The Comms Room

Ry Jones

12:00 AM

like this one

neat, 0.9 oz

freiheit

Come to think of it, my favorite bookmark is crazy light, but I've never bothered weighing it....

Ry Jones

@freiheit nice

Nathan C

12:56 AM

Reply from 74.125.225.134: bytes=32 time=1985ms TTL=52
Reply from 74.125.225.134: bytes=32 time=587ms TTL=52
Reply from 74.125.225.134: bytes=32 time=1968ms TTL=52
Reply from 74.125.225.134: bytes=32 time=2457ms TTL=52
Reply from 74.125.225.134: bytes=32 time=2508ms TTL=52
Reply from 74.125.225.134: bytes=32 time=2192ms TTL=52

sigh

Ry Jones

1:35 AM

@NathanC to space and back?

Michael Hampton

Roommates on Netflix

Nathan C

;_;

Netflix: the broadband killer

Magellan

I've been on the phone with F5 for 105 minutes.....

Nathan C

If only it were possible to have two internet connections at the same house, lol

@Magellan Damn. My boss was on the phone with dell for 45 minutes today...he was pissed heh

On that note, I do believe sleep is in order... Zzzz....

Journeyman Geek

1:51 AM

@NathanC we used to have that :p

ewwhite

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Q: Scalable Multi Server E-mail setup using Linux/Dovecot

One of my clients ask me to set-up a multi server, scalable email system. I can configure multiple servers to send emails. By using PHP Mysql based login script, users will be redirected to each email server with a login cookie. Domain SPF has all those servers so it can send emails without any ...

Magellan

2:13 AM

130 minutes.....

Ry Jones

@Magellan I hope they give a happy ending

I mean, F5 is downtown. Just drive over there and holler at them

Magellan

2:38 AM

Heh. He's a nice chap from NZ.

Jacob

I've only been on the phone for 2:15 -_- Sprint

Magellan

And finally done at 2.5 hours, 2 different bugs identified and 1 broken AWS network security group policy.

Ry Jones

2:57 AM

@Magellan did they actually solve the problem?

Mark Henderson

Well my solar installation is active today

I'm officially off the grid (during daylight hours)

Michael Hampton

3:22 AM

Well, then. Here's something you might find interesting.

five-gallon-bucket-hydroelectric.org

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Impressive

I'd love to be totally self sufficient

Next is going to be a few thousand litre water tank

A 5,000 litre tank looks reasonably simple to install, and with the solar pumping it should be close to free

I could always pump from an underground tank to an above ground tank during the day when the electricity is free and then deplete the above ground tank

Falcon Momot

hmph, apparently someone has skimmed my bank card.

they should go to jail for the aggregate amount of time people must wait for theirs to be replaced.

since if we're going to have retributive justice, at least it should be poetic.

Bob

@MarkHenderson Batteries?

Or cheaper to pay for mains?

Mark Henderson

@Bob No batteries. They were an extra $10k cost, and council would almost certainly reject an application to install them

Bob

Ah. Do you use much power during the day?

Mark Henderson

3:37 AM

I honestly am not sure

Sometimes we use a lot

Sometimes we don't

Right now it was generating 3.7kw and that's enough to take the house entirely off-grid

But nobody was home except me and the installers

Bob

Huh. I'd be surprised if we used half that during a normal day.

Mark Henderson

I have an induction-based AC measuring thingie that came with the solar system which will show me my mains draw or my production, but not both

But the inverter has RS485 ports, so I will look at interfacing with that perhaps

I can always go outside to check the production if I wanted to, but that's kind of inconvenient

Ry Jones

@FalconMomot First Tech seems to have that happen often

Falcon Momot

@RyJones I have no idea where that is.

Ry Jones

3:53 AM

@FalconMomot Local credit union that seems to need to replace my (nearly unused) ATM card every couple of months due to a skimmer being found

Nathan Osman

4:28 AM

\o/

One year of uptime on my server... do I get a cookie or something?

Falcon Momot

@RyJones ha. this happens to me very rarely.

