The Comms Room

@RyJones Yeah, the headline is misleading. But one thing you should know about print journalism is that the person who writes the article is usually not the person who writes the headlines.

cole

this beer - unf.

Ry Jones

@MichaelHampton IDGAF. He printed a lower, golf clap, very good. As I said, that's a $35 component. He then stuck all the expensive bits to it to make an actual rifle.

Michael Hampton

@RyJones The price of the component is not the point. The gun controls, or the inefficacy thereof, that's the point.

Ry Jones

12:23 AM

@MichaelHampton really? talk to me about Elvis.

Michael Hampton

@RyJones Who?

Ry Jones

That point was made decades ago. Yes, the bar gets lower, and right now it's pretty low. You can make a lower cheaper (and better) out of cutting boards.

or even those screw-together builds, those are way more functional.

Michael Hampton

Yes, today they are.

Ry Jones

ar15.com/forums/t_3_4/…

Michael Hampton

I wouldn't 3D print a gun for use today unless it was a dire emergency.

Ry Jones

12:25 AM

guns.com/2013/12/06/…

etc

If I wanted to make an ar15 lower out of plastic, I'd cast it. Way easier than printing.

amazon.com/Expedient-Homemade-Firearms-The-Submachine/dp/… good book

cole

I need to get my CCW

Jacob

@RyJones The DC tech position made an offer

Ry Jones

@Jacob congratulations. Go for it.

Jacob

@RyJones not yet

Ry Jones

@Jacob true, accepting an offer at 8pm on a friday would be odd

Jacob

12:29 AM

@RyJones No. It's not in writing yet, and I had someone else email me and setup a phone screen. There's still hope for that job in Seattle too

Ry Jones

@Jacob it's great to be wanted

Jacob

@RyJones I had no idea lol

Sysadmin day has finished pretty well after a dull start

cole

@Jacob awesome dude

Ry Jones

heh, listening to Indian co-workers argue over where the bug is

programs are always "this fellow" or "the other fellow"

cole

whoa big sneeze

/yawn

I'm going to fall asleep before my food and friend get here

jscott

12:41 AM

Coffee can fix that.

cole

But...beer

It's so good

jscott

Stout/Porter + coffee = So good.

My personal favorite is the seasonal Saranac Caramel Porter with chilled coffee. About 50/50. Fan-freaking-tastic.

cole

oooo

Ry Jones

eastsidedistilling.com/our-spirits/…

you buy that. you drink that.

jscott

Wow, I'm not much on rum, but that sounds really good.

cole

12:44 AM

oooooooooooh

Yeah me either but dang

Ry Jones

It is really good. Be sure to shake the bottle to get the sediment into the drink.

cole

I had root beer on draft from allstonsfinest.com the other night SO GOOD

Ry Jones

well, there, I started a bunch of crap at 17:47 on Friday. Time to bail.

jscott

Write-Only Friday.

cole

lol

I missed beer so much

jscott

12:55 AM

Whatcha drinking? My current pour is a Sierra Nevada Bigfoot.

cole

So - my boss and coworker went to this place called Hopsters

it was a vendor sponsored event and they brewed their own beer. Drinking a Triple Oaked IPA

Coworker gave me the whole case

jscott

Whoa. That'a a score.

$150-$230 for a 7.5 gallon batch isn't too bad considering you don't need to buy any ingredients, equipment, bottles, etc. I wonder if they make you clean the equipment after your boil is done.

Journeyman Geek

@RyJones I've always wondered if indglish is English in a colonial time warp or a full blown mutant

Matt Bear

1:26 AM

sup gents

Ry Jones

@JourneymanGeek at this point there are probably more speakers of indglish than English

Michael Hampton

1:40 AM

@JourneymanGeek It's a mutant, I think. And I suspect it will continue to diverge from English.

Ry Jones

1:52 AM

@MichaelHampton you should join me over at slashnet/#gunblogger_conspiracy

lots of like-minded types there.

Journeyman Geek

yay, slashnet.

@RyJones: kinda sorta, some of us still speak fairly standard english, merely accented.

Ry Jones

@JourneymanGeek sure.

Ry Jones

2:35 AM

►

Michael Hampton

4:17 AM

Wow, I never quite imagined that my campground Wi-Fi service would actually help me answer a question.

Journeyman Geek

4:35 AM

o0

Michael Hampton

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A: Mirror/Cache Websites on a Mobile Server

I actually set up something very similar to this once a year for a week-long event that's held in the middle of nowhere, so I have a little experience to share. First, the TL;DR: You can do it, but it won't work nearly as well as you (or your higher-ups) might hope. It might not be worth botheri...

