Game Development

SpartanDonut

1:04 AM

Chat has been dead today

SpartanDonut

1:22 AM

Item Abuse 3: The Finale (The Hardest Super Mario World Level In Existence)

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Jon

i posted that this morning

Pip

@SpartanDonut yes

Jon

I posted that exact video this morning

it is mind boggling

Pip

@Wardy nice

SpartanDonut

@Jon Totally missed it xD

Awesome though

Jon

1:30 AM

awesome until you realize it is fucken ridiculous

no man would be able to pull that gameplay off

SpartanDonut

1:41 AM

lol no

Pip

ofc not

SpartanDonut

THE yellow turtle shell bit was my favorite part

You're just sitting there the whole time wondering what the purpose of it it's going to be and it's just for one last tiny little hop that you would otherwise be doomed without

Jon

2:09 AM

SpartanDonut

wazzat

Jon

a photograph

of some trees in a sand dune somewhere

SpartanDonut

holy shit upon closer inspection I believe you

Jon

photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/…

SpartanDonut

awesome

Jon

2:13 AM

yes... this is quite the photo

i am inspired

SpartanDonut

I think NatGeo's photo of the day will replace my current lack of a home page

Jon

i set that as my wallpaper, heh

Pip

nice

SpartanDonut

I love surreal photography

photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/photo-of-the-day/…

Jon

the entire slideshow on that site is sick really

which you should spend time and go through

anyways, bedtime for me

SpartanDonut

2:17 AM

Already on it lol

Pip

night

SpartanDonut

later dood

Almo

@SpartanDonut yeah that was really the best bit

SpartanDonut

Makes ya grin a little

Oooh I like how this kind of web site works: demo.paper-leaf.com/alton/standard

Almo

@SpartanDonut you there?

SpartanDonut

3:18 AM

So ASP.NET 5 officially sounds amazing on paper

Almo

kids won't even know what that means

"on paper"

hahaha

SpartanDonut

oh god haha

SpartanDonut

3:52 AM

Man I really need a project but nothing motivates me

Icy Defiance

wanna join Mick and me in getting C++ and C# to play nice together?

they really don't like each other, especially on Windows

SpartanDonut

That requires me to care about C++ and I just don't lol

Icy Defiance

actually nvm I just gave up

SpartanDonut

But that's the problem. I don't care about much

haha xD

Icy Defiance

there's always project euler. the problems are boring, but progression is mildly addicting.

it's like runescape all over again, shitty graphics included

SpartanDonut

3:55 AM

could be interesting

Almo

@IcyDefiance hahaha

SpartanDonut

I could pursue gamejam site again. Just realized no one has tried to coordinate the winter one... think we missed our window here

Icy Defiance

pfft there's still snow outside

too much snow

SpartanDonut

too much wind

snow is fine

Icy Defiance

no it should never get colder than 60 F

SpartanDonut

4:02 AM

You live in the wrong state

I'm still pretty comfortable in 10 F. I don't complain about 0-10 if the wind isn't blowing. Negative sucks.

I'd much prefer 60 F +

Icy Defiance

I'm comfortable in 10 F if I'm working hard. Like, harder than skiing.

SpartanDonut

But I've at least come to accept that I live in Wisconsin and have chosen to tolerate the weather accordingly

Icy Defiance

I'm not living in Michigan by choice...yet... :P

SpartanDonut

Fair enough lol

Almo

i like it when it's 45 and no wind

Joe

4:33 AM

Koji Igarashi says when working on castlevania they had a rule... the programmer who developed a boss was required to defeat their boss without taking any damage

6

lol if they couldnt that boss was nerfed

Icy Defiance

god I hate league sometimes. I worked my way back up to S3, and since then I've lost more LP from dodging than I've gained from winning, just because fucking everyone is a troll.

Almo

:(

I need to play a few games with you again

Icy Defiance

lol I actually got promoted 2 divisions at once, from S5 to S3, so that was cool

like, I finished the promo series to reach S4 and it put me in S3 instead

I just need a different game to play when I get pissed at league

Almo

:D

HotS would be good

I'm Rank 28 now (you start at 50)

really i should go sleep

Icy Defiance

still don't have a beta invite to that :(

Almo

4:48 AM

see you :)

Icy Defiance

o/

Aidan Mueller

7:44 AM

I heard this the other day:

"Due to budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off".

