Game Development

Pip

1:01 AM

So I'm thinking about building hackintoshes for $

Don't know if anyone would be interested..... but we shall see. I might make a simple website to gauge some interest

user92578

9:12 AM

Morning!

Kevin van der Velden

o/

Hmm, C++ files with 6326 lines...

github.com/nothings/stb/blob/master/stb_image.h

user92578

9:33 AM

You guys seen this? github.com/ocornut/imgui

Lokkij

Looks pretty rad.

user92578

10:05 AM

struct TLevelTriggerActionProperty
{
	// Stores the name of the property.
	TString m_PropertyName;
	// Stores the display text of the property.
	TString m_PropertyDisplayText;

	// The value.
	union ULevelTriggerActionPropertyValue
	{
		int m_Int;
		float m_Float;
		TString m_String;
		TVector2 m_Vector;
	}; ULevelTriggerActionPropertyValue m_PropertyValue;
};

user92578

Why doesn't that have a default constructor?

Kevin van der Velden

TString

Also probably the union

user92578

TString has a default constructor

user92578

well, TString()

user92578

Ah

user92578

10:13 AM

So if I comment out the TString and TVector2 from the union it works

user92578

Well that's annoying

user92578

10:23 AM

How should I proceed?

user92578

well this is really stupid

user92578

I guess I'll waste memory and dump the union

user92578

<CLevelTriggerAction name="ActionSpawn" display="Action Spawn">
	<Property name="Count" display="Count"/>
	<Property name="Position" display="Position"/>
</CLevelTriggerAction>

user92578

So I'm going to define all the actions in XML files like this

user92578

And then use that data to display the actions and their properties in the level editor

user92578

10:34 AM

And then probably save the actions in a similar format in the level file

user92578

And then make a huge CLevelTriggerActionFactory class that takes the action name and parses the properties to the action

user92578

~~Complicated~~ lots of stuff if you want to do this at least a bit properly

Pip

11:40 AM

morning GDSE

user92578

hi pip

Pip

whassup Tyyppi?

user92578

"working" on the trigger action system stuff

user92578

so procrastinating

Pip

lol

user92578

11:42 AM

also kinda searching the nets for a monitor stand

Pip

(bbiab, restarting)

Jon

be back in a boobie

user92578

my monitors are quite big (27'') so i'm scared that the reasonable priced ones can't hold em steadily

user92578

but it would be awesome to be able to pivot one of the monitors

user92578

and also my desk concerns me

Jon

11:47 AM

get wall mount bro

user92578

nah, i dont want to destroy the walls

Jon

ain't destroying walls lol

you put drill 4 bolts into 2 studs

easily fix that shit with putty

Pip

back

user92578

wb

Pip

Wall mounts are awesome

I completely recommend

Jon

11:50 AM

yeah no shit

takes crap off your desk, rules

my fucken ankle

user92578

aight, i gotta check some out then i guess

Jon

i have random pains my my ankle, like someone just stuck a needle in it

user92578

ouch

Jon

yah, might have to go get it checked out.

i do have 11 screws or something like that in there

user92578

oh for a moment i thought we got back to talking about the wall mounts

Jon

11:52 AM

same thing

Pip

lol

So

Think making an online store to sell prebuilt (aka I build them) hackintoshes is a viable business?

Jon

client hell

the second they browse porn and get a virus, you are the one they are going to call

demanding their money back

Pip

lol

Macs are pretty hard to get viruses on

Also, once I test it will be out of my hands. I'll have to state that explicitly somewhere, thanks for reminding me

Jon

yeah, i was being serious

people blame businesses for their stupidity

Pip

Check this out btw: youtube.com/watch?v=1W9q3ZZdAqo

Jon

12:00 PM

linus is so gay

nice monitor

Pip

yeah, I like it

Also costs like $1.1k :P

Jon

comparing it to rhonda rousey

lol

Pip

haha he plays rocket league

Jon

eh? rhonda is the woman's MMA champ

aka, she is bulkier

fuck @pip, that is 1000$ monitor

Pip

yeah

Otherwise, very cool

Jon

12:07 PM

i'm cool but you don't hear me asking for 1000$

ugh.. i think one of my screws is coming out

Jon

12:26 PM

15 Sorting Algorithms in 6 Minutes

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this is fucken cool as shit

heapsort is cool :D

radix sort, i need to read up on

Pip

same

Jon

12:56 PM

Radix sort

In computer science, radix sort is a non-comparative integer sorting algorithm that sorts data with integer keys by grouping keys by the individual digits which share the same significant position and value. A positional notation is required, but because integers can represent strings of characters (e.g., names or dates) and specially formatted floating point numbers, radix sort is not limited to integers. Radix sort dates back as far as 1887 to the work of Herman Hollerith on tabulating machines. Most digital computers internally represent all of their data as electronic representations of binary...

