Game Development

SpartanDonut

12:01 AM

The piano one was my favorite. Overall I don't understand the fascination though

To each his own

OMGtechy

yeah, it's not for everyone :)

If you want to push the boat out, take a look at serialism

Schoenberg specifically

Joe

12:14 AM

how much real time passed here you think? youtube.com/watch?v=i8ewKoxc6v4

SpartanDonut

12:49 AM

Time is relative

SpartanDonut

1:42 AM

STEAM IS DOWN D:

SpartanDonut

1:55 AM

Worst 10 minutes of my life

(I kid)

AttackingHobo

Got my 4k monitor for my house set up today!

SpartanDonut

wewt

AttackingHobo

:D

I don't feel cramped anymore while I'm home!

Joe

Pip

2:17 AM

lol

Almo

@SpartanDonut Minimalism is like a drug in reverse. The less you have, the more extreme your need for even less.

ok how the fuck they know when to do the stop about 15 sec after this

Steve Reich Drumming - Portland Percussion Group

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SpartanDonut

2:37 AM

Via the sheet music they memorized is my guess :P

Almo

hahah

@OMGtechy

The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds

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the guitar sounding thing there is from

SpartanDonut

More seriously the patterns themselves probably aren't terribly complex and it's a matter of counting without letting the other guys throw you off

Almo

Steve Reich - Electric Counterpoint (full)

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@SpartanDonut could be, yeah

AttackingHobo

@Almo sick tunes

Almo

:)

AttackingHobo

2:41 AM

I am going to judge all games for how well things look at 4k now. ESP menu elements.

Almo

be prepared to be disappointed in anything that's not vector :)

AttackingHobo

Naw. Things just need to get used to it and ship nice assets. Or yeah. vector.

windows 8.1 is like 4k?!?! I got this bro. *enables shitty scaling on 4k monitor automatically

I had to search to figure out how to disable it. It wasn't really obvious, and IDK if its something that should on by default. I could see it helping with a small display but I bought this monitor specifically to have to have to have a pixel dense display.

Almo

I still have to track down the Cure song he got the rimshot sequence from

Heard it once as my wife likes the Cure, but I can't find the track.

AttackingHobo

Imagine how sharp a 14inch 1080p screen would be

SpartanDonut

could probably cut diamonds with such a monitor

AttackingHobo

2:49 AM

imagine 4 of those taped together with magical tape that removes the bezels between them

I want to touch the game

SpartanDonut

40 inch monitor? damn

AttackingHobo

no

28

SpartanDonut

Yeah I don't know what I was thinking lol

too late for math

AttackingHobo

I think 40 would be too big

unless you wanted to sit far away from it.

I was playing cs earlier and I could see the tracers so clearly, I'm gonna try some quake live

Joe

3:09 AM

those pool balls are so shiny that on 1080p I can see there's no player reflection :O... but on 4k I bet you could see your own ghost from the future in them

Almo

that looks really dorky

AttackingHobo

3:25 AM

@Joe there is no player at all to reflect

Almo

no billiard ball I've ever seen is that fucking shiny. :)

AttackingHobo

These are specially polished for thousands of hours with child labor

Joe

I NEED TO HAVE IT

SpartanDonut

3:50 AM

@Almo you've never been in a pool hall so well lit

Joe

anyone with verizon fios know how to nuke search assist bs thats screwing up my local dev

user4704

Change your name servers?

user4704

Er.

AttackingHobo

change dns servers

@joe ^

Joe

thanks both im looking into this atm

Aidan Mueller

4:54 AM

I think it would be cool if earth was a moon of a larger planet. That would look so awesome.

Joe

tides would suck

Aidan Mueller

Maybe.

Depends on distance though.

@Joe You can't beat the view though.

Joe

I pictured something like this.. idk why, also check out my sweet mouse calligraphy...

user4704

Okay.

user4704

I need to download a game, for Mac, that was made with SFML. Anybody know of any offhand?

Aidan Mueller

5:02 AM

One sec.

