The Comms Room

ewwhite

2:00 PM

CLASS C!

Hennes

Worse: Cisco classful private shit

CISCO class A: 10.x.x.x./8
CISCO class B: 172.16.x.x/20
CISCO class C: 192.168..x.x/24

insert 'private class' in all of the above.

Iain

@MichaelHampton what makes you think the C7 question is about a Hetzner server ?

Cold T

i thought a madman thought of that idea! like 30 of these, seriously!

Michael Hampton

@Iain The IP address is registered to Hetzner

Though it could be that he got his "VPS" from a Hetzner customer

Iain

I didn't look further than dig -x which said podnix.com

Nathan C

2:04 PM

hahaha, the recall shut down the recall lookup tool...

tosses a"connection refused"

Michael Hampton

serverfault.com/questions/638576/…

Nathan C

@MichaelHampton It was eaten by a grue.

Michael Hampton

@NathanC Oh, good.

Cold T

spam alert - serverfault.com/questions/638581/…

TheCleaner

SBS has come a long way, but I OFTEN find small companies running it that only use it for a file/print server and AD. Exchange/SQL/Sharepoint lie dormant.

ewwhite

2:16 PM

fugg...

I think I broke NewRelic

Hennes

Shudder: Sharepoint.

ewwhite

Dan

@ColdT Actually, the person may well be real

Cold T

@Dan hard to tell these days

@ewwhite yep you are done for the day

Dan

@ColdT Did a GIS of the Avatar and there's a comment on a blog post with the same name and avatar combo and it looks legit

ewwhite

2:19 PM

@ColdT I clicked "Troubleshoot" and all I got on the screen was:

MichelZ

@tombull89 @Dan don't respond to crap questions....

TheCleaner

@tombull89 Very cool...but at $10K it'll be my grandkids that will enjoy the chinese made $100 ones.

Dan

@MichelZ You're not the boss of me

tombull89

@MichelZ this is ServerFault...there are no crap questions pink-and-fluffy

MichelZ

@Dan it was merely a suggestion

ewwhite

2:21 PM

another SBS question...

MichelZ

it encourages them

ewwhite

Dan

@MichelZ Sorry man, I just don't trust anyone in black and white

@ewwhite hahaha

Iain

I was impressed by the OP here they appear to have read the comments and gone off and educated themselves and solved their own problem

ewwhite

Does SBS have a different Exchange management console?

MichelZ

2:21 PM

@Dan I think I have a colored version of that pic... :)

Dan

@Iain Yep, can get it on that

@MichelZ :)

Nathan C

Ugh, I'm getting one of those sinus headaches...feels like someone's sitting on my forehead

ewwhite

So um... SBS also seems to have some funky OU's, right?

TheCleaner

@ewwhite same EMC

ewwhite

@TheCleaner so it's just unlicensed

TheCleaner

2:25 PM

@ewwhite Yes...it auto creates quite a few

MichelZ

@ewwhite does not mean it's illegal. just that no one cared to install a license key

TheCleaner

@ewwhite no...it means you get to run through this fun KB article: support.microsoft.com/kb/2527626

ewwhite

Yeah, this is SBS preinstalled by HP. It appears to have been bundled with the ProLiant server.

TheCleaner

@ewwhite yep: h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/…

@HopelessN00b - serverfault.com/questions/638560/matching-serial-to-os-edition/…

@HopelessN00b - true. The correct answer is "contact Microsoft licensing support"...or the real world answer is that the OP now has a set of janitor's keys...when he comes to a lock try each key until one opens the door. :) — TheCleaner 12 secs ago

tombull89

lel: metro.co.uk/2014/10/21/…

Schools could use broadband instead of wi-fi, protecting them from early exposure to radiation all of my WAT

Nick

2:36 PM

Just bought a new keyboard... the box has no seal and plastic enclosing... paranoid mode kicks in in 3...2...1

ewwhite

My roof is being replaced right now... bang-bang... BOOM!

noisy day

Nick

@ewwhite play some noisy electronic music at volume

TheCleaner

Oh and @HopelessN00b - forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/…

Dan

Mock me if you must, but does this link work properly for you guys

citrixcertificationshop.com

Iain

@Dan Access Forbidden

Dan

2:42 PM

@Iain Cheers, same here

Thought it may have been a weird session issue or something

"The 72 year old said: ‘I’ve not been diagnosed by a doctor but my GP surgery is aware of my condition.’"

