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This article refers to crime in the state of New Jersey. The Federal Bureau of Investigation has a field office in New Jersey, located in Newark. State statistics In 2008 there were 227,475 crimes reported in New Jersey, including 376 murders. By location Elizabeth According to the FBI, in 2010, Elizabeth was the twenty-fifth most dangerous city in the United States. Elizabeth has more than 1,000 violent crimes out of 100,000 people. Camden Camden has been ranked among the most dangerous cities in the United States in 2002, 2004, 2005, and 2009. Capital punishment laws Capital pu...

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Everywhere has crime

Jacob

12:31 AM

@MarkHenderson That, and there are millions of chemical plants

Mark Henderson

And they have one city that ranked 25th most dangerous - that means that there are 24 that are even worse

Michael Hampton

@MarkHenderson Before you criticize for hating on New Jersey, you really should see it for yourself. It truly is a shithole.

OK, so they cleaned up most of the medical waste on the beaches, but still...

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Obviously they all aren't bad, why else would I be going to a conference there?

Michael Hampton

Oh, there are nice places even in New Jersey. But you actively have to go look for them. They generally aren't anywhere near any major roads...

Andrew

@MarkHenderson we used to have them in country areas here

Mark Henderson

12:35 AM

@Andrew I heard rumours of one at the sunshine coast

Just south of Noosa

Jacob

Mark Henderson

@Jacob Paperclip. Bulldog clip.

Fingers

Fold the corner of them over

One of those tacks where the reverse side splits in half

Andrew

araldite

Jacob

@MarkHenderson I have 500 paperclips :)

IT WAS JOKE

Mark Henderson

@Andrew Fuckin love me some araldite

I just wish it didn't melt in the hot sun inside a car

jscott

12:43 AM

This is so... I'm not sure what this is.

-2

Q: how do i delete as a guest?

how to delete this how do i delete questions

Andrew

how to stop people storing things on USB drives? Araldite in the USB ports!

Jacob

@Andrew Had to do that at Job -2

Mark Henderson

@jscott I think he wrote it, realised it was dumb and removed it before the edit window expired so it looked like the original post

jscott

@MarkHenderson Ah that makes more sense.

ewwhite

@DennisKaarsemaker hmm, I got fired for having a side business..

Jacob

12:45 AM

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Q: Bigfish (Microsoft?) blacklisting my SMTP server - but no site says I am

I've needed to send email to some contacts of mine at Microsoft and Sony - apparently both Microsoft and Sony use Bigfish for spam filtering, I also understand that Bigfish is a Microsoft-operated service. I got this NDR for emails to Sony and Microsoft (though with a differrent Bigfish server n...

smtp blacklist

ewwhite

so I built the side business up...

Jacob

@ewwhite Aren't they now your client?

Chris S

I'm always so disappointed when a higher rep user makes some inane argument.

Michael Hampton

@Jacob He has almost 15K rep on SO. He's clearly a moron.

Mark Henderson

@ChrisS Was it me? I got schooled on SU the other day. Made me feel dumb.

Chris S

12:48 AM

@MarkHenderson Nope. I'd just pop in here an yell at you. =]

Jacob

@ChrisS OH SNAPPPP!

Kevin Soviero

I'm not sure I want to work at Rackspace after seeing this: youtube.com/watch?v=RrajnPAjgHk

Adrian

@Andrew USB restriction problems? That's one nice thing about LTSP. You can configure the terminal server not to forward the workstation USB ports to the FUSE layer.

Mark Henderson

@Andrew - those HP switches we were discussing the other day? I got a quote on them, sent that quote to Dell and said "match this". They came back $50 more expensive

I'm wondering if I should just go with Dell anyway seeing as everything else is with them

Jacob

serverfault.com/a/504300/60820b

@MarkHenderson no I hate the Delll stuff we have

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A: Installing HAProxy on CentOS 6.3?