Wesley

5:17 AM

@NathanOsman Hurray! You win a cookie full of exploits!

Mark Henderson

@NathanOsman You get a smackdown for not patching

2

Didn't one of Eds produce sites he took over have an uptime of several years?

Wesley

@MarkHenderson I've had boxes up for many many years.

Not quite to NetWare levels of uptime

but around 1000 days if I recall

I'm trying to think why the largest uptime device I have would be right now

Other than stupid things like printers

or phone systems

Jenny D

morning

Wesley

I think the switch in my hobby rack has been up for two years.

@JennyD Heya

Cloud Systems Engineer - New York

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The word "cloud" is on that page 32 times.

That's so devops I just put all my website's static assets on to Dropbox.

Journeyman Geek

5:36 AM

Great idea. Poor man's cdn ;p

@Wesley: I think my old router hit about 5-6 years

Damned thing is senile now tho.

MichelZ

good day

Journeyman Geek

And, this makes me feel bad about bitching about wanting to open psts outside outlook...

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Q: How do I print 10,500 e-mails and their attachments?

For some unholy reason I am required by work to print out 10,500 e-mails AND their attachments (which accompany about 70% of the e-mails) through Outlook 2010. I, like you, am appalled at such ridiculous inefficiency and the 55,000 pieces of paper we have estimated this will cost us and the world...

email microsoft-outlook-2010 printing conversion exchange-2010

Nathan Osman

@MarkHenderson: where did I say I never patched anything?

The software is all up to date.

For all you know, I might even be using ksplice :P

Magellan

@RyJones yeah, they definitely fixed it. was brutal though, and they need far better AWS Support for their virtual edition balancers.

faker

6:26 AM

morning

Ry Jones

6:40 AM

@Magellan glad to hear it

ewwhite

7:02 AM

is this useful?

amazon.com/dp/B00I5CKF0A

Ry Jones

@ewwhite if you have to test 500 ports a day, sure

MichelZ

anything is useful for something

and if it's just to beat the crap out of users

Journeyman Geek

meh, there's better things for the latter

ewwhite

I think it prints switchport, etc.

Ry Jones

@JourneymanGeek amazon.com/RoadPro-RPTT-1-Assorted-Wooden-Thumper/dp/B001JT5CFY

ewwhite

7:07 AM

oh wait.. it doesn't test cables

Joel E Salas

7:27 AM

Holy balls we're finally on MySQL 5.5

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Sounds like legal.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, probably

Iain

sounds like they haven't heard of ediscovery

or they are complying fully with the request in an irritating manner

Joel E Salas

"we are also willing to spend in excess of a 200 Euro on software."

plus "This will take five of us one month"

priorities much?

Journeyman Geek

The point of complying fully with a requesting an irritating manner is to irritate the OTHER guy more than it irritates you.

Iain

7:41 AM

Printing is relatively easy, reading and searching much less so

although if the other side are organised, they'll just scan them

Dennis Kaarsemaker

{
"value" : "1659 days",
"name" : "uptime",
"environment" : "production",
"certname" : "imapswitch-101.ams4.corp.booking.com"
}

gotta love puppetdb :)

Joel E Salas

@Iain it might be easier to acquire the other company, add them to the AD forest, set up a trust and grant them privileges to view your company's mailbox

MichelZ

@JoelESalas you could also just export to PST...

Dennis Nolte

8:08 AM

some of german politicians think about dropping the 2nd foreign language, f.e. latin/french in school (after normally english) and instead let the kids learn programming.

another interessting point: one should not economize their private data but instead sell it so that mankind can get better results and nicer products..
ye not gonna happen.

j4i but im quite certain you guys know about it already:
"Presentation: Extreme Privilege Escalation On Windows 8/UEFI Systems"

mitre.org/publications/technical-papers/…

Dan

Morning

MichelZ

@DennisNolte you're reading heise I guess :D

Journeyman Geek

@DennisNolte Sounds like a reasonable idea. Least as long as it isn't java. ;p

MichelZ

8:31 AM

@JourneymanGeek yeah... academics use java, I think it's a given :(

RobM

Java still sucks

Like there was ever any doubt

MichelZ

I guess it was OK, until C#/.NET crushed it ;)

RobM

Java has always struck me as the result of someone's bet about whether or not it was possible to produce a language that combined as many disadvantages and as few advantages as possible from other languages.

