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12:00 AM
@kce it took much pain to get here. And getting fired a lot.
 
Yep @'ing in SF chat pings the user
 
Like HipChat
/me ducks.
Heheh.
 
kce
@ewwhite I'm not saying you don't deserve every bit of it.
 
and delaying things like starting a family... investing... marital unhappiness..
@MDMarra and they back down
 
kce
@ewwhite I'm just impressed that's all. You're way up there 95% of sysadmin badassery. I'm down in the trenches somewhere below the 40th percentile.
 
12:02 AM
everyone is pissed at the $$ amount
even though it was spelled out in the project change request
 
@kce I think it's about finding niches... examples: healthcare, produce, legal, manufacturing, finance, government
@MDMarra and the decision?
@kce each of those fields have nuances in their IT needs... and will pay an obscene amount for people who can cater to them.
I know people who do PC work for law firms here and make a killing... same work as any other field, with a few quirks.
 
Ok, there are enough (removed)'s in here now. Enough bitching from me :)
@DennisKaarsemaker you guys dont do flights, right?
 
@ewwhite like boutique work
 
@MDMarra only off the building when we're drunk :)
 
@MDMarra if you guys make it all work, will that be a big win?
 
12:05 AM
PCLN does flights though
 
@ewwhite They are small. 200 seats total
 
@kce Are you looking?
 
Barely worth the frustration
@DennisKaarsemaker I booked a trip to St. Lucia through Travelocity and it's been an absolute nightmare
 
@MDMarra ooooh, vacation?
 
Ya, in Oct. if our flights ever work
 
12:06 AM
Should a went with William Shatner?
 
Right now they "rescheduled" us so we leave Philly and arrive in Miami at 9:30am and our flight to St. Lucia leaves at 9:00am. And no, that isnt a typo
 
@BigHomie neh, Penny...Penny...Penny :)
 
@MDMarra I'll fly you out if you take care of some more Microsoft stuff.
 
@MDMarra cool, time travel!
 
12:08 AM
@BigHomie Haha, @AdamC and I were just talking about /r/sysadmin on twitter
@ewwhite Fly me to where?
 
lol
 
@MDMarra wherever American Airlines goes.
 
American is the problem, pal
 
Then @MDMarra was like "Come to Stack Exchange chat" and I'm all like "yolo there goes my evening"
 
All of the major airlines only have one flight into and out of St Lucia a day
@AdamC It's all downhill from here
 
12:09 AM
@MDMarra and you say that AFTER I've been on Freenode lol
 
@AdamC it's 2am here. Evening's long gone and the alarm goes off at 7
 
@MDMarra typical
 
I'm at home right now anyhow
Wife said not to run the Home Depot errand "okay great" ::spends an hour more at work::
 
@MDMarra what's the issue?
 
Heh, welcome @AdamC , things will never be the same now that your in The Comms.
 
12:11 AM
@AdamC So introductions for the new guy. @DennisKaarsemaker delegates real work to others for booking.com, @ewwhite works for 4 months at a time at various high-profile companies, tells them they all suck and goes back to indie consulting, @jscott who just dropped in has the answer to every AD problem that I've never seen and @BigHomie used to be "@MDMoore" but then I battled him to the death
No one died though
 
sometimes people stay overnight in Miami to deal with the Caribbean flights.
 
@ewwhite Thats what we are doing now, actually
 
Haha thanks @MDMarra, appreciate the introductions.
 
Our current situation is arrive at Miami lateish (midnight I think) fly to St Lucia on that 9am
 
but hey, I offered my miles... how much is your flight?
 
12:12 AM
I wonder what Google says for "AdamC"
 
@MDMarra hey, I do real work too!
 
@ewwhite It's paid for. Wedding gift from wife's parents that we've been keeping in our pocket
 
I upgraded almost 8000 ilos the other day
 
@MDMarra Thanks for that twit link earlier. Although we expunged all our 2003 DCs, it's certainly good to know about the issue... I've keep hearing from people who still have 2003 around.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Haha, I read that as "I almost upgraded 8000 ILOs"
 
12:13 AM
@MDMarra takes miles back...
@MDMarra wanna fly first class?
 
