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8:05 PM
@jolenealaska we should do a podcast
Just for the room
 
That actually would be fun :)
We need a topic.
I know us though, we would stick to the topic for nanoseconds.
 
We could just read news sites and discuss.
I'll read the BBC news site, you read whatever passes for that in Alaska.
 
That's a thought!
 
You need more bandwidth :)
 
We agree on just about everything, what do we disagree on so we can have a little bit of conflict? (lobster doesn't count)
We have to have a few minutes at least of mocking religion. We're good at that.
We're lucky to have found a room that is as tolerant of that behavior as this one. Of course, I think we've run off the users that would be bothered by that.
 
8:21 PM
Bwahaha
Well, we don't have to argue.
We just have to go with the flow
 
Civil disagreement is not necessarily argument, but I agree with the go with the flow philosophy. It makes me think of Jude stressing so much over his goodbye speech :)
 
You could do a TV show about nothing.
 
that's been done, but it was very successful :)
 
A TV show about nothing for the 21st century.
With Iphones.
 
I don't have an iPhone, but I have a microphone just right for podcasts. What it is not good for is writing with Dragon. Aarrgghh
 
8:25 PM
@FaheemMitha iPhone
 
We'd basically record Skype.
 
Tall, can (will, would you like to) do that screen capture thing with me to try to get my Bluetooth going? The microphone I'm using would be good for the podcast project, but it's driving me nuts with Dragon.
 
Jay
:'( You'll skype with Jojo but not with me :'(
 
@Jay As far as I'm concerned you can put your two cents in our little project :)
 
pops popcorn
 
Jay
8:30 PM
Yay!
@Jolenealaska just something random i just realized. You are the same exact age as my mother
Can you imagine having a son my age right now?
Teehee
When my dad was my age, I was already 3 years old
 
@jay you can be a guest caller
 
@Jay I plan this spring, if I can get my financial act together, to bring a foster child into my life. Oddly, I thought if you as I daydreamed of that yesterday.
@ElendilTheTall that was my thought exactly
 
Jay
@Jolenealaska Thats awesome!
Spread the love!
@Jolenealaska Wait... why did you think of me lol. Im slightly flattered but at the same time feel slightly offended since it almost implies that I'm really juvenile :'(
 
With my home and lifestyle, I think an older kid would be appropriate. The very nature of foster parenting is that the kids tend to have issues. I think I can handle just about anything, and there's nothing in this home to steal. :)
@Jay it wasn't your age or maturity that made me think of you (only that you're considerably younger than me)
 
@jolenealaska I can't this evening, but tomorrow, no problem.
 
Jay
8:38 PM
Okie then. haha
Oh yea... something I'm really upset about currently: my roommate has really gotten into guns lately
and I personally not a huge fan of it
 
@ElendilTheTall during the time we often talk for hours?
 
Jay
Its not such a big deal but several times now I've found random bullet casing lying around in the living room
and last week he left a freaking rifle in the living room
 
@Jay that's inappropriate.
 
Jay
I kinda threw a hissy fit
granted there was no ammo in the rifle.. but that doesnt make me feel any more comfortable about it
 
That's beside the point
There was no ammo in it that time
Tell him next time you find it unattended you're going to call SWAT and leave the house.
 
8:42 PM
@Jay I think I would too, and because of my army experience, I enjoy guns (only to shoot targets because I'm good at it). Part of being good with guns is to never make people nervous with them (unless you're actually going to shoot them)
 
Jay
I just feel he's a bit too irresponsible to be messing with guns
there is a shooting range 2 blocks away and he goes shooting every weekend (I dont know how he affords the ammo. shit aint cheap)
 
Guns have their own etiquette, and leaving bullet cases around is way outside of that. So is startling a roommate with the gun lying around. That makes me really worried. Like he's acting out.
@Jay no it isn't!
 
What kind of rifle is it?
 
Jay
@ElendilTheTall Ermmm no idea. i dont know much about guns. and I dont play FPS so i dont even know some stuff people know from shooter games
@Jolenealaska No hes not acting out. just forgetful
 
forgetting that you've left a gun lying out is like forgetting to feed the kid. There are things you just aren't allowed to forget.
 
8:47 PM
I have a question for Lindy.
> „In Angelsaksische landen worden vaak standaardmengsels gebruikt met maar drie of vier bacteriestammen”, zegt Smid. „Dat proef je: deze kazen hebben een beperkt bouquet.”
If you can understand this, do you agree?
 
