Game Development

Already asked it a dozen times but does anyone know somebody who is interested in working on any of these with me?
https://github.com/Jonathan-Ironman/Firefly
https://github.com/Jonathan-Ironman/Feral-Waters

Jon

12:10 AM

also, consider that everything you see on a monitor is actually 2D

OMGtechy

@TheMuffinCoder cough minecraft

TheMuffinCoder

@OMGtechy lol i heard about chunks in minecraft but never actually knew what they were

OMGtechy

well, now you do :D

RebeloX

yes thats true

Aidan Mueller

@TheMuffinCoder You may want cube chunks. There is a minceraft mod that does this.

RebeloX

12:11 AM

I learned that 3D on monitor its called prespective

something like that

Aidan Mueller

Funny, I was just about to say something about minecraft.

Jon

it is a lot more complicated than that :)

TheMuffinCoder

@AidanMueller what does what?

Aidan Mueller

The only thing more rare that meat, is the jungle biome in minecraft.

RebeloX

@Jonathan nice games man!

Aidan Mueller

12:12 AM

@TheMuffinCoder Chunks that are cubes, not square.

RebeloX

@Jon My problem with Game Development isn't the coding or something like that because i like to learn

my main problem is the idea

Jon

@Jonathan in a other moment in time, I might be interested

however, got some other things on the go now :)

RebeloX

I like to do something with a propose

Jon

looks good though

Jonathan

@RebeloX Well thanks, but they don't do much as of yet. I expect them to be finished somewhere mid 2053

Blue Bug

12:13 AM

advanced topics, however, are still tough challenges in 2D. I'd say they are as tough as they are in 3D.

Jon

a lot of 2d algorithms work in 3d effortlessly

just by adding the extra axis

RebeloX

yes and that's good

Blue Bug

exactly. So adding/removing dimensions doesn't really change much, which is also a good learning itself to know that dimensions don't play a huge part when it comes to learning.

Jon

my tree algorithm for example, ports to 3d effortlessly

depends though

if you are dealing with lighting for example

quite the difference

RebeloX

yeah, I was also thinking about using an engine or making all stuff but for now I will focus on the game

Blue Bug

12:16 AM

That's true. I didn't think about shadowing stuff

Jon

use unity

RebeloX

Yes 2D

That's what I've been using

Jon

i've been using heroin.

RebeloX

I used SFML to make some basic stuff with C++ and to learn more about the core, but since I only want to make the game I've been using Unity since that.

Heroin? Tell me more about

Jon

oh heroin? oh man its great

actually i watched a lot of intervention, and heroin looks really bad

RebeloX

12:18 AM

Good, could you send me the website?

Jon

for heroin?

OMGtechy

heroin

Jon

i know a guy that was addicted

did the methadone thing

he's good now

RebeloX

Feck, I've been trolled xD

OMGtechy

that's good to hear

RebeloX

12:19 AM

Nvm mand xD

OMGtechy

xD

Jon

still he is kinda weird now

kinda jambled his brain

RebeloX

xD

OMGtechy

I've done some drugs in my time; my advice is, don't

Jon

i did lsd

in the 90s

RebeloX

12:20 AM

I did cannabis but yeah

not my stuff xD

OMGtechy

gateway ;)

Jon

cannabis one day... sucking cock the other

OMGtechy

yep

Jon

its horrible

but yeah, i experimented with lsd for a bit

did it a few times

saw some pretty crazy shit

RebeloX

Is it good?

ahahahahah

Jon

12:21 AM

saw my brother's hair turn into snakes, and fight each other

looked at myself in the mirror, and wondered who the fuck i was looking at

OMGtechy

I've had weed, skunk, cocaine, dex, pips, some strange white power containing fuck knows what, ecstasy and probably missed something

RebeloX

what the f

ahahahaha

Jonathan

ketamine

RebeloX

I would like to try

OMGtechy

@RebeloX seriously, don't

RebeloX

12:22 AM

I'm going to be a fucking crazy old man

Jon

i like this guy

OMGtechy

especially don't try the "legal highs"

RebeloX

Crazy shit ahahah

OMGtechy

IME, they tend to be worse for you than the illegal stuff ...

RebeloX

the problem is that sometimes the guys that are going to buy drugs

they can be being the drug + something else

and that something else fucks everything xD

OMGtechy

12:25 AM

If you get an illegal drug, assume there's something else in it

rule of thumb

it'll get cut somewhere along the line

except when you grow it yourself, but that's not a good idea either

I used to order some of mine from labs as "research materials"

Jon

back in the 90s, they laced drugs with really bad stuff.. i can just imagine what they do nowadays

OMGtechy

ant//rat poison is a common one

Jon

mescaline was often replaced with horse tranqualizer here

OMGtechy

i.e. ket?

