Game Development

"I'll just nod politely"

maybe she understands

user92578

riiight...

if she covers tech all the time, and does her job well, it's possible

she's a reporter for Nature

pretty sure she has no idea

4:05 PM

Oh man there's been a lot of site activity today

I read about a different tech a while back that learned to play Mario

Or maybe it was the same

Point being it wasn't about space invaders

ever see the commercial orsen wells did?

wow..... such good coding

public IList<Vector2> FindPath(Vector2 start, Vector2 end)
{
    	List<Vector2> path = new List<Vector2> ();
    	return path;
}

Orson Welles Drunk Outtakes for Paul Masson Wine Commercial

►

I can't believe I didn't even leave myself a TODO

user92578

4:07 PM

lol :D

Ummm

Yes. Ignoring everything else I guess TODO could have been good xD

:D

The rest of it isn't that great either

changed to:

private IList<Vector2> FindPath(Vector2 start, Vector2 end)
{
    return this._pathfinder.FindPath (start, end);
}

Ahaha the code format button is pretty bad. :P

yeah

I really only have issues with it indenting too far. Everything else is pretty much works as expected

4:11 PM

Yeah, same

user92578

I want this to play everytime a compilation fails: youtube.com/watch?v=WOdjCb4LwQY

While good. I think I'd prefer this: youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

progress but not completely good yet

@Jon yea flash off and it doesnt work at all... but still crazy

4:16 PM

dood that looks better than last time we saw it

better

I'm pretty sure that there's some issues still :D

A lot of those paths were completely valid and still didn't work

did you update your tiles to display the A* comparison values visually

I did not yet

I will at some point, it's on the list

also, that purple path was supposed to go to that cluster of three nodes :P

I'm a pretty visual person, helps me conceptually grasp stuff... thats pretty much my goto debug "Trick"

it just went off in the opposite direction

Yeah, probs going to do that now

4:19 PM

I used picture-in-picture with both sources being my laptop on my monitor last night

Uugggh. Update source control: Project doesn't compile anymore

@AttackingHobo sounds like something my gfx card would have a stroke doing

I used it to have a fullscreen youtube player taking part of my screen up

What? Running 2 screens? Picture in picture is usually done by the monitor itself

@KevinvanderVelden yes. The monitor takes care of the PiP

But my computer is outputting for 3 screens

4:22 PM

@AttackingHobo yeah, was replying to @Joe's thing

Triple screens master race! :D

my integrated intel gfx cant handle 2 screens let alone virtual third screen

@KevinvanderVelden 4k Ultra Race

@Joe what virtual third screen?

the PP

@AttackingHobo you have a 7680x4320 screen?

user92578

4:23 PM

makes me really want a third screen

@Joe is done by the monitor, the gfx doesn't know anything about it

user92578

do you ever stop feeling like "I need just one more"?

it still has to push the pixels, far as i can understand

@Tyyppi_77 no, but the feeling reduces in frequency

@KevinvanderVelden no. I have a UHD screen

user92578

4:24 PM

okay, good

@Joe yes, of those 2 screens. And then the monitor goes "Well, I'll just show them at the same time"

@KevinvanderVelden His GPU can't do 2 screens. so it can't do 3 screens

@AttackingHobo which is despite marketing 2160p

and hes talking about a third screen

user92578

@AttackingHobo How big is the monitor (in inches)?

4:24 PM

2 mins ago, by AttackingHobo

But my computer is outputting for 3 screens

@KevinvanderVelden Yes its exactly 4x1080P in pixel count

28

@AttackingHobo yes, and he is, as far as I can tell, talking about a third virtual screen

user92578

that's big

@AttackingHobo so it's 4 kilopixel? That's tiny!

That's like, 64x64 pixels

1080P is a monitor resolution

I have 4 times 1080p pixel count

@Tyyppi_77 its like having 4 1080p monitors together.