Jay
ooo oo bouquet! I know that word
 
Yay!
 
Jay
haha
 
I'm sure there are more words you recognise...
Like "Angelsaksische".
Or "bacteriestammen".
 
Jay
ermmm...
 
8:49 PM
I recognize bacteria, standards, smell...
 
Jay
can i safely get rid of the last 6-10 letters of those words?
 
@Jolenealaska Good! But it is taste rather than smell.
@Jay Sure!
 
I assume Angelsaksische is Anglo-saxon
 
Ding!
You can probably also guess "zegt" from context.
 
Jay
No! He's talking about Angels stubborn face
 
8:50 PM
Hehe.
I'm sure you know better.
You can probably also guess "in" and "landen".
 
Jay
I'm playing to part of a child so JoJo has practice dealing with them
 
Of course, of course.
 
Jay
Land of Angels!!!!
 
Must be really hard for you.
 
Jay
:D
 
8:51 PM
Ding!
 
Anglo-Saxon types prefer something with less bacteria in some kind of food. Cheese?
 
Land = land, country.
@Jolenealaska Ding!
Very good.
 
English cheeses have a limited range of flavours?
 
That is the alleged result of what Jojo translated, yes.
 
Hmmm. Well, I haven't conducted exhaustive experiments
 
8:52 PM
Stam = stem, clan, race.
 
But I suppose in general most British cheese is cheddar like.
Though there are of course exceptions. We do have a few rinded, brie like cheeses too
 
The travel Channel special on Amsterdam spent a while at a cheese shop. I was so drooling.
 
The claim is actually that, if you take a piece of Anglo-Saxon cheese, its flavour will be simpleter, with a more "limited bouquet", compared to e.g. a French or Dutch cheese.
@ElendilTheTall At least she hedges with vaak, "often".
 
Well, my experience with Dutch cheese is limited. But France certainly has a much bigger variety.
 
@Jolenealaska Do you have cheese shops?
@ElendilTheTall But it's not about the variety.
It is an actual insult of English cheese, which is why I thought you might be...interested.
 
8:55 PM
@Cerberus So far that meshes with my experience, the worst cheese culture in the world is right here.
 
Haha.
Too bad.
Our food is also usually worse than in most other countries, by the way.
 
@Cerberus Yes, a few. They are for special occasions or rich folks. If you go in kind of knowing which are looking for, you can find just about anything.
 
Good.
Cheese shops are fairly common here.
Most larger villages will have one, I think.
And there will be several cheese sellers at the market.
By the way, the article also says cheese attracts mosquitos.
At least malaria mosquitoes.
Hmm mosquitoes is with an e, it seems.
 
oddly, one of the best places in town to get real cheese from all over the world is Sam's Club.
 
I presume that's not a club?
 
9:00 PM
@cerberus Meh. I don't care that much. I invite you to try some of our cheese and make up your own mind.
 
Sam's Club is a huge warehouse store. You have to pay like $50 a year to shop there, and a lot of the products only come in obnoxiously large sizes, but you can get some real bargains there too. If you don't mind giving money to the Walmart Corporation.
A great example is the yeast I bought about three years ago. I just opened the 2nd pound of a 2 pound package. I keep it in the freezer and it still has six months even on it's very conservative expiration date. It's as vigorous now as when I bought it. I paid five dollars for 2 pounds of yeast.
That's namebrand, instant dry yeast.
 
Lol. You and your yeast
 
it's a pretty good example of how much money you can save shopping at Sam's Club! The little three packs of the same brand of yeast (three loaves worth) are two dollars at the grocery store.
The owner of Yorkie that bit me is also my current IRL BFF.
 
@ElendilTheTall I'm not sure I've ever tasted any "old" English cheeses, only the mild cheddar.
@Jolenealaska Ah OK, we have those too.
 
She recently bought ( at Sam's Club) the super deluxe, all the attachments juicer/ extractor/blender from Ninja.
 
9:08 PM
I have a card for one, but none are within walking distance.
 
she's going to leave it with me while I babysit her dog
 
In fact, they're all in the suburbs, where I rarely venture.
 