RebeloX

That's very bad stuff

Jon

12:27 AM

not sure, we called it horse tranq

basically sleeping meds for horses you can get at a vet

they put it in powder and sold it to kids

kids snorted it

OMGtechy

I got put off the whole drugs thing when I watched my friend almost die due to drugs

Jon

oh i was exposed to the manufacturing side of it early

and it opened my eyes

quite frankly, everyone should be more aware of it

OMGtechy

indeed

I have a criminal record for assaulting a drug dealer too, so it can have more indirect effects

Jon

wow lol

OMGtechy

Worked out in the end, wouldn't be working in software otherwise

Jon

12:30 AM

:)

RebeloX

People must understand what they're doing

OMGtechy

funny how things work out

Jon

experiences shape a person

i feel sad for some

OMGtechy

It was more that I wasn't allowed to work with kids anymore, and I wanted to be a teacher

so that went out the window and I did this instead

Jon

you can tell they are lacking in some areas... I mean I know I am

but some people are really lacking

RebeloX

12:31 AM

People could be weak and they could be addicted to it and than shit starts to happen

OMGtechy

@Jon indeed

@RebeloX it's not necessarily weakness

a lot of people deny that they're addicted to weed, but then you take it away from them and they go mental

Jon

addiction can be anything too

food... beer.... music...

women

OMGtechy

@Jon jaffa cakes

Jon

we are born to be addicts

be aware of yourself. you fucken addict

OMGtechy

bubble nuggets

Jon

12:33 AM

bubble nuggets are a great examlpe

OMGtechy

I adore them

so good

Jon

:D

OMGtechy

so filling

must eat more

Jon

it is the best part

OMGtechy

I have had worse hangovers from them than alcohol

Jon

12:33 AM

everyone knows it

TheMuffinCoder

whoa whoa drugs?

OMGtechy

@RebeloX but seriously, don't do drugs

@TheMuffinCoder welcome to the dark side of the world

Jon

drugs are bad.... mmmmm kay?

TheMuffinCoder

wait where u guys being legit when u did drugs?

Jon

in the 90s

TheMuffinCoder

12:34 AM

@OMGtechy literally all my friends smoke weed

am the only one who doesnt do any of that

OMGtechy

@TheMuffinCoder good, don't

Jon

in the 90s, there was so much LSD it was stupid

and yes legit

and dont want to :D

this is good :D

12:34 AM

the guy that manufactured 90% of the world's LSD was arrested in 99

TheMuffinCoder

because I already have my own addiction

Jon

you can't get LSD now

TheMuffinCoder

minecraft

Jon

when I was in high school

OMGtechy

@Jon boom

@TheMuffinCoder ahaha

Jon

12:35 AM

i could get a sheet of LSD for 20$

TheMuffinCoder

whoa xD

Jon

people bought it for 5$ a hit

OMGtechy

@Jon they go for about £20 in the UK

for a hit now

if you're lucky you can get as low as £10, but it's who you know

Jon

good ol' days :)

one time i was so gone I couldn't deal with it

OMGtechy

gram of coke was about £20 last I checked too

Jon

12:37 AM

i kept trying to find portals

OMGtechy

you can get an 8th of weed for that

@Jon I'm making a note here, huge success

I always saw LSD as a very dangerous drug

TheMuffinCoder

lol i hear that in my home country Colombia thats all super cheap

Jon

it is not dangerous

it is mind bending

ama

i saw people's face melting

OMGtechy

In terms of long term mental health problems on continued use

Jon

saw spiders run up mylegs

OMGtechy

12:38 AM

it's not something I tried, I did try other trippy drugs though

TheMuffinCoder

It's hard to overstate
my satisfaction.

OMGtechy

@TheMuffinCoder :D

TheMuffinCoder

Come on jon say the next part, dont let us down :P

OMGtechy

@Jon the awkward moment when you have a 12 hour trip of horror

Jon

saw lights melting to the dancefloor

TheMuffinCoder

12:39 AM

lmao sounds fun

Jon

and people dancing around the melted lights

OMGtechy

@TheMuffinCoder until you think you're being eaten alive

TheMuffinCoder

@OMGtechy lol it'll always sound fun as long as I dont try :D

OMGtechy

aha ok xD

Jon

your perception just dissipates

OMGtechy

12:40 AM

dex was the craziest for me

TheMuffinCoder

i wonder what a mod would say if he saw this chat rn

OMGtechy

a mod is currently watching

TheMuffinCoder

lmao

OMGtechy

where did you think the heroin stars went? :P

TheMuffinCoder

to the moon :P

Jon

12:41 AM

quite frankly we should probably change the subject to gamedev

Althis

Agreed.