Jon

11:01 AM

Самый ехидный ребенок на свете! Child laughs as Troll

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Wardy

1:01 PM

@Pip not bad huh

user92578

1:24 PM

"Yeah, just check the details in a document on the school network that will totally be available to you and you definitely don't have to do stuff based to that document"

user92578

What's the thing with school staff and computers?

user92578

Lack of education?

Lokkij

1:49 PM

Why in the seven hells must updating the AIR SDK in Flash Builder be so goddamn difficult?

Almo

2:01 PM

because they wanted to add an eighth hell

Joe

good morning gdse

Jon

sup

i wanna make a game with a log of gibblets

Gib (video gaming)

Gibs, short for giblets (pronounced "jiblets"), is a humorous term referring to the variably-sized body parts ("guts"), fragments, and offal produced when non-player characters or game players are damaged or killed in video games. Adrian Carmack has been credited for coining the term "gibs". To "gib" one's opponents (pronounced "jib") is to hit them with such force (often with explosives) that they rupture. == Use in games == Gibs feature prominently in many shooter games where gameplay generally focuses on killing large numbers of enemies. One of the first games in which gibs appeared was Narc...

Joe

2:35 PM

how will you log your jibs? :D

"day fifty one - many unsuccessful rockets today, the amount of chunky meat parts was unsettling"

user92578

So will you guys kill me if my enemies kill you with one hit?

Joe

no seems fine... as long as its avoidable

user92578

definitely

Joe

try it out see if it makes sense to you

user92578

I just feel like because they are dumb, they need to be "strong"

Joe

2:40 PM

I would just consider the implications and test it out

if you make the very first enemies one shot kill, how do you make them more difficult

following that logic I'm assuming you have to make them smarter? and eventually your going to have really smart fast one shot killing enemies - and idk if that sounds fun at all lol

user92578

yeah, that doesn't sound good

user92578

I'm not sure how scalable my enemies need to be

Joe

were just speculating though I think go with your gut and try it out

user92578

maybe I'll then create enemies with bazookas and targeted missiles?

user92578

maybe faster bullet shooting ones?

user92578

2:43 PM

Well I'll see how the one shot kill ones work and make some decisions then

Joe

i think you need to try all of these things totally!

SpartanDonut

3:03 PM

I'm a fan of the Mario formula which is basically if you aren't powered up you die. If you are you lose your power up.

Joe

I like where your going with this

Jon

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@Jon Seems rather obvious. To get early access.

Almo

^

or... what if you think what they have looks cool, and you think supporting the dev so they get to finish it is worth the risk

Jon

its funny because the old man has no idea what early access means

Joe

3:12 PM

@Almo I like the sound of this, but I feel like most consumers dont reason this much... "OOO SHINY GIME NAO!"

Almo

:)

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@Jon I highly doubt that. :P

I'm pretty sure the joke is that CnH don't get early access :P

I might be wrong

user92578

In C++, what happens if I call a base-class constructor twice, first from an inherited class's constructor, and then from a constructor in a class that inherits from the inherited class?

user92578

nvm, I dont need to do that

GnomeSlice

3:29 PM

Today's Listening | Synthwave / Electronic / Instrumental

user92578

3:45 PM

user92578

It sucks, but how do I fix it?

user92578

where should he put his gun?

Almo

across his back diagonally

like it's strapped around him

Soapy

^

Jon

up his butt would just be really weird

chest strap

user92578

3:57 PM

It's going to be annoying to add the diagonal gun thingy tough, as the gun is a separate instance from the player/enemy

user92578

so eventually I'd like the player to be able to pick up guns from dead enemies and maybe somesort of loot crates

user92578

and diagonal stuff in pixel art is... odd

user92578

But I'll see what I can do

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

It's not odd when it's scaled to that level :)

user92578

Turned out better than I thought:

user92578

4:01 PM

user92578

I need a godmode

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

That's what cheats are for :P

user92578

well that was easy, thanks to my nice and flexible console system!

user92578

/godmode [0/1]

user92578

that was like 9 lines of code to add the console feature and one line of code to ignore all incoming damage

user92578

4:14 PM

anyways I gotta leave for my bad rehearsal, and I'm not allowed to use the computer tomorrow, so I'll see you guys on thursday!

Wardy

4:30 PM

@Tyyppi_77 cant you jut draw it normally then rotate it ?

SpartanDonut

4:50 PM

Then your pixels are diagonal

"pixels"

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I made a GPU powered sand game: dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/992656/MindWorX.GPUDust.zip

Well, kinda. :P It's buggy and generates sand from nothing at the moment.