Joe

Im afraid I do not sorry

Aidan Mueller

@JoshPetrie I think these games are made in SFML. You could look for something: indiedb.com/engines/sfml/games

user4704

Hm k.

Aidan Mueller

@JoshPetrie For mac: indiedb.com/games/rickety-racquet

If you are ever having a bad day, just be happy that ostriches don't fly.

Aidan Mueller

8:21 AM

@AttackingHobo I landed on dres, but didn't have quite enough dV to get back, so I used a fuel hack. Good mission though.

Was a 4 year mission.

Wardy

9:08 AM

@AidanMueller how do you get the blue glow effect on the edge of that?

i've been looking for a nice way to render the atmosphere of a planet when you are at that sort of position

Ali.S

9:21 AM

@AttackingHobo well, way less sharp than a 4" 1080p one :P

Mutch95

10:15 AM

So I uh died.

Jon

11:02 AM

user92578

I hate these "no computer" days

user92578

I have nothing interesting to wait for while in boring classes

user92578

And this happens once every frigging week

Jon

arent you on a compute rnow

user92578

On my phone

Jon

11:12 AM

how does a computer programmer live without a computer?

Jesus Christ

@Jon I think he feels like a junkie without a heroine

user92578

Definitely

Jon

12:23 PM

Toddler's head stuck in bridge railings in China

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how the fuck

Ali.S

1:30 PM

@Jon exactly

Jon

So apparently DX12 will support cross GPU pairing

how the fuck

tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-directx12-amd-nvidia,28606.html

The Federal Communications Commission is expected on Thursday to approve regulating Internet service like a public utility, prohibiting companies from paying for faster lanes on the Internet.

Almo

1:50 PM

@SpartanDonut :D

Jon

I HAVE MONEY, WHY CAN'T I GET FASTER INTERNET !!! FUCKEN BULLSHIT

If I have money, I should get more water pressure, and higher amp electricity pumped to my house... And super fat internet pipes

And better service in every aspect of life

Because i'm fucken better than you

The issue with wealth distribution currently, is that it is not based on your productivity

and it is ridiculously mis-distributed

Geoffrey Hug

Hey, so I posted a question about game design for puzzle games and someone said to come to the chatroom, so here I am. Here is the link to the question :

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Q: Is asynchronous challenge-based multiplayer a good idea in an infinite puzzle game?

This is really a game design question. I am currently developing an infinite puzzle game where you place blocks on a grid and have to make them disappear to score points. Scoring points will allow you to pass levels and the higher the level, the more slots of the grid are blocked or filled with ...

SpartanDonut

@Almo matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/…

@GeoffreyHug challenge could be fun but I'm not sure how it would work? Play one match and go for a high score? Take turns eliminating blocks? You'll have to elaborate

The words with friends style multiplayer is really popular so if you can make the concept fun it's probably a good idea

Assuming a mobile platform

Geoffrey Hug

2:11 PM

We were thinking you challenge someone, make your game score as much as you can then the other tries to beat your score. And yes, mobile platform it is.

SpartanDonut

It could be fun. Personally not for me but that's ok :)

Geoffrey Hug

Or maybe it could be a set of games and then total scores for each player to see who wins.

Would the highscores/leaderboards keep you on the game if it was addictive to play ?

We are worried that the game is good but people won't stay engaged if we don't add something that make it worth coming back

Or that it would be too repetitive

SpartanDonut

I'm not your demographic so it's tough

my mind instantly goes to having some sort of in game rewards / unlockables but I don't know if that would work for your game

Leaderboards could be good

With the challenge idea you probably would want friends leaderboards in addition to global and personal leaderboards

Geoffrey Hug

Well on the in game rewards, we were thinking of giving away in-game currency as you go through the levels and also have a once-a-day random looting system such as a wheel of fortune or sth along those lines

The in-game currency would allow you to use bonuses during games

SpartanDonut

2:34 PM

If you are going to have that sort of stuff daily quests could be good

You have to perform a certain move or use a certain powerup or play a certain mode a number of times and get rewarded the currency

Almo

2:47 PM

@SpartanDonut awesome! Looks like you guys kind of dominated

Geoffrey Hug

That's actually a great idea, thanks! :D

SpartanDonut

@Almo yeah wasn't exactly a fair fight. They had guys without full runes / masteries. But for my first game vs people as Draven I'm happy with my performance

Going to learn ADC I think

Almo

cool

if you need a support, I'm there.