MichelZ

@RobM because <platform independent> trumps everything else

pauska

8:55 AM

online banks in norway are finally phasing out Java for the two-factor auth

after that I don't really see any use at all for Java installed on regular client pc's

RobM

@MichelZ yep. If only that worked. If only there wasn't so much "platform independent" java that required a specific, insecure, JVM. Or if only devs didn't interpret "platform independent" as "lowest common denominator welcome here" and make java apps that suck just as badly on any platform.

MichelZ

die java, die!!!!

2

(some starbait.... sorry)

RobM

I assumed you were speaking German! "The Java, The!!!!"

2

Dennis Nolte

9:11 AM

@MichelZ obviously.

java is uni, for school back in my days it was (visual)basic + later c++
university did java aswell. so meh.

tombull89

spam flags pl0x serverfault.com/questions/638779/how-to-recover-lost-data

Dennis Nolte

@tombull89 comeone, not even 5min :(

tombull89

@DennisNolte okay, while you're at it this one too: serverfault.com/questions/364188/…

Dennis Nolte

9:54 AM

@tombull89 done :)

Dan

Big sigh

I'm in a weird place on a weird project - no idea what they want from me

2

Think I'm acting as a secret "second opinion"

Dennis Nolte

10:11 AM

@Dan you need more coffee, or less drugs.

tombull89

jesus what is it with spam today - serverfault.com/questions/638578/…

Dennis Nolte

10:33 AM

strange, after restarting the service there seems to be no load anymore. though everything seems to work and nothing is reporting errors...

i know there is something wrong, the server was never so quiet in the last 3 years..

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@DennisNolte tumbleweed.local

tombull89

3

Dennis Nolte

nice

pauska

11:11 AM

@ewwhite May I suggest DHCP guard on the switches..

Nick

11:43 AM

@tombull89 views not found

Nathan C

12:01 PM

@tombull89 404 profile not found

Nick

Developer: "Could you please give me the root password for DM(Main database server/ main data storage server), I won't do anything just need to configure some things"

Dennis Nolte

@Nick sure, sign here: "i want to cancel my employment with $company, effecting immediately "

ewwhite

12:35 PM

Wait... are you working on the same installation you started in March? And there were additional answers to your query in July. Hmm... — ewwhite 15 secs ago

@pauska never assume managed switches :)

cole

@Dan Interesting.

Nick

When people dont give NSFW warnings... ughhh

Dennis Nolte

@ewwhite so it's a pretty fast change in infrastructure :)

Journeyman Geek

@Nick where?

Nick

@JourneymanGeek reddit...

pauska

12:50 PM

@ewwhite unmanaged switches with VoIP.. you have the weirdest clients

ewwhite

@pauska It's what happens when people don't ask me things and shady vendors sell stuff.

"sure, we can put this phone|video|security system in... no, you don't need to involve your networking person"

next thing you know, I'm paid 20 hours to fix the result.

@DennisNolte Thank @pauska for answering it. I'm sure the OP will come back for more advice in February.

Nathan C

Anyone familiar with failover clusters and file servers?

I can't see my failover cluster shares when accessing the client access point's IP address, but I can through the DNS address...

Oh...apparently it's by design. -_-

cole

Bleh I'm so hung over today.

Dennis Nolte

@cole after those 2 mondays already, who can say differently.

tombull89

1:07 PM

@Nick NSFW: B=====D

5

Basil

morning

cole

sup @Basil

cole

1:31 PM

Man, printers can be such a pain.

I need to give a user permissions to add additional drivers - but I don't want to give him administrator access - I've tried explicit permissions on the printer and the print operators group, neither work.

pauska

on his own device, or on a print server?