pretty interesting as it does no comparisons

Pip

huh

user92578

1:45 PM

finding a font is hard

user92578

should've checked the license of the current font when i picked it

user92578

maybe ill just use comic sans

user92578

sigh

user92578

2:03 PM

I mean for the fucks sake you can't even read this

user92578

Jon

2:14 PM

looks good

i don't like the e and a

user92578

i dont like anything

user92578

I'm just so used to the current font

user92578

i love it

user92578

WHO THE FUCK PUBLISHES FONTS WITHOUT NUMBERS

Jon

choplifter

Pip

2:17 PM

lol

@Tyyppi_77 what's the current font?

user92578

"Prototype"

user92578

It looks horribly by default

Pip

I mean, what font did you like?

user92578

But SDL_TTF allows me to weirdly scale it

user92578

and it looks awesome

user92578

2:18 PM

I like the "Prototype" font

user92578

However I cannot release a game using that font

user92578

And I would very much prefer one day releasing the game

Pip

this font?

dafont.com/prototype.font

user92578

yup

Pip

You're not going to get sued for a font that is literally all over the internet

It's on 1001freefonts

you're fine

user92578

2:24 PM

yeah thats where i got it

user92578

well I suppose so

Pip

just leave it if you like it

no issues here

user92578

but on the other hand it should be all over the internet, as it's "free for personal use"

Pip

On the designer's website it's listed as "freeware"

you should be fine

user92578

aight thanks

user92578

2:26 PM

all tough now that i've looked like 25 different fonts in the game

user92578

even prototype looks weird

Pip

lol

Anyway

I'm playing with Stripe because why not

it seems like an elegant payments API

and it's free to test with, they give you some test credit card #s to play with

Pretty awesome looking as well

user92578

sound cool

Pip

stripe.com/docs/checkout

looks baller

user92578

Hmm now I kinda want to make the UIs look cooler

Pip

2:43 PM

Windows is garbage... so glad I only have to use it for school stuff

Jon

4:49 PM

Windows is not garbage... it just could be so much better

Windows 8 was a pile of fucken garbage

Forced single pane windows and shit like that... fuck off

Pip

Well... of the Windows releases I don't think 8 is bad. It's the one I use

Lokkij

5:15 PM

This analysis of standard patterns in choice-based games is an interesting read.

Almo

5:25 PM

wow last 4 TIS levels are hard

I don't even know where to start

Jon

show me

Almo

remember I'm not looking for hints. Here's one of them. :)

Jon

why would you do this to yourself

Almo

I don't know. I find it fun for some reason.

might have something to do with never having taken Co Sci classes, so I've never solved these problems the hard way

Jon

lol

yeah, well I did assembly for about 2 years

Almo

5:32 PM

hahah

I did some ASM on C64, but not a ton

Jon

you can get good at that low level stuff

Almo

yeah i bet

Jon

but it takes a lot of mental health assistance

Good at Assembly -- Social life (pick one)

Almo

:)

Ali.S

5:46 PM

@Almo I kinda don't get it why it is hard :|

Almo

which is why I'm not asking for hints

Ali.S

mostly because I don't own that game :D

Almo

because I am having to figure this out for myself, not knowing how these things are usually solved at a low level

that's what you have to work with

if you like asm coding at all, I highly recommend the game

Ali.S

src is a direction right? like up, down, left,right?

Almo

yes

Ali.S

5:49 PM

let me ask it like this: how do you move data around?

Almo

let's say A sends in a 5 on the top node

in that node you can

mov up, down

and that moves it to the pipe input on the node below

then in that node, you could mov up, acc

that stores the 5 in the accumulator

the nodes only hold 15 lines of code as well

Lokkij

Worth noting: there's a 15-line limit per node.

Almo

no scrolling

Ali.S

it kinda feels more than enough...

