't figure this out for so long

in space quest 3 -- you had to push a pulley to hit the robot terminator

back then I had no idea what a pulley was, so I wasn't able to finish that puzzle

lol

Then someone said type "Push pulley" and I did and it worked

That is a problem with text based adventures with graphics

If you can't determine what something is you're pretty fucked

Another quite frustrating one was I have no mouth and I must scream

when I won the stages, I couldn't even tell that I won them

11:56 AM

It's a quite good adventure game story wise and atmosphere wise

But as far as the game part

Not so much

@Jon Ah, the 90's

Wow

You could kill him in a totally different way

I had no idea

I played Lucas Arts game so bloody much

They were pretty great

Zac McKracken?

Eeeeh

That one not so much

Also not Maniac Mansion so much

two best ones

12:00 PM

Full Throttles I liked but bloody hell, those mini games

I never passed the demolition derby stage

I had to use the secret key combination to skip it

The DIG and Grim Fandango were bloody great, tho

12:14 PM

never played full throttle

Full Throttle is where I heard metal for the first time

Full Throttle - Legacy

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devil's game

It's a pretty good game tho a bit heavy on poorly designed minigames

Hm, with GoG making so many remakes and sequels to Lucas Arts games, I wonder if they'll ever do the LOOM sequel

I've been waiting for it for 20 years

why the fuck did they remake maniac mansion 2?

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Yeah it wasn't that necessary

DotT works perfectly fine on SCUMMVM

12:18 PM

They literally took a game that had the most amazing pixel art

And "remastered" it

Grim Fandango on the other hand

I haven't been able to play it for 10 years

yeah, glad they fixed the shit controls

that too

Did you hear about that achievement "Beat the game in Tank Mode"

mouse control was welcome

I did not

Although they should have added autosave, maybe

12:19 PM

If you start and finish an entire game with the old school controls you get this achievement

Since they recreated the game so perfectly that they even included the random game crashes

One thing I will tip my hat to for modern games

They very rarely crash

90's games crashed so often

Martin Sojka

12:45 PM

@Slereah Until you start modding them.

Modern games are very much still in the "works for me" state. Almost no error checking of the game data.

1:08 PM

welp, time to rewrite the collision detection a bit

user92578

I'm really not sure what to do on this Groupee thing

user92578

I want to believe that I'll pass Greenlight if I just wait a little

I would avoid doing a bundle thing

user92578

That's kinda the way I'm leaning currently, but I'm just a little worried about "what if I don't get lit because I don't get the attention"

I would make a bundle only after the game is launched

user92578

1:22 PM

That I don't want to do, because I would lose a ton of money

user92578

Bundles after a launch should be avoided unless the game is selling nothing on Steam

That was the point, wasn't very clear on what I meant

user92578

Ah, all right, my bad I guess

user92578

Okay, I politely declined the offer

user92578

Maybe later

1:40 PM

@Jon you'll have to update your starbound server :p

PearsonArtPhoto

Sigh. My bug still hasn't been fixed in 5.4... I was hopeful, there was something promising in the bug fixes, but nope... issuetracker.unity3d.com/issues/…

Why? Version 1.0.3 got out?

PearsonArtPhoto

Oh well, I've updated to 5.4 anyways, and it seems stable, at least for now.

@DH. yep!

Gosh

They never were that quick during the Early Access

I'm really surprised how they are doing after the release

user92578

1:48 PM

Probably have to patch things faster?

Yeah, there is not really a contract with the players when you're in beta (alpha), now that's the real deal :P

They don't have to, IMHO is just that now it's the real thing, so they're just more serious about it!

When they came on Steam they were a bit worried at keeping stable builds available, but for example in the last year it probably got only one stable release

They were keeping everything at the nighlty builds

Not that this were a problem, but it looked like the game was dead :P