@Davïd His Isaiah 7:14 paper there (actually not there, but referenced there) was helpful perspective for an old question of mine. Stuff like that sometimes makes me wonder why we even try here. There’s too much.
^^ An especially attractive rendition I think. (From the aforementioned Is 7:14 paper which uses an otherwise very ordinary Greek font.)
@ThaddeusB I think you’ll need to ping him elsewhere (under the answer or in the C.SE chatroom) if you actually want to ping him. (I’m told people use @ without any intention of pinging, in which case never mind.)
@ThaddeusB BTW, I’m guessing you already saw it, but just in case...there was a Q&A on MY.SE about Isaiah 53, presumably alluding to related issues, but not much came of it.
@Susan John Baines! Wilfred Lambert! Gary Knoppers! H.G.M. Williamson! John Barton! William Horbury! George Brooke! Philip Alexander! Christopher Rowland! Top top quality. Decent supporting. May be let down here and there, but hey - that's what you get with essay collections.
+ [Gerry Leonidas]leonidas.org/greek-type-design/…) on Greek type design. He was the Greek and Cyrillic consultant for the Cleartype fonts (Cambria, Constantia, Corbel, Candara, etc.).
The slight problem with the existing answer -- as learned and fascinating as it is -- is that none of the sources cited and discussed provides evidence for a pre-Christian understanding of Isaiah 52:13-53:12 (often conveniently abbreviated to "Isaiah 53", the so-called "Fourth Servant Song"). Tha...
^^^^ My best shot - a bit hurried, inevitably too brief, but I think/hope it brings something to the table.
@Susan Man! Not one, but two mangled links. Obviously needed more coffee (+ was in a hurry) when I chucked those in. Here they are again: Greek type discussion, and Gerry Leonidas. That's better.
@PaulVargas Well spotted! @Dan And a funky new blog and twitter account. So, questions: (a) are you (Dan) self-hosting Ghost? and (b) where's the header pic from you twitter account from? (Numbers 16 is an interesting choice to display!)
@Susan Hadn't seen it. You are right though - not much there.
@Davïd It's a good answer, so +1 from me. If you eventually make it not "too brief", I will probably make it the accepted answer. ... I was aware of the DSS evidence, but I wasn't sure if it was strong enough to mention - do you have a recommendation for a good discussion of its relation to a Messianic interpretation of Isa 53? (I'll add a footnote for now.)
I should have worded my question better to fit the scope of my answer, hehe.
@Davïd @Susan Indeed, a lot of ink on a seemingly minor thing. ... For the record, I didn't intend to ping Lee here - I already talked to him about his answer on C.SE.
@ThaddeusB - It was cool to see you in Mi Yodeya's chat room. You should stop by more often. It's usually a pretty quiet room, but the people are great. Saturday is the slow day, for obvious reasons (i.e., Shabbat).
@ThaddeusB I won't be coming back to develop, not any time soon. (Too busy!)
@ThaddeusB Another thought: what about re-framing your question along the lines of: "What can we know about the development of interpretation of Isaiah 53 from earliest times?" Then your answer covers 1st C up, and mine nudges behind that.
(I'm not bothered about the "accept". :)
The resources already linked deal with DSS material. Albeit, in a tip-of-iceberg like fashion.
@WadCheber I'll try to stop by now and then... I don't necessarily understand all that is being said there (i.e. b/c it is about Jewish culture that I have minimal understanding of) ... I imagine no will weigh in on the Isaiah question because (in my understanding) the passage is is not of much importance to modern Judaism & what Christians think about it is of even less importance (except when a missionary tries to convert them, of course).
@ThaddeusB I think that's helpful - and I've tweaked my answer in light of the new scope. Looking good, I think! Makes the two answers complementary rather than "competitive".
@Davïd Excellent... Largely unrelated, but seems like a good time to mention it: I am always impressed by the level of knowledge you and several others bring to the discussion. I searched for a while for a site where I could discuss Christianity at a scholarly level and am very glad to have finally ended up at SE.
@Davïd I am self-hosting ghost (using A Small Orange as my hosting provider - their ability to host ghost / node.js is my trial run with them), and 2) I found the picture in a Google search, I was originally looking for a similar angled picture showing Ecclesiastes, but ended up settling for Numbers because the picture and dimensions fit better
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A recent (2015) work, The First Nativity (Part II): History and Theology of Our Incarnate Lord and Savior by Joseph David Rhodes contains a good discussion of Neri. In short, the hypothesis is that Neri was the biological father of Shealtiel while Jeconiah was his legal father...
The idea in brief
A recent (2015) work, The First Nativity (Part II): History and Theology of Our Incarnate Lord and Savior by Joseph David Rhodes contains a good discussion of Neri. In short, the hypothesis is that Neri was the biological father of Shealtiel while Jeconiah was his legal father...
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