Journeyman Geek

oh, cool

Michael Hampton

I need to finish writing that article series, too.

Michael Hampton

4:51 AM

The real problem, though, with writing an answer on Saturday morning is that nobody will ever see it.

ewwhite

5:19 AM

@MichaelHampton that is true.

Michael Hampton

@ewwhite Oh, I'll probably stealth edit it on Monday morning

ewwhite

I use Trello to stage the questions I plan to ask.

strugee

hey, all! happy Sysadmin Appreciation Day!

Michael Hampton

5:34 AM

OK, this gliffy thing is pretty nice

Though, I suspect I am terrible at network design.

strugee

@MichaelHampton "PorcFest 2014" sounds like a porn convention

Michael Hampton

@strugee Well, there were live bondage shows...

2

Unfortunately I never managed to make it to one.

strugee

@MichaelHampton that took me a minute, but now

dying

Michael Hampton

And that was my vacation.

strugee

5:50 AM

sigh... time to go get my bottom-of-the-barrel SSL cert

from StartSSL.

Michael Hampton

@strugee And of course there was the stripper pole...

strugee

@MichaelHampton now that one, I don't get

Michael Hampton

@strugee Ahh, let me find a good picture...

strugee

@MichaelHampton unless that wasn't a pun and you meant an actual stripper pole

Magellan

@MichaelHampton the burlesque shows at norwescon are fun.

Michael Hampton

5:56 AM

@strugee Yes, an actual stripper pole.

Magellan

@MichaelHampton you know he's 15, right?

Michael Hampton

@Magellan OK, I'll choose a slightly different picture, then :)

flickr.com/photos/11088513@N05/14551460641/in/… I don't think there's anything TOO disturbing in there...

strugee

6:18 AM

@MichaelHampton ah. gotcha.

@Magellan :P

Michael Hampton

Now if you want a really disturbing image...

Falcon Momot

Java is a bad parody of C++ and you shouldn't use it and you shouldn't teach other people to use it, and with a straight face how could you?

Tweeted by FalconDarkstar on July 26, 2014 at 6:20 AM

Wesley

@Tanner Got it! You need to focus on killing those work samples.

Falcon Momot

@Tanner hey do you want to add another possible job to the mix, since you're apparently looking?

Wesley

@FalconMomot hiss

:P

Falcon Momot

6:24 AM

@Wesley screech!!!!!!

lol

Wesley

@FalconMomot Tanner is in your neck of the woods

Or... one of your necks

...wood necks?

Falcon Momot

@Wesley perfect!

seattleite?

Wesley

@FalconMomot Roughly, yeah

Falcon Momot

@Wesley I think our companies are basically opposites so really there's no competition :)

well maybe they aren't

since we also have infinite work from home

shrug

Wesley

@FalconMomot No Windows, lots of *nix... so there's that.

Falcon Momot

6:25 AM

I want a sysadmin!

stomps feet

@Wesley we're all like... whatever you want dude

Wesley

Okay, okay, the finance guy has a Windows box because there's not much he can't do with Excel.

Falcon Momot

lol

Wesley

Dude can whip up an unmanned interstellar rover with Excel.

Falcon Momot

Hitachi ID is like that also

(not with excel, with linux)

Wesley

@FalconMomot Yeah, exactly. When I've interviewed, I've told people "We don't care if you buy an old NeXT cube and put BeOS on it. As long as you're happy and can do stuff."

Falcon Momot

6:26 AM

and everyone chooses linux without fail :P

Wesley

@FalconMomot Here's it's Macs, but yeah. Whatever.

Falcon Momot

vomit

Wesley

We're not that trendy. =P

Falcon Momot

I'm not sure I could tolerate working for your company ;)

also I think I'd be forever setting people on fire for using java

Wesley

@FalconMomot Java really seems like a lot of unnecessary pain.

Falcon Momot

6:30 AM

yeah

the guy with that thing you tweeted is mostly right

Journeyman Geek

lol

Falcon Momot

nsainsbury.svbtle.com/java-developers

4

Wesley

The fact that a JVM can run on anything really makes it hard to ignore the platform though

Falcon Momot

meh

I don't see a lot of mileage come from that

I mean certainly if I write an android app in java I can't do much with that code besides that

strugee

@Wesley #python

Wesley

6:31 AM

So, so hard to get those java pids to scale

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: somehow I would assume be-stickered old model thinkpads would what you'd find hackers using.

Falcon Momot

@JourneymanGeek it's actually rather common...

also thinkpads are standard issue where I work

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: for good reason

Falcon Momot

yup

well

Michael Hampton

@JourneymanGeek I'll use whatever I can get my hands on.