@jscott Crazy ommission by the DS product group.
@ewwhite Always
 
@MDMarra "Hotfix 'real soon', we promise".
 
sup freaks
 
sup
 
@dennis
 
12:15 AM
sdown
 
err the keys are right next to each other
 
Chilling at home playing minecraft...
 
@DennisKaarsemaker that's a lot of iLOs
 
@AdamC no kidding :)
 
@MDMarra let me know closer to flight... I have a million miles sitting... and too many earned upgrades that I can't use anymore
 
12:15 AM
@AdamC Protip: The up arrow is "quickedit" for the last comment
 
there's about 60 left to do but they need to be powercycled
 
::mindblown gif::
 
stupid bug that crashes them when you try to test them for heartbleed vulnerabilities
 
@ewwhite Really? I'm sort of worried about owing you a favor, as I don't know where to hide any bodies, but I will certainly let you know
 
So yeah thanks @MDMarra for the intros, for anyone interested I'm a Mac and Wi-Fi person, run a local meetup IT group in Rhode Island, which is neither a road nor an island.
 
12:16 AM
@MDMarra Plenty of woods in Maine to hide bodies...not that I'd know.
 
@MDMarra Mmmhmm
 
@AdamC also, I try to get people to come to work for me in Amsterdam. Our mac guy is overworked as he's supporting almost 1000 macbooks on his own. Come work for me :-)
 
@AdamC @cole keep waffling back and forth about moving to RI. You should share your RI facts with him, it may sway him that it's so deceptively named.
 
A fun historical fact, @MDMarra once relied on me to supply a video adapter to him, and I slept in by accident before his talk at LOPSA-East 2014.
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@MDMarra we have Del's lemonade, and a growing tech community.
 
^ This is true. Luckily, @yesthattom is much more prepared than you are
 
12:18 AM
Freaking AV hardware guys... Can't trust 'em.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker That would be lovely, are your keyboard layouts different? Kidding. Sort of.
But me sleeping in had nothing to do with the hotel bar!
 
nope. .nl uses US keyboard layout :)
 
@jscott I woke up at 7am and saw tweets from him from like 3 hours ago and knew there was no way I was getting that adapter
 
@MDMarra By the way, Jade Mountain
 
@MDMarra I was prepared! Video cables, adapters, all labeled with my name. I just was not able to get it TO you.
 
12:19 AM
haha yep
 
@MDMarra okay yeaaaaah, you win on that point.
LOL
Brother even traveled with a cat6
 
Yep, BigHomie, please say the Big
 
@BigHomie BiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigHomie
 
So wouldn't @cole commute be worse if he moved to RI? Not that I'm arguing.
 
@ewwhite you ever took the wife to Sybaris?? Downright awesome I must say, my first experience with Illinois
 
12:21 AM
@AdamC not sure. Most likely
 
@DennisKaarsemaker That'll do ; p
 
@BigHomie You spelled "Sbarro" wrong
 
@BigHomie That's more of a romantic... romp thing :)
I knew the founder... father of a girl I dated.
 
@MDMarra @BigHomie Have either of you deployed Active Directory-Based Activation yet?
 
@ewwhite is the most well connected human on the planet, @AdamC. If you want to know the people that power healthcare.gov or brazzers.com, he's your guy
 
12:22 AM
I'm sorry to hear he knows people who power healthcare.gov
 
Or more to the point, are either of you deploying 8.1[u1] for new clients?
 
@jscott Nope, we've done 8.1 "Modern Desktop" projects for customers, but they're not all 100% 8/8.1, so we can't/don't
 
@AdamC knows... heh.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker if your friend ever wants to talk MDM he should hit me up.
 
Same problem here. 4.5K w7, 4 w8.1u1. lol.
 
12:23 AM
@jscott I just got a Surface Pro 3 last week
 
@jscott no XP?
 
dude...so good
 
@AdamC Oh hell no!
 
