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9:00 AM
The funny thing is that he posted on MSO rather than SO :P
 
@tombull89 nice. I've definitely had my share of phonescreens where we heard the candidate typing
 
Dan
Oooh ooh, despite ordering from a marginally dodgy looking Chinese site my GoPro is being shipped
 
@DennisKaarsemaker If typing at least helps them get to a good answer, I'm not sure that's really a problem. Knowing how to find answers to unexpected question is a useful skill all on its own.
 
@JennyD It is a problem. I'd rather have them say "Don't know, but here's where I'd look" instead of losing 5 minutes in mumbling before getting an answer he won't have had the time to understand.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I see what you mean; trying to hide how you come up with an answer is definitely not on. I was thinking more in terms of e.g. looking up syntax or man pages.
 
9:08 AM
I don't ask questions that require that. Those suck :)
 
"does not meet our quality standards" - Fixed by rewording my title, most noticably adding a question mark to the end? That message sucks (and yes I've seen meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/92074/…)
@DennisKaarsemaker also, hello!
 
@PriceChild ohai. Are you stalking me :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Completely agreed. I got to do some web-based test that had some questions like that a while back. They even had some javascript that would intercept attempts to switch windows, to enforce that the testee shouldn't be able to look stuff up.
 
Does anyone have any insights on how to detect people running scans on $elsewhere from a server running OpenVPN ?
 
@JennyD next job please!
 
9:13 AM
@DennisKaarsemaker Only when you're not looking.
 
@PriceChild Yes, it can be a bit unpredictable and have some funny work-arounds. We don't see many people get it on ServerFault though, tends to be a StackOverflow issue.
 
@Iain SYN/sec from their connection?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I did not take that job, no... But I aced the test. (Because I have more than one computer and found no problem with looking at man pages on the other one. If they have stupid tests they get unreliable results.)
 
@JennyD I would just answer all those questions by quoting hitchhikers guide, pratchett or asimov :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I've been looking at that and the difficulty I'm having is filtering out 'legitimate' things like p2p - perhaps I'm looking over too long a timeframe
 
9:17 AM
Speaking of webbased tests: at some point we made dev candidates write a brainfuck compiler before getting an actual interview. We didn't turn anyone down based on the web test, but were trying to see if there's a correlation between results of that test and interview results. Turns out that "ability to write a BF compiler in under an hour" and "good programmer" don't correlate very well at all.
 
Dan
@DennisKaarsemaker Haha :D
 
@DennisKaarsemaker they were check button questions...
 
@JennyD oh wow. That's just awful :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I've been in interview for sysadmins. One of my favourite questions is "You arrive at the office, turn on your desk light and find that it doesn't work. There's no janitor staff around. What do you do to fix it?"
 
Dan
I know little about commercial programming, but from what I've seen of SysAdminning/Engineering the ability to simply deal with the customer appropriately is half the battle that so many people fail at.
 
9:20 AM
@JennyD assuming electricity is on (computer working) check bulb & wiring. Replace what's broken.
 
Dan
@JennyD Fix it? I'd say "Heh, power is down. Right, I'm popping to Costa and I'll be back in half an hour"
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Good answer. Only one in five start with checking electricity...
 
@JennyD Move my laptop to somewhere with natural light.
 
I've diagnosed a faulty wall outlet over the phone back when I was in internal IT help desk.
 
Morning all.
 
9:21 AM
@JennyD in reality I wouldn't start with checking electricty. I'd have noticed it was off well before I reched my desk :)
 
Morning
 
But I saw your trap :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I have had calls to help desk about computer not working when the power was off in the whole building...
I thought those were jokes before they happened to me.
 
@JennyD Weren't the phones out too?
 
@TomO'Connor They called from their mobile
 
9:22 AM
Also: I think that kind of question sucks. I'd rather say "computer" instead of desk light to make it at least related to the job.
but even then... it's a time wasting question. I'd rather use that time to ask about server troubleshooting skills.
 
Dan
@TomO'Connor Old fashioned phones used to work off the power from the PBX, which should have had plenty of redundancy for emergency use surely?
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I want to know how they react to an unexpected question that will still show how they think when trouble shooting.
 
@Dan not just old fashioned ones. POE <3
 
@Dan That's a big-ass assumption.
@DennisKaarsemaker You have to hope the switches aren't off.
 
