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1:38 AM
And now for some entertainment...
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Q: What PC parts can produce bright flash, and smoke, with the PC still appearing to work fine afterwards?

JoeI heard some strange noise from my less than a year old PC when it came back from 'sleep' mode; For about 10-20 seconds I could see bright light visible through ventilation holes (somewhere near the back panel); gradually the fire/flash died down, I could still smell some smoke out of it for th...

 
@MichaelHampton hahaha
 
ha!
 
1:53 AM
oh my
(I've had that happen before. Other than the working afterwards)
Though, that was a voltage regulator blowing up... which caused a small dust explosion in the PSU it was in
 
2:07 AM
yawn
 
2:32 AM
Thats how I feel too.
its like low 20s today
Perfect sleeping weather
 
@JourneymanGeek Isn't that like winter weather?
 
@JourneymanGeek Yeah
 
Its cool for tropics weather
Its raining REALLY heavily outside
 
OH yeah, it's about midday there, right?
 
2:44 AM
yeah
11ish
 
OK, that's not so bad, then, except for the monsoon
 
yeah
which is kinda bad
I'm worried it may worsen my dog's bad leg
 
 
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4:01 AM
@mossy @Pants How's PHP development going?
 
@Wesley Ahhhhh fuck it
can't be bothered
Learning java
 
4:21 AM
Calling @FalconMomot, come in @FalconMomot. We need a tactical nope-strike on @pants!
=P
 
@Pants Oh, learning java is easy. 1. Open lid. 2. Pour in water. 3. Insert java filter. 4. Insert java. 5. Close lid. 6. Flip switch.
 
hahaha
@Pants jesus christ, PHP and java?
 
5:05 AM
lol
 
5:32 AM
@Pants your self-hatred is no laughing matter
you are a danger to yourself and others
 
@FalconMomot: My brother was wondering if your professor uses orkut
;p
Heya @Wesley
 
@JourneymanGeek heh possibly
 
5:54 AM
@FalconMomot Dont worry, I'm not learning anything.
 
6:37 AM
:P
 
6:48 AM
@FalconMomot sounds like my job. Or at least the parts of it I try to avoid.
 
g'morning
 
@DennisKaarsemaker mornin'!
 
or, as you seattleites call it: good evening :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker for most of us, yes. It's late afternoon for those of us on APAC shift though.
pull it's an on-call weekend. Been tolerably quiet with only two major issues so far.
 
G'day
 
6:54 AM
@Iain g'day sir! pleasant winter afternoon, I trust?
 
@Magellan Nay it's a pleasant summer morning with a bit of breeze
 
@Magellan do you want a new one? I'm hiring.
 
@FalconMomot In fact, yes. I'll be looking for a change soon. Need to get past my wedding though, which is happening in a few weeks.
 
well
 
@Iain d'oh! headdesk Confused you and @MarkHenderson.
 
6:58 AM
you should probably send me your resume then, if it's up to date, because it will probably take about that long before you'll have to worry about it again :)
@Magellan also, my congratulations.
 
@FalconMomot I'll see if I can get that done this week. Need to build an entire training curriculum for one of our services this week and rebuild the F5s in 2 of our DCs.
 
awesome.
... rebuild the F5s? that sounds like a pain in the ass.
 
@FalconMomot and Thank You. I'm a little nervous, but mostly very excited.
@FalconMomot yeah, they're virtual F5s in KVM. I love those things.
 
also you live in seattle and I've never met you. I'm back there in a couple weeks, so when you're not busy we should coffee. @RyJones perhaps too.
 
@Iain "permissions. wat do. hlp"
poor guy.
 
7:00 AM
@FalconMomot that would be awesome.
 
@Magellan cool. I tend to hang out at Ada's.
I can poke you in a few weeks after you're done getting married if you want :P
that must be so much work
 
@FalconMomot Ada's Books on Cap Hill?
 
@Magellan the one and only.
 
@FalconMomot nice. the girls were born at the hospital down the street. Usually a nice little Enlightened portal there too.
 
@Magellan yeah I love that ada's is green
and... you play the correct team. awesome.
represent.
... I want a pet frog now.
 
7:03 AM
Toads 4 Lyfe.
I think I've met, quite literally, 1 person in the IT industry who plays Smurf.
 
I know a few
very few
pretty much all the seattle hackers play green if they play
(when I mention it to chronomex: "aah, the battery draining tool")
 
heh. My Nexus does pretty good. The 11k mAh recharger battery helps.
 
you must have seen me around. I'm (somewhat unsurprisingly) FalconK.
 
I'm a South-ender these days. Haven't played downtown Seattle in over a year. Go by MotoMagellan.
 
cool
 
7:06 AM
@Pants it look like he's using mod_suphp - I've only ever seen that error message thrown by it. His problem is obvious if you know anything about unix file ownership
 
I play SCC on Sunday mornings. SCOVILLE is a friend of my fiance's.
 
never met them
I do occasionally play with BWarned and SomeDrunk though
 
@FalconMomot last ~15k questions asked by ~10.5k users 28% SF, 61% SO, SU 2% the rest 1% or less from all over the network
 
61%?!
well
the home site thing may also be slightly misleading
since it seems to be much easier to get rep there than here
but one does have to ask why it is that all our traffic comes from people who mostly write software
 
@FalconMomot it's not going to be that misleading though
 
7:12 AM
@Iain no, I imagine this is actually significant.
(without calculating any Z-scores at all)
 
@Iain Yeah odd error but i'm assuming that his groups are wrong.
 