Wesley

6:32 AM

@JourneymanGeek minnix on a micromax pc

Falcon Momot

there are also problems

Journeyman Geek

especially IBM era ones (they actually had better keyboards)

Falcon Momot

everyone be typing on cherry mx greens

Journeyman Geek

... greens?

Falcon Momot

sometimes on blues

Michael Hampton

6:33 AM

And what the hell is with laptops with chicklet keyboards?

Wesley

@FalconMomot Fuck those damn keyboards right in the ear. Freaking things making it so hard for me to think.

Falcon Momot

greens are basically stiffer blues

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelHampton: fracking apple ;p

strugee

@MichaelHampton oh my god DAMN

Journeyman Geek

@Wesley: eh. I use blues.

Falcon Momot

6:33 AM

@Wesley muahahahahahahahahahahahaHAHAHA!

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: yeah, I just thought they were uncommon ;p

strugee

those bug the crap out of me

Falcon Momot

@Wesley we will put you in jail and everyone else will be typing essays on greens and blues

Wesley

Get a room full of those damn keyboards and that's why I have tinnitus because I have to crank my headphones so loud it starts altering my vision.

Falcon Momot

@strugee you can serve time with him

Journeyman Geek

6:33 AM

eh. I may switch to something quieter in future

Falcon Momot

@Wesley have you not heard of the noise cancelling headphones?

most people have them at work :D

Wesley

@FalconMomot I've got some that are pretty good I guess. Shure 205s or something

No 215s

I can't afford the 525s like @ewwhite can

Falcon Momot

well then...

strugee

@FalconMomot oi! I didn't say I was going to fuck the keyboards, just that I disliked them!

Wesley

amazon.com/Shure-SE535-V-High-Definition-MicroDriver-Detachable/…

Falcon Momot

6:35 AM

@strugee oh, the jail has more to do with that thing with the chickens a few years ago.

Wesley

@FalconMomot He did what to a chicken?

Falcon Momot

@strugee ^

strugee

@FalconMomot but why am I being looped into his jail time?!

Falcon Momot

shrug

that poor bird...

strugee

really though

Falcon Momot

6:37 AM

Wesley

@FalconMomot Strugee's dad is Lazarwolf!

Falcon Momot

oh no, that will be an extra couple decades for sure...

Iain

G'dday

Falcon Momot

'lo

Wesley

@strugee You're chicken corruptions are now public knowledge. For shame.

@Iain NERF! NERF! NERF!

Falcon Momot

6:38 AM

they are doing this by the way, and it's quite normal:

Kapparot

Kapparot (Hebrew: כפרות‎, Ashkenazi pronunciation, Kapporois, Kappores) is a Jewish ritual practiced by some Jews on the eve of Yom Kippur. The person swings a live chicken or a bundle of coins over one's head three times, symbolically transferring one's sins to the chicken or coins. The chicken is then slaughtered and donated to the poor for consumption at the pre-fast meal. == Etymology == Kapparah [כפרה], the singular of kapparot, means "atonement" and comes from the Hebrew root k-p-r which means "to atone". == Practice == In the Jewish religious practice of Kapparot, a cockerel literally...

strugee

@Wesley O_O

Iain

How are we all ?

strugee

@Iain pretty good, and yourself?

Wesley

@Iain I'm gainfully employed so that still pretty much trumps everything else going on.

strugee

I really should go back to setting up my mail server now

Iain

6:41 AM

fab :) cool enough for a bike yet ?

Wesley

45C here, dust storms raging across the desert floor, and I still have no bike, but I'm working so that's nice. =P

@Iain Cross-posted! =D

I've got to get over to REI to have them build my surly

Then I can get back to contributing to the strava group

I bet I lost all my leg gains

Iain

It's 27C here late in the afternoon and that's too much for me really

Journeyman Geek

@FalconMomot: nuu

Wesley

I have almost no stamina.

Journeyman Geek

noise cancelling is useless there.

You want lots of passive noise attenuation

Wesley

6:42 AM

@Iain Well then you are in a perfect locality. I bet it starts getting cooler in late August?

Iain

@Wesley Legs will come back quickly

Wesley

@JourneymanGeek Jab a pencil in your ears and stir it around. You'll be fine.

strugee

hey, when did pink-and-fluffy appear?

Falcon Momot

@Wesley see, you could come to the motherland of REI where the flagship is, and work for leviathan!