Dan
@DennisKaarsemaker Yeah, but POE is from the switch which is a bit of a different game
 
9:23 AM
@TomO'Connor switches are on UPS here
 
Dan
@TomO'Connor I disagree - the vast majority of non VOIP phone infrastructure will work in a power outage
 
room full of UPS battery (yay reinforced floor of old bank vault) gives us 30 minutes I think (800 customer care staff on phones)
 
Our POE phones are on UPSs but I have no idea how long they'll run for.
 
Dan
@tombull89 Nowhere near as long as the person who solid it said. HTH.
 
@JennyD it's not as bad as "why do sewer pipes have round lids instead of square", but I prefer to talk shop instead. My favourite question is "whayt's the biggest problem you caused and how did you fix it". Followed up by "how did you convinve management you're not an idiot". If the candidate has a sense of humour I sometimes even ask them in those exact words :)
 
9:27 AM
@DennisKaarsemaker The first one is the most interesting one.
I also like "what do you find most irritating/exasperating at your current job".
 
Good one, haven't used that yet. Usually I go for the milder "why'd you quit?"
 
The answer is often, but not always, the same.
 
This one trips up most people: "So, you have a computer science degree. So do I. What was your favourite subject at university, and how does that translate to your current career?"
 
I don't have a CS degree... in fact, I don't have any degree at all.
 
Dan
@DennisKaarsemaker Haha, I could tell some stories with the first one
 
9:30 AM
@JennyD Ditto.
 
@Dan excellent. Most candidates kinda shut up, which is bad.
 
@JennyD I have a Diploma in Bioinformatics. Nobody's ever really asked to see it.
 
In our environment and with our way of working, you will screw something up, and you will cause downtime and cost money. I want to know if you can handle that.
If you're a blamer/hider: GTFO.
 
I took CS 101 for one term, except as a night class so it took a whole year, and that was basically just to get a paper saying that I knew something. But most of what I know, I've learned on my own.
 
Dan
@DennisKaarsemaker I suppose part of that is, once you've done it long enough you realise that huge mistakes are all part and parcel of the game and that dealing with them (And preparing beforehand) are the key thing
 
9:32 AM
Yelling out loud: "Oh fuck, I destroyed the wrong lun, and now our messaging subsystem is shafted" will make people jump up to help.
(actual story)
 
Dan
Like the time I once accidentally pulled out the wrong blade and took down an ESXi host. But it was fine because everything was redundant, vSphere HA was working and we had backups anyway.
 
When that was all fixed, someone needed a very strong coffee
 
I guess I'm lucky (and young) enough to not have majorly screwed up once. Yet.
 
Dan
@tombull89 It'll come. With experience comes seniority, and with seniority comes the chance to fuck up on epic scales
 
@tombull89 I have, the problem is figuring out which one is the worst...
 
9:34 AM
@JennyD There's a Chopper3-scale tale there somewhere.
 
Dan
My friend was writing a script which sent e-mails to a catch-all help desk e-mail. He added an infinite loop and didn't notice. I believe the count was 10,000 e-mails :D Corporate IT loved that
 
@JennyD for me that's easy. 2.5h downtime, with a 6-figure cost. Same downtime had a 7-figure cost last year but was not caused by me :)
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I've been fortunate enough at the current job that most severe screwups have been in test systems - they case costs as devs can't do their jobs without testing systems, but it hasn't affected customers.
 
just watched someone bing google. Hnng.
 
Dan
@Chopper3 In one sentence - what has been your biggest ever IT related fuck up?
(And don't say screwing an ugly bird in the server room)
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9:39 AM
@tombull89 Is that better or worse than typing google into the (google) search box so that you can then search google?
 
@Dan probably when I dragged an excel =sum bounding box wrongly which lead to 8 people being made redundant, I only spotted the error the next year - does that count? if no I've got more
 
this proxy shit is irritating me.
 
Dan
@Chopper3 As usual, I think you've won
 
Holy shit.
 
@Dan never enter a competition unless you've already won :)
 
9:40 AM
I was gonna say the worst thing I've done is probably rebooted the wrong server (print server instead of a single-app application server)
 
Dan
@Chopper3 Oh my stories are all tame, I work in education so there's no real monetary cost to downtime. And we all know the best fuckups cost the most cash :D
 
@Chopper3 more!
 
@tombull89 Did it come back?
 
@tombull89 one of the people was a guy whose wife left him and took the kids because of the redundancy, he later topped himself in on the steps of a council office - so there's SOME guilt involved from my side
 
@Chopper3 more more
 
9:42 AM
@TomO'Connor oh, yes, less than 5 minutes downtime, a couple calls of "printer isn't working".
 
