I...do not know what to do with this (a comment on an answer that I earlier described as mostly tangent):
@MonicaCellio This is where focussing only on isolated words limits the hermeneutic. The word used can mean any of those things, just as the word "boy" in English can mean a pre-teen or any male up to 25 depending upon the context. So we are forced to look at the context, and it is a Covenant context. If we refuse to do this, we are failing to deal with the Bible as literature, and specifically, Covenant literature. How old were they? Young enough to be considered a symbol of the destruction of the future of a people. — Mike Bull37 mins ago
I've tried really hard to work with him and give him the benefit of the doubt, but... Everything is hand-wavy "covenant context" with him, and the connection is never clear. (Like how everything is about some weird mapping to holidays, which is apparently related somehow.) I'm starting to think he's like the people who work references to their products into every answer they post on technical sites until the community tells them to stop.
@MonicaCellio I don't really think he's trying to advertise his books. I think there is an attempt to answer the question, even if you don't agree with his hermeneutic.
@Ray I don't think he's trying to advertise his books; I think he's taking every opportunity he can find to advertise his ideas, regardless of fit, and that's what I have a problem with. In the answer with this comment, I'm having real trouble seeing how anything after the first paragraph attempts to answer the question; it reads to me like just another soapbox for his still-cryptic method. If you can see an answer in there, can you help me see it?
@FrankLuke yup, and he's received multiple comments containing the edit link.
@FrankLuke, thanks for your answer there. I'd been dithering about writing one and whether that would make it look like I was "going after" a competing answer (which I'm not, as I think folks here know, but Mike might see it differently). So I'm glad to have yours there.