Game Development

@IcyDefiance marathon game man

those are won by teamwork/team comp since everyone is probably full build

9:24 PM

oh yeah, the whole team raged at each other for a while and then said screw that let's just make a death dot and kill anyone who is unlucky enough to run into us

the thing that makes dota better is that there are always more items to build :)

:( rip Asteroid Outpost: more.suhfista.com/7890/4780555/home/asteroid-outpost

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@Pip the thing that makes dota worse is the relatively poor hero balancing, poor ranked system (4-man premades are allowed to fight against solo queue players), and absolutely horrible controls

you can use the same controls as LoL if you want :P

if you compare LoL champion win rates to DOTA hero win rates, Lol ranged between 42-55% or so, while dota ranges between 30-65%, or something like that.

9:27 PM

@Pip that does not make it better.

I prefer that items cap out, and it becomes a battle of will and teamwork.

it makes it "different" and some will prefer that difference.

you know when you're losing, that if you can hold out until you hit full build, they will have squandered their lead and you can stage a comeback

They do, kind of... even though there is always an item or two to build, it doesn't mean that it complements your build in that game

the games get balanced after a while, just not as much

@IcyDefiance 4-man premades can fight solo queue? really?!?

:o

according to some reading I did, yes

also, you can give items to struggling teammates if you want to

@IcyDefiance link? I have never heard of this before

I'm not finding patch notes, just a bunch of people complaining about it, like here: steamcommunity.com/app/570/discussions/0/648816743039327011/…

also playdota.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1398772 and reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/205ikx/…

9:32 PM

if dota has a smaller userbase, I can imagine them doing that on occasion to reduce queue times

pretty sure they fixed that

Also, Dota has a much larger userbase, but the amount of people playing fluctuates wildly

"Due to not being on Steam, it can be trickier to track the numbers for League of Legends. However, last time they released their stats, their peak was 7.5 million concurrent users. That’s a lot of dying Teemos. Meanwhile, Dota 2’s all-time peak is 843 024."

I don't think DotA has a larger userbase, dude

lazygamer.net/general-news/…

this article is from earlier this year

this does NOT mean LoL is a better game; only that it is, at the moment, more popular.

dota most certainly does not have a larger userbase. shit, just compare the size of their tournaments for evidence of that. I don't even know if there are any international tournaments for dota.

;( I'm close to tears listening to the album now: Asteroid Outport by Sufista on SoundCloud

In one of their infographics, LoL posted how many teemos died per hour over the previous year. It was added "(he probably deserved it)"

9:41 PM

@IcyDefiance .....

lmgtfy.com/?q=DotA+International

I have searched the entire internet, and still have no idea what "watching the beef" means. :(

I ahve not searched for it

but i still can't figure it out

@Lokkij maybe youtube.com/user/VintageBeef ?

@IcyDefiance the prize for the last International was $5 MILLION

:P

dota2.gamepedia.com/The_International_2014

@Pip Hmm. Maybe, but it seems unlikely. There's also a movie called Beef, but that's even less likely.

idk

9:47 PM

Context: "I can't sleep, so I'm watching the beef and looking for someone to talk to :("

heh, not at all related to "What's the beef?"

Ahahaha: "Used as a greeting between posh shoreditch/d4 head twats who are trying to be "down with the lingo" and think that using this sort of language gives them a cool gangsta lean."

@Pip my point is I've never heard of the tournament. with LoL that shit is everywhere on the internet.

@JohnMcDonald we'll be getting our list in 9 hours, yes?

@Lokkij eg: Yo yo yo! What's teh beef?!

9:50 PM

I just hope I find enough time for that

@Ali.S More likely between 6 and 8 hours from now, but yes

Wardy

that wasnt too bad a game for me

i died once

@IcyDefiance interesting

@Ali.S aww frick.... i have a four day weekend but am super busy :(

^

That exactly my story

9:52 PM

hopefully can actually make some time for some game dev this weekend :)

haven't done any in a while

Been working on an engine lately

@IcyDefiance Also, there's a big competition going on called the Summit

Well it started as a replacement for power point but grew over time :P

twitch.tv/beyondthesummit

Any way night everyone

9:56 PM

night

I think one of the primary design objectives for Gnar was "Make a champ more annoying than Teemo"

his VO makes him more annoying, in my opinion

Teemo's mainly annoying because of his shrooms

but he's relatively quiet otherwise

@JohnMcDonald let me know after this weekend if you want to revive the external jam site thing

Yeah. Could be a good idea eh?

Seems to be the consensus anyway

I feel like meta works fine but people have different feelings on that

Meta doesn't work so poorly, but we are sorta pushing the bounds

10:04 PM

For what people want out of the jam I agree

@Almo for what its worth, I think he may have meant Tibbers

Because I was most certainly driving when he said that

I am a little worried that if we move away from GDSE, there may be fewer participants. Fewer competitors, fewer voters, etc.

^

I should just prove out if I can make a mandatory "Log in with SE"

I managed to do it with Twitch and I believe the SE API supports it

I would think that should help

So we can still do all the announcements and everything through meta

Perhaps a post-jam survey would be a good first step. See if there really is a need to get something else off the ground, or what else needs to be improved (eg: publicity)

10:08 PM

Sounds good to me

Those AO prints look awesome

@SpartanDonut oh may be