I'll bet they are!

Nick

@tombull89 yes, non ionizing radiation is lethal now /s

Dan

@Nick Shush now, don't come here with your "science" and your "facts" and your "experiments". Just because we can't "prove" something, doesn't mean it isn't real. You can't see the wind, can you? Bloody sheep.

Iain

> MORE: Artist who nailed his scrotum to the floor chops his own earlobe off

Nick

@Dan A whole new level of ignorance science surrenders :p

Dan

@Iain Was he an artist, or just a SysAdmin who'd gone mad?

Nick

2:48 PM

@Dan Aren't all sysadmins mad?

Dan

@Nick You joke, but there is a level of stupidity and ignorance that just leaves you nowhere to go

Iain

@Dan I dunno - it was on the meto link above

HopelessN00b

@Iain Isn't Van Gogh old news by now?

Iain

@HopelessN00b did he nail his scrotum to the floor too ?

tombull89

There's nothing wrong with wi-fi, I've been around it for years with no hharmful effecttss. If it was ddangerous it wouldn't be uused in schhooollsss ḫ͎ͅe͕̬̼̼l͉͔͎̦͓̩ͅp̺͔̼͕̝̰͙ ̻̟͍̰̹͉͇m̖̩͓̘͉̻̙̬̘e͇͉̗͙ ̗͇͕͈i͈͖͍̞̫͔̻t̲̝̫̙̳͔̺̝̟ ̲͇̫̣͈̠͓̭͕b͓̠͖u̹͔̺̜̯̭̱r̪̪͚̘͈̯n̺̹͈͍͇͈s͓͙̠ͅ

Dan

2:52 PM

@tombull89 That stupid bloody Panorama Wi-Fi episode came out just at the time I was getting a whole bunch of schools geared up for Trapeze wireless

hilarious, not

tombull89

@Dan yeah I remeber you saying, I had a dream about a parent flipping their shit about the wireless just after we put Ruckus in and I had to go and turn all the access points off before telling the staff "no moar wifi"

HopelessN00b

@Iain I dunno. I wasn't there. :)

Dan

@tombull89 I still have flashbacks. So many questions, so much fear

ewwhite

@TheCleaner (there may be an SBS question on the main site)

Nathan C

3:06 PM

Spoiler alert: radio waves have been around for over a century...

No one's ever been like "oh hey, FM radio bands are dangerous!"

Pretty much every electronic device emits radio waves in some form...

Dan

@NathanC I think you'll find radio waves have been around for much, much longer ;)

Nathan C

@Dan Even the sun gives off radio waves!

Nick

@NathanC The sun is dangerous! Lets kill it!

Dan

3:26 PM

I'm being dicked

I've been forced into a situation where I can't possibly deliver - I dislike it very much, but I think I'm going to have to go on the defensive and start the "This is what this e-mail said - which is not what you're saying now" game

Since when does "Can you go on site tomorrow?" implicitly have "and work from home for [x] days after" where [x] is undefined"

Nathan C

@Dan Be like "No."

lol

Dan

@NathanC Oh, well, apparently I agreed to it when I said I'd go in tomorrow

Cos, y'know, that's the same

Nathan C

@Dan Whaaaat....

Dan

Not too happy, but hopefully someone senior can make the call

Nathan C

That's...no.

Onsite != work from home for the rest of your life

lol

Dan

3:30 PM

@NathanC Yeah, I'm not impressed. If I wasn't a contractor, I would have really kicked off

Nathan C

@Dan "Sure, I can work from home. How does $veryhighrate per hour sound?"

