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2:02 PM
@toby That eye candy <3
 
Jon
Space Pacman
 
user92578
@toby looks awesome
 
and it's completely trigonometry free
 
cos?
 
what
 
2:09 PM
You said its trigonometry free and I said cos?
 
humour is wasted on some people
 
:P
Maaaybe
 
back in my day, jokes were actually funny
 
Still a clever pun...
 
2:16 PM
if we are doing a showoff I will add a piece from my game : P
What do you guys think of the art style?
 
Cool. Is it 2D or 3D?
 
Shit that's beautiful.
 
Its all top down 3d
 
Nice
 
2:23 PM
 
Mining!
This broken 7 key is so frustrating.. Especially because its the button I need to use to write "/" -.-
 
External keyboard?
 
Laptop :/
 
Does it not have USB? =p
 
All used up xD
 
2:31 PM
USB hub? =p
 
Could do... But my desk is too small to have a laptop and a keyboard on it, then I would need to buy a monitor as well xD
 
Put the keyboard on the laptop =p
 
That would be annoying... VERY annoying :P
 
One of my laptops had a broken right arrow, eventually I had to buy an external keyboard ;p
 
user92578
@Hjorthenify and this is the smily face you pick with your "7" key broken
 
2:39 PM
@Tyyppi_77 It can be used, but its annoying because you have to adjust the button before you use it :P
 
Easier to use :\
Also what kind of layout has / on the 7?
 
Danish
 
Jon
2:57 PM
@MikolajMarcisz what is that a top down mining game?
 
Pip
3:13 PM
hey @Jon got a question for you
 
Jon
sup
 
I repeat, Reassembly is a really good game.
 
Pip
How did you thread your pathfinding stuff?
Mine puts a noticeably long pause in the draw calls
 
Jon
I didn't thread it yet -- however it wouldn't be too difficult to do
HOWEVER, you might want to consider not updating it as often
Once you have a path, you shouldn't have to update it on every frame
 
Pip
yeah, that's not the problem
the problem is how long the actual pathfinding takes, since it's all done in one frame
 
Jon
3:18 PM
eh, how long does a path take to calc?
followup question, how large is your world?
You may also want to limit the "scope" of your pathfinder area
 
Pip
depends on length. Short paths are fine, but ones over 10x10 tiles take a noticavle time
 
Jon
10x10 should be fast
 
Pip
took 5 seconds
 
Jon
i am running mine in a 50x50 -- 10 AIs on every frame no problem
 
Pip
hmm
 
Jon
3:20 PM
want me to give you the source?
 
Pip
I wonder why mine is so slow
 
Jon
man.. that grid is tiny in terms of pathfinding
 
Pip
I think you did at some point, I'm doing something similar
 
Jon
should be blazing fast
 
Pip
yeah, it is
I can put an executable on google drive or something
what OS are you running, so I can build for it?
 
Jon
3:21 PM
what os?
i can give you a unity project if you are doing it in unity
 
Pip
Uh, sure
oh shoot, I forgot to hook my transition to my button when I rewrote it
lol
 
Jon
I'll give you the project of that nodal pathfinding i wrote
or i can dumb it down if you want
i'll make a new project
 
Hey
Galaxy Miner - Survival resource gathering MOBA in a procedurally generated, futuristic setting.
(from vision doc.)
 
Pip
@Jon anything works. You using Unity 4 or 5? I haven't bothered to switch yet
 
Jon
5.
 
Pip
3:26 PM
Alright, I'll download that then
 
Core Gameplay Tenants:

- Control a mercenary piloting one of 20 mechs while you blast your way through an infinite procedurally generated world.

- Blast apart rocks to gather resources, and spend them on new technology.

- Gather as many resources as possible while facing a horde of monsters and rival players, but make haste before your exit portal closes in 15 minutes or you will have to find another one and risk losing resources.

- It’s dangerous to go alone - take your friends! Play on solo worlds, or with teams of up to 6 players. Beware, you are not the only one who has teamed up.
 