Almo

get the game and kick its ass. I'll see your scores on the table

Ali.S

5:51 PM

@Almo you are tempting me...

and I was going to get speed racers...

Almo

you compete on # of nodes, # of instructions, and # of cycles to complete the task

you get 3 slots, so you can make one solution for each optimization

>:)

Ali.S

can you gift it ;)

Almo

bought a few too many music and games this month already :)

gotta go, talk later :)

Ali.S

@Almo cya

Lasse

whats this game

Lokkij

5:54 PM

This week's Sunday Papers is full of really good articles (on game design).

Ali.S

*speed runners

TheMuffinCoder

Jello everyone

Came to take a small break from hw

Anyone know the proper term for a highend workstation pc? All i find are gaming pc builds

Jon

studio

lol, but ultimately, a high end workstation is one with a solid cpu

build it yourself

if you can afford it, you get the i7-5960x

Ali.S

@Jon what if your main purpose is gaming?

Jon

quite frankly i would just get the 5960x

if you are into gaming, you can limit to i5 for the time being

unless you plan to stream and shit like that

Ali.S

6:10 PM

personally I also like to get i7

Jon

gaming + streaming i'd suggest i7

TheMuffinCoder

Lol I want to get a highend workstation, I don't plan to game at all

Ali.S

but not a high-end overclockable version like x series

Jon

yeah, i7 would be the 6700K

or the 4950

TheMuffinCoder

But I need a good gpu to support dual 4k monitors

Jon

6:11 PM

errr 4790

TheMuffinCoder

Lol I just remembered, I need a good gpu to render animations in blender xD

Jon

any 4GB video card will be fine

TheMuffinCoder

lol I'll figure it out when I get to the time of actually buying

Lasse

how about skylake? mmmm DDR4 and shit

TheMuffinCoder

Which will be around april

Lol I'm getting DDR5

Jon

6:11 PM

if you are buying new, go for skylake

Lasse

@TheMuffinCoder I didn't mean GPU memory

TheMuffinCoder

oh xD

I upgraded to windows 10 and my audio drivers are screwed

I can't lower the volume anymore

Jon

That is a feature

TheMuffinCoder

Every ping goes PING into my ears

Jon

Windows 10 decides how high your sound goes

TheMuffinCoder

6:13 PM

Hey Jon do u think pc parts prices will drop significantly if I wait till 2017?

Jon

yeah, and by then Zen will be out

TheMuffinCoder

OH OKAY THEN :D

I get to save even more money for a better pc

Jon

i would guess zen will be similar to skylake

and run three times as hot

TheMuffinCoder

Wouldnt skylake be better than zen?

Jon

According to AMD, Zen's main focus will be on increasing per-core performance rather than core count or multi-threading performance.[6] Reports from AMD indicate that Zen will abandon modular CMT (Clustered Multithread) for a SMT (Simultaneous Multithreading) microarchitecture,[1][7] the model Intel uses. Adapting their chips from the less-popular CMT to SMT[2] is expected to offer much higher number threading efficiency, but also possibly increase the die size of Zen module.[6]

TheMuffinCoder

6:16 PM

Oh i see now

Jon

they are also going to 14nm

TheMuffinCoder

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117404 LOL my budget was 1200$ for the whole pc

Jon

That is for a hardcore workstation PC

for video rendering

3d scene 4rendering and shit like that

TheMuffinCoder

Ouch that truly is hardcore

Jon

yeah, but 8 cores

16 threads

oh and 20MB cache

TheMuffinCoder

6:18 PM

Lol if I had a job I would save for that

too bad school eats all my time ; - ;

Jon

yep it does that

the shit i did for school reports

when its all done and over with, you worked your ass off for nothingn for the most part

they need to focus down on what you want to learn

instead of forcing you to learn a bunch of stuff that doesn't interest you

at least in later education that is

TheMuffinCoder

Lol ik, but my work paid off so far by having a nice 4.4 GPA and begin class rank #1 :D

I couldn't care less what I learn in History or Biology, I'm only interested in my Math and Chemistry classes :P

Ali.S

@Lokkij you there?

there is something I can't comprehend...

Lokkij

Yep!

Ali.S

is it wrong to have to nodes sending data to each other on same cycle?

Lokkij

6:29 PM

Two nodes sending data to eachother on the same cycle.. not sure.

Ali.S

the simulation pauses...