Dan

@NathanC Exactly - and all she says is "Well, it's troubleshooting so we odn't know how long it'll take. It may end up being several weeks" - well that's great, but you asked me what I was doing this week, not this week and forever. And then when the booking came, there was no mention of days

My problem is being double booked with other shit, now

Oh well, I don't think I've done anything wrong. I suppose I should have clarified upfront, but I don't have the time to read inbetween the lines of e-mails

Nathan C

Ah, yeah...well, if something else comes up, you can be like "sorry, you didn't book specifically for this day, so the other commitment comes first"

If they want ongoing support they have to expect that you have other things going on as a contractor, so it's a best-effort thing and not a "do this immediately"

Dan

@NathanC It's kind of complex, I'm contracted to a consultancy

Nathan C

Oh, I see.

Dan

3:33 PM

And it's one of the consultancy salesy people who have put me in this position, rather than the end customer

But I'm also on another project, which is pretty big for them (Has lots of people doing other stuff) - problem is, the other project didn't have enough cash to warrant me full time

Which is fair enough, but they expect to be able to have me whenever which isn't cool

Problem is, of course, is I need my calendar to be full. I can't just sit around waiting for the other project to call me in

Nathan C

@Dan Yeah. They basically want you full-time without paying you for full-time.

No bueno

Dan

@NathanC precisely what they want :)

It was fine at the start because they defined what they needed in terms of weeks, but the whole project has gone super woolly now

Nathan C

@Dan Anyone you can discuss this with that has some weight to say "no, you can't do that unless you want to pay for full-time support"?

Wesley

@Dan Hourly rates and retainers keep this kind of trouble to a minimum. Project quotes always screw you... unless you're @ewwhite apparently.

ewwhite

@Wesley basically

I have 3 hours from this morning's SBS server incident.

Dan

3:41 PM

@NathanC Yeah, I've batted it back - it's an awkward one though as I really should be managing my own time, which I generally do

But yeah, this isn't my decision to make or my relationship to uphold, I'm just stuck in the middle

@Wesley Yep, the big project has been nothing but a nightmare. At least it's technologically useful, so a great project for my CV

Nathan C

@Wesley Projects almost always go over-budget

Budget 100 hours, you'll work 200

Iain

This turned into a train wreck - the comments on the answer are enlightening cpanel and dns really are a good indicator of a bad question.

can we just put it down as minimal understanding please.

ewwhite

So I woke up this morning to gunshots...

Nathan C

I've seen that done with groans iframes before... @Iain

ewwhite

Nathan C

3:51 PM

@ewwhite It's Chicago.

:P

Iain

@NathanC IDK but that's almost certainly not an SF solution.

and anway if you read the comments you'll see that the OP is entirely $clueless

Nathan C

It's really not.

@Iain Yeah...well, the answerer was kinda clueless too. A CNAME doesn't do what you think it does.

Iain

It looks like a fairly standard mod rewrite question

Nathan C

Most likely the rewrite isn't working because he's on some shared host that disabled it

Wesley

@Iain One of the only two tags I have highlighted as favorites is DNS because I like to watch people do silly things.

Iain

3:53 PM

@NathanC he's using CPanel ... the rest ...

ewwhite

@NathanC so sad

Nathan C

@Iain I stopped caring when I saw the cPanel tag

Wesley

@NathanC Projects almost always go over budget, with the only exceptions to the almost being @ewwhite =)

ewwhite

@Wesley they pay! They annoy, but they pay!

Wesley

@ewwhite I know! How you find people so happy to spend stacks is beyond me.

You're nxtlvl.

nxtlevel++ in 3D

ewwhite

3:55 PM

I wish I would have had 3 minute’s warning that you were going to erase and rebuild the old [production] server yesterday – we thought you knew that we were continuing to utilize it over the past two weeks. I was in the midst of finalizing a program that had been tested and approved when the server disappeared. But hey, water under the bridge…

20 hours ago, by ewwhite

On October 8 - hey [developers] are you guys OK and ready for Ed to WIPE OUT the old production server and reload it fresh ??? Speak now or forever hold your peace !!!!

Iain

@Wesley yeah people don't understand something so they build an elaborate idea based on the misunderstanding ... watching it crash and burn can be entertaining

Wesley

@ewwhite His use of capitalization is amusing.

ewwhite

@Wesley it's expreSSIVE

Wesley

@Iain I swear to you, knowing what an MX record is puts me in the top 5% of IT professionals.