SpartanDonut

sounds good

Almo

I suck with Draven, for some reason :)

SpartanDonut

2:55 PM

After a few bots games I was getting pretty comfortable with 1 blade. Now to get comfortable with 2!

Almo

:D

SpartanDonut

My biggest issue at ADC I think, perfect CS aside, is positioning. I have this tendency to end up on top of the other dudes which isn't good

Almo

yeah it's tricky

the thing to do seems to be to take a step back between shots to maintain your range

SpartanDonut

Yeah I started doing that with laning. Gotta apply it to team fights yet

Almo

even if your two targets are in the same place

heh yeah

Almo

3:23 PM

really not impressed with tortoisesvn

it's not consistent about refreshing the icons to say if stuff is up to date or not

like, there are no icons right now

I'd use a different SVN client, but our clients don't understand other ones, and I'm not an SVN expert, so I can't get support on how to connect to it properly :(

SpartanDonut

I forget if you tried Ankh or if Ankh was even viable (VS Extension not always ideal)

Almo

since it's a Unity project, a VS extension wasn't the best help.

looked like a nice extension though

SpartanDonut

Ah sure

Almo

Looper was a really good movie, BTW

SpartanDonut

Yes. At the end of the movie it could have gone two ways: 1) the way that would have made it a bad movie. 2) the right way

I'm glad they opted for the right way :)

Almo

3:30 PM

hahaha yeah

Also it could have had much less about the people and more about the shooting.

that director is slated to direct starwars VIII and IX. :(

I'd rather he did another original sci-fi

Joe

3:46 PM

anyone versed in unity c# delegates and events? I feel like its a possible solution for handling combat damage "Unit1 attacks Unit2". But if every unit needs to subscribe to a (eg)"Attack" event and then check the arguments to see if they are under attack if ( target === me ){...} does not seem ideal at all

Am I thinking about this wrong?

Kevin van der Velden

It's certainly an easy way to decouple it

And I agree it's not ideal, but it might be the (overall) faster method

Joe

I am under the impression this will not be performant(sp)?

Kevin van der Velden

Hmm wait, you already have unit1 and unit2, then it's probably not faster

... what was I thinking of, I forgot

Crap

Joe

I feel like both solutions are not ideal... grab target, sift through target components, make sure it has all the right peices etc

idk Im not in love with either way

Coburn

Can you not send the attack message to only the units who you're attacking? If you're doing some sort of AoE, it does a OverlapSphere on some units and triggers and triggers and sends a Damage message with parameters?

With GameObject.SendMessage

Joe

3:53 PM

ooo thats a different thing

let me look at that code / documentation

im looking at events and delegates

THIS is exactly what I want

thanks both! @KevinvanderVelden @Coburn

Coburn

Np

Joe

I will need to prequalify whos receiving it though

"in colliision area get all objects with X component, send message"

Coburn

Yeah, you'd probably have to filter the group for that. Or use the parameter in SendMessage to do that. There's a few ways.

Joe

ooo require receiver can be turned off?

that will just fail to call the method silently nice

cool

Joe

4:09 PM

so hows everyone doing this morning

Almo

hiya joe

just trying to figure out how to get tortoisesvn to show the file status icons

they're missing (again)

tried the usual

Joe

I hate tortoise

but for some reason SVN users seem to be ok with tools of this quality lol

Almo

When I used SVN about 5 years ago on for my Mac project, RapidSVN was quite a good client for it

it's not supported any more though

Joe

there are a few paid tools I'm trying to get sprung for

SpartanDonut

TortoiseGit is worse than TortoiseSVN. Avoid it like the plague.