HAProxy is not part of the general subscription. You'll need to add the "RHEL Server Load Balancer (v. 6 for 64-bit x86_64)" channel to your entitlements before you can "yum install haproxy"

Adrian

12:53 AM

@MarkHenderson You're lucky they only came in $50 more and not $500.

Mark Henderson

@Jacob You could be wrong there; check out @MichaelHampton's answer - about importing the RHEL Haproxy into CentOS

@Jacob Can you be more specific?

Problems with their networking gear? Or their servers?

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Both really, but esp. the ntwrk gear

Mark Henderson

@Jacob What's wrong with it?

Michael Hampton

@Jacob That's fine, somebody coming along with RHEL may stumble across the question. His answer would be useful to them.

Andrew

@Adrian ack, if only we could escape Windows and had fast internet connections.

Mark Henderson

12:57 AM

We've got a heap of their servers and never had an issue with any of them. But don't have any of their networking gear; so I'm serious about hearing proper criticism of it

Andrew

Can you do "local web" on LTSP?

Mark Henderson

"it sucks" won't cut it

Adrian

@Andrew If left $job[-2] because they needed to move to Windows. Was only meeting about 60% of their business needs.

Andrew

@Adrian we have too many things that are either desktop software or IE only :(

Adrian

While there were other issues such as a budget that was more of a joke than a plan, that was a big one right there.

Jacob

12:59 AM

@MarkHenderson OK, I say it sucks because: We often have ports auto negotiate to 10m on a 1Gig port, the CLI is acceptable at best, and we've had issues with SNMP sending back crazy numbers

Adrian

@Andrew Yeah, and that's what was happening there. The state instituted a unified healthcare webapp for all providers and the PM for the project had come up through 25 years at MS and didn't realize that not everyone used Windows.

Was 3 years and $5M over budget, and nobody thought to do a browser compatibility check until 90 days before the go-live date.

A friend of mine actually works in that department as a Dev, and apparently the lead PM had been ignoring browser compatibility red flags for years. Unsurprisingly, the lead PMs husband was a senior director at MS.

Mark Henderson

@Jacob fwiw, I've seen autonegotiate problems on Cisco switches (Even SE had autoneg problems), so that's by no way unique. CLI I don't give two shits about, the models we're pricing don't even have a CLI.

What sort of SNMP numbers did you see though?

Traps? OIDs? Or stats?

Chris S

No problems with my ProCurve gear =]

Mark Henderson

@Adrian That is typical. We also see that with Java - we have two clients who force you to use a Java SSL client to get onto their networks and refuse to provide any alternatives. They wouldn't accept that we don't permit Java on our servers

Chris S

I've not heard any serious arguments of Dell Servers being any better or worse than HP on the whole.

Adrian

1:06 AM

@ChrisS Same here. The state social services dept. buys them by the truckload. It's rather unfortunate that the boss at $job[-2] decided to go with IBM instead of Dell/HP.

ewwhite

@Jacob who?

WesleyDavid

1:51 AM

@ChrisS Who who who?!

Where where where?!

@MarkHenderson What did you do now?

Mark Henderson

@WesleyDavid I don't fucking know

Kevin Soviero

Hey @WesleyDavid, would you want to work here? youtube.com/watch?v=RrajnPAjgHk

WesleyDavid

@KevinSoviero Watching...

@KevinSoviero I dunno, doesn't tell me anything really. I'm not a huge workplace "yuk it up" kinda person. I want to show up, be given goals, a budget, and some space to work in. If I can get fed for free, have bottomless coffee (good coffee), a gym, and some other fun ten-minute-break things like a pool table or console games, okay, whatever. But I'm not particularly allured by the frat house culture.

Not saying that Rackspace is frat-house-culture, but from that video, I'd have more questions than answers.

Chris S

I agree. It doesn't seem particularly appealing to me

Kevin Soviero

@WesleyDavid That's what I meant, I'm kinda being scared off by that video.