@Pants did you read he error message ?
this is the significant bit
SoftException in Application.cpp:350: UID of script "/var/www/multicraft/index.php" is smaller than min_uid
 
what is that, trying to filter if something is owned by root?
#notusefulchecks
 
@Iain his test user < apache. chown www-data:www-data and add that new guy to the group might fix?
idk
 
@FalconMomot No, not directly, mod_suPHP runs a php script as the user that owns the file and it also has a config parameter which is min_uid so scripts with a UID < min_uid wont be run. It's simple isolation.
@Pants my guess is he did it all as root
 
7:18 AM
@Iain so it pretends every file is SUID? :P
it never ceases to amaze me, the things people will do to do things you allegedly shouldn't while claiming to not do them.
 
@FalconMomot sort of
 
@Iain I wish more apache tutorials covered g+s
shit it's 3am
 
@FalconMomot mod_suphp work very well in shared hosting environments
 
oh, I see.
 
@Pants I'm also guessing it's not a real Apache 2.4 error message as for 2.4 they have error codes now
 
7:22 AM
of course not. Ubuntu repo is probably ages behind.
then there's this guy:
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Q: How to install from source PHP5.5, Apache2.4, Mysql5.5

lemoncodesi have a centos 6.5 running locally as my webserver via virtual box, i only used this to test my website and wanted to simulate the real server, as much as possible i wanted to have the latest php, apache and mysql on my webserver, just that. however, centos has a default httpd (apache) @ v2.2, a...

He'll be back, i'm sure of it.
 
@FalconMomot serverfault.com/questions/615762/500-internal-error-permissions that one would show up as a SF homesite but they are almost certainly a home user
@Pants he's a dev
 
@Iain he has no other linked accounts
 
@FalconMomot so I have to assume SF homesite but they are almost certainly not a pro
 
@Iain it happens :)
 
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Q: Newport International Group Projects Company: What are the Travel Tips to Stay Healthy on the Plane?

Melodee YoungWhen you think about it, flying in a metal bird at 500 miles per hour is quite an unnatural state for our bodies to be in. We run into all sorts of problems at high altitude, like dehydration, lack of circulation, and lack of healthy food options. But with a little planning, it is possible to st...

kill kill kill
 
7:39 AM
@Iain developing for 5.1? Sounds good to me...
who maintains the ever popular remi repo?
 
8:18 AM
@Magellan killed.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker ever helpful
 
8:37 AM
morning
 
 
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11:53 AM
it is
 
 
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1:12 PM
guys when setting up a DNS server do i need to have another ip adresses? cuz my webserver is in the same place asa my dns servers
 
1:26 PM
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Q: Why does a low level format take very long time?

Jasmine LognnesI can write ~100MB/s on a particular 4TB SAS drive when it have a file system on it, but a low level format on this drive took >16 hours. That's ~70kB/s. Since there is not filesystem and only zeroes have to be written, I would have expected better performance then with a filesystem. The LLF was...

 
 
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2:52 PM
You had to low-level format new disks in the 80's.. I don't understand why people keep doing it
 
Bob
@pauska Because it sounds cool? shrug
It's LOW LEVEL!!!!111
 
3:18 PM
@pauska I am not sure how people do that. SCSI lowlevel format used to do nothing but return a 'OK, I am done'.
Which means you could low-level most SCSI disks and then happily boot from them, without reinstalling the OS. (Not quite what I was expecting at that time)
Unless SAS re-added that functionality for a common consumer, there is something odd
 
it's silly
but Jasmine/Sandra is nuts.
so yeah....
 
I have done some low-level formats last year, but that was to re-purpose some 15k disks from an old EMC array.. it took ages.
 
Last time I lowleveled we had a dozen 4GB SCSI-II drives from a mainframe and we changed the sector size from 520bytes/sector to 512bytes/sector.
 
yeah, that's what I had to do
 
Before that it was pressing the wrong button when installing a quantum LPS52S (that is 52 megabyte) SCSI drive in an amiga
 
3:25 PM
Windows did not like 520 byte sectors
 
 
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4:25 PM
@Hennes Wouldn't they have been ESCON disks?
 
Not sure. Someone else got the disks but failed to get them to work on PC style hardware.
I asked for a few disks to play around with and got them to work using sformat on a Linux box. I had lots of fun trying to figure out which parameters to use (not just sector size, but also track skew and head skew).
It took a few tries before I had reasonable performance.
The disk themselves where black, about twice as high as a current generation 3.5 inch drive and had a wide SCSI connector and power connector (not SCA)
 
I never saw a mainframe in real life until I started where I'm at, and they've been on FICON (which uses the exact same hardware as FC/SCSI) for a while
 
 
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6:21 PM
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A: Why is it important to ensure equipment is well-grounded?

IsabellaAlthough, I had already heard about the favourite electricians at Johannesburg from my father, but was too fascinating to see their website, and this is how I started knowing them more deeply.

"knowing them more deeply" wow.
 
 
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7:40 PM
ugh, so tired of questions asked in bad english about how to do inadvisable things with stupid constraints
I wonder if these people think "hmm, this silo thing isn't working out so well because none of us are working together; why don't I set up an interdepartmental meeting about this instead of trying to go over people's heads all the time?"
 
8:10 PM
@FalconMomot clicky linky ?
@FalconMomot ok found it and yeah
 
there were a couple
 
9:01 PM
Why does yum seem to be so much faster when puppet runs it?
 

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