Nathan C

@cole Blame Microsoft for that one.

cole

@NathanC it's frustrating

@pauska print server.

but only for specific printers.

pauska

yeah that won't work.. drivers install to the central driver location, and then you assign the driver to a printer

it's basically a software install.. no idea how you're going to fix that without local admin

maybe you can grant him a user right.. there is one for allowing driver installs

Basil

Fucking AIX

there's no maxdepth support on find

cole

1:43 PM

@pauska that was my thought - I was thinking Print Operators would be one but no dice on my test account.

Basil

so I need to make a bastardized prune command

Ryan Ries

What's goin on in cheah

cole

sup stranger

HopelessN00b

Oh, good, Windows people. Anyone seen an issue where a Windows DHCP server saturates its pipe with traffic to 255.255.255.255?

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b Nope, only you.

HopelessN00b

1:57 PM

Yeah, not exactly a surprise. Grr.

Nathan C

I mean, it does send broadcast traffic to that address when it's answering DHCP requests

But...not at a volume to saturate its connection.

HopelessN00b

Yeah, literally 10 Mbps of traffic to 255.255.255.255 ... I was hoping someone could say "oh yeah, that's [blah]" and I'd be able to avoid installing wireshark on my server. :(

ewwhite

funny when you see people who ask the same question over and over... for MONTHS

Jonathan

11 3

centos kill process apache-2.2 linux ghostscript

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b Sounds like a DoS to me...or a misbehaving client spamming DHCP broadcasts.

HopelessN00b

@NathanC Yeah, I'm sure I'll want to break my foot off in someone's ass, whatever it ends up being.

Damn users.

Iain

2:05 PM

@ewwhite how do you find them - that's 2 today

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b On that note, 10 Mbps? What are you using for a LAN, token ring? lol

ewwhite

@Iain I don't know. It's weird... If I had a problem like either of those for 6 months or more, and was being paid by an employer, it's kind of a sign that the OP can't solve problems.

Dennis Nolte

i could ask the same question as i did again myself, with slightly different words to actually show that the issue is not fixed, but shifted and still is not located.
For me at least it is because the problem costs more time than it is worth fixing (and too much other fires to put out )

ewwhite

Well, let's use the ghostscript issue. I outlined the steps I would take to try to solve the issue.

Nathan C

Ghostscript is a complex beast

I had an issue with it that caused it to just...well, not work. Had to change config files for imagemagick to get it working again

Dennis Nolte

2:08 PM

@ewwhite don't you have issues you not yet know the actual solution for and are to busy to actually work on because it does not "hurt" anyone other than yourself?

ewwhite

but at a certain point, a google for "kill process older than" would be the right path.

@DennisNolte yeah, then I'd update the original question... I have lots of long-standing bugs/issues to deal with

like the at daemon which crashes at most of my sites...

Dennis Nolte

@ewwhite hmm, guess i should do this once i have time :)

ewwhite

I had to put a Monit check in place to keep it running

HopelessN00b

@NathanC Some switch from the 90's.

ewwhite

but I dunno... maybe even going to Stack Overflow and asking for teh codez would make sense in the Ghostscript guy's case

Nathan C

2:10 PM

@HopelessN00b Jeez, heh. We finally weeded out all of our 10/100 switches when we moved.

Dennis Nolte

@NathanC lucky you, i still have some 100 in actual production, thought a 10Mbps would be enough on that spot, the hardware isn't able to write more than ~2Mb/s anyway.

HopelessN00b

This is at the site everyone hates, because the management out there are all indescribably cuntly. It would have been replaced years ago if everyone didn't avoid visiting the site like it's a toxic waste dump.

Iain

@HopelessN00b where is that ?

Dennis Nolte

On an unrelated note:
Do you guys hate it when some bloggers/journalists/devs/guys mistage Bytes with Bits or write it wrong, saying f.e. i have a 16MBps connection and do X..
Often you can tell from the context, but sometimes you just know he does not know what he speaks of.