Chris S

1:59 AM

Reminds me a bit of Stack Exchange - Yeah they've got food and drinks and whatnot. But only a few people have office, and no cubes. Most people are just sitting at a pile of desks down the middle of a room. It seems eternally distracting.

WesleyDavid

I want three things from a workplace: Respect, a budget, and boundaries.

Kevin Soviero

@WesleyDavid Doesn't exist :p

WesleyDavid

@ChrisS I really dislike super-open, wall-less floorplans. =/

Chris S

That makes me think of the cube forests at Amway and Intel.

Kevin Soviero

I can't wait for the Texas Linux Fest!

Chris S

2:02 AM

Their buildings are essentially a warehouse with 10' ceilings and cubes as far as you can see

Kevin Soviero

I'm so glad that the TLF is down the road from me this year.

WesleyDavid

Respect: Trust my decisions, and if you challenge my ideas make sure it's not ad hominem.
Budget: Understand the price of doing business and don't expect miracles from shoestrings, and do go open-source just because "Hey, it's free! Right?"
Boundaries: I go home, and I read, and talk to friends, and work in the yard. Calling me at 8PM is because of emergencies, and is not the norm. Don't expect me to jump on the weekends, every weekend.

Chris S

There's a lot of dutch people in West Michigan. Its funny when we get news reporters from other areas, listening to them trying to pronounce the names.

Mark Henderson

@WesleyDavid I actually bring up the issue about boundaries during the job interview

I make it clear, from then and there, that unless it's explicity part of my position, my time is my time

Chris S

Perfect example: Berger. Most people think that's McDonalds food. But the auto dealer in down is pronounced Bur-Jur (Bur, like when you're cold; Jur, like juror).

Mark Henderson

2:06 AM

So much so that when my boss here first started encroaching them I talked to him and said "Do you remember what I said, during my interview? I'm not happy with you calling me at 7pm" "But, you're on the train, you're not doing anything" "That's not the point"

My role has since changed, and I'm not expected to be available to a certain extent all the time - even on holidays, but I accept that as a part of increased responsibilities.

WesleyDavid

@MarkHenderson Yeah - it's tough. =/

My innards feel like there's a Luche Libre cage match going on.

Chris S

The new girl on the news was just talking about Jessica Heringa, who was abducted from her work last Friday. She pronounced it "he-RING-a", but it's "HER-in-ga"

Mark Henderson

@ChrisS Well it's the girls fault for having a difficult surname

WesleyDavid

@freiheit How about this bike:

Mark Henderson

My cousin just got married and took her husbands name. She went from simple (henderson) to insane (maruji-dfjudfndsjk)

Chris S

2:09 AM

@MarkHenderson It's a pretty common name around here...

Andrew

@MarkHenderson I blame the Romans for their non-phonetic alphabet :P

@WesleyDavid looks like something one of my uncles would make.

Mark Henderson

@WesleyDavid Saw photos of those things going around on G+ today

That and that Breaking Bad Lego video

(which is aweome, btw)

Andrew

or better yet, a lawnmower attached to a dog. dog runs around, cuts grass!

Chris S

@MarkHenderson One of my friends just went the other way from "Musialczyk" (MU-chow-chack) to Munos (MUN-yos)

Andrew

hopefully does not roll over and mow self

Mark Henderson

2:12 AM

@ChrisS I'd still get that wrong - "Mun-Os"

Chris S

@MarkHenderson Close enough... It's Spanish.. But I'd take that any day over Polish

Mark Henderson

@ChrisS Haha yeah I have a friend with a polish name. Njemczyk

(Nem-cack)

Although my friend whose surname is Nagy insists on having it pronounced "Nodge"

Chris S

That's odd

Kevin Soviero

My pet rat scratched the crap out of my neck...

WesleyDavid

@KevinSoviero No means no, jerkwad.

Kevin Soviero

2:15 AM

@WesleyDavid WTF!?

Ward

@WesleyDavid It's too bad you can't move up here, and even if you did I've already got the job... The trust is both implicit and explicit here, everyone goes out and does other stuff on weekends. And we avoid MS because once they rope you in, you can't get away.