Jon

sooooo, how bout' them marios

Althis

Let me help.

TheMuffinCoder

Look at me: still talking
when there's science to do!

OMGtechy

aha

it's a free country

we're not advocating them

we're doing the opposite

TheMuffinCoder

12:42 AM

lol kids stay away from drugs!

Do minecraft instead!

OMGtechy

yes!

Jon

drugs are bad.. mmmmmmkay?

Althis

Have any of you had much luck with real time card games?

TheMuffinCoder

lol i remember playing minecraft for hours

OMGtechy

@Althis realtime?

Jon

12:42 AM

real time card games? ?

TheMuffinCoder

Forgot that i existed

yeah.

lllike?

never seen one

albinoblacksheep.com/games/drugoverdose

:D

Jon

12:42 AM

heartstone?

TheMuffinCoder

hearth stone?

jinx!

Althis

Real time, as it without turns.

Jon

NOOOOOO

OMGtechy

@Jonathan you win life just for your profile picture

Jon

flapjack?

flapjack is so fun

you making flapjakc>

Althis

12:43 AM

There is a game called Tessen.

Millenium Blades.

There was a digital one on Kickstarter a month ago as well.

Don't know if it succeeded.

Jon

well, what is your issue my good man?

we are all excellent idiots

5

possibly we can help you out

Althis

I require nothing less than 3 idiots and a bag full of cats.

Jon

hmm.... this I can procure you

go on

OMGtechy

@Jonathan omg that game xD

Althis

Well. To begin from the beginning, I am trying to make a card game that simulates cinematic RPG combat. After going through several iterations I am now going back to the drawing board to find a main core mechanics that fits the experience.

Jonathan

12:46 AM

@OMGtechy I'm almost level dead

Althis

I am thinking real time could possibly give it the adrenaline I want.

OMGtechy

@Jonathan I finished it :D

Jon

real time card game... sounds like it hasn't been done before

Althis

But it is also prone to lots of rules mistakes.

Jonathan

Nice

Jon

12:46 AM

can it even be done?

TheMuffinCoder

@Jonathan finished!!!!

Jon

on mobile?

Althis

I was thinking more on terms of cardboard.

Jon

mobile works better in a transactional type model atm

Jonathan

YESS! I died of overdose

TheMuffinCoder

12:47 AM

Me too

high five

Hey guys why did Unity Boo die?

Jon

what is cardboard?

TheMuffinCoder

lol it's cardboard

Jon

piss on cardboard... blam, it sucks

Althis

You should play more board games.

TheMuffinCoder

cant

Althis

12:48 AM

They are the inception of game design without the fancy technology.

TheMuffinCoder

I need to play more Call of Duty :D

Jon

:D

ok so cardboard == boardgame

i gotcha

what are you trying to create?

Althis

I see you got code cred.

Exactly what I said. A resolution mechanic that can run in real time.

Jon

i really love that idea

a real time card game

Althis

For example, an attack that can go through or be stopped based on the skill of the player.

Blue Bug

12:50 AM

I don't think board games are inception of game design. It may be of "some" games.

TheMuffinCoder

Am so tempted to use Unity Script...

My code is already written in JavaScript :P

Althis

@BlueBug Well, they might not be if you consider game activities, like catch and races.

Jon

honestly, I think people that have strong boardgame backgrounds are awesome

Blue Bug

Civilization is sorta like board game. It's so fun. But I see no place for boardgame in call of duty.

Jon

and can talk serious gameplay

@Almo amirite

Althis

12:53 AM

Well, my latest playtest tested a mechanic that had several types of approach with attacks defences that would counter them.

Kinda like Yomi.

But it was still hard to make the math in real time.

And it didn't feel as narrative as it should.

Jon

the more you try the more you learn.

Althis

Also, people kept making mistakes on card effects, because they are hard to remember in a pinch.

So, lots of things went wrong. I am still looking into how to make a real time game that works, but I need more ideas for a simple yet narratively powerful resolution mechanic, any clues?

Jon

what are you using?

TheMuffinCoder

why doesnt monodevelop have better auto completion

Mathf. doesnt show the list :(

Jon

hahahaha

TheMuffinCoder

12:57 AM

Am i suppose to switch to VS for this?

Jon

monodevelop likes it when you restart it