Dan

@ewwhite Jesus

Nathan C

3:57 PM

@ewwhite People like to ignore emails...then complain when what they were warned was going to happen happens

Iain

@Wesley at least

ewwhite

they kept turning the server on even after I powered it off via ILO

Nathan C

I didn't know!!!!

Wesley

@ewwhite Kill the power at the UPS?

ewwhite

@Wesley I thought that was a pretty big sign... you know... powered-off server

and email saying, "I'm about to destroy it"

and the failed disk inside of it.

Wesley

3:59 PM

@ewwhite "Maybe serevers do that. Just turn off, you know? I mean it's a SuperMicro sooo..."

ewwhite

HP, baby.

their boss told me to ignore them... and told the devs to rewrite the program they were working on

(because source-control?)

Iain

@ewwhite They didn't have backups/checkins etc ?

ewwhite

No. I decommissioned the old prod server in September, and without my knowledge/approval, they started using the old server as a development box.

Iain

but backups, source control - where do you find these people

ewwhite

@Iain I find them here

Iain

4:05 PM

Arcane

Goatmale

Man

Nathan C

This midday production restart was brought to you by Windows Update.

ewwhite

@Goatmale you guys still have a programmer or two who deals with that language.

Goatmale

I can't for the life of my find what server is doing Exchange Online Protection AD syncing.

The language of man?

ewwhite

8 mins ago, by ewwhite

@Iain I find them here

Goatmale

4:12 PM

Oh, haha, I love it.

The owl for who was a nice touch.

ewwhite

That's the language that my produce clients use.

Goatmale

Did biz get effected by Dominick's at all?

ewwhite

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479 tweets, 2.5k followers, following 3 users

@Goatmale nope. My clients distribute to restaurants and hotels...

and casinos and prisons and Guantanamo Bay...

Goatmale

I'm not the only one who's had this issue apparently. community.office365.com/en-us/f/613/t/84284.aspx

Nick

Dropbox was hacked? I am late to the party aren't I? -.-

Iain

4:27 PM

@Nick no and yes

Nick

@Iain thenextweb.com/apps/2014/10/14/…

Talking about that

Anyone care to explain the story?

Iain

@Nick people use the same email/password all over the place

Nick

@Iain they werent particularly complex passwords :p ... checked the pastebin leaks

Iain

I've turned on mod_dumpio and watched people sending huge numbers of email/password combinations at apache

Nathan C

Huh...no one (including me) can create files on a network share

that's...not good.

I'm set to Full Control on the folder and subfolders but I can't create files...gives a "you need permission" error

And I own the folder

Nick

4:40 PM

@NathanC only root can save you now

Nathan C

Okay...apparently there's two sets of permissions. One's the local security (the Security tab in the folder) and the share permissions where "Everyone" needs the change access

Michael Hampton

Sorry, didn't realize SF was just for professional stuff. Is there a better site I could move this to @MichaelHampton? — Phillip Schmidt 9 mins ago

^^ That. How does someone come here and not "realize SF was just for professional stuff"?

MichelZ

uuuh, new UEFI bug

CVE-2014-4859 CVE-2014-4860

Iain

@MichaelHampton Nobody (who needs to) reads

MichelZ

seem to be serious

Nick

4:48 PM

@MichelZ uhh what now

MichelZ

Extreme Privilege Escalation

kb.cert.org/vuls/id/552286

Impact
A local authenticated attacker may be able to execute arbitrary code with the privileges of system firmware, potentially allowing for persistent firmware level rootkits, bypassing of Secure Boot, or permanently DoS'ing the platform.

sounds nice

Michael Hampton

I was reading about that a few months ago... apparently, before it was made public. Thanks @FalconMomot

Nick

@MichelZ guessing with a custom serial device?

Aka USB

Michael Hampton

Yeah, blowing away the system firmware qualifies as a "permanent DoS"

Nick

@MichaelHampton well, theres the sledgehammer, more effective, 100% of the time

Michael Hampton

4:53 PM

@Nick We can't sledgehammer over the Internet yet.

Dan

Think it's going to be a dark, wet and windy run tonight

MichelZ

@MichaelHampton SaaS? Sledgehammering as a Service?