Joe

4:15 PM

tortoise is just what you expect for free, i guess

SpartanDonut

I really like the git built into VS

TFS is nice to work with too

Source tree seems decent but I like the VS tools better

Kevin van der Velden

shudders TFS? Nice?

Wut?

Joe

idk tortoise didnt have a visual browser I thought it should on svn... I use GitX if I need a quick gui but mostly i try and stick with command line

@KevinvanderVelden I didnt think it was bad

SpartanDonut

@KevinvanderVelden I've only worked with 2010+ versions

Joe

true I only touched the newest one myself

Kevin van der Velden

4:18 PM

It is almost as capable of source control management as subversion

Which is to say it's better than storing copies in folders with dates

SpartanDonut

Are you going to make me beg for an explanation or is that coming?

Almo

tortoise does have a browser

Joe

like that?

Almo

bbc.com/news/technology-31619913

Apple hit by patent suit from a firm in the Virgin Islands that makes no products

Apple calls for "patent reform" hahah after their patent nonsense, that's pretty funny.

ooh the court says apple's infringement was "willful", so the penalty was huge. half a bil.

the owning corp of this patent will go after Samsung next, in a related suit

SpartanDonut

Alright I guess I have to accept TFS is bad because Kevin says so

Joe

4:22 PM

I try not to get worked up, but that tech patent stuff is all bullshit

Almo

TFS = ?

That Fucking System?

SpartanDonut

I'm open to hearing why people have their opinions and just as open to changing mine... but only when people give good reasoning

@Almo exactly :P

Team Foundation Server

Almo

he may be afk after having said it :)

is that MS tech?

SpartanDonut

MS Source control / project management solution

Joe

or hes writing a giant murderous wall of text rebuttal

Almo

4:24 PM

haven't used it

but I know a company that does

I interviewed there

and they use 100% MS tech for everything

SpartanDonut

I think the latest version of TFS even supports git repos

So whats the problem?

Kevin van der Velden

@SpartanDonut oh no, got distracted by work

Almo

even picked their corp colors based on the XP physical delivery folder (orange and blue)

Kevin van der Velden

@SpartanDonut well the main problem IMO is vendor lock in, is it a stand alone app with a open protocol that is cross platform?

SpartanDonut

With the latest version I think you can use any git tooling you want

Kevin van der Velden

4:25 PM

Oh that's fancy

SpartanDonut

The other features are available in the browser

Almo

So TFS could be "nice" but be "vendor-locked-in" and you'd be annoyed by it, which we understand, but it could still be nice to use.

Kevin van der Velden

It could, but when I used it (a few years ago, small company, 3-4 people) it wasn't in my experience

Almo

I never got to find out; didn't get the job

SpartanDonut

Were you on VS 2010 at that company?

Almo

4:27 PM

they needed someone really good with MVC, and I had just learned the very basics 2 days before the interview

Kevin van der Velden

I can't remember with certainty what it was that caused me to hate it (except the already emntioned things)

Almo

they said I did really well for someone with a few hours of experience, just that wasn't what they needed.

Kevin van der Velden

@SpartanDonut I think VS 2010 was the newest version, we're generally pretty good at upgrading that

Almo

which in hindsight is a good thing, because their corp culture was a little weird

Kevin van der Velden

So, probably

SpartanDonut

4:30 PM

I don't know what changes come with the various TFS versions but the tooling for VS2010 was nice. I actually like the 2010 tools better than 2013 but that's probably just because change is hard

And yeah at least in 2013 now you can use git repositories stored in a TFS instance and subsequently the git tooling of choice

Almo

I don't know... at least two VS interface things have gotten worse over time.

SpartanDonut

Close some tabs and you won't have such a hard time :P

Almo

hahaha :D

we should get Icy to mid for us when i support your adc

we'll wreck house

SpartanDonut

Your ADC is most likely better at this point

and possibly my support

Kevin van der Velden

You should all just switch to dota so I can play with you guys =p

Almo

4:33 PM

sure, but I'm also a good support, and you're a good support, and good supports make better adcs.