4:26 PM

so hes outputting 3 video sources. the virtual hardware receives one the physical monitor A another monitor b another... thats all i was trying to get at

Which is 2160p, not 4k

@Joe the PiP only requires 2 sources, but yes

@KevinvanderVelden Its not "true 4k" but its still called 4k

@AttackingHobo and that is wrong. Don't let marketing fool you

4k is a standard, 2160p does not match that standard

Anyway, hometime!

dude I know. calm your tits

Then don't defend it =p

4:28 PM

@Joe my integrated AMD can handle 3!

I could handle 3... if I WANTED 20fps on the desktop

I do not :/

poor old mac mini

going to have to take him out back soon

I can handle three without too much stress. Two is no stress at all

They're not super huge though

my massive video cards do just fine driving my 1920x1080 23 inch dell monitor.

I should probably upgrade my monitor sometime

@Almo I got this for $399 when it was on sale

newegg.com/Product/…-‌24-009-659--Product

@AttackingHobo 3840 x 2160 :P

I do realize that's 4k (but not TRUE 4k :P )

4:38 PM

So I've got a totally incomplete 2d platformer, taking some crazy strategy of building the final enormous boss + level first and improvising from there... taking votes on graphically what that should be... current leader is "Space Octopus" runner up "evil robot"... no suggestion can be too ridiculous

@joe A sentient fractal

hmm interesting

I wonder how good thatd look animated in pixel art

which is better?

nodes[i, j] or nodes[i][j]

for what?

also, SearchNode[,] or SearchNode[][]

just in general

4:43 PM

neither

they just act the same?

use a 1 d array with a helper function to lookup

Wouldn't that be significantly slower?

No. If the compiler is worth its salt, it will inline the function, and the 1d array is more cache friendly

cache misses, motherfuckers.

:)

4:48 PM

wuhwuhwhat?

@Almo Yup. Cache friendly data structures are super important

2

God damnit I never reset the parents of the nodes

:/

There are the nodes that are being searched

@Joe @Almo @SpartanDonut

can you also show the numbers on the path

Dang it

they are, but they're being drawn over

or just make your path transparent?

4:50 PM

yeah, sure

whatever the easiest thing is

Just made the paths 100 A instead of 255

Those paths aren't too bad actually, even without a tiebreaker

@amitp THANK YOU SO MUCH

:D

see if you cant reproduce a bad one and check the #s

yeah, the bad ones are stupidly bad since I never reset the goals or parents

user92578

BTW Am I the only one who uses braces with case statements?

4:53 PM

maybe

I do:

switch (blah)
{
    case 1:
        whatever
        break;
    case ...:
}

user92578

so no you dont

@Tyyppi_77 I do... occasionally

yep

user92578

I really feel that the switch-case syntax is odd

Mostly when I wish the case to have it's own scope

4:56 PM

@Tyyppi_77 I don't use braces with cases

unless as plow says you need them for scope to define a variable or something

user92578

I think this should be the switch-case syntax:

user92578

switch (what)
{
	case (firstCase)
	{
	} // No need for breaks.
	case (secondCase)
	{
	}
}

user92578

But I know there are some uses for the flow trough thing where you leave the breaks out

Many programmers actually consider switch-case fall-through to be major flaw

At least many programmers with which I've had a chance to talk to

Though I rarely use switch-case so I don't really care either way

I don't allow switch fallthrough in my code

it's a dangerous practice

if you really want the same code in several cases, stick it in a function

user92578

5:01 PM

no there is a algorithm that is beatifully implemented with case falltrough

user92578

I can't remember what it was tough

I've seen some people use it really well

Duff's Device is bad coding

user92578

really?

it solves a non-problem given today's hardware

it's clever for sure

user92578

5:02 PM

oh that is just pure code duplication

but it's not maintainable code

@Almo true

it was amazing for the time though

Alright, calling pathfinding good enough for now

I don't know if I should leave the trend out for the paths to not follow each other

hm

Also, I thought I was being clever here:

private IList<Vector2> GeneratePath(T goalNode)
{
	List<Vector2> path = new List<Vector2> ();
	T curNode = goalNode;
	while(curNode != null)
	{
		path.Add (curNode.Pos);
		curNode = (T) curNode.Parent;
	}
    ResetNodes ();
    path.Reverse ();
	return path;
}

I need version control for my local shit :P

I gon dun broken my sand physics :P

I was trying to encode the physical behavior into the first component.