4

Nick

@MichaelHampton meh my computer is offline during the bootup sequence anyway ... switch auto powers on when the system is up

Iain

@Dan I'm not going out on my usual club ride tonight. Eve wit my erm 'stability' staying upright will be difficult today

Dan

@Iain Yeah, lethal on a bike on roads

Michael Hampton

4:55 PM

@Nick The flaw isn't exploited over the network during boot! It's delivered while you're running your usual OS, whch stages the exploit as a firmware update and then waits for you to reboot.

Dan

We had some serious rain earlier, just hope that doesn't came back

Iain

We've had a couple of heavy showers

ewwhite

@Iain drunk?

Nick

@MichaelHampton o.0

Iain

@ewwhite cobs.noc.ac.uk/cobs/met/hilbre/getimage.php?code=5&span=1

ewwhite

4:57 PM

:(

Iain

yeah it was bad enough Sunday when it was only gusting to 35 or so

Dan

Right, I ought to MTFU and get out

Laters

HopelessN00b

@MichaelHampton Same as anything else. Stupid jackasses.

Michael Hampton

5:13 PM

Client email:

> Why are websites abandoning IE when the browser is installed as the standard browser on millions on XP, Window 7 machines??

MichelZ

@MichaelHampton fire that client

or make a hell lot of money from them :)

Michael Hampton

@MichelZ Not going to do that. He always pays his bills on time, and he actually listens to my advice.

Nathan C

Needed to clean up our GPOs...apparently there were duplicated settings in a few places.

Hennes

@Wesley Knowing precisely what it does? Or just that is for mail exchange and that you can have multiple priorities for mail servers? (sadly I only belong to the ones knowing the second part)

Wesley

@Hennes Yeah, just knowing that the host represented by an MX record is where mail is sent to for the domain in question. I've had so much confusion trying to coach people to get mail sent down to their server it's ridiculous. "So, my MX record points to my registrar??"

Or you'll see stuff like their mail server's public hostname with the MX record. So, mail.domain.com MX [blank]

Just crazy, crazy stuff.

Except my incompetent clients weren't as capable or willing to pay as Ed's.

MichelZ

5:18 PM

@Wesley people are stupid...

Wesley

@MichelZ So's your face!

Nathan C

I wonder if this guy on oDesk realizes I withdrew my job app...he's still messaging me. lol

MichelZ

@Wesley not as stupid as your ass

Nathan C

I realized that a majority of the work comes from the UK and surrounding areas ...no way I'd be able to make the timezones work.

Nathan C

5:46 PM

Freaking printers...I have one printer that keeps disappearing whenever the failover cluster changes servers.

mossy

5:58 PM

customer named his prod server kitten-mittens. Everyone, enjoy: youtube.com/watch?v=5fP4emqw7O4

Nick

@mossy one of my servers is named pleasewordpleasework ... a hostname I left there from a time when the system was failing to install

... not relevant but still

Wesley

@Iain I like that. As @MichelZ said, design our own close reasons. Would it fly? Most likely not. But WGAF? We care about ServerFault more than anyone else.

ewwhite

6:20 PM

I just fired a client!

8

software firm :)

Hennes

Down a gun barrel?

ewwhite

just said that their infrastructure manager wasted my time and was a bad hire

and "good luck"

Hennes

Ouch. I knew there was a difference, but this much:

Average publishing CEO salary, male: $288,500. Female: $46,000. Yes, you read that correctly. No, it's not missing a digit.

Dan

Well, outside was awful

ewwhite

@Hennes sup with that?

Dan

6:25 PM

Managed 6.8 miles in 1hr 4 though, so it'll do </blog>

Hennes

To many feminists among my friends sending me all kind of information.
While I assume 'yeah, I know, it is bad'.
But is is not 'bad', it is **BAD**.

Dan

6:37 PM

@Hennes I like to consider myself feminist, but as ever those stats don't really tell a story by themselves. Is the issue that we don't pay female CEO's enough, or that we don't let females into CEO positions at big companies?

Hennes

Probably both.

Dan

Probably, yeah

Ry Jones

@ewwhite congratulations

Dan

@ewwhite I missed this, good effort :D

Michael Hampton

6:56 PM

My pedantry?!