Jon
@Pip you should it unlocks pro features
 
Pip
coolcool
 
Jon
I'm writing a pathfinder demo in unity
lol
 
@MikolajMarcisz Sounds ambitious, but pretty fun!
 
Jon
3:28 PM
looks like its off to a great start
 
Well, judging by the project we had to halt 3 weeks ago it isn't really that ambitious :D
We went short on budget and have to do something indie now. : S
 
Jon
sounds like its not your first game
 
nop : P
 
Pip
Oh man, Unity on SSD or HDD.... hmmm...
SSD it is
I only have like 60 GB left, which is annoying
 
I sometimes feel it doesn't really matter
Nomatter what you do assets take 4 years to import
 
Pip
3:32 PM
Yep
Looks like.... 10 minutes to download Unity 5.
Decent
oh, maybe closer to 15
whatever, that's fine
 
Jon
ok, i need 15 minutes anyways
 
Pip
kk
Hmmmm trying to move this into an IEnumerable function so I can use it as a coroutine..... difficult because it either needs to return something or I need to do the generation. within. the. function. oh.
 
3:49 PM
hello
 
Pip
ey
 
Been away from here a while haven't I
 
Yeah it's been a while
 
Pip
mhm
 
Any interesting projects you have been working with?
 
Jon
3:56 PM
ok pip
finished the demo
not the greatest code
 
For what?
 
Jon
unity project demonstrating astar
 
Pip
thanks
what is this?
 
Jon
its a full unity project I just wrote now
 
Pip
 
Jon
3:58 PM
oh, if you have unityVS installed you need to change it to monodevelop, or download vs2013
 
Pip
Got it
 
Well... let me start up my unty
*unity
 
Jon
or if you ahve vs2013, and want to use it, you need to install unityVS, and config it for the new install you just did
 
Pip
ah, ic
 
Jon
scene is in main folder
 
3:59 PM
I figured, thats why i figured it was a unity project
 
Jon
hmm, @Pip it seems to crash when I try to reopen it on my pc now.. wtf
 
Pip
hmmm
 
oh great. I need to upgrade your project XD
 
Jon
weird...
i can't open the zip, or the one on my drive
it was fine just a few seconds ago
 
... I open the unity scene but it is no objects in it...
 
Jon
4:02 PM
is there a Grid object?
on the left
 
No, but the Grid file is there
in the explorer
 
Jon
can you add a gameobject to the scene, and attach the Grid script to it?
then run
 
So... an empty one
 
Jon
yah
hmmm
seems I might ahve to reboot, my unity crashes for everything
lol
getting access violations
brb
 
My bad internet -_-
Well, I got a nullreferenceexception
at PathFinder.FindPathReversed
 
Jon
4:10 PM
yah something might of messed up
 
brWorld[current.position.X, current.position.Y] = current;
theres something there that is null
 
Jon
k hold up
call the gameobject Grid
if you click Assets.. you don't have MainScene?
 
I do
It doesn't open anything though
 
Jon
ok
@Pip new version, hopefully with fixed scene.
@joapet99 you try renaming it to Grid?
 
i tried that
 
Jon
4:18 PM
works great on my side
maybe it got corrupted or something
i had to reboot after i zipped it
 
reboot what, unity?
 
Jon
my pc
can you try the new one I posted?
same link
 
O.o
Yes, I already tried it
 
Jon
it corrupted my unity running instance or something
 
It says before it starts though, that the layout couldn't be loaded
So i use DefaultLayout
 
Jon
4:19 PM
what version of unity are yo uon?
 
a newer one apparently
4.6.0f3
 
Jon
5.0.0f4
proably why, lol
you would need 5 to open that project properly.
 