Seems I shouldn't have done that. :P

Noice

user92578

Aight /godmode 1 now revives you if you're dead

5:14 PM

nice

I'm a bloody moron

We all are

user92578

^^

Especially SpartanDonut

Don't ping him. He'll just whine.

Whiny little girl ...

user92578

that was one of the first times I've actually laughed out loud in here :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

5:15 PM

spent last hour trying to figure out why my map build system is throwing NullPointerExceptions even though I autowired the asset system into it

@Tyyppi_77 :P

@SpartanDonut Mindy is insulting you ;P

Noooo ...

turned out that i was building the map inside the constructor

locates his umbrella

user92578

5:15 PM

soon the hell will break out

where entities aren't autowired

lol

user92578

is waiting for the drama to happen

user92578

no? anyone? spartandonut?

user92578

stupid instafox, thinks I want it next to my url bar after every update

5:19 PM

Oh man this feels so good

So good

oh man

hahahaha

5:39 PM

@William'MindWorX'Mariager lol thanks

@SpartanDonut <3

You're the best!

I was only kidding good sir!

I know

user92578

I gotta leave for my band rehearsal, but I must state that I had a very productive day: cleaned a bunch of code, fixed a couple of bugs and implemented the gun pose for climbing

user92578

cya!

cya bro

@SpartanDonut approval on the pathfinding? Look good?

5:51 PM

I don't see any circling back so I'm guessing so

Does it handle obstacles?

@Pip :D

:D

I actually don't know yet, I'll find out

(new map for pathfinding and new tile type, GO!)

One small step for Pip, one giant leap for Pipkind.

:D

hm

Rock tile or lake tile

which one?

*Mountain tile

?

btw whilst your pathfinding clearly works, it could be better ;)

actually, do you allow diagonals?

5:58 PM

nope

I might at some point

bbiab, getting in car

bblabbb to you too

6:21 PM

Net neutrality!

yeah

I posted that yesterday where you been!

:)

So Nidalee op eh?

can be anyway

we got unbelievably wrecked by her last night

yeah

6:23 PM

our lane went fine otherwise

she just got out of control

just did a ranked treeline me sona, rek'sai,evelynn vs fizz viktor nid

we smakked them

but viktor looked like he was either a super-noob or feeding

so yeah, i got to play dj sona. honestly, I was hoping at least her idle animations would sync with the beat, and they don't. :( But I can understand why, that's kind of a massive pain to set up if your audio system isn't already made for it

i liked the tunes and the look of the anims

good shit

yeah

i play the ambient one first 10 min, then the next up for 10 min, then the hard one till the end

there ya go

:D

6:26 PM

Or at least until a team wipe :P

hjahah yeah

my webhost fixed their ssl shit

they must have looked and found a missing intermediate cert, which is what the indications were in my investigation of the problem

Now if only my ISP would fix offering no higher than 6Mbps service to my house

lol

Solution: change ISPs

he can't

Not always, no.

6:35 PM

Solution is to move

Sometimes it's not the ISPs fault, the line is just bad.

Which isn't a convenient solution

I lived my teens in a place with a 0.03Mb/s (yep, megabit not megabyte) download speed

When we got 2Mb/s I was like WOW

lol

Downloading games was not fun.

6:38 PM

Downloading games isn't fun

Media is outgrowing my internet

Fair point.

ISPs using megabits vs megabytes feels so... dirty :/

O HAI, 40GB game here. ffs...