I have a recently acquired food mill which I also need for this project.
I am determined to make a V-8 like juice with fresh vegetables.
The one thing I'm going to get canned is the tomatoes, because a #10 can of good diced tomatoes (~3kg) is about $3 and better than any tomatoes I can get fresh.
@Cerberus you also need storage space to really make good use of those stores.
I should call Sam's Club and have them set aside a couple of cases of those tomatoes. I have a storage closet I can stack them in.
Lately I've been drinking two liters a day of V8. it would be really cool to make it, and to shake it up a little bit.
 
Hi Cerberus.
 
@Jolenealaska True, but there is room in my cellar.
@FaheemMitha Hi!
 
9:19 PM
@Cerberus that would work for stuff like this!
 
I'm sure!
 
I would have to pay an extra $50 a month for storage in the storage room. Umm, no. I still haven't taken advantage of the under-bed space.
 
I don't really enjoy dragging a large volume of groceries all through town to my house.
I think I pay about €30 or so for the storage.
 
do you know the size of your apartment in square meters or whatever?
 
I also put my bike there every night, so it's really useful.
45ish m².
Storage 6 m² ish.
 
9:22 PM
ok Google conversion, brb
 
Which is plenty for one person.
OK.
 
Your boyfriend mostly lives there, right?
I figured as much concerning the relative size of my apartment and yours.
 
Oh, no, he lives in his own house.
Is yours larger or smaller?
We think of American houses as huge.
Or American anythings, really.
Buildings, hamburgers, deserts, armies.
 
My apartment is the smallest space I've ever lived in except the little cabin in Chickaloon. It's nice but it feels really small. It's 1.7 times the size of yours.
 
Haha.
See?
 
9:27 PM
I figured as much.
 
So that makes it...around 800 square feet?
 
I think you have to get almost to Manhattan for Americans to reckon living space similarly to Europeans.
@Cerberus yep
 
Probably!
And I think the average living space is quite a bit larger outside the city.
Even in cites like The Hague.
 
@Cerberus Central heating?
 
I have that, yes.
 
9:29 PM
OK
 
My house was renovated 20 years ago or so.
It is from 1680 or so.
Do you have any heating at all?
I don't imagine I would need it in Bombay!
 
Jay
my old apartment has a giant bathroom
 
LOL, mine feels old because it has a very definite 1980s vibe.
 
Jay
it was more than 120 sq feet
 
@Cerberus Who, me? No.
 
9:31 PM
So that's 12 m² ish, 3x4 m. That's large.
 
Some rooms have A/Cs.
 
Jay
i loved taking baths in it (the 1 time i did do it)
 
I think I have a picture of my dad's bathroom. Want to see it? It must be nice to be rich.
 
My bathroom is like 3x1.5, still quite large for Amsterdam.
Separate loo.
@Jolenealaska Sure!
@FaheemMitha I wish I had that! I really need it in summer.
 
a few pictures actually... here :)
 
9:32 PM
@Jay So you're not a tub person?
 
@Cerberus It would be really unpleasant to live here with A/C.
 
Jay
@Cerberus im not the sit still a while type
 
@FaheemMitha It gets over 30 degrees here as well in summer. It's just two weeks or so, but it sucks without airco!
 
9:33 PM
@Jolenealaska Looks nice.
 
@Cerberus Yes, I imagine it must be unpleasant. I've tried living in this city without A/C. Not pleasant.
 
@Jay Same. I think I've sat in a bath tub maybe twice in my adult life.
@FaheemMitha People say one gets used to heat after a while. Never happened to me.
 
my poor photography skills miss the huge skylight and marble double sinks.
 
Jay
@Jolenealaska i like the color :D
and i love how the closet in also in the bathroom
 
@Cerberus Once sort of adjusts, I think. But it's more pushing it to the back of one's mind, like one does with any discomfort.
 
9:36 PM
I love that whole house. The whole house is as nice as that, but you wouldn't know it from the street. From the street it just looks like a typical middle-class three-bedroom house.
The kitchen is to die for.
 
My parents have the same shade of green in their bathroom.
 
it's a nice soothing color
 
@FaheemMitha Hmm that is what I would expect.
 
One time I fell asleep in that tub and dad woke me up because he was concerned. MS and heat (like falling asleep in a warm tub) do not get along.
It was kind of funny how little either one of us cared about lack of clothing in the situation.
 
Oh I see.
I think, in general, once things get serious, people get over taboos immediately, for the time being.
 