@AdamC mdm is the next step once casper imaging stops sucking
 
@jscott no, I'm just a lowly desktop administration w/ a knack for powershell and sccm :-(
 
12:24 AM
@MDMarra Dude, you are hardcore MS guy. I've never even seen one in real life.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I have casper in my environment too
 
@jscott They suck as tablets. If you want one as a tablet, you will be disappointed.
 
@jscott but come on it would be so appropriate if you did.
 
@BigHomie But, but client activation is desktop administration... :)
 
If you want an ultrabook replacement that can SOMETIMES be a tablet...it's such a good piece of hardware
 
12:25 AM
Microsoft needs to sell Pros as laptop replacements and more Cloud.
 
@jscott Will be soon unfortunately, I say that because this environment has every OS from XP SP3 to 8.1
 
@DennisKaarsemaker second time I've heard a CI comment today, makes me want to go looking at what could be wrong in my arena
 
@MDMarra That's a tough niche to fill, I can't say I've a need for something in that space.... yet.
 
All of the MS compete slides/ads for the Pro 3 compare it to a Macbook air
 
@jscott Yeah but I don't touch it, just kms server that the server dude handles
 
12:26 AM
@jscott Now, I leave my notebook docked in my home office and bring my Pro 3 to customer sites exclusively
 
Show off.
 
It really hammers home my Microsoft cred with customers :D
 
Do you connect straight to SCVMM from your decks too?
 
Then I pull out my iPhone..
 
ha!
 
12:27 AM
I finally got rid of my WP7.8 a few months ago.
 
@jscott Do you want to apply for a job opening that I have? :)
 
Well, that. Not much I can blame anyone for not using WinPho.
 
The one phone my old boss had problems reading mail from Exchange with.
 
AD/Identity engineer
@AdamC Wait, a Windows Phone had a problem connecting to Exchange? Yikes
 
@MDMarra I know right??
 
12:28 AM
@MDMarra Would if I could. Too many loose ends here. I'm totally not in a good position to think about moving right now.
 
When I got my iPhone I was like "there's so much room for apps I can use" switching, our directory, our help desk, our department chat app.
switching=our network dashboard
 
@jscott I figured as much. One day, I'll trick either you or @RyanRies into moving to Philly
 
Geez even my iPhone does Exchange Sync pretty solid.
 
@jscott the phone was cool for a few hours
The camera sucks, but MEGAPIXELS!
 
booking flights to Seattle and Portland...
 
12:30 AM
Ryan would be The Man to get. He'd mop the floors with me.
 
We'll never know, because neither of you will interview for my numerous job openings!
 
me dealing with Office licensing the other day securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/92739215164/…
 
@MDMarra You Introduced us, But What About @AdamC ??
 
Sorry?
 
@AdamC Licensing...blegh.
 
12:32 AM
Or did I miss that?? I am on Chatsey. ..
 
@BigHomie He's a fine chap that I met at LOPSA-East 2014
 
@NathanC in all honestly it was SO freaking my fault it wasn't even funny, but I could not figure out the issue myself. I had installed Office with the wrong ISO for what key I had. And key as in, one of the numerous keys I have in ma spreadsheet.
 
There we go
 
He's a custodian of hard-to-acquire video adapters
 
I keep hoping my wife's project takes off, so I can just get a part time at a kayak rental shack or something and play with my kid all day.
 
12:33 AM
@jscott that is the dream
 
kayaks and bikes.. sounds like a cute idea. Jim Halpert had it too, now I wonder if theres a /r/rentalshop where everyone whines.
 
@AdamC Why you no VLK?
Then again, I don't either because $$
 
@NathanC we have our fingers in our ears going "la la la la no we don't need office"
We have a dozen or so people out of 150 who need Office.
 
ah...
O365!
 
oh god no even more of a PITA to deal with.
 
12:34 AM
You know it. I'm somewhat tall, I could totally be useful in a kayak shack. "Hey, you! Go get that kayak off the top shelf!" "Sure thing boss." (hardest day in the office yet)
 
Good things come to those who hope that their wives are wildly successful and go work for a kayak shop. That's what I always say, anyway
 
Then you're boss doesn't want to "upgrade" to new kayaks at the end of the year and you're posting online for repair help and everyone's like "dude upgrade you run a rental shop!" and you're all like "but we have a shoestring budget! and there's a rental shop POS called Spicerentals
@NathanC also we're a google apps shop I mean come on isn't that 1/3 the product? ;-)
(pos = point of sale)
 
@AdamC Google Apps's "office" suite is so terrible though, lol
 
@NathanC name of the game in agile is Continuous Improvement. :)
 
@AdamC I don't even know if these guys use a POS or if they'll just trade hippie granola for boat time.
 