Almo

@SpartanDonut THAT

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

But it's interesting when it runs on GPU, since it's much much faster than CPU alternatives.

Almo

pixelart games that rotate their pixels look dorky

I was honestly (pedantically) shocked when the Wall-E end credits made that mistake. Pixar of all people should fucking know better. :)

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I think that depends.

If it's sort of how the game works it's fine.

Like Minecraft does :)

Joe

4:55 PM

@Almo i agree with this whole heartedly

Almo

I'm amazed. I've never heard anyone agree with me on this one :)

Joe

pixelart animations should be frame by frame... if your going to rotate... draw the rotation!

its also so much more ridiculously a pain in the butt to do than just rotate(33*)

Almo

yeah

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

It's pretty rare that pixel art looks good rotate though.

Almo

which is why you see it done wrong :)

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

4:56 PM

So it's a lot more work for a pixel artist.

Joe

I agree its one of the rare cases where the shortcut literally saves you 100x more work

its also a detail I dont think most people are capable of recognizing

how do you feel about lens flares @Almo lol

SpartanDonut

Almo

:)

Pixar goes to great lengths to make their movies look like they were filmed

with motion blur, etc

as such, it makes sense for them to use a lense flare

drop a Pixar film onto a 120 Hz MotionFlow TV, and BOOM looks like cheap video

SpartanDonut

5:23 PM

I'm pretty sure I saw 120Hz interpolation the other day for the first time ever. How bizarre looking

Almo

yeah it's weird

great for hoky

can see the fucking puck

horrible for movies

the ones I've seen drop frames when the scene changes enough. like on a cut from scene to scene

has to get the pipeline going again

that looks really fucking bad then

changing framerate during your movie

Lasse

5:55 PM

is 4chan bombarding the site or why is there so many such bad questions in the past hour? :(

Wardy

does anyone know how the unity sphere objects default set of verts and uv's are setup?

Almo

not me sorry

Lasse

I made a new DJ mix, about two years since the last one lol

this one was a favour for a friend, he didn't want to boil his brains with crap music so I helped him out, it's for children's party where they try to find their prematched boy-girl pairs while ice skating

some tunes are finnish, but if someone's still interested here you go: lasse.pw/rusettiliukastelut.mp3

OMGtechy

I accidentally set alt tab to close windows and it's really annoying

Lasse

lol how did you manage that

OMGtechy

6:06 PM

because I instinctivly alt tabbed to the solution page from the terminal

and I was looking at keyboard shortcuts

accidentally clicked one but didn't realise

then tried to alt tab out of it

turns out I just set close window to alt tab

Almo

hahahah

OMGtechy

Fixed it now luckily :P

gsettings reset-recursive org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybinding

annoying that my keyboard doesn't have a left super key

SpartanDonut

I exclusively use the left one. How do you live?

OMGtechy

I did beforehand too, and I'm struggling

especially since Fedora treats them as different keys under some circumstances

I have to press Super R + A to get the program search up

the keyboard layout is generally quite odd anyway

I'm emailed SteelSeries to say I've had enough of it and they're being very good about it

their first response was to offer a new keyboard with a more "normal" layout

I doubt I'll have the left windows key still, but I will have the other keys in standard positions at least

Sep 25 '14 at 19:12, by OMGtechy

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

6:27 PM

I hate thinking up parallel programs for shaders. They're so much work.

I made the Game of Life work nicely.

And the floodfill+lighting for my game.

This moving pixel stuff is more difficult :P

Might just go with encoding position in the r/g channel and then move them around like that. But then looking up other pixels wont be O(1).

I guess I could just look at the output ...

That might work nicely.

I'll give it a try

OMGtechy

Are you having a conversation with yourself again? :P

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Yes :P

OMGtechy

xD

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Just putting my thoughts out there :P

You should see me on RPG.SE :P

OMGtechy

ahaha

somehow saying it helps

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

6:31 PM

@OMGtechy, chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/11/conversation/talking-to-myself

And yeah

Lasse

monologues are the best, I used to have them too

OMGtechy

@William'MindWorX'Mariager you should make a MindWorx.SE :P

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I think it forces you to put your idea into words, which might fill out some blanks you didn't have in your head.

OMGtechy

possibly

Wardy

anyone here know how to translate math in to c# ?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

6:33 PM

Depends on the problem.

If you need to solve for a single variable, it's pretty simple.