Lokkij

Well firstly, you don't receive the other node's data.

You'll need MOV RIGHT, ACC somewhere in the left one, and vice versa.

Ali.S

sub recieves it

Lokkij

Oh, right.

Then it probably won't work?

Ali.S

yeah.. it just waits on mov line

Lokkij

6:31 PM

Which makes sense, because a node hangs until the data it sends has been received.

Ali.S

I think I got it... tnx

ok... it makes it harder then ...

Lokkij

It's not an easy game! :P

Ali.S

ok... so the first set of records i broke!

@almo by far....

Lokkij

:O

Ali.S

on third level :D

Lokkij

6:40 PM

Even one cycle less than Icy.

Ali.S

that man... is called micro-optimization ;)

Lokkij

:)

Ali.S

@Lokkij I don't have icy in my friends list

but I bet his solution is identical to mine, with just one instruction ordered differently

Lasse

in C++ can I overload pointer multiplication? for example if I have Vector2 *v1, *v2; and I want to v3 = v1 * v2;

user4704

No.

Lasse

6:43 PM

bummer

user4704

*v1 * *v2 for you

Lasse

yeah

user4704

or write mul(vector *, vector *)

Ali.S

@Lokkij reduced it once more :D

did i mention all those records 202/5/12 were result of same machine?

Almo

9:21 PM

Conker's Bad Fur Day - The Great Mighty Poo

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sorry, have to post that. It's just too good that he can sing really well.

Pip

lol

Almo

9:38 PM

wasn't really a fun game, but it was funny in places.

Chris

yeah, Conker is just a bit toooo far out there I think

Almo

it was very standard "go here get this bring it there" gameplay

Chris

the whole crudeness I think lol, 'tis amusing though

yeah

Pip

So you two both own Macs, correct?

Almo

banjo kazooie was similar, but its charm saved it. until it became frustrating at the rustbucket level where I quit

Chris

9:46 PM

I have a Mac, yeah

Almo

had 100% it up to there

Pip

What are the specs?

Chris

yeah B-K has the charm factor.
DK64 was similar nature but rather full-on iirc

Mine's a MacBook Pro, 2.4 GHz i5, 4 GB RAM

Pip

Can I have a screenshot of the specs screen? The "about this mac" or whatever, I mean

Almo

support.apple.com/kb/SP697?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US

that's mine

mine's the 3.7 GHz one

Chris

9:49 PM

I've got the late 2013 model

Almo

quad core GPU

Chris

nice

Almo

not the 6-core GPU :)

MickLH

I ask for just one minute of your time (although the video is an hour and a half long)

I'll cut you straight to the build up, and please take note: The "drop" is only the part "snare snare snare, womp", after the vocal "ugh", is the bass line.

Excision Shambhala Mix 2015

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The drop is a very short thing, the buildup is part of the drop.

The bassline, that's a bassline. Please get it straight people.

If you want to get technical, it's the hypnotic induction.

If you're not hypnotized by the time you get to "ugh", the song's not gonna work on you.

Pip

@Almo that's a pretty damn nice system, man

How much $?

Dave

10:04 PM

The song does nothing for me personally. It too dirty of a synth for my taste.

I love this kinda of sound: youtu.be/cM_xL9qJUOQ?t=50

MickLH

I literally instantly shuddered lol

I need that authentically horrible sounding "bad person" sound design

Dave

I like the wavey sound of it all

MickLH

With no melodics

It's actually wonderful, I just am transitioning to melodics still

I been on grime all day

I gotta go back to the grime lol

The problem with melodics is... they are emotional, which is disgusting. Put that away.

You can groove just as hard on harmonics, without any emotional attachment

If you take it to the extreme case, you can consider any song as a single note with ridiculously complex timbre.

(And frequency way below audible)

That's supposed to show that objectively, harmonics are the true form of the signal, and melodies are just shorthand we use for this music theory we think means something for some reason based on people thinking it "sounds right"

Well... I think the same note over and over "sounds right" </rant>

but I will admit, the 2nd drop in the link I posted is way too much if you didn't hear the full buildup

but I was more coming to bitch about how people mix the words "drop" and "bassline" up so hard.

I guess the 2nd bassline is even too abrasive if you didn't hear the full buildup

(I just came back and listened to where I cut in for you guys lol)

Almo

10:35 PM

@Pip $3800 canadian

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