Makes the whole point of reading it go: meh,next

HopelessN00b

@Iain BFE, Kentucky.

Iain

2:14 PM

Cheers - now I'm non the wiser ;)

HopelessN00b

The other part of the problem.... who wants to go to rural Kentucky, where the nearest Walmart is almost 50 miles down the interstate?

Dennis Nolte

@HopelessN00b the paranoid ones?

HopelessN00b

@Iain Yeah, well, if you didn't know better than to avoid the rural South by now, not sure I could do anything to help you. :)

@DennisNolte Nah, that's Montana/Utah/Idaho/etc. Only thing the rural South has to offer is the ability to marry a blood relative.

Nathan C

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Q: Installing SCCM Client 2012 failed: "CcmSetup failed with error code 0x80004002"

We're using Microsoft System Center Configuration Manager 2012. And I have issues installing the SCCM Client on a Windows XP Prof SP3 PC. The Log on the XP machine says: Failed to query BITS 2.5 interface with error 0x80004002 ccmsetup 22.10.2014 15:46:34 268 (0x010C) This operating syst...

windows-xp sccm sccm-2012 bits

Windows XP, ew.

Dennis Nolte

@NathanC we should do it the ubuntu way: xp is not supported anymore, upgrade, closed question

Ry Jones

2:20 PM

isn't that out of support by all means from microsoft?

HopelessN00b

@RyJones Allegedly. Although they did release a patch after the end of support for one of those big vulns a few months back. That pissed me off.

Dennis Nolte

@RyJones not completely, you can buy support for i think 250k€/year for xp, but i don't know how many licences you get for that. Some part of german government did actually buy extended support.

Ryan Ries

Guys, we are full of virus.

7

Dennis Nolte

anyway, enough work for today, until friday, have fun.

Nathan C

@RyanRies Full of virus

3

tombull89

2:31 PM

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Nathan C

@tombull89 Computers can get sick, too!

ewwhite

Does this look like a suspicious website? - paloaltofoods.com

HopelessN00b

@ewwhite Probably because of PaloAlto.

ewwhite

Barracuda is killing it... and I'm trying to understand why.

HopelessN00b

You know, on account of Palo Alto networks. Why not ask Barracuda?

ewwhite

2:37 PM

Heh...

Nathan C

@ewwhite Looks like a working website to me

tombull89

@ewwhite looks fine to me

Nathan C

wordpress-based, even

HopelessN00b

My money would be that Barracuda thinks it's a phishing site for Palo Alto networks. They've always been pretty quick to fix that kind of thing for me.

Chris S

ewwhite

2:48 PM

@HopelessN00b it could be. Kinda interesting

cole

@ChrisS LOL

MichelZ

You CANNOT install Windows XP SP3 without getting infected again. Windows XP is end of life, it does not get any more security updates and it is only a matter of time until you get infected again. — MichelZ 23 secs ago

Journeyman Geek

ow

NUKE EM FROM ORBIT!

ewwhite

3:44 PM

fuckin'-A

Ed, We still seam to bi having an issue with locate... this morning I was looking for the file COINVCHK.CSV using locate one of the file has been on the server since 10/20/14 at 4pm on my folder.. Locate found nothing!! I then went to root and ran updatedb and if found three copies. not sure what is going on.. but locate is a Quick and simple way for us to locate files and it has work on every linux server we have used.

I think this customer has a keyboard problem...

Nathan C

@ewwhite Is this the same box that you had issues with the updatedb cron job?

ewwhite

@NathanC yes, it is.

faker

@ewwhite alias locate="find / -name="

ewwhite

or should I set mlocate.cron to run every MINUTE?

Wesley

@ewwhite Yeah if they want up to the moment accuracy on locate, they need find. Are they implying that they used to get instance updates to locate?

Or are they implying that they should go back to pen and paper

ewwhite

3:49 PM

@Wesley no, the old server ran locate or slocate to updatedb daily as well.

Nathan C

alias locate="sudo updatedb && locate" ...does that even work?

>.>

recursive alias!