12:38 AM
Some new features are coming out, asking some people to try them out, soon you'll be able to EDIT Office files in Google Drive, not convert them, then save them and send them back to whoever.
@jscott Square on an iPad
 
@MDMarra You're married to a librarian, which means that you probably get more sex at home than any of us have had, ever (because we all know librarians have massive sex drives). So you can't have it all my friend.
 
@AdamC Hey that's what the wife uses. Seems neat.
 
@MarkHenderson ;)
@jscott A lot of the food trucks in Philly use it too
 
new business is the bane of POS that doesn't suck.
 
So I can buy my empanada from the back of a truck and put it on my amex
 
12:42 AM
They are the ones who buy the good systems.
 
And then Mint chimes in.. Uh, Mark, so $250 on Tex-mex this month? Really?
 
:(
I had fajitas for lunch and dinner in the same day at the same restaurant last week
 
haha, I know that life.
 
I went with people from work for lunch and then my wife wanted it for dinner
But I mean, it's ok because I got chicken fajitas for lunch and steak fajitas for dinner, right?
 
firstworldproblem: there wasn't enough catered food at lunch today so I had to go out and buy pizza myself for $5
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12:44 AM
Chicken and steak are like polar opposites on the meat spectrum. Totally ok.
 
I was told at work to "hire another you" so if anyone knows a handsome, well-mannered, brilliant engineer with a focus on AD and identity management, hit me up
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On that note, I'm outta here. Later, folks
 
I have no idea what this means theverge.com/2014/7/23/5929461/…
 
oh and also: prepare to be DCd
We will be starting the #stackexchange chat maintenance in about 15 minutes, downtime should be brief. http://stackstatus.net/post/92572393494/chat-maintenance-july-24-2014-at-9-pm-est-1-am-utc
 
@AdamC Chomebook to ship with Sprint wwlan? I don't know we're a Google Apps EDU shop and we've got tons of Chomebooks.
 
No chat? Unacceptable... They need to build a system that has absolutely zero downtime. :p
 
12:55 AM
anyone have a cluestick for me on this pfsense-related issue? lists.pfsense.org/pipermail/list/2014-July/006831.html
 
Maintenance on my first night on chat thanks @MDMarra
@jscott I dunno, Sprint as a reseller? "One point of contact" just sounds not all that great of a feature.
@jscott i don't think they are smart enough for that option, wwlan.
I had a FlashPanel demo today, was very nice.
 
I know I'm spoiled as an Google Apps Education customer, but damn their Enterprise Support is thorough and helpful. Would be a shame to hand that off to Sprint to bungle.
 
Yeah I don't think Sprint is going to be doing GA support either.. and I don't see what I can outsource to Sprint that I'm doing right now.
 
FlashPanel is sweet, we had the Enterprise stuff for a while. Very helpful for Gapps management where you'd have to roll your own tooling.
 
@MDMarra You're one step closer to going off on your own
 
1:02 AM
I had an interesting conversation where they explained their angle, basically Google never wanted to make the admin panel a tool for a 50+ or 200+ environment, thats why FlashPanel thrives.
 
If you're doing Gapps support, check out GAM, it can be a real time saver. Once you're looking at diving into scripting with the Google APIs, you may find the docs... daunting.
 
Oh yeah I've seen GAM too, we use GA for our company not as a reseller, so FP might fit the bill for us.
oh @jscott what do you use for help desk, Freshservice is relatively new, great for improving your service desk and great if you use GA
 
@AdamC ZenDesk.
 
Oh def check it out, I recently launched a help desk for the company I am new at, wanted something web based, all of them are built for helping public customers not your own employees, not really IT oriented.
(We chose Desk.com, then I found Freshservice, I want to push them to it.)
 