Is it really my fault that the UK lags behind third world countries in IPv6 deployment?

Ry Jones

@MichaelHampton it is personally your fault, yes. If only you'd harder.

Dan

@MichaelHampton Face it, IPv6 is still years away from being mass market

Ry Jones

@Dan I got it from comcast, no problem

Dan

@RyJones What's that got to do with anything? I've not been into a single corporate yet that is even considering IPv6 on their plans, let alone one that's doing something with it

I'm sure they exist, but I work with some pretty big systems integrators and I've not heard a single discussion about doing anything with IPv6

Basil

I like NAT.

Ry Jones

7:06 PM

@Dan Comcast is about as mass market as an ISP gets in the US.

Basil

And I can remember a whole address with v4

Dan

@RyJones And how many users of theirs have IPv6, how many use it and how many sites do you connect to with IPv6?

I've got nothing against IPv6 particularly, but it was 'coming soon' when I was at college 10 years ago. It's still no closer from what I can see

Hennes

I have seen a few. Mostly small technical firms.

Dan

It's like nuclear fusion - it's always perpetually [x] years away!

Ry Jones

@Hennes Microsoft uses it internally for everything

Hennes

7:08 PM

All large firms seem to use only IPv4 (and have toredo etc all enabled on their desktops and no IPv6 firewalling)

Goatmale

so many weird little windows commands that I never knew of.

4

Q: How to delete a file with a path too long to be deleted

I was working with some computer vision source code I found and didn't realize that it creates a cache file that has a VERY LONG name and now I can't delete the 2 of them. I tried to rename it to a shorter name but I can't do anything to the file, I also tried to restart my computer and see if i...

Hennes

I've been mudding over IPv6 for years now.

Basil

@Dan sploid.gizmodo.com/…

Dan

@Basil Yes, it's now perpetually 10 years away instead of 50. Hurrah!

Basil

This feels different

Dan

7:10 PM

@Basil Have they released any real detail yet?

Basil

@Dan aviationweek.com/technology/…

yup

Michael Hampton

@Dan I am not surprised to hear that. I already knew the UK was far behind. What I don't know is why.

Dan

@MichaelHampton Nor I, not that I'm helping

@Basil Colour me unconvinced - I read a few reports the other day that seemed to have a lot of scepticism from the wider scientific community.

@Basil I suspect they just need cash

Basil

I'm an optimist. I can't imagine the action they took doing them any good unless they could follow it up with something I'd really like to exist

TheCleaner

7:40 PM

@MichaelHampton - how do tag synonyms get set? For instance, if I think serverfault.com/questions/tagged/exchange-online should be changed to a synonym of serverfault.com/questions/tagged/ms-office-365 do I just suggest it on meta?

Same for serverfault.com/questions/tagged/ms-exchange-365

Michael Hampton

@TheCleaner We set them manually. Usually after someone suggests it on meta.

TheCleaner

Thank you

Iain

8:03 PM

@TheCleaner if you have sufficient rep you can start the ball rolling yourself

@TheCleaner serverfault.com/tags/ms-office-365/synonyms

TheCleaner

8:21 PM

@Iain that works for existing tags? It doesn't autocomplete...so I wasn't sure if typing ms-exchange-365 would link to the existing tag or not

Falcon Momot

I think, not only rep, but score in the tag is required.

Iain

It's not easy to do that way on sites other than SO

Magellan

8:38 PM

mornin all

TheCleaner

Salutations

Ry Jones

@Magellan good morning. hope all is well.

Cameron Verotti

Morning!

Magellan

@RyJones been better, but been worse too. been up half the night dealing with F5s and stumbled through a follow-up phone interview after doing well on Friday. OTOH, am not dead yet and there's another interview series tomorrow.

Ry Jones

@Magellan I am sure you'll knock the interviews out of the park.

Magellan

8:41 PM

@RyJones how's the commute this morning? did our neighbors learn to drive properly in the intervening 24 hours?

TheCleaner

@Magellan F5s? The ADNs, the tornados, or violently refreshing your screen?

Ry Jones

@Magellan They did! My commute wasn't impacted by the shenanigans yesterday, thankfully

Magellan

@TheCleaner hmm. ya know, at this point I would like an F5 tornado to roar through their office.