SpartanDonut

I don't think I've seen you play support because that's where I sit

Almo

so I think we'd play well together

SpartanDonut

Maybe

Almo

Icy roams bot really well when he's mid

SpartanDonut

I think I'm still in tunnel vision mode for ADC

A little bit anyway

Almo

4:33 PM

:)

SpartanDonut

Need to make CSing more second nature yet

Almo

yeah

once you do, then you need a switch to turn it off when you support :D

SpartanDonut

Especially as Draven xD

Almo

Places to go, me to see!

SpartanDonut

I want to try Kallista yet but otherwise I think I'll main draven for now

Almo

4:37 PM

I don't recommend Kallista

she's very hard to play well

playing her well means hopping after every shot, and as your AS goes up, that becomes very difficult

got my tortoise icons back

I was going to Z:/mydirectory

SpartanDonut

Well my brother told me to not play Draven because he's very hard to play well but he really like Kallista.... so I don't know what to believe anymore. Play it myself and make my own decisions :D

Almo

instead of D:/mydirectory

tortoise is not set to do network drives with the icons

@SpartanDonut Draven is hard to play, but not in the way Kalista is. :)

anyway, if you do play her, lemme know how you get along with it :)

I played a couple games, and decided I just couldn't make use of her talents and it was just hampering my play

same reason I don't get along too well with Mordekaiser: I'm not good at managing two units, so a part of the ult's utility is wasted on me

SpartanDonut

Yeah I hear ya

Almo

Thrall is free this week

holy shit he's fun

SpartanDonut

:O

Almo

4:42 PM

dealing damage 5 times with a spell heals you

chain lighting hits a bunch of times

the wolf goes THROUGH minions, so you can get 2 or 3 heals off one wolf

and E is three quick melee hits

Joe

@Almo @SpartanDonut I saw the graphics overhaul they are doing I was impressed

Almo

so you're kind of invincible as long as A) you have mana B) you're not stunned

which graphics overhaul

Joe

i guess i should say Art

SpartanDonut

Nice

@Joe LoL?

Joe

yea

Almo

4:43 PM

you mean the splash art and textures?

or the map redo?

both

ok :)

all three even

Yeah it's different. For the better but there is a weird transition while some assets are old which don't mesh so well with the new

Joe

I think thats probably normal

Almo

4:44 PM

I feel like they're trying to hard for ACTION with the new poses in the splashes

Joe

either gotta phase it in or wait

Almo

Joe

well Sivir is boss so its ok

Almo

Just looks weird to me

Joe

look at the old stuff though

Almo

4:45 PM

yeah I know

some of the launch art actually borders on bad

Joe

very

Almo

and that's only 5 years ago

Joe

Karthas was awful lol

laughable

SpartanDonut

@Almo I think there is a site or blog on something like this lol

Almo

:)

this one I like (and bought)

Joe

4:47 PM

but the art direction on summoners rift the new creeps the bot and top "backgrounds" all much improved

I was watching my brother play and was impressed... well actually I said "took them long enough" but still

GnomeSlice

I threw together this simple fixed-width pixel font for fun, free for anyone to re-use if they want. http://t.co/xpSU5eKKQu

Tweeted by eggboycolor on February 25, 2015 at 4:33 PM

Almo

It's really weird that I'm good with Orianna. She's one of the harder ones to play.

SpartanDonut

So here is one of the posts I was thinking of (nude 3D model - nothing inappropriate though) gizmodo.com/…

Aidan Mueller

@Wardy You do realize that I didn't make that game, right? :P

SpartanDonut

The other one I was thinking of was Escher Girls Tumblr - eschergirls.tumblr.com

Almo

4:52 PM

wow

SpartanDonut

Doesn't seem much of interest on the home page but people will redraw poses to make them realistic and whatnot which is what caught my eye when I first saw it

Aidan Mueller

But I do know that if there ever is a glitch where the planet isn't rendered, you just see a big circle that is mostly white in the middle that fades to the color of the sky.

Almo

the new Vi art has that leg problem you see at the top of the escher girls page: