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3:57 AM
@Lamak did you know your country has complete Civilian Town down in Antarctica?
 
4:25 AM
My answer was snarky? Well, aren't we all sensitive little tulips. Fine, I am out of here if you are all so pedantic. — user44098 4 hours ago
we won't lose much
 
 
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8:08 AM
... checking his other answers I don't get why he/she did that in this case
those are quite acceptable
 
 
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9:09 AM
You still get the upvote for the desnarkificated edit. So if you make @dezso your friend, you can continue being snarky ;). — Marian 26 secs ago
for @dezso :)
 
@Marian Nooooooooes! I am no Jack Douglas. I desnarkify only when I am in deep meditation
 
@dezso uhmm, I've heard meditation helps brain. So you should do it more often :).
 
@Marian To be honest, that might be slightly provoking. Might sound like teasing.
To clarify, I myself view it in good humour, but someone frustrated/annoyed might perceive it differently.
 
@AndriyM indeed it is. Maybe it's because I miss tomTom's flowery language?
 
9:26 AM
@Marian Well, this is what we get for coming on tomtoms' heads with all The Heap™'s might: we miss them in the end. :)
 
Anyway, I hope he won't mind, as I've given him an up-vote (the answer is good, just the tone was a bit..off).
 
@Marian I thought we established earlier that the answer was completely wrong? And I don't see how he deserves credit for someone else's desnarkification effort.
 
@PaulWhite Oops, I didn't read any of the history :/.
 
It was much earlier, in your defence.
 
@PaulWhite Assumption is the mother of all idiots. And I'm one of them :-).
 
9:31 AM
Wouldn't worry about it.
 
I assumed dezso edited it to make it correct, not only to remove the snark.
 
9:42 AM
@Marian if only I had that much time...
 
 
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11:41 AM
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Q: How do I allow remote mysql access to all users?

iamlegendI have setup a mysql server on unbuntu. The server hosts websites for my various clients. Hence, I want all of them(and any new clients) to have remote access to the mysql server. How do I configure mysql for the same? I know about the GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES command, but that would require me to i...

VtC
 
@YasirArsanukaev You want it moved here?
or closed as duplicate?
 
Well I assumed it fits better on dba.se
Not sure if there are dupes.
 
I will vote if you promise to include "Don't do that" in your answer ;)
 
Oracle dude here. You might do that however ;-)
 
Well, granting all access to all users (and remote!) does not sound a good idea.
You can also flag the answer (for migration) or just ping @bluefeet.
 
11:45 AM
INdeed, the principle of least privilege is what seems more logical to me.
@bfluefeet is one who was elected the mod at SO?
 
Yes
 
@ypercube moved
 
@YasirArsanukaev Yep. She is the one
 
s(!)he. thanks mademoiselle.
 
12:21 PM
Hello. is it possible that triggers action wont be included if a transaction ?
for example ; Im inserting into TableA. which has onInsert trigger which insert to TableB.
Is it possible that transaction will "respect" Only insertion to TableA ?
 
@RoyiNamir not likely, no
 
Ok.Thank u.
one more question please. when Im writing RowNumber over Partition.... - does the numbers are being added after (!) the table has been fully scanned ? or is it added as the result are generated?
what im trying to understand if using "rownumber" is causing the yielded rows to be SCANNED AGAIN
(in order to add the rownumber value)
 
I suppose Brendan is right and the comments related to the Singular/Plural debate can be removed?
@JNK and user44098: Please exchange emails and have your debate elsewhere or create your own site called debateexchange.com and let's keep to the topic :) — Brendan Vogt 3 hours ago
@RoyiNamir There is no guarantee that a table will be scanned. But I don't think it needs to be scanned again for the row numbers to be filled.
It probably depends on the actual expression (what's inside the OVER), indexes, etc.
 
@RoyiNamir don't think so, either. Surely a compute scalar operator would be used, but it should use the existing table/index scan. But only @PaulWhite could give you a definitive answer.
@RoyiNamir not an identical question, but I believe @Martin's answer will help.
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A: Trigger in combination with transaction

Martin SmithAn insert is always within a transaction. If you don't have an explicit BEGIN TRAN ... COMMIT or SET IMPLICIT_TRANSACTIONS ON then the statement runs as a self contained auto commit transaction. The trigger is always part of the transaction for the action that fires the trigger. If an error occ...

 
@RoyiNamir In normal situations, no. The row numbers are added row-by-row to the stream by the Sequence Project iterator. If you are accessing a CTE multiple times (a common pattern with row number solutions) that could cause multiple accesses. Need to see the query & plan to give a definitive answer.
@Marian Thanks for the ping.
 
12:37 PM
@PaulWhite At what stage the rows added ?
1. FROM
2. ON
3. OUTER
4. WHERE
5. GROUP BY
6. CUBE | ROLLUP
7. HAVING
8. SELECT
9. DISTINCT
10 ORDER BY
11. TOP
   7.5 ?
( I mean the values for rownumber over.... values)
 
@RoyiNamir That is just logical processing order. The physical can/will be different.
 
@RoyiNamir this is the logical execution order. Any implementation can do follow any order it prefers, as long it produces the same result. So, there is no answer to this.
 
Ok I assume it can't be added (for example) in phases 1..7
so can you please supply the range(!) phases where it CAN be added ?
8..10 ?
(p.s. , I always thought these were the steps.... I guess I was wrong)
 
@RoyiNamir re-read the upper comments. That sequence of steps is just for the logical processing of a query. What @PaulWhite said it's about the physical processing.
 
@Marian I read Paul's comment. but do you agree it CANT be added on 1..7 ? those steps are responsible for the data source actually.
But I dont want to troll. I will read your link. and if I have question I'll ask :-)
 
12:47 PM
@RoyiNamir Yes, stage eight or ten, logically. The OVER clause can only be specified in SELECT or ORDER BY.
 
Thank you very much.:-)
 
Why do you care about logical processing stages though?
 
pure knowledge.
 
Ok.
 
I use them a lot but i dont know to answer : " Hey , Royi , does it first got to have the rows and THEN add those rowNumber values , it hurt performance...no?"
well , I dont have answer to that. it's pretty not-professional for me to use it without knowing the +/-.
 
12:49 PM
@RoyiNamir Itzik Ben-Gan's books have excellent coverage of logical query processing. A whole chapter. A long chapter at that. Free Poster
@RoyiNamir Physical execution of a plan is typically as a stream (or pipeline if you prefer) where rows flow right to left one at a time.
 
1:05 PM
@bluefeet I declined NAA flags on this but I'm thinking the questions should now be closed 'too localized', do you agree?
 
@JackDouglas yes I'd agree. I might also remove the @bluefeet so it seems more like an answer
 
thanks, I'll do that
 
What was the "@bluefeet" all about anyway? I flagged that as NAA because it looked for all the world like a comment, not an answer.
 
@PaulWhite they were responding to my comment on the question
they had a top with not order by
Is there a reason why you aren't using an ORDER BY along with your TOP? — bluefeet yesterday
 
Oh I see it now.
 
1:09 PM
new user thinking SE sites are forums :)
 
Right. Hence NAA. But it is an A, just a VLQSA (very localized question, self-answered).
 
JNK
wow these people are sensitive
 
@PaulWhite you weren't the only one and it took me 5 minutes to figure out the link to bluefeet's comment
 
All's well that ends well. It's in the right state now (IMO), including being closed.
 
@JNK what people?
 
1:14 PM
@user44098 I won't point out the irony in calling us "sensitive tulips" for your rude language and then saying "Fine, I am out of here" when you get called on it. You're certainly more than welcome to stay, but we do have rules about this sort of thing and moderators to enforce them. — JNK ♦ 3 mins ago
^ these people ^
 
To much ado about nothing, I think. His answer was:
Huh? Should be easy shouldn't it? You just use a CASE statement, something like: ...
 
I've seen worse
 
It's not even 1.5 in Kermit's snark scale.
5
 
We don't aspire to register on the Kermit snark scale.
 
I think it merited the edit but probably not the comment from @dezso, but the touchy response was obviously OTT.
 
1:19 PM
@PaulWhite I don't mean we should let it go. Totally agree with ^^^ Jack.
 
@ypercube believe it or not, I'm JACK on my birth certificate :)
 
you mean, with CAPITALS?
 
@ypercube I agree too, but at the time it was widely perceived (in here) to be snark too far. It attracted an edit and a comment, but no flags afaik, so nothing terribly bad happened.
 
@PaulWhite a comment is more public than an edit or flag (or anything in here). I think a lot of people are sensitive to being called out in public (I know I am)
@ypercube yes :)
 
@PaulWhite FYI it merited a helpful flag, too
then the comment an other one
 
1:26 PM
Of course I don't argue with @dezso
:)
 
There was tension yesterday (in here as well) Me to blame for that, or the full moon.
 
@JackDouglas and exactly this looked the best idea at that time
 
@JackDouglas Clearly there are a range of views on this, even among the diamonds. I have other things to worry about.
 
@PaulWhite oh sure, don't stress
 
Like trying to get SSIS working with SQL Server 2014. Surely it can't be this hard.
 
1:28 PM
we are pretty much all mods on this site, diamond or no diamond
@PaulWhite it's probably because of all the new features
 
JNK
@JackDouglas I think his comment was OK. It wasn't rude, but he was telling the user that tone matters. He also edited which was great.
 
@JackDouglas Right :-/
 
JNK
@PaulWhite maybe it's a test!
 
@JNK yup, as Paul said, "...a range of views on this, even among the diamonds..." :)
 
JNK
@JackDouglas yep
 
1:33 PM
and seeing as it's not a matter of life or death I guess that doesn't matter too much!
 
My flag declined :(
 
@JNK Every time I open Visual Studio to work with SSDT/SQL Server I end up frustrated. 2012 and now 2013. Intuitive it is not.
 
JNK
@PaulWhite I liked SSDT for 2012
but I was working with SSDT 2012 with SS2008r2
I'm sure I'm doing less complicated stuff than you
I just built a cube and some metrics and whatnot
 
@JNK I eventually got to a point where I could be productive with VS2012/SSDT but it did not come easily.
@JNK No seriously I am only looking to do something very very basic.
Anyway this is all rhetorical venting on my part. I need to fight it some more.
 
JNK
good luck!
 
1:46 PM
Oh! There's an SSDT-BI as well!
Just another lightweight 1GB download
Seems VS 2013 Ultimate is not quite so Ultimate after all
 
@PaulWhite or there are even more ultimate editions
 
@ypercube And it doesn't even register in FreshPrinceOfSO snark scale
 
@JackDouglas now that somebody cleaned up some comments, the rest should be cleaned up, too
there are answers to not more existing comments
 
2:02 PM
@dezso I agree.
 
@dezso done
I didn't delete yours btw
 
@JackDouglas I don't miss it too much
 
Every step of this process is like pulling teeth. To add the ability to create SSIS packages for my existing 2014 installation, I have to download SSDT-BI and choose to install a new instance of 2014. It doesn't install a new instance of course, but if you choose "add to existing" it fails on the x86/x64 architecture check. Brillant!!!
 
the message got there for sure
@PaulWhite did you find this out by trial and error?
 
@dezso Trial, error, frustration, and finally reading through the pages of comments on a blog.
As an "experience" or a "story" it sucks.
 
2:05 PM
@dezso I'd like you to know in case you don't already that while I think the comment wasn't helpful on balance, a) I am happy to accept I may be wrong, it's just my opinion, and b) you are a top moderating user on the site: I look out for your name in flags as they tend to be particularly high quality
...along with a few others in here, mentioning no names
 
As a comment on its own it might have been less than completely helpful. Given that it accompanied a very helpful edit, seemed ok with me. Though it could have been a comment on the edit itself, I suppose. To avoid hurting feelings ;)
 
what I've only just realized is that there is a bit of back-history
 
Nothing's ever simple in here.
 
it's not
 
@PaulWhite hm, well, really
it shows that I don't edit that much lately
 
2:08 PM
:)
 
@JackDouglas and thanks, good to hear that
I don't have a goal set at 100% helpful flag history
(only because I screwed it up earlier :D)
 
Jack's just saying that the quality of everyone else's flags is very low :)
 
honestly, what I don't get is what went wrong with the user
their other answers look quality ones
 
Perhaps they had just installed SSDT-BI.
I'm about ready to shoot someone.
 
@PaulWhite I thought they didn't allow guns in NZ
 
JNK
2:20 PM
@MikeFal he's going to take their picture
And then draw a mustache on it
 
@MikeFal Well you need a licence.
 
JNK
That's a kiwi shooting.
 
@JNK bang!
 
@PaulWhite do you really have a gub?
 
@dezso No gubs here.
 
2:23 PM
gub gub
 
The firearms licence application process is not for the faint-hearted.
And, no, I don't have one.
I just wish I did sometimes when installing shonky software.
 