@EEAA Not really sure. If you completely disable the firewall what happens?
 
1:18 AM
@Zoredache I just got it sorted, and posted the solution to the mailing list....
 
well that was quick TWSS
 
1:48 AM
how many pinned tabs are too much
 
2:38 AM
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Q: installing phalconphp on VPS

VahanFirst of all I'm new to unix and know few things and I apologize for any stupid thing you will see in this post. I need experts opinion for this case. I have a VPS hosting with CPanel and I need to install phalconphp. My VPS has PHP 5.3. I followed phalconphp instructions and did "yum install ph...

 
Speeded up my Exchange email search from 1100 seconds to ~17 seconds!
Parallel.ForEach is the bomb
 
@Basil Gawd, another craPanel user.
 
@MichaelHampton I still think we should be embracing our cloudy bretheren, but I'm voting with the consensus
 
2:53 AM
@Basil Cloud? I see nothing about cloud there?
 
@MichaelHampton Isn't cpanel a cloud website management tool?
 
@Basil It has nothing to do with cloud, as far as I know. It's just a control panel for mass market web hosting.
 
@MichaelHampton Mass market web hosting = cloud, in my opinion
 
And most people who use it do so only because they have no idea how to actually run a server.
 
btw, how's this for a first question?
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Q: How to recover deleted root of linux system?

JacksonThe story: I am using Ubuntu for my website. For a backup plan, I wrote a script. I wanted to mount an external drive, (run through crontab), backup the server, and then umount it, every night. I noticed that through fdisk -l I got: /dev/sda /dev/sdb To be sure, I ejected the external d...

 
2:56 AM
@Basil Nope, definitely not cloud
 
Poor sod :(
@MichaelHampton It feels pretty cloudy to me- I pay a monthly fee, don't have to manage hardware, have a contract that I can scale up and down with my needs...
Doesn't that kind of define cloud?
 
@Basil You don't actually have a VM though. You're either stuck on a box with 300 other people's web sites, or you're on your own VPS. Either way there are no real "cloud" features (e.g. shared storage, live migration, etc.).
 
@MichaelHampton Oh, well I have shared storage and live migration on my absolutely-not-a-cloud datacenter. That can't be part of the definition.
 
@Basil Are you running lots of virtual machines?
 
@MichaelHampton Tons, but that doesn't make us a cloud
 
3:00 AM
@Basil I suppose not, if they're all on a zSeries or something.
 
@MichaelHampton Well, we do have a vmware farm with thousands of VMs
 
@Basil Shh, don't tell management, but that's a "private cloud"
 
@MichaelHampton Private cloud is where you can pay monthly for what you use, and spin up and spin down resources for your needs. None of those things are true for us.
 
@Basil Eh? That's a "public" cloud? Like Amazon EC2
Or, wait, are the meanings of "private" and "public" reversed in Canadian English?
 
@MichaelHampton The ability to make private hardware as flexible and scalable as amazon is what I've heard private cloud defined as
We're actually working on making a real private cloud
 
3:03 AM
@Basil That's about right. If you've got a VMware "farm" you're either 90% there or all the way there already.
 
something where people pay for what they use and don't have to wait months to get resources lit up
@MichaelHampton That's just the windows and linux department, though- all office stuff. Most of the real work is done on AIX.
 
There's something you can license from VMware for that and just drop it in. I forget what it's called, but I'm sure @ewwhite knows
 
@MichaelHampton Wouldn't work out of the box- we had a lot of people in to tell us about how they could marry the infrastructure with the accounting department but they all told us we'd have to integrate for so long that we'd basically end up writing it ourselves
so we're writing it ourselves
 
Now that will be a truly private cloud.
 
Admittedly, we aren't interested in anything that won't tie together at least a few of the pillars- AIX and VMWare, at least
(and, of course, storage)
It's hilarious right now- you need a small army of itil-buzzword spouting maniacs to meet several times for a month before you'll ever see a new IP address on the network
 
3:06 AM
Yeah, throwing AIX into the mix really complicates things. You just about have to roll your own at that point.
 