Ryan Ries

God I love making sweeping changes to production global DNS infrastructure without anyone noticing

Wesley

@RyanRies I love making sweeping changes to production global DNS infrastructure with everyone noticing. #BOFH

Ryan Ries

Heheh

ewwhite

but I should try to fix the broken behavior.

use find.

Ryan Ries

3:50 PM

How is the new job, @Wesley?

cole

@RyanRies I have a question for you if you wouldn't mind

about Windows DNS/Infoblox DNS

Wesley

@RyanRies Going great. Learning a lot. Most of all, getting paid, which is nice. :P

Ryan Ries

@Wesley Yes, a stable paycheck will allow you to put up with a lot more than you would otherwise. Funny how that works. ;)

@cole Ok, shoot!

cole

We're trying to move off of our smaller Infobloxes

Nathan C

@RyanRies That moment when you get an error code after conducting said global DNS change

Ryan Ries

3:54 PM

@NathanC Shhhhh don't jinx me

cole

I can do a secondary zone transfer from corp.<company>.com no problem and reverse look up zone from the Infoblox to a Windows Server - I can't however do <company>.com

Ryan Ries

What do you mean you can't "do" company.com? What are you trying to do to it?

cole

The permissions are all set correctly, and Infoblox says that in the logs they see it successfully initiating the transfer however Windows says it's refused. The logs say:

Invalid response from master DNS server at <infoblox> during attempted zone transfer of zone waters.com.  Check the DNS server at <infoblox> and ensure that it is authoritative for this zone.

Ryan Ries

zone transfer?

cole

Trying to do a zone transfer

and all the permissions are set correctly on the zone within Infoblox

Infoblox says it's a Microsoft issue.

Ryan Ries

3:56 PM

SOA record there?

If I'm on the Windows server and I do nslookup -q=soa company.com do I get a response?

cole

So if I do a stubzone - the SOA is there

Wesley

@cole Tell Infoblox they can suck it.

cole

@Wesley I want to.

Their support sucked.

Wesley

The more that vendors take sides in a problem that I'm facing, the smarter I get, because I never get more motivation to learn and retain information as I do when I'm setting out to prove someone as being horribly wrong and incompetent.

cole

@Dan sounds like there's talk of me going to Manchester soon.

Ryan Ries

4:19 PM

@cole Your Windows DNS server... is it 2003 or 2008? I seem to remember 2003 trying to use funny high-numbered ports for AXFRs and IXFRs instead of port 53.

ewwhite

ctrl slot=1 create type=ld
   drives=1I:1:1,1I:1:2,1I:1:3,1I:1:5 parityinitializationmethod=rapid
      ctrl slot=1 create type=ld drives=1I:1:1
   ssdoverprovisioningoptimization=on

that's very Powershell-like... minus the capitalizations

Jacob

4:35 PM

@ewwhite Have you disabled SSLv2/SSLv3 on your CAS Exchange servers?

ewwhite

@Jacob no

haven't done anything at all

Nathan C

Hah: amazon.com/Inktastic-Vachina-Infant-Creepers-Newborn/dp/…

Jacob

@ewwhite You know they're vulnerable then right :)

ewwhite

@Jacob calculated risk. I'm not too worried.

Bob

@Jacob SSL 2 enabled at all is a scary thought.

Jacob

4:37 PM

@ewwhite Yeah, I'm trying to disable them, but when I do OWA can't reach RPC anymore.

I wish I could leave v3 enabled, but I can't. :(

MichelZ

@Jacob Exchange 2003?

Jacob

@MichelZ 2010

MichelZ

2010 uses SSL v3?

sure about that?

Jacob

@MichelZ on IIS 7.5

@MichelZ I have no idea what happened yet

All I know is that as soon as I disabled v3 in IIS, OWA wouldn't connect to RPC

ewwhite

4:58 PM

Linux is crazzzzy! - This is a thing?