To give Origin some credit... they seem to have some really good compression or somethign

I only have downloaded like 3... but they all were much faster than I expected

@Pip I had to educate a salesperson on the phone what the difference was, he said he had a degree in something related to networking and then didn't know that...

Mail order degrees

6:40 PM

lol

And that's why he went into sales lol

@SpartanDonut cool

I just worked on Envio for the first time in over two weeks, and got something done pretty fast. Feels good :D

After I move some config stuff into another file, I have to come up with the next step :D

Dang, I actually don't know what I want to do next

Make a list

Alright

7:00 PM

am I just having one of those days? or did the whole internet break

itunes.apple.com/ca/app/home-boov-pop!/id901517123?mt=8

another game from our studio

it's a puzzle game, and there's an android version

called "Home: Boov Pop"

Nice

@Joe internet is broken. Go out and do something.

its not so much broken as... just playing tricks on my brain? nothing I do is functioning as expected today

Are you supporting IE6 today? If yes then unexpected functionality is expected.

lol

7:06 PM

well heres a start... my colleague took the liberty of updating my schema

should ask if he would like to update my code while hes at it... lol

Well ok then

ooh ouch

- You don't fuck with another man's schema.
- You don't.
- You just don't do it.

(substitute schema for car, and this is an exchange from a movie)

interesting: afa.net/bigotrymap#

there were good intentions but yea.. idk its one of those weeks

a map of those in the US who are attacking the Christians.

let's hope Icy doesn't see that link. he'll go ballistic

Anti-christian bigotry?

Not particularly dense.

Oh, it's not acutal anti-christian bigotry.

> GLSEN infiltrates public schools with pro-homosexual indoctrination tactics, confusing many young people and misleading them into making dangerous and unhealthy lifestyle choices that will negatively affect their entire lives.

7:17 PM

Now you've got it.

They have chapters of the ACLU down. American Civil Liberties Union because they protect peoples' rights, and provide legal assistance to people who need it. Like if you're discriminated against because you're gay, the ACLU will help you sue.

@IcyDefiance @SpartanDonut what you guys think: kotaku.com/…

supposedly lots of junglers are pissed about the recent nerf to champion-hitting smites.

I see it as a big buff that's being toned down.

I vote play it out and see how it actually impacts

Also that switching thing they're complaining about... I was amazed they let us do it free, and now they're putting in a cost

again, a buff scaled back is not necessarily an overall nerf

@IcyDefiance chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/20270949#20270949

:D

The 250 gold switch? Sounds like the end of the world /sarcasm

hahaha

7:26 PM

I don't know much about current jungle meta

I only know a little

ban jarvan, and take one of the items that lets you smite champs

I honestly think that as long as there still is a decent pool of viable junglers... it really doesn't matter

yeah

there are claims that there aren't

but I don't really know

Right. And listening to a few people on the internet whine about a very new patch doesn't help. Play games, try new things, see how it goes.

:D

7:28 PM

That came out wrong. It was more targeted to the media and not us as media consumers

And the people doing the whining....

I think I knew what you meant

I reread and it sounded like a bash at you for posting it so I wanted to remedy that :)

ok :)

7:41 PM

How does that look?

God damn imgur compression :P

It looks better as a png (uncompressed)

Oh man that AFA site is fun to read. You can buy a Behold Your God Starter Package for only $100.

lol

i sent them a prayer request.

I sent them a prayer request saying i prayed for the people ignorant enough to think we atheists are their enemies.

Hahaha can you seriously send the prayer requests?

lol

7:52 PM

afa.net/resources/submit-a-prayer-request

I gave them my third-tier email address I use for these sorts of things

I wonder if your request will be covered in the mid-week staff devotional service. :P

I suspect not

hopefully they'll recognize the irony implied by me saying that an atheist was praying for them

> Join nearly a million AFA supporters who wish to be informed of emerging cultural issues affecting the morality of the country, the media, and our own families.

A million people? Seriously? Their blog posts all have 0 comments.