@RyJones that's good. one of my buddies works for the DOT response team in fleet management and helps out with the cameras when things get crazy. He was amazed and appalled.

Ry Jones

collection of WSDOT tweets

Magellan

@TheCleaner I've had a Sev1 open with them for 2 weeks now. They keep forgetting that it's a Sev1 and that the product is completely down while they try to find their ass-end with both hands.

TheCleaner

8:48 PM

@Magellan Ouch...and is the app/functionality down completely?

Magellan

@TheCleaner Yep. The load balancers can be configured singly, but if you try to use ConfigSync the local traffic management service hits an error condition, core dumps, and wipes its config clean.

TheCleaner

Not good.

Jacob

@MichaelHampton I didn't even notice that he put CentOS 5.9. I guess I didn't expect anyone to be running that old...

Magellan

@Jacob I interviewed with a place last year that was running a CentOS 4 still.

Jacob

@Magellan Oh dear

Magellan

8:51 PM

@Jacob The customer was still using it for their HPC cluster. And nobody has ponied up for replacing it yet.

Jacob

@RyJones That's why not commuting is nice

Ry Jones

@Jacob Of course, not commuting is excellent

Hopefully you're never caught in the West Seattle Bridge fuckery

Jacob

@RyJones I'd just bike over the lower bridge

:)

Ry Jones

I'm having too much fun snapping the carabiner off and on

@Jacob over the drawbridge that never gets stuck? good call

I like that bridge, the command tower looks high tech

Jacob

@RyJones Worse case I work at home

Ry Jones

9:00 PM

worst case is there is no power and riots kick off

Jacob

@RyJones Nope nope I'm out at that point

My car operates on gas

Ry Jones

@Jacob no riots, but the Hannakhuh storm a few years ago was pretty funny

Jacob

@RyJones What was that?

Ry Jones

Hanukkah Eve wind storm of 2006

The Hanukkah Eve Wind Storm of 2006 was a powerful Pacific Northwest windstorm that slammed into the Pacific Northwest region of the United States and southern British Columbia, Canada between December 14, 2006 and December 15, 2006. The storm produced storm to hurricane-force wind gusts and heavy rainfall, causing hundreds of millions of dollars in damage and leaving over 1.8 million residences and businesses without power. 18 people were killed, most of whom died of carbon monoxide poisoning in the days following the storm because of improper use of barbecue cookers and generators indoors. The...

thankfully the building I worked in at Microsoft had generator power for the shower room

Wesley

@RyJones Growing up I always heard the previous generation talk about the fabled Columbus day storm

Ry Jones

9:09 PM

@Wesley oy that was a big one

this one was nice, too

kce

9:24 PM

Hey. So I heard this is where I go for Live Support? I rsynced my cloud web server into my git repository so I could agile scrum and be vertically integrated cloud-to-cloud with my legacy Windows NT servers and now my email is broken. HALP.

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kce

@RyJones I guess I should do more drugs.

Ry Jones

@kce affirm

kce

And become the Hunter S. Thompson of System Admins.

ewwhite

9:38 PM

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Q: Is there a fastest way to shutdown the system?

Or is shutdown -h now the fastest it can get? I look for some syscall or similar that will allow to skip lots of the stuff done prior to shutdown (in particular to care about the running proccesses). At best I would like a kernel related solution, being ignorant to the init-middleware (like sys...

performance shutdown

Michael Hampton

Personally I prefer to manage Windows from a Windows (virtual) machine, and Linux from a Linux machine. This seems to be helping to preserve what's left of my sanity. — Michael Hampton ♦ 9 secs ago

Ry Jones

@ewwhite pull the plug

Wesley

Hey @ewwhite, that client you fired, was it the people that were rebooting the server out from under you the last few days?

Ry Jones

@Wesley I also wanted to know that, but was too afraid to ask

ewwhite

@Wesley no... it was a software firm that refused to use Windows and hired 5-6 Linux-only people to deal with a 50-person Mac-focused workforce.

Wesley

9:46 PM

@RyJones Lucky for you, I'm socially inept and don't feel shame like I ought to!

ewwhite