@MichaelHampton It's not all that bad- have you used it much?
 
@Basil Not since the 90's?
The problem is that much of the off the shelf stuff is for Linux on x86/x86_64.
 
@MichaelHampton Imagine a massive mostly-POSIX compliant hypervisor. We've got more flexibility in terms of choosing and changing the hardware that stuff runs on than any VMWare machine
 
Or Windows, but we won't go there :)
@Basil Yes, lots of flexibility in what you can do, and then business processes to make sure you can't do anything. :)
 
@MichaelHampton getting a new LPAR in place isn't the hard part, really- it's that getting an application off the ground requires database LPARs, database licenses, a DBA, middleware LPARs for communicating with the rest of the applications, front-end LPARs, storage, networking, and then integrators to build, test, test, test, promote, then support it all.
 
3:10 AM
What do you run as a DB, DB2?
 
@MichaelHampton literally everything
DB2 on mainframe, DB2 on AIX, Oracle on AIX, Oracle on Windows, Oracle on Linux, SQL on Windows, mySQL on Linux, nosql for some science experiments, and of course all kinds of embedded shit we don't need to worry about
Have you ever heard of Netezza?
 
Nope, but I have heard of Google. Give me a minute..
 
@MichaelHampton It's pretty much magic. Or hax. Or something.
We don't do anything but keep their backups safe, but I know (since one of their admins is also a smoker) that they routinely generate millions of dollars worth of intelligence. For example, they discovered that following the locomotive operating guidelines in a specific type of track would cost more fuel than breaking the rules a bit in a specific and weird way
Now, they throttle down for a minute in a condition that's called for high throttle since forever, and we've saved literally millions of dollars of fuel (running 20 trains a day over that area)
All because Netezza is basically magic
 
Hell, one little insight like that is enough to pay for the product.
 
@MichaelHampton And then some.
That's an example of one of the embedded DBs
Anyhoo, gotta hit the sack- have a good night :)
 
3:19 AM
You too
 
3:41 AM
So.. my Google Authenticator 2-factor code was 000001...
You'd think that they would block dumb numbers from appearing, just in case someone tried to brute force it
 
@MarkHenderson What are the chances of that?
 
@MichaelHampton I once had an RSA Token read 888888 as well
I must just attract simple OTPs
 
3:56 AM
Too bad it's not a slot machine.
 
4:11 AM
Is ssh-agent basically misunderstood?
 
g'day fellas
 
Bob
@ewwhite Misunderstood?
 
@Bob I've never used it
I don't think
I'm looking for a way to streamline something that makes MANY ssh connections to a host
 
Bob
@ewwhite The only thing ssh-agent does AFAIK is cache decrypted private keys.
Only useful if you encrypt (password-protect) your keys and cbf typing in the password for each connection.
 
Maybe I'm looking for the ControlMaster option
 
Bob
4:19 AM
Yea, ssh-agent has nothing to do with optimising the SSH connection.
 
Every 10 minutes, this process opens about 50 ssh connections/second for about 10-20 seconds
 
Bob
o.o
@ewwhite On one hand, ControlMaster looks like it'll work here. On the other, KILL IT WITH FIRE
 
happy sysadmin day everyone!
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Oo
Is that the 25th?
@ewwhite insecure connection + SSH tunnel seems the smart way
 
4:31 AM
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Q: Reduce remote ssh command/session logging verbosity

ewwhiteI have a number of systems that rely on application-level mirroring to a secondary server. The secondary server pulls data by means of a series of remote SSH commands executed on the primary. The application is a bit of a black box, and I may not be able to make modifications to the scripts that ...

 
Silly question but is the core issue too much crap to troubleshoot, performance or log size?
 
@JourneymanGeek yep
 
4:48 AM
@JourneymanGeek log size... and lots of stupid connections
plus it's painful at high latency
 
5:08 AM
@MichaelHampton Grrr, REDHAT!! access.redhat.com/solutions/711823
 
@ewwhite Oh really? What does it say?
 
@MichaelHampton This is a Request For Enhancement (RFE) which is being tracked in Red Hat Bugzilla #953088 for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6. If this is a feature which is of interest to your environment, then please report a case to Red Hat Support.
It would solve my problem in this question quite nicely.
Could be included in next release.
 