9:40 PM
We've never been a family to parade around naked in front of each other, but when it happens, were quite relaxed about it. After all, I don't think we have any members of the family that haven't seen it before.
a lot of Americans would kind of freak in that situation. Americans can be really prudish about nudity.
 
@Cerberus Do you use LaTeX to type Greek?
 
I'm going to take off to get some work done. I'll see you guys later.
 
@Jolenealaska I've heard tales. But neither would we parade around our family members.
That is, our parents don't try very hard to cover themselves from us when they are coming from the shower or when dressing, but my brother and I are more prudish.
I think children are usually more prudish towards their parents than vice versa?
@FaheemMitha Nope, I hardly know what it is.
 
9:56 PM
@Cerberus Oh. How do you type Greek, then?
 
I use some web app or other.
But I don't often type it.
Because the accents are hard to predict, and they need to be there, so I'd have to look them up for most words.
 
10:11 PM
@Cerberus Ok.
What does "the accents are hard to predict" mean? What accents?
 
Greek has tonal accents, which are indicated by diacritics.
Ancient Greek had a pitch accent. One of the final three syllables of an Ancient Greek word carried an accent. Each syllable contains a vowel with one or two vocalic morae, and one mora in a word was accented; the accented mora was pronounced at a higher pitch than other morae. Two-mora syllables could have rising or falling pitch patterns or normal pitch; one-mora syllables could have high or normal pitch. Rules restricted where an accented mora could appear, but within those restrictions, accent was free: it could appear in different positions in a given word. Usually a word's accent was either...
 
@Cerberus I see. Sounds complex.
 
Look at all the little marks.
 
I had no idea.
I imagine TeX could cope. I bet classicists use it.
 
So you could write Greek without the marks, as it was done in the classical age, but that is not our convention. So I'd rather not write than write imperfectly.
That is possible, but I'd have to look up all the accents.
 
10:21 PM
Do the accents alter the sense, or it is just like bad spelling?
 
Usually the latter; sometimes the former.
 
@Cerberus Ok
@Cerberus What is that passage?
 
The beginning of the Odyssey.
 
@Cerberus Of arms and the man I sing?
Or is that the Illiad?
 
That is the Aeneid.
Tell me of the man, o Muse is the Odyssey.
The Iliad is Sing about the wrath, o goddess, of Achilleus.
 
10:31 PM
@Cerberus Oh. Sorry.
 
No need to apologize.
 
The Aeneid would be Virgil.
 
Yes.
 
10:49 PM
The gates of Hell are open night and day; smooth the descent and easy is the way.
And on that merry thought, I am for bed. @jolenealaska catch you on the flip side, and we'll see if we can help that Bluetooth kerjigger
 
Adieu!
 
Actually, you may have just caught me to say goodnight.
 
As Virgil would put it, I go to Death's brother, sleep
 
So, goodnight!
 
@jolenealaska night sugar!
 
10:51 PM
I just checked my mail, which I haven't done for a few days.
In an hour I can go get a turkey and fixings because I'm on the official list of poor people.
I haven't done that for years, but I think I will this time. I'm actually nearly out of food except for a few cans of green beans and some rice.
It's not terribly cold out, my car is running. What the hell.
So I'm about to stand in line for a free turkey.
I like turkey breast sandwiches, I still haven't come up with anyway I really like the dark meat of turkey.
before getting the turkey notification. I was contemplating my grocery situation. I think I can make some knockoff of Cuban beans and rice.
there's got to be some good way to use the dark meat in or with that. Hmm.
Anyway, I'll bring my phone with me so I'm disconnecting for now.
CYA!
 
@Jolenealaska Wow, very nice!
I'm jealous.
 
@Cerberus Do you want turkey too?
 
11:06 PM
Sure!
Don't you?
Only Erdogan will be bitter.
 
@Cerberus Dunno. Supposedly it's dry.
Plus I'm not really that keen on meat.
 
That is also my experience...but people say it isn't dry if you prepare it well.
I'm not a huge meat eater either.
But still.
 
Sometimes I have mildly carnivorous cravings.
I occasionally like the idea of steak, for example.
 
I mostly crave bacon...
 
Bacon is good too.
All nice and crunchy.
 
Jay
11:14 PM
i prefer chewy bacon to crunchy bacon
crunchy bacon to me is overcooked
 
Chewy? Ewwy!
Crunchy's where it's at.
Bacon is the meat I would miss most.
 
Jay
Oink
 
Aww little piggy.
 
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