Chris S

My great great grandparents had the name "Maciejewski" before immigrating to the US where immigration assigned them the new last name "Mac". I can't entirely blame them.

Kevin Soviero

@Ward Where is "up here?"

Ward

@ChrisS Matthew-ski? WTF is that? Polish crossed with Russian?

@KevinSoviero Vancouver BC

AKA Soggy-town

Chris S

@Ward It translates as Little Mathew, as in Mathew's descendents.

Ward

2:19 AM

Ahh... makes sense.

Ma-chee-ev-skee ?

Kevin Soviero

@Ward While I've always wanted to move to Seattle, WA, where it rains more than it's sunny. However, moving to a whole nother country is too much.

Chris S

It's a shame my great grand parents died when I was a dumb kid.... My great-grandpa tried to teach us some Polish while he was in the hospital (died a few days later). I didn't know he even spoke Polish until then.

Ward

I can never keep Vietnamese straight... Nguyen

Mark Henderson

@Ward New-En

ewwhite

"Win"

Mark Henderson

2:33 AM

^ WTF, did someone not pass grade 5? Where's the fucking legend, cunts?

How the hell am I meant to know what any of tha tmeans

That's an interface usage chart from our country's biggest ISP for a leased line

WesleyDavid

@Ward I'd move to BC... maybe. Rainy, dark weather does have a bad effect on me, but maybe not as much now that I'm older.

@ewwhite Stronger than ever?

Michael Hampton

2:55 AM

Bored?

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Q: Why do ISPs change your ip?

Is there any specific reason an ISP will need to change your ip (what is the purpose of a dynamic ip versus a static ip). For me it seems to happen every 6 months, while for someone I know, it does it once a week.

ip

Jacob

@MarkHenderson Like 500Mbps on a 100Mb link

ewwhite

@pauska You online?

Ward

@ewwhite Probably not for another couple of hours... he's in ~ UTC

ewwhite

Oh d'oh...

Still sad about our SAN situation.

I think we need an EMC pro to oversee the design of our client SAN solutions.

I'm not sure how to ask for that

and @pauska is the only one who listens!

Ward

3:19 AM

@ewwhite He's done jobs in the US before, I think... get him to come over and consult.

Andrew

3:31 AM

@MichaelHampton I suspect asterix might be part of a solution but I've never used it for the dialup question

ewwhite

@Ward heh, maybe...

Can't I just use ZFS to fix everything?

WesleyDavid

Wow, I'm pleasantly surprised. The invoice designer in Quickbooks for Mac is vastly superior to the Windows version, which was a unholy terror to use.

Michael Hampton

I think someone's going to be in for a shock when they finally realize that in these "developing nations" everyone has a mobile phone, and nobody's ever seen a landline in their entire lives because the infrastructure never existed to begin with...

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Also, they rip the copper out of the ground and sell it

Andrew

@MichaelHampton rural areas that can't get ADSL, cable or satellite

Mark Henderson

3:34 AM

They also rip up fibre cos they don't know the difference

Andrew

@MarkHenderson I heard a great solution to that, use copper-coated steel wire.

Mark Henderson

@Andrew How does that help?

Andrew

sadly copper bandit's aren't stupid enough to try and steal power lines...

Ward

@Andrew You're kidding right?

Andrew

@MarkHenderson harder to cut? copper coat means it has good enough conductivity for AC due to skin effect

Mark Henderson

3:35 AM

@Andrew Ah of course

Andrew

@Ward they're made from aluminium :P

Mark Henderson

They probably just have rubbish tinsnips or something

Ward

Google: copper theft electrocution

It's happened around here a couple times.

Mark Henderson

I know that in those places they do a lot of ultra-high-frequency backhaul - in the 20Ghz+ range

Goatmale

Hi, can someone explain what Maintenance mode is used for in a VMware host?