Journeyman Geek

@Wesley: dude. I spent three years hunting for my headphones

Iain

6:43 AM

@Wesley Well before then - this is unusually warm

Wesley

@FalconMomot I don't want to job hop. =(

Falcon Momot

@strugee it may have been my fault

Iain

@FalconMomot still no SA ?

Falcon Momot

@Iain nothing yet

I'm trying to cover my bets atm :)

and I mean, the more people apply, the better we get

@strugee ^ pink-and-fluffy

strugee

@FalconMomot ah. well then

Wesley

6:54 AM

Night, bunny wabbits.

Here's that Fifty Shades of Gr[e|a]y trailer you've all been dying for:

►

/me flees

strugee

@Wesley you suck

Journeyman Geek

s/for/of

also, I think grey is spelled americanly as gray. This is ENTIRELY your fault, you misbegotten delinquents.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

7:59 AM

Happy sysadmin day hangover day!

Jenny D

8:12 AM

morning

MichelZ

8:29 AM

morning!

cole

12:55 PM

Morning

here we go - upping the FFL and DFL!

cole

1:22 PM

DONE! We are successfully NT4 free and on a DFL of 2008.

Journeyman Geek

@cole: clearly you need to find a NT4 disk, and put it on a burning model boat.

pauska

1:51 PM

@cole WTF FFL BBQ DFL?

cole

Pretty lame that I'm this excited about it

MichelZ

@pauska forest functional level / domain functional level

@cole and now there's no going back :D

pauska

ah.

cole

@MichelZ indeed.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

ohai @cole

welcome in the 21st century

we have cookies and flying cars

cole

2:05 PM

Thanks

faker

so... How many XP boxes do you guys have?

cole

1700

But, I think that number is shrinking. Just found out we still have $3 Million left in the budget from our laptop roll out this year (1500 field users went from XP to 7)

So that's next.

faker

oh well then, at least you are not running out of work

MichelZ

@cole you could pay those 3 mill to get support for XP from microsoft

this way you don't need to upgrade for another year or two

:D

cole

Fuck that.

Journeyman Geek

2:15 PM

lol

Hennes

Or use the 3 mill to buy support for Dead Rat ;-)

cole

I really am just so happy

Ry Jones

I was just dreaming about rolling freebsd out to a bunch of k-12 schools

so insane

AdamC

2:30 PM

@RyJones Clearly.

It would have to be Edufreebsd

like edubuntu

"let's put a typing app in ubuntu then say it's targeted to kids!"

ewwhite

I'm not sure this is answerable.

0

Q: Which hypervisor to play nice with docker.io

I have been running several different virtualisation servers, (ESXi, XenServer, Proxmox/KVM) in the past. I am now in a position where I need to set up a new virtualisation environment that is supposed to be long running. I figured it might be a good idea to be prepared for Docker as it comes up ...

cole

My PC is being a dick.

I just rebuilt it like 2 months ago and weird shit keeps breaking.

pauska

rebuilt it? as removing all the parts and putting it back together?

cole

No, just formatted it and reinstalled Windows.

Blergh I need new monitor and a new graphics card too.

pauska

I can't decide really.. new GPU or Xbox One

all I play lately is fifa..

cole

2:42 PM

That's the issue I'm having.

I really want Destiny for Xbox One

not 360

but also there's a bunch of PC games coming out I really want - especially the new Civilization game

Hennes

2:59 PM

I used to love civ 1.

and 3 was nice

I tried 4 and 5, but meh. Either to easy or (at the harder levels) the computer cheats.

Journeyman Geek

3:11 PM

define wierd shit?

faker

"Thanks for the help, I will tip everyone in BTC for help." wtf...

Journeyman Geek

lol

Oh, thankfully that's a problem I won't have anytime soon ;p

ewwhite

Question was updated, this answer is not accurate anymore. — Giedrius Rekasius 49 secs ago

this guy is trying too hard

anyway, are you people working on a Saturday, or just hanging out?

cole

I was working.

ewwhite

:(

cole

3:16 PM

Now I'm playing Wildstar and realizing I really need a new graphics card.

XD

@cole: the joys of a shitty monitor ;p

cole

@JourneymanGeek really need new monitors, too

These both are like 5-6 years old.

Journeyman Geek

@cole: oh, mine's 720p

cole

3:18 PM

Can't decide do I replace both 22" w/ 22"s, 24"s or a 27" and a 22 or 24"

Journeyman Geek

its newish but basically I set a budget (140 dollars) and minmaxed the best I could get.

I think its a 20 incher, DVI and VGA only

But I can run quite a few games on ultra settings without any issues on a gforce 660

cole

I'm thinking replacing with two 24"s

27" is too big I think

Yesterday I told my sister it was SysAdmin Appreciation Day - she responded with "oh awesome! I'll get you a wrist brace for your impending carpal tunnel!"