Still it said that it needed to upgrade it
XD
 
Jon
probably tried to convert it
and failed
 
o.o now unity has it's own download assistant?!
 
user92578
4:22 PM
I want to re-design my particle system
 
user92578
It's not fun or efficient to use
 
there is a new unity version
 
1 hour remaining -_-
 
and projects wont open up with an older unity version
 
Jon
@Pip ping me if you have questions about it
demo works pretty decent, should be self-explanatory
 
4:24 PM
1%!!! YAY!
 
user92578
I'd also love to build tools for everything, I just know that they won't be a good use of my time
 
Well, I will go back to studying box2d
 
I remember when I was living at my parents house it would take me 1.5h to get unity on my pc :D
Now it takes roughly a minute
 
I spend months getting my head round this stuff and this guy wants a solution in 1 question ...
0
Q: How to create planets

zoran404I need 3D planet models for my game. I can add objects onto the planet and add the sky by myself, but are there any good modeling tools for creating big spheres that would allow me to add mountains and rivers?

WTF!!!
 
Jon
4:25 PM
LOL
you don't see the path. wtf
 
what was that about @Jon ?
 
user92578
@Wardy "seudo planets"?
 
@MikolajMarcisz that long huh ??? do you need a new pc ?
@Tyyppi_77 yeh in other words a planet that is really not a planet in that its not to scale
its just a round rock
 
Jon
weird.
 
user92578
seudo?
 
user92578
4:27 PM
is that a word?
 
yeh
oh ok
i missed the p
coz of how its said
you say it "seu - dough"
silent p
 
Jon
wellll my gif recorder refuses to capture the path
heh
 
Pip
@Jon alright, just had lunch. Going to try figuring out this UnityVS problem
lol
 
@Wardy, what do you mean by a new pc? :D
 
@MikolajMarcisz one that can handle how shit unity is and install it like its 20 years old in a few seconds
one like mine i guess lol
achoo! unity installed!
 
4:30 PM
Oh, I was thinking about downloading it xD
It takes about a minute to install it, I have a very hardcore machine :S
 
i'm waiting on the missing part
my new screens!
should be here tomorrow
 
I should get myself a new screen, its a shame to have a titan and only use one screen :S
 
I hate waiting for online orders to be delivered :(
 
Pip
4:31 PM
ah I see
 
: p
my programmer has such layout
I feel jelly of his monitors xD
 
Jon
i have enough with 2
 
And with my 6 GB of GPU ram it would probably take on twice as many xD
For now I will cope with just one 1920/1080
 
Pip
@Jon where do I download that preview?
 
Pip
4:34 PM
thanks
 
Jon
once it his 2.0 it will be fully supported
 
Pip
cool
 
Jon
atm, its kinda buggy
i have to close it and re-open once in a while
 
btw. are any of you guys by any chance looking to collaborate with someone on some project? : P
 
Jon
an artist.
 
Pip
4:35 PM
always art
and music (somewhat less so though)
 
Jon
i'm actually looking for an artist that I can work with.
 
Pip
I'm not seriously looking, since I dev exclusively in my free time
 
Jon
lots of hobbyist out there Pip
 
@MikolajMarcisz me too
my new ones are 4k
 
4:37 PM
@wardy :D
 
i'll be driving a pair of 4k screens off 1 gpu
 
Pip
truetrue
 
should be ok
 
Jon
why a pair of 4K?
one of those puppies should be sufficient
 
pixellllz
 
Jon
4:37 PM
30inch 4k display
 
I can't buy new monitors until I move out to a new apartment, it wont fit on my desk ;..;
 
im a pixel whore
 
these are 28 inch
 
Jon
whore
 
4:38 PM
tempted to get a third just for playing eve
its like ... illegal to play eve on less than 3 screens
twitch says so
 
Anyway, coming to the question, we have 2 community managers, writer, animator, 3 programmers, 3d art machine who works like 2 guys, a designer, composer, audio designer and we are looking for an additional unity programmer/dev : S
 
Pip
I would say yes but I don't have time. Good luck
 
@MikolajMarcisz I would love that job
 
Jon
I don't want to join such a large team
 
4:40 PM
but I would suck at it
I know shit about game dev
Really want to learn it though
 
Are you good with C# and unity?
 
im awesome with c# ok ish with the basics of unity
lol
 
Jon
i'm a unity god!!!
 