Can you just start the original process with timeout. — Zoredache 22 mins ago

freiheit

@ewwhite Yeah, I use timeout in some of my cron jobs...

if lockfile -120 -r5 -l14400 -s120 $LOCKFILE ; then if ! timeout 13200 /actual/cron/thing &>> $LOGFILE ; then echo alert about failure; fi ; rm -f $LOCKFILE; else echo alert about lock timeout; fi

timeout is in coreutils on RHEL

ewwhite

very cool.

I still average 2-3 new Linux things a week

I'm still learning CLI basics...

[root@PMS_LXC ~]# sh CP020194.scexe
CP020194.scexe: line 92: .: CPINIT: file not found
Internal error cannot continue.  See log for details
[root@PMS_LXC ~]# chmod +x !$
chmod +x CP020194.scexe
[root@PMS_LXC ~]# ./!$
./CP020194.scexe

Hennes

Is CP020194.scexe a binary?
What is the first line in CP020194.scexe?

freiheit

@ewwhite BTW, if you want me to do some puppet things for you, you totally have to tell me what they are. :)

ewwhite

#!/bin/bash
#!scexe

##############################################################
#  (C) Copyright 2001, 2002, 2005-2007 HPDC                  #
##############################################################

it unpacks a binary firmware payload

Dennis Kaarsemaker

5:08 PM

scexe's are fun

I have a generic scexe extracter somewhere.

though I think all of them support the --unpack argument

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker the disk firmware scexe's can't be executed with sh anymore

Dennis Kaarsemaker

oh?

ewwhite

and need libstdc++.i686

Dennis Kaarsemaker

well, fuckem :)

time to reverse engineer those.

ewwhite

hence me changing them to +x and running that way

Dennis Kaarsemaker

5:11 PM

@ewwhite linky?

ewwhite

4 mins ago, by ewwhite

[root@PMS_LXC ~]# sh CP020194.scexe
CP020194.scexe: line 92: .: CPINIT: file not found
Internal error cannot continue.  See log for details
[root@PMS_LXC ~]# chmod +x !$
chmod +x CP020194.scexe
[root@PMS_LXC ~]# ./!$
./CP020194.scexe

Dennis Kaarsemaker

I mean, link to the firmware. I can't be arsed to navigate HP's webmaze

ewwhite

here's the one I'm working with now: ftp.hp.com/pub/softlib2/software1/sc-linux-fw/p231590170/v86925/…

cole

@RyanRies 2008 R2

Also, this is non-AD Integrated DNS.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@ewwhite do you need the .ham file?

ewwhite

5:18 PM

@DennisKaarsemaker oh, I run the script. I never need to extract these

Dennis Kaarsemaker

dennis@spirit:/tmp$ tail -n +373 CP020194.scexe | tar zt
buildH.PDF
CP020194.xml
CPINIT
hpsetup
hpsetup.scman
infomgr-04.01.01.01.ham
lib/
lib/libcpqimgr.so
lib/libHAM-03.01.01.01.so
locale/
locale/en/
locale/en/hpupdate.msg
task.xml

Iain

@ewwhite it looks like commit 60ea57b on 2009-12-16 added older-than etc to killall

ewwhite

@Iain Yes, this has been around awhile... Interesting. - gitorious.org/baserock-morphs/psmisc/commit/…

So that's in the Fedora 12 era...

I wonder why it never made it to RHEL.

Iain

@ewwhite fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule

EL6 is off F12/13 and that change falls between them

ewwhite

it was a dark period in RHEL-land. I was working at a trading firm that needed specific kernel bits from Fedora 12, and we ended up having to deploy it into production

and it's 2014, and they're still on Fedora 12 because they couldn't get off.

Nathan C

5:38 PM

Bah, I was asked for something when I got off lunch, but I can't remember what it was.

I hate when that happens >.>

HopelessN00b

@NathanC I have a standing "write it down, or I won't remember" policy. Has the nifty perk of making many smaller, stupid or inarticulate-able requests evaporate before they even get to me.

Wesley

@ewwhite I hate it when I can't get off.