@Chopper3 o.O
 
@Chopper3 I think Reinhart/Rogoff win that one; they've made a lot more people redundant with their excel error...
 
Either way, you didn't pull the trigger. He made the decision to do what he did.
 
But for every "aww, shit" moment there's always a couple of "fuck-yeah, I'm awesome" ones too.
 
@tombull89 My best moment.. probably figuring out how to scale a website to 1000 concurrent visitors a second, for $0.00
 
Dan
9:44 AM
@Chopper3 To be fair to you, redundancy is a part of modern business. Leaving your husband due to it, however, is a total cunts trick
 
@Iain got to go out but here's another - remember ogrish.com? I got a junior into that site and it eventually led to him getting arrested for filthy kiddy pics - prison, register etc. not entirely IT related but kind of
@TomO'Connor although I have pulled many a trigger
 
@Dan I suspect there was a lot underlying.
 
Dan
@TomO'Connor Oh yeah,one would presume so. But either way, not really @Chopper3's fault
 
@Dan oh and I'd never shag anyone in a server-room, that's what the spaz-bogs are for
 
@Chopper3 It'd be too cold.
 
Dan
9:47 AM
@Chopper3 I concur, though I have to say, I'm not a huge fan of toilet adventures
 
@Dan mate of mine once got it on in a portaloo
which was fine, until he tried to find his mobile phone.
 
@Dan the spackers are usually very clean due to lack of use and have that handle thing next to the loo that can come in handy, there's loads of extra tummy-wipes plus you can wash off the muck in the low sink when you're done.
 
@Dan there aren't rest rooms (i.e. rooms where you can actually rest, not bathrooms) where you work?
 
@JennyD they're called 'desks' in the UK
 
@Dan "Lovely night for it!"
 
Dan
9:50 AM
@JennyD What @Chopper3 says. We have a kitchen and a couple of meeting / work areas that I could spend 10 mins if I wanted but nowhere specific
 
@Dan They don't call it dogging for nothing.
Aw.
 
Dan
I don't think I need that on the star wall of fame!
 
I liked the rhythmic metre of that sentence.
So did she.
 
Dan
@TomO'Connor As an aside, we used to go dogger hunting when I was younger
 
@Dan I remember a kids book called Dogger.
 
Dan
9:51 AM
It kind of stopped when a girl flashed a guy and he, well, essentially ambushed us and I had to take my little Rover 214 off road to get away
 
@Dan hah.
 
Dan
@TomO'Connor I wasn't the most mature 18 - 22 year old, but I do have some good memories at least
 
I accidentally stumbled on a whole nest of doggers whilst trying to take a detour off the M40 (the day that biker got gunned down)
 
Dan
@TomO'Connor Oh yes, I remember that happening
I give up, I can't work mark down for comedic effect
 
@TomO'Connor Dogger. By Shirley Hughes. Something of a family meme.
 
9:55 AM
@tombull89 It's not a patch on this.
And no, I didn't.
 
Woah. I ordered something from Scan at 9:45pm last night, and it's just been picked and dispatched.
 
Dan
I'll find it one day, but I swear I was in a school that had a childrens book along the lines of "Mommy, where is daddy going" and was an account of a father going to prison
 
Or "Why does Julie have two mommies?"
 
G2g Meeting >:(
I hate this.
 
Dan
@tombull89 Because Julie's dad is a greedy, greedy man.
http://jailmatecards.co.uk/en/index/a1

Classy
 
10:01 AM
Followed by..
:)
from the people that brought you...
 
In Sweden there's a series of children's book that start with "Look, Max's $foo" (e.g. "Look, Max's dog"). The author decided to make one for adults. It's called "Look, Max's grave".
 
The audiobook company Audible.com has published an audiobook version of Go the - to Sleep, narrated by Samuel L. Jackson
 
Dan
So, turns out Stuart Hall was a nonce afterall
 
10:19 AM
@Dan Had Christmas dinner at the Alderley Edge Hotel (where we had our wedding reception fact fans) and he was there, pissed as you can get, at the end of the meal he got up, paid the bill and drove off - twat
 
Dan
@Chopper3 Yeah, I think you mentioned you weren't keen. May have been that I was thinking of
 
@tombull89 I've listened to that. It's awesome :)
 
 
2 hours later…
12:11 PM
odd. Destroying the DC pair also broke the routing between them
 
fun!
 
despairs
