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Stephie

10:01 PM

@Jefromi you are on a roll, right? Another question...

Jefromi

@Stephie People keep trying to argue about things in comments :(

@Catija that's the joke! ("it's not easy being blue")

Catija

@Jefromi :(

Stephie

@Jefromi The egg safety one? I see...

Jefromi

I used sous vide eggs to show how solid they are at various temperatures (cooking.stackexchange.com/a/66427/1672) and everyone's all on about that now.

Stephie

Love it when they pounce on some minor detail...

Jefromi

10:08 PM

It's good, though, we always need questions. And now I'm back up above a 1:10 question:answer ratio!

Stephie

Then I should really write my pizza stone / pâte á choux question.

Tomorrow.

Jefromi

@Stephie How can you tell from holding up to a light that it's about thickness, not opacity?

Stephie

Because then dark eggs would probably have lighter spots.

Jefromi

Hm not sure if I was clear... those little dots could be thinner areas, or they could be more transparent areas.

Either way more light gets through - so it'll look dark normally, light when light shines through.

Catija

Right, but my brown eggs usually have dark spots, not light spots.

Jefromi

10:18 PM

But... that's true either way.

Catija

Anyway, the spots don't really relate to the lighter spots on the egg.

Stephie

@Jefromi thinner as in "lower mineral content", not necessarily as in fewer mm.

Jefromi

Ah, okay.

Catija

Stephie

@Catija and of course they shouldn't be confused with the dark freckle-like specks on brown eggs that are higher pigmented areas.

Catija

10:21 PM

That's why having a photo from the OP would be helpful.

Stephie

And that's why I wrote a caveat in front... And asked for pictures first.

Jefromi

Well you can always explain both kinds of spots :)

Stephie

But I had a real hard time gettng those photos - I buy organic free range or get them from my neighbour. And on her hen's eggs I could probably stand, that thick are the shells. Found a few "photo models" at last.

Jefromi

There must be some sufficiently loosely copyrighted photos online!

The wikipedia article has one:

Egg (food)

Eggs are laid by female animals of many different species, including birds, reptiles, amphibians, mammals, and fish, and have been eaten by humans for thousands of years. Bird and reptile eggs consist of a protective eggshell, albumen (egg white), and vitellus (egg yolk), contained within various thin membranes. The most popular choice for egg consumption are chicken eggs. Other popular choices for egg consumption are duck, quail, roe, and caviar. Egg yolks and whole eggs store significant amounts of protein and choline, and are widely used in cookery. Due to their protein content, the United States...

The brown one has spots, I think the pigment kind?

Catija

You can use mine...

I can take a photo without light, too.

Stephie

10:25 PM

@Jefromi Yup.

Why din't we wait until OP reacts?

And she explicitly writes:

> these spots are not speckles.

Catija

Occasionally my brown eggs have thin hairline cracks on top... to the point that they're really thin.

Stephie

As if the top is "folded"?

Jefromi

@Stephie okay, never mind.

Catija

I don't know what causes it. I never have issues with the eggs but they're really thin on the narrow end.

The current batch doesn't have that issue, though, so I can't get a photo.

Jefromi

I do think it's fine to just answer a question with multiple possibilities sometimes, though. It's obviously great if you can pin the OP down on one very specific case, but it's pretty helpful to future readers if we just cover a few options.

Stephie

10:29 PM

@Catija No idea. Do you have own chickens?

Jefromi

e.g. if the lid popping question asked what it means if it doesn't pop, I think it's fine to tell them "either bad seal to begin with, or spoiled despite the seal", rather than trying to pin it down to just one of them.

Stephie

@Jefromi perhaps tomorrow. 11:30 pm local time. I tend to write crap at that hour.

Catija

@Stephie Nope. I buy from the store. Cage free...

Stephie

Ah.

I love it when our neighbours aren't home. Pet sitting means I get to keep all the eggs ^_^.

And their chicken are such a friendly and funny bunch!

Hey, @Jolenealaska! Success?

Jolenealaska

No. The mouse is not working at all. The light isn't even coming on. It looks just like my old (corded) mouse, which shines red. The new one isn't glowing at all.

Stephie

10:38 PM

:(((

Jolenealaska

The jury is still out on the keyboard. Without a mouse, I couldn't get to a place where I could test it. It did not respond to control/alt/delete

I'm going now to online tech support.

Jefromi

@Stephie Sure, more a general statement about our obsession with narrowing questions than about the egg one (where she already said no speckles).

Stephie

10:56 PM

Midnight here - good night, guys!

Jolenealaska

11:20 PM

I am very bummed.

Neither the keyboard nor mouse is working.

Jefromi

11:53 PM

Are they both just no lights?

Jolenealaska

No lights, no response. The driver installed and windows says it is working - but nothing.

Jefromi

...batteries?

Jolenealaska

There has been no sign of life in the keyboard, the mouse wiggled the cursor for a few seconds - then nothing. Fresh batteries are installed.

Jefromi

I guess they don't necessarily light up when working (mice don't have to) but... seems odd not to have a visual indicator of "I have power" at least.

huh.

Jolenealaska

The little window on the bottom of the mouse isn't glowing red like my corded mouse. The keyboard Caps Lock light doesn't come on.

Jefromi

11:57 PM

The lighting up red is optional (though certainly helpful for telling it's working).

My mouse has some other lights that indicate it's on but doesn't do the red thing.

Jolenealaska

It's the least expensive model, so I'm not surprised about the red indicator.

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