Well, our Lead Programmer is a coding machine and we know unity really well
I am a beast when it comes to level design and such : S
 
so me and jon are collectively the guy you need lol
 
4:41 PM
Not really
 
I'm building virtual worlds procedurally
 
Jon
yeah i know c# too
 
that's my think atm
 
We need someone with intermediate/advanced C# knowledge
 
Jon
so we could just drop you
 
4:41 PM
@Jon i used that once too lol
 
we use procedural generation for maps : P
 
Jon
looks like bomberman
 
clones ... ouch!
that must be mega slow ?
 
Jon
hehehe
 
what do you mean mega slow?
as in, actually spawning the map~~?
 
Jon
4:43 PM
that's how I generate my maps too @Wardy
Clone the shit out of prefabs
 
ouch
 
we are using two 2D arrays
one represents the tiles the other walls
 
Pip
Clones are pretty slow, I'm pretty sure it's a bit faster to create them programmatically.
 
I must be doing something wrong by trying to make code that scales lol
 
Pip
lol
 
Jon
4:44 PM
@Pip a clone is created programatically
 
Pip
not what I meant, but no problem :D
 
all we need is a couple of prefab blocks and a ton of copying lol
 
and it generates a labirynth with 0, ones 2's etc. then it just puts an appriopriate prefab in that spot
it spawns almost instantly
 
Pip
nice
 
minecraft on steroids
 
4:44 PM
minecraft is 3d
 
yeh so are my planets
 
so we have n^ less calculations
 
can i clone 1 billion voxels like this ?
 
Jon
you are gonna wanna pool em
lol
 
wait let me do the math
 
4:46 PM
one billion will be at least 8GB's of data :S
 
Jon
just limit the number of voxels in memory at one time.
 
one billion of anything
xD
 
2.048383e+21
thats how many voxels i need for earth
assuming they are 1 meter cubed in size
 
damn it, I have lost the track of the conversation, haven't slept in 18h xD
So Wardy, wanna chat on skype? I could tell you more about the project
 
lol 8GB you'll be lucky
4.096766e+21 bytes @ 2 bytes per voxel
 
Jon
4:48 PM
don't do it wardy
 
think i need a ram upgrade
anyone got a spare 200TB of ram they can give me?
 
Jon
jgallantgames
 
ask the guys from Blizzard
 
Jon
my skype ^
 
4:50 PM
dont i already have you on skype?
 
Jon
nope
i just installed it
 
now i do :)
 
Jon
cool
 
I think i got most ppl on here now lol
 
Pip
You have me for sure
 
4:52 PM
yeh from when you guys were helping me build my engine
 
Jon
nope
 
then ascendion went all weird on it
then stopped talking to me
 
my skype handle is jojek.of.doom
 
so I dropped his code and went back to using just mine on unity
 
Jon
cool, i got a bunch of nerds on my skype now
 
Pip
4:53 PM
lol
bbiab
 
Lol
 
my skype is ultra nerdy
 
Haven't used skype for years O_o
 
Jon
well, that is why i installed it
Trying to hook up with some devs/artists
back in the day, i would use ICQ to pick up chicks
times have changed
 
Jon
4:54 PM
not a fan of the annoying ad-bars
 
I talk on skype like 3h a day, part of my job I guess
Can't really see collaborating with forreign ppl without it
 
Lol that's a crap ton of bytes: 4,096,766,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
 
@Wardy I got that on my laptop :D
 
Jon
alright, so family mario party time, bbl
 
@Hjorthenify really you, got Zetabytes of ram in your laptop ?
is your nose growing ?
 
4:56 PM
@Wardy Yeah. It's all in the pagefile.
 
so you have a raid array for your page file ?
 

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