Bob
@ewwhite You might be able to use Match with LogLevel Error
 
@Bob well, I really want connection reuse
 
Bob
I'm just guessing based on the sshd_config manpage, though; I have no idea of LogLevel even works with Match
 
5:14 AM
which works now if I keep a master connection alive.
 
Bob
Wait, no, there's a list of allowed keywords. And LogLevel isn't included. Never mind, then.
@ewwhite Does that also deal with the log flooding?
 
@Bob yep. no log output produced
 
I think it's already in EL7
 
@MichaelHampton likely. 2 of the 3 necessary options were back ported to EL6
I know I could patch or compile by hand.... but you know, you never want to stray too far from the RHEL mothership
Ansible people seem to want this, too
 
5:34 AM
Anyone here work with Microsoft Dynamics (AX or GP)?
 
Bob
5:48 AM
@MarkHenderson That sounds like something I'd prefer to stay far away from.
 
@Bob Yeahhhhhhh
I have been tasked with reading their APIs to help a client choose which one is easier/harder to integrate with
Integrating with Dynamics GP looks like it would make me want to chop my fingers off. And intergrating with Dynamics AX makes me think I would rather purge myself on the rocks beneath a 300 meter cliff
 
6:50 AM
definitely the fingers
 
G'day
 
morning
 
7:18 AM
@ewwhite fuck ansible people.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker heh. the Java devs upstairs think we should chuck out Puppet and go to Ansible. Because Ansible uses Python.
That's the only reason
 
Seriously, shoot them.
 
no need for requirements gather, testing. none of that business.
 
If they don't understand the difference between config management and horrible ssh hacks, they're not worth the air they breathe
 
It's inherently better because Python. Derp a Derp a Derp.
 
7:24 AM
@Magellan yeah, that's devs :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker don't imagine you guys have a need for a devopsy linux engineer who's looking to get his CCNA later this winter?
 
@Magellan we do
though the CCNA isn't too relevant
 
@DennisKaarsemaker spending some additional quality time with MySQL probably be more beneficial, I'm sure.
 
doesn't hurt :)
I do need a couple of decent networking guys too, who can speak cisco and juniper, and preferably arista (we're now using 3 vendors...)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker seems to be efficient :)
 
7:33 AM
@DennisKaarsemaker ah. I'm just starting to poke around in the Junipers. They were set up in a frightening cascade of multiple single points of filure.
 
@MichelZ it's a good guard against vendor lock-in :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker and an expensive one, I guess
 
not really
we went from cisco to juniper to arista. cheaper all the way
 
yeah, but training the people and keeping them up2date on 3 platforms?
 
though "cheap" i relative when it comes to the (amount of) kit we buy :)
 
7:35 AM
@DennisKaarsemaker I'll be in touch. Getting married in a couple weeks, so I'm awfully busy at the moment.
 
@MichelZ actually not too hard.
 
Got a blind phone call today from a recruiter to go work with @DanilaLadner at Yale. Which made me giggle. I'm not moving back to New England.
 
well yeah, it's just dumb networking gear... might be easier than doing it with firewalls :)
 
@MichelZ as long as you're not trying to use firewalls as routers. oy vey.
 
firewalls by now are mostly juniper. There may be a stale ASA somehwere but that's not being toucvhed
also, I'm in a pretty shaky train, so my keyboard dances under my fingers :)
 
7:37 AM
g'nite gents. time for me to go sack out.
 
night @Magellan
 
> Subject: Your Password will expire in 8 day(s).
well, fuck you too. I just started remembering this one :/
 
Bob
@DennisKaarsemaker Just make it hunter3
 
@Bob I'm at hunter17 already :)
It's the imaginary @Hennes!
 
Morning.
 
7:49 AM
How's your corrupted VL model doing?
 
Working from home today. Which is actually quite a lot more pleasant than I expected.
Working on that right now.
 
because of p0rn?
 
morning
Apparently one of the older cats has decided to teach the youngster to hunt. He brought back live toys four times during the night...
 

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