My brain keeps subbing shoggy for shonky. Not sure that @shog9 would appreciate that either
 
You'd get flagged for sure.
 
would someone mind sanity-checking my sys.storage_allocations query in this answer? k. thanks!
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A: SPARSE Column in SQL Server

Max VernonYou could test this using something like: USE tempdb; CREATE TABLE xc ( x INT NULL ); INSERT INTO xc (x) VALUES (CASE WHEN (RAND() * 10) < 5 THEN NULL ELSE (RAND() * 10) END); GO 10000 SELECT o.name, SUM(au.used_pages) * 8192 / 1048576e0 FROM sys.allocation_units au INNER JOIN sys.part...

 
@PaulWhite I'm more about the face punching. Much more visceral.
 
2:33 PM
@MaxVernon speaking of sparse columns - this one wants to pivot 4k columns
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Q: Set Columns or Spares Column?

user3299024I am making one pivot table from the existing table with the help of T-SQl coding. However, there are possibilities that the columns after pivoting will be more than 1024 which is existing limit for any table as of my knowledge in SQL. Moreover,I have studied that we can make up to 30000 but I do...

 
@bluefeet good lord! How would one go about deciphering the meaning in that sucker if you could have 4000 columns!
 
The end user is a fly. Compound eyes make it a breeze
 
@billinkc The end user is The Fly.
 
Brundlefly
 
2:40 PM
I had so many nightmares about brundlefly
 
@Lamak I have so many nightmares about SO.
 
I have installed SSDT-BI and am writing an SSIS package. Yay.
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Be still my beating heart
 
3:01 PM
@Lamak Brundle. Seth Brundle.
 
JNK
@PaulWhite you misspelled "Boo" there
 
say you had an angry horde of SSIS users to appease, and you had resources to fix 3-4 pain points. what would you fix?
I'm a bit calloused when it comes to things that are painful in SSIS so if anyone in channel would like to chime in, let me know
 
@billinkc error messages
to....helpful ones
 
3:16 PM
List right now is: Package Protection levels, Diff between package, Flat File Connection Managers PITA to create, Invalid Column Mapper in 2012 good step but very version 1.0. SSDT-BI being free to develop but not free to run outside of VS fouls people up. Useful errors in Agent Job doesn't exist in project deployment model. Reports in SSMS are handy until you try to copy elements out
@Lamak What are some of the top unhelpful error messages that made you think of that
 
Don't remember
 
I think it's a valid point but I'm trying to recall what messages were fairly obtuse
 
actually don't remember any error messages ever except for one from a stochastics simulator from college
where we first got like 100 errors, modified it and get only one error....the message: "too many errors"
awesome
 
That lives on with database projects
Hits 200 and says we've stopped counting but there's more
 
@billinkc i think that ssis could stand to give a bit more info with the error messages. like where should i look to resolve this D_STR -> D_WSTR conversion issue. dont just tell me the problem, at which point in your guts should i make this change? reading the source? etc.
 
3:21 PM
Boom!
If I hadn't already packed, I'd bring you some whiskey
 
you can still bring whiskey
 
Going straight from work to the airport. CRAP, and I forgot my free drink tickets
 
anywho ... what's this for?
 
Someone might have asked me for some feedback
 
ah
 
3:25 PM
@billinkc Resolving invalid columns when you change the workflow a tiny bit hasn't improved much since the last time I opened SSIS about six years ago.
 
It has. The change from explicit lineageids to the new voodoo is better. The mapper thing is a good step but it's cumbersome
 
@PaulWhite @billinkc yeah. the metadata refresh is a huge PITA
 
What @swasheck said.
 
Oh and people thinking that the CSV connection manager only accepts 50 character fields. Yeeesh
 
like there are still times i've had to completely delete the task and start all over again when i add a column to a destination table. the metadata just gets "stuck" at what it was when i started ---- even after refreshing. sometimes i can't re-map in a simple data flow task.
 
3:29 PM
See, these are things I've grown accustomed to dealing with. In cases like that, I swap out my source query with SELECT 1 AS foo which blows all the downstream components up and then revert to my original query.
But if you've used asynchronous components, then you get the joy of fixing all that or in the case of adding new fields, having to go back in and add them
 
fair enough.
 