If you need to solve for more, like x/y with two lines, it's more work. :)

Wardy

my planet rendering currently uses a unity sphere and I need to build a similar mesh with similar uv's myself

I think this math solves my problem: gamedevelopment.games1234.net/view/6353889716678058174824/…

But translating that to c# is where i would get stuck

I'm thinking I will generate quad based sections of the sphere

that way I can lod them / quadtree / whatever I want

the problem for me right now is figuring out how I would uv map either a portion of the texture or potentially I could just gen a smaller part of the spherical texture

either way its the uv mapping of a sphere i'm a little confused by

Joe

7:11 PM

@Lasse I was thinking actually about starting... working solo on a project I wonder if things get lost if no one says them out loud :/

Lasse

things probably get lost often because of that

SpartanDonut

InfoPath is the best! (not)

Saying things out loud is a great way to think

I make my wife listen to silly ideas she gives zero shits about just so I can think through it. She occasionally talks back.

Wardy

@SpartanDonut we have a saying at work

talk to scott

SpartanDonut

I like it

Wardy

He's basically one of the devs over at microsoft, I often find myself ranting at a picture of him on my desk

the rant then resolves the problem as I realise the problem half way through the rant

the up side ... no one gets pissed off because you ranted at them

but someone from microsoft got shouted at because .Net wasn't doing what i meant not what i wrote

so its all good

Lasse

7:17 PM

I need to get a rubber duck on my desk, and give it a name Steve

Wardy

The pic i have is of scott hansleman ... he's one of the mvc dev team i believe ... works mostly on the azure stuff these days though

it definitely works though

Lokkij

TIL Python has optional type annotations.

Wardy

oh crap i just realised i now have to fix my coord conversion code

i've been successfully avoiding that problem for so long

Lasse

oh crap this "hot sauce" is actually hot this time

help me

lol

I didn't expect this, usually "hot sauce" means "kid's juice"

Wardy

rofl

milk is your best friend

go now and get some

Lasse

7:26 PM

I think I can manage without for now, it just surprised me

Almo

peppermaster.com

I highly recommend Hurricane Mash and Fusion Fire.

great flavor, fucking hot.

Pip

7:50 PM

lol

Wardy

8:04 PM

hi @Ali.S

I got my first pass planet rendering working by the way

Boreal

Is it okay to talk about meta stuff on here?

Wardy

Managed to do some really peculiar things along the way though lol ...

Boreal

Because I don't know how to react to a proposed edit that is nothing more than changing word choice

Like completely subjective and unimportant things

Wardy

if you dont agree with edits reject them

some people on here are purists

everything has to be perfect for them

Pip

@Boreal ofc

@Boreal reject it if you want, it's no problem if it's subjective

Boreal

8:07 PM

That's what I figured, I just wanted to make sure

Would you say it's normal to reject anything that, while not being detrimental, is trivial like that (aside from spelling/formatting fixes)?

Pip

Eh, I've made some small edits before

Anything that truely improves the question/answer is fine imo

Boreal

I just feel like if someone were to ask a question and have their word choices messed around with they wouldn't appreciate that

OMGtechy

that's a fair point

Boreal

But then again it's a wiki, not a forum

Pip

Yep

OMGtechy

8:12 PM

if it's an improvement and doesn't change the original meaning, I'd say keep it

Boreal

I guess I'm just anxious of being handed a tricky edit like that for an audit :P

OMGtechy

aha

Pip

:D

OMGtechy

8:26 PM

Hmm, what's the definition of a type?

data type

Noun: data type (plural data types)

(computing) a classification or category of various types of data, that states the possible values that can be taken, how they are stored, and what range of operations are allowed on them

why thank you wiktionary

if someone can make a bot that does stuff like that I'd be like wowz

> Hmm, what's the definition of a type?

> Bot answers

I'll stop talking to myself now.

Wardy

8:39 PM

that would be cool actually

OMGtechy

quite difficult though

but when have programmers ever been scared by such things? :P

I mean, I'm sat here making a damn language

Turns out D has some of the things I wanted

Lokkij

What kind of things?

OMGtechy

easier meta programming of types through static if statements

I don't call mine static if, but they're the same thing

Lokkij

Sounds interesting.

OMGtechy

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Q: Why use static if in D?

I have been reading about the template system in the D language and came upon a unusual construct, static if. From what I managed to grasp it is evaluated at compile time, but from what I have searched, the example shown here did not quite enlighten me. template Factorial(ulong n) { static...

templates d

@Lokkij there's an example in there

Lokkij

8:50 PM

Hmm, pretty cool.

Ali.S

@Wardy feels nice, mostly the first one :D

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