Mark Henderson

3:36 AM

@Goatmale Doing shit you can't do while it's in normal mode

Like applying patches

Ward

canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/…

Mark Henderson

@Ward WTF DO NOT GOOGLE THAT

You get shock sites and pictures of burned bodies

Can. not. unsee.

Ward

Mark Henderson

@Ward I didn't google for "vancouver"; I copypasta'd what you wrote

Ward

"I wanna see dead, burnt bodies... veins in my teeth..."

ewwhite

3:40 AM

@Goatmale hello

Ward

I didn't even look at the thumbnails... I wanted the news stories...

ewwhite

maintenance mode is required by some features... it's mainly used in cluster setups where you don't want any VIRTUAL MACHINE activity to occur on the host

Mark Henderson

@Ward The image search is gross, btu the first hit I got and clicked on was even worse

Goatmale

whew, that's what I thought

Ward

With a domain name like "bestgore.com" you shoulda figured it out...

Goatmale

3:42 AM

how goes it my fellow humans

tdk2fe

goes well

yourself?

Michael Hampton

@Andrew Did you read that guy's question?!

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Q: Dial-up server: Setting up home telecommunications infrastructure

I have dial-up server and client software that I want to be able to test and script. Unfortunately, I don't own a landline. Much less, multiple lines that I can use to test concurrent connections. What I do have, is a handful of modems and a computer to plug them into. Is there any way that I co...

dialup

Goatmale

busy, giving some bullshit presentation tomorrow.

ewwhite

@Goatmale on what?

Goatmale

Remote Support Policy. I think it's a waste of time for 80 percent of the staff to attend but the boss says so

ewwhite

3:46 AM

who IS the boss?

Goatmale

NOC Team Lead > Director of Managed Services > Susie > Bob Knott

ewwhite

Heh, okay. Tell Susie I say hi ;)

Mark Henderson

@Ward yeah I didn't check

Goatmale

I will do that :)

Mark Henderson

@MichaelHampton Your commend made me chuckle - Does your boss hate you

Goatmale

3:53 AM

one of my coworkers was high on pain killers from an operation all day

sent out a ton NOC alerts to the wrong customers, haha.

Michael Hampton

And now for the trip down memory lane...

archive.org/details/BBS.The.Documentary

Goatmale

I wish I was cool enough when I was a kid to have found BBS

Adrian

Ah, the olden days of BBSs.

Andrew

is @cole's starred facebook link SFW?

Michael Hampton

@Andrew Apparently so.

Andrew

4:09 AM

@MichaelHampton is it interesting?

Michael Hampton

@Andrew Um...

Andrew

or just drunk people/boobs?

Adrian

So, what's the biz in Vt-capable desktop PCs nowadays?

None of my machines can do virtualization. :(

Andrew

@Adrian we have HP whatevers with stuff we don't use... SFF business desktop range

Michael Hampton

@Adrian Even really low end desktops can generally do hardware virtualization these days.

Andrew

4:12 AM

does anyone have an "idiot's guide to Intel cool stuff you possibly paid for but aren't using", or do we have to pay extra to use it?

(vPro, Intel AMT and the like)

Adrian

Yeah, workstations are a gap for me. I do IBM servers and all the PCs were 2nd hand Dells at job[-2].

Michael Hampton

@Adrian Hell, my cheap ass netbook can do hardware virtualization.

Kevin Soviero

@MichaelHampton Heck, I think they're even making Intel Atoms that can do hardware virt for low-power servers or something, right?

Michael Hampton

@KevinSoviero From a quick look at ARK, it looks like maybe 1/3 of the Atom line can do hardware virtualization.

Mark Henderson

@KevinSoviero I saw some HP server that has something like 138 discreet Atom systems in a 9RU box or something

Kevin Soviero

4:22 AM

@MarkHenderson Ya, Moonshot, that's what I was referring to, but I forgot the name.

Goatmale

What's a good album to listen to?