Still a valid pain point for people, see that come up on the forums enough
 
4:04 PM
has brent always been this surly, or is he just getting grumpy in his old age?
@PaulWhite ... off the top of your head, is there any reason you can think of that would cause an otherwise sql server (save for the tests i'm running) would be demonstrably faster with cold cache and dropped buffers than with a warm cache/buffers?
 
Can I add a key wish list item for SSIS?
I would like to see a screen where you can open and review the logging for all of the tasks at once. That way you can review a whole package and make sure logging is set up correctly for everything in the package without having to click through individual tasks.
 
^^^^^^^that would be great
@billinkc and you just had to ruin my comment
 
Even more ruinous
 
Actually, that's probably something you could implement as a plugin.
 
Help me understand that request. You want a one stop shop where you can see that the package itself logs OnError but a DF doesn't?
 
4:17 PM
@billinkc That sort of thing. Something that lets you review the logging on a package to make sure everything you want to log is being logged.
 
I'm trying to see if the Bids Helper Non-Default properties report already scratches that itch
 
yo dawg. i heard you liked logs so i put a log on your log so you can log while you log
 
Actually, at-a-glance views for a few other things - for example showing the container/task hierarchy and what variables and expressions live in each scope.
A decent lineage normaliser/reporting tool.
 
for all of its flaws and cruftiness --- ssis is still eminently more usable than informatica
 
Maybe a better templating capability for generating SQL.
Maybe a series of high profile MVP blog posts along the theme:
'Overengineered ETL frameworks considered harmful'.
*No, your wonderful SSIS package configuration/logging/data quality really isn't better than the one shipped by the vendor.*
 
4:24 PM
I got a ticket today which describes in detail what should be done to a certain dumb
it's a database dumb
 
5:07 PM
Is this a shopping lest question (as the 2 votes suggest)?
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Q: Extract mdf & ldf files from backup file?

HamidIs there a way to extract SQL Server files (.mdf & .ldf) from a backup file (.bak) to a physical location, without restore database? I need a restore query or script to restore files from bak file only, no attaching to server. Please don't speak about detaching query after restore.

I see that the answers are about specific products, but the question does not ask or say anything about how to do what they want.
 
I've thought of another one:
Make the OLEDB data source work with stored procedures that use temp tables.
4
 
I mean that an answer like "No, no script or query can do that. There are specific products that can do such conversions, bla bla..." might be more appropriate than having one answer for every one of them.
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells Done
 
@billinkc You could also tell your little bird that some of these requests come from a 6'2" tall psychopath who hasn't been brought up on GBH charges. Yet.
 
Come come, you're all her majesty's subjects....
 
5:14 PM
@billinkc Twitch twitch
 
I was clapping with malicious glee as I typed that
 
@billinkc Now, where did I put my meds?
 
Is it true that the Queen can go and kill anyone if she feels like it and she won't be charged?
 
@ypercube Not sure.
 
My next question would be which site is that appropriate to ask (Travel perhaps)
 
5:16 PM
Nothing highlights my day like family members with a virus on their winblows pc
 
@ypercube Don't know. Maybe one of the UK reddit boards?
@AaronBertrand Tell them you specialise in databases - and besides which, you're a mac user.
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells some of them can't differentiate between operating system, office suite, database... and some of them think Macs are just sexier hardware
 
Need to wear that for my whole trip home next week
2
 
@AaronBertrand Maybe you could install Linux on it.
 
5:32 PM
See Y'all. I'm off to have dinner in Tunbridge Wells.
 
should we be concerned?
8
 
 
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6:39 PM
I wish all are the users of the site asked their first question like this one: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/72169/…
An alternative to using a trigger (which, as you can see, can get messy) would be to use a computed column. — swasheck 1 min ago
@swasheck or a (materialized) view, since they want aggregation?
 
@ypercube an indexed view?
 
@JackDouglas Right. I keep using the wrong names.
 
@ypercube well ... GPA is an aggregation ... not sure i'd see the benefit. if it was an indexed view i think it'd require some refreshing at each change, right?
@ypercube i knew what he meant
 
@swasheck I meant: is it even possible to have an aggregation in a computed column?
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells that mannequin needs a beard!
 
6:48 PM
@ypercube i believe so. i'll give it a go
 
Indexed views for aggregation are only really useful if they reduce the number of rows, IMHO. If you're computing "aggregations" across columns, but still producing the same number of rows, they're not going to provide much benefit over a persisted computed column.
I should probably blog about that. Too many people think, "oh, my view's slow, I'll put an index on it" then complain that it doesn't help.
 