My sister is kind of a dick.

haha

Journeyman Geek

lol. Depends on your desk

cole

It's a small IKEA Galant desk

Journeyman Geek

then yeah

I might be able to pull that off on my frankendesk

cole

3:32 PM

This is how it looks currently

Journeyman Geek

thats quite nice

cole

Not bad, just need new monitors

Journeyman Geek

lemme see if I can find a recent, showelled off picture of mine ;p

cole

Reason to just buy two new 22"s would be because I already have this mount

Journeyman Geek

hm, no

lol. I was pondering building one out of copper pipe and MDF

cole

3:36 PM

It was only $30, but still

Journeyman Geek

waste not want not

(also, the usual problem with obsolete gear. WHAT DO I DO WITH IT?)

Michael Hampton

@JourneymanGeek I try to sell older stuff before nobody wants it anymore.

Journeyman Geek

I'd probably have more space if I put my desktop on the floor

@MichaelHampton: We tend to run things to the ground. ;p

Michael Hampton

@JourneymanGeek Yes, I gathered that. Obviously this is a problem :)

Journeyman Geek

;p

(this is true of everything. Our dryer is a marvel of mcgyverism)

Michael Hampton

3:41 PM

Oh, I understand the wish to keep things in good repair and use them as long as possible. This just generally isn't a good strategy with computer hardware since its useful life is so short. A dryer can be useful for decades. But even a 10 year old computer isn't very useful.

Journeyman Geek

lol

our dryer is held closed by a hard drive magnet and a bit of steel from a old case, and the fan is kept running by a large o ring acting as a fan belot.

Oh, that is true

especially with gaming boxen

(but... the fax machine that's taking up most of my spares box?)

Michael Hampton

I haven't sent or received a fax in several years. But at least the "fax machine" is part of my multifunction copier/printer/scanner thing, all the rest of which are still useful.

Journeyman Geek

lol

no, I mean a carbon paper fax

we have a MFD. Its an awesome canon I love to bits

(assuming you find the correct driver for remote printing, and it didn't decide to disconnect from wifi and....)

we however occationally keep stuff like that 'in case'

Michael Hampton

@JourneymanGeek Don't you guys have flea markets? Or craigslist? Or...something?

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelHampton: meh, I'd just throw it out

my dad seems to think it may be usful

I've given away stuff in the past

Michael Hampton

3:47 PM

@JourneymanGeek You could drop it on the head of a burglar? Otherwise I can't think of much...

Journeyman Geek

(and we sometimes hand down/up systems)

cole

I'm ready for a dang nap.

Journeyman Geek

pretty much

My old c2d (upgraded to windows 7) is theoratically my mom's

also, thermal fax machine. You can beat AND Strangle a burgler with it.

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker Testing python-hpilo on ILO1 devices!!

 hpilo_cli 192.1.2.4 update_rib_firmware version=latest -l Administrator -p abcde123
Downloading ilo firmware version 1.96 1478872/1478872 bytes (100%)Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/hpilo_cli", line 312, in ?
    main()
  File "/usr/bin/hpilo_cli", line 199, in main
    results = [getattr(ilo, method)(**params)]
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/hpilo.py", line 1550, in update_rib_firmware
    return self._request(root, progress)[1]
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/hpilo.py", line 190, in _request

Journeyman Geek

and I probably should go to sleep. I'm being vaguely incoherent, and need to waste my sunday afternoon at the army. Again.

Michael Hampton

3:50 PM

@ewwhite I do believe that ILO flipped you the bird.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ewwhite ooh. Try setting BLOCK_SIZE to 2048

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker it's a local ILO...

Dennis Kaarsemaker

I haven't tested that change on iLO1 as I no longer have them. Also, I'm not sure update_rib_firmware is supposed to work via XML on ilo1. Try from the machine self using -Plocal

ewwhite

and now I see hponcfg says a firmware flash is in progress... and has been so for a month

Dennis Kaarsemaker

hehe

ewwhite

3:52 PM

 hponcfg -w
HP Lights-Out Online Configuration utility
Version 4.3.0 Date 12/10/2013 (c) Hewlett-Packard Company, 2014
Firmware Revision = 1.94 Device type = iLO Driver name = hpilo
Firmware flash is in progress.Please wait for a while.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

that's definitely not caused by the attempt just now, as that broke sending the first 64k of the firmware

and flash doesn't get initiated until it's all been sent

ewwhite

sooooo old

Dennis Kaarsemaker

that background imae still gives me nightmares

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