Andrew

@Goatmale what genre

define "good", define "album", define "listen"

Goatmale

the genre of good

Andrew

bandwidth-limited PSU hum, frequency stretched from 50Hz-15Khz

Michael Hampton

@Goatmale pandora.com/station/play/409039173494120665

Adrian

4:27 AM

I love pandora, except when I hate it

Michael Hampton

@Goatmale This is what I listen to while doing any work after hours.

Andrew

Rush, 2112

Goatmale

That is a good one.

Andrew

artembank.bandcamp.com

Adrian

Hmm. I wonder how many PCs are on the ESXi HCL. :D

Andrew

4:29 AM

altusmusic.ca/discography.html

Michael Hampton

@Adrian None....but I have put it on my cheap ass netbook.

Adrian

Yeah, found a Gateway quad core with the hd6520d video chipset that might work for $440&tax.

Michael Hampton

@Adrian Are you buying this for yourself or for work?

Andrew

@Adrian gateway, aren't they the cow computers?

Adrian

Might need to do some digging as this would also be my RHCSA/RHCE prep box.

Yeah. I didn't know they were still around either.

Michael Hampton

4:35 AM

@Adrian For my own personal use, I would not buy an off the shelf desktop. At all. Too easy to build your own, and cheaper too. Especially if you aren't planning to use Windows.

Kevin Soviero

@Adrian Where are you located? I've worked with a local Austin company called VicomPC to build Linux machines for colleagues...

Adrian

Seattle. There a Fry's 3 miles away. I want a baseline before I go into the belly of THAT beast.

Kevin Soviero

@Adrian Ooooh! Seattle! Is it true that there are no bugs... (At least when compared to somewhere like Texas)

Michael Hampton

@KevinSoviero Seattle has plenty of bugs. They're all in a nearby suburb called Redmond.

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Kevin Soviero

@MichaelHampton Oh come on, at least those bugs won't eat your food. Just steal your money.

Is it just me, or should so be spelled "soo" when used in the following sentence: "You are soo late." The reason being, that I feel like it should follow the syntax of to/too.

Adrian

4:52 AM

Yeah, Seattle doesn't have much bugs. But the same could be said for most of the West Coast. It's very very dry once it quits raining here. Summers are NOT humid here, even on the wet side of the Cascaded.

Andrew

industrial heatsink PC anyone? anandtech.com/show/6908/…

Mark Henderson

5:21 AM

@Andrew I used to run a fanless dual-processor system

The heatsinks were specifically designed for SMP systems, were about $150/each and only fit inside the case with about 2mm to spare, and they were gigantic

But, they did as advertised

WesleyDavid

Night night, my loves.

Mark Henderson

@WesleyDavid Night

Andrew

6:16 AM

@MarkHenderson these have been designed for as industrial computers, so fanless, the entire case is a heatsink... and underpowered & expensive.

look cool though.

this looks interesting too: zalman.com/global/product/Product_Read.php?Idx=183

faker

7:46 AM

Good morning

Tom O'Connor

Morning

Does anyone know how to delete and completely recreate the Active Directory on a replicated pair of AD servers? Win2k8r2

Dan

@TomO'Connor Safest way would be to demote them and then re promote them

@Dan With dcpromo?

Yep

scary.

7:59 AM

What are you trying to achieve?

Tom O'Connor

I've got a pair of DCs in VMs, and i've done something that means that I can no longer generate kerberos TGTs as Administrator

but I dunno what I did.

it's entirely a test rig

Dan

Oh...

Tom O'Connor

so i don't really care, but it'd be nice if i didn't have to rebuild them entirel

Dan

So just two DC's?

Tom O'Connor

yeeah

Dan

8:01 AM

You'll need to transfer all the FSMO roles to one and make sure it has the global catalog

Demote the other, reboot etc then promote it

Tom O'Connor

@Dan Why, if i'm going to delete them both?

Dan

Ooh, you mean you don't give a shit about the domain?

Tom O'Connor

yeah

Dan

Just go for it then

Tom O'Connor

it's the domain that's broken, i think.