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Nathan C

@HopelessN00b Yeah, didn't help that he was asking me about something when I was in the middle of stuffing my face with foods

I really should start leaving my office space when i go on lunch

ewwhite

@Wesley There's a NSFW solution to that.

Nathan C

@ewwhite From your gimp mask experiences, I take it? :P

Wesley

5:49 PM

@ewwhite I need the kitty version. I'm not into inter species stuff.

Iain

This is why we don't want t get known for RPis serverfault.com/questions/638843/…

Wesley

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Q: Are RaspberryPi's ever on topic for ServerFault?

I'm seeing more questions to do with RaspberryPi boards. This latest one set me off: Why can't I stream more than 1 file using nginx? Is there a belief that RaspberryPis can be used in a professional capacity that would justify their inclusion on ServerFault? How should we handle questions that ...

discussion

I was shocked and appalled at there being any support for Raspies.

HopelessN00b

@NathanC Oh, and the DHCP problem was some Windows PC making ~200 DHCP requests per second. I see something new, mind-boggling and painful every day around here.

Dennis Kaarsemaker

Okay fine I'll buy a bike -- STOP RUSHING ME!!! — Wesley Jun 23 '13 at 0:54

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b That'll do it.

HopelessN00b

5:53 PM

@Wesley I can see RPis being used in a professional context from time to time... but at the same time, they're $25 a piece. Don't support/troubleshoot them, replace them the instant something goes wrong.

Wesley

Using something for business doesn't make it a business platform any more than putting on a doctors coat makes you a doctor. — Wesley Jul 9 '13 at 3:18

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Nathan C

Heh, I'm working on a RasPi solution to power a couple TVs to display stuff and things

Much cheaper than dumping $200+ on a small form factor PC

HopelessN00b

@NathanC It was creating a magnification DoS, actually, because the network gear was picking up the funky requests and forwarding it onto the server, along with the original request which made it there on its own.

Wesley

So yes, you could use it in a business environment, but it would be just like putting a Windows 2000 domain controller in a business environment. Totally possibly, just not recommended or supported. =)

Nathan C

they can be literally mounted to the back of the TV and wireless, so the only "wires" are power/hdmi

Wesley

5:54 PM

@NathanC I've considered making some digital signage stuff with raspies

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b Damn. I bet it would've slowly eaten a gigabit pipe given enough time

Wesley

@DennisKaarsemaker I bought a bike (frame).

Nathan C

@Wesley I'm testing something called "Concerto" ...it was designed for schools and such at first, but it works with the Pi

since it's all javascript-driven

ewwhite

@Wesley you never finished?

Wesley

8 mins ago, by Wesley

@ewwhite I hate it when I can't get off.

HopelessN00b

5:56 PM

@Wesley I disagree. I'd rather use RPis for shit like our PLCs (programmable logic controllers), bulletin board screens, line label printer computers, etc. In manufacturing, you have a lot of need for computers that typically get filled by a very underutilized small form factor PC crammed somewhere it doesn't really fit.

Nathan C

@HopelessN00b This. We were testing them for controlling saw stops (to control the length of a given cut)

Wesley

@HopelessN00b Right, but it's shit hardware with shit distributions and shitty support. E.g. every Windows XP box in production right now. :P

Nathan C

but they don't like the power fluctuations all that much...

Wesley

It's just a dev board.

Iain

It's a teaching aid

that's what Pis were designed for

Nathan C

5:57 PM

@Wesley I had a working "thin" client setup on it...just simply booted an RDP client.

Wesley

Wait, shit hardware, shit distributions... looks at front page Maybe RaspberryPis are on topic here.

Nathan C

I mean, when normal thin clients like Wyse terminals go for $200+ a pop, a Pi with minimal work is pretty nice

HopelessN00b

@Wesley Right, so exactly like the shit we have in place now, only much smaller, much easier to standardize on, and much easier to get budgetary approval for to replace. :)

Got tonnes of semi-broken/semi-functional PCs attached to manufacturing equipment because the cheap-ass bosses don't want to spend $400 for a new small form PC.

Cloud Systems Engineer - New York

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