7:07 PM
@swasheck You're right. With a function, we can.
 
@ypercube yeah - do it "inline" but with a function
 
Whatever the implications on performance (I guess we'll read about that in @Aaron's blog), your idea sounds much more better than using triggers and MERGE.
 
JNK
7:31 PM
god I hate sql_variant data type
 
7:42 PM
@JNK yes, it is stupid, but I learned a fun trick about its use from Itzik while at Bits. Going to blog about that too.
Short version: I would never use it as a column data type or parameter type but it can resolve conversion issues when used in the ELSE of a CASE expression.
 
JNK
interesting
You were at Bits? I'm jealous it looked awesome.
 
I've been to 6 straight
 
@swasheck No. I'm back now. No need for concern.
 
8:36 PM
You guys are quiet today
 
@mmarie BOO!!!
 
!
that actually startled me because i didn't realize i had my sound up so loud
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is there an official term for the notification noise ? thwack?
 
@mmarie I haven't the foggiest idea.
 
it seems to be different per chat room
 
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Q: Use Star-Trekky noise for chat notifications instead of the "fart" on chat.stackexchange.com

Nick TI like the Star-Trek-esque beedeebeeboop as a chat notification on http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/ far more so than the fart/raspberry noise that http://chat.stackexchange.com/ uses. It is much more audible over my music and occasional gastric distress. Can StackExchange just rip off MSO (or...

@Lamak I'd never noticed that, but I suppose I don't hang out anywhere else much.
 
8:45 PM
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells I seem to remember one time when visiting the chat room for the mod elections
 
"FART"
 
Could you open the comms room and message me there. I'll see if it has a differentsound
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells do you have a link to that room?
 
The fart scares the crap out of me sometimes, and when I'm on a call it can be really annoying, because I can't control volume for the browser separately from GoToMeeting/Skype etc. One of the reasons you might see me disappear for hours at a time.
 
8:47 PM
@swasheck Can't say I've ever heard a fart that sounded much like that,
 
@AaronBertrand you can silence the room notifications
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells nah. but it's still funny. very ... metallic
 
@swasheck Yes. More of a twang.
 
seems you'd've torn your taint with flatulence of the sort
 
@swasheck Oh, dear. Can't unsee that particular image.
 
8:50 PM
 
@swasheck Beats goatse I suppose.
 
@Lamak yeah and I always remember that after it happens. I want the noise most of the time, and when I don't, I don't realize I've got a tab open somewhere
 
ah, yeah, the constant "The Heap" tab
 
@Lamak Try this one

 Tavern on the Meta

MY GOD, IT'S FULL OF STARS AND BACKLOG! General friendly chit-...
 
already there
 
8:54 PM
How did this "answer" get 7 up-votes
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A: "Prevent saving changes that require the table to be re-created" negative effects

Antoine MeltzheimTools --> Options --> Designers node --> Uncheck " Prevent saving changes that require table recreation ".

The OP obviously already knows that the option exists.
 
meep
 
Interesting. Still got my old avatar there.
 
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells yup, I saw that too
 
@Lamak i couldnt hear the robotic noises over my music. the fart is much more audible over the other things i've got going on
 
@swasheck yup, too delicate
 
9:04 PM
son do you know what i'm stoppin' ya for?
 
@swasheck Do you see physical reads and/or read-ahead reads reported by STATISTICS IO in both cold and warm cases?
@mmarie Sounds like BOINK to me :)
 
@PaulWhite unfortunately i've not found a way to capture that data given our test harness (submit a batch of jobs to a Cognos dispatcher). i have captured the queries, though so i'll check that out next.
 
@swasheck Ok. But no, on the face of it a query that's faster when the cache is cold seems a bit weird.
 
it's very strange. across multiple tests on the same configuration (with the only difference being 5 with DBCC FREEPROCCACHE; DBCC DROPCLEANBUFFERS; and 5 without) the times i run the DBCC commands (statements? expressions? i'm so confused) end up being faster.
i'm sure it's something that i'm doing incorrectly
@PaulWhite there's not a dmv that would track read-aheads, right? i can get physical reads from query_stats but there's no differentiation in read-aheads, right?
 
9:22 PM
@swasheck That's right.
@swasheck Command.
One thing that would run faster on a cold cache would be a query to count the number of buffers in the cache ;)
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i suppose that makes sense
 

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