Dan

8:02 AM

I presumed you wanted to maintain Active Directory.

Tom O'Connor

@Dan Nope.

Dan

In that case, it's quick enough to try.

Tom O'Connor

I wonder what happens to DFS namespaces..

Dan

Dunno, I imagine you'll find out!

Tom O'Connor

RDP goes away.

Dan

8:07 AM

Uh yeah, you want to do operations like this from the console dude!

Tom O'Connor

@Dan That's annoying.

VM Consoles suck.

Dan

Safest way, though

What's probably happened is that your conection is now no longer on the Domain firewall profile

Or it could be permissions

Jenny D

Morning

Dan

Yoyo

Tom O'Connor

@Dan Or the user account no longer exists.

tombull89

8:18 AM

Hmm. I guess "how do I delete AD" isn't a question we see here much.

Tom O'Connor

@tombull89 I suspect not.

Dan

@TomO'Connor You did it as Domain Admin, didn't you.....?

Tom O'Connor

@Dan yeah

Dan

@TomO'Connor I could type a reply, but you know exactly what expression I have on my face.

Tom O'Connor

@Dan heh

I don't do this Windows spiel very often

tombull89

8:22 AM

It's 9:23am and I've already upset someone. Good going, Tom.

You are just a jerk!!! i don't need such silly comments... either you have an answer else get off and dont be rude — maythux 49 secs ago

inb4 "professional"

Dan

That poor guy has just been double teamed by the Tom's

Tom O'Connor

" You don't just wake up one and day and decide you're going to be an Ubuntu Administrator" Actually..

I did .

tombull89

Tom + Tom = TomTom?

also <3

Tom O'Connor

At the roundabout, turn left.

</tomtom>

Dan

@TomO'Connor I'm presuming you had somewhat of a clue, though

Tom O'Connor

8:27 AM

@Dan Well, not at first.. When I was 14, i procured a copy of RH 4.0 and went from there..

Jenny D

@tombull89 With that kind of question/answer, everything that's not "here, take my entire experience and training as a gift that you do not need to work with" would be received in much the same manner...

Tom O'Connor

@JennyD Doesn't mean Tom's wrong, and the guy isn't an asshole.

@JennyD Can't tell if devils advocate or you're about to nominate for reopening.

Jenny D

@TomO'Connor I must have expressed myself really badly. I was trying to say that that guy will take everything as a "silly comment" unless it's what he wants to hear.

@TomO'Connor So, neither.

tombull89

@TomO'Connor Seems to me what Jenny's saying if even if you wrote a book of an answer and took up the whole 30,000 character limit on Ubuntu, certificates, and a ton of other stuff you'd still be called a "jerk" because it's not as simple as "get iso. burn iso. install iso. UBUNTU ADMIN"

Tom O'Connor

@JennyD It's early.

@tombull89 If there's a distro that's nearly that simple, ubuntu is it.

Actually.

He didn't say professional, he just implied it.

I can be a AIX admin by installing AIX

doesn't mean anyone should trust me with their systems

Dennis Kaarsemaker

8:34 AM

Oink

Tom O'Connor

I thought better of that, as I'm actually alright on solaris.

tombull89

Oh my god - he's going for the ragequit. His profile's been updated (on SF, anyway) to "please delete me"

Dan

@tombull89 If he tops himself, it's your fault y'know

Iain

Oh dear - someone got upset quickly and wants their account deleting now :)

Tom O'Connor

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Iain

8:49 AM

indeed

Tom O'Connor

♫ Pleeeeeease delete me, let me go. For I don't want to ask you, any more ♫

</engelbert>

tombull89

I wonder if those that email team@stackexchange to delete their accounts put in the reasons why they want their accounts to be deleted. I bet it makes for some face-paliming on SE's end.

Cold T

morning, afternoon, evening all :)

Dan

@tombull89 Maybe he said "Well, if this was to come up in my job, here's what I'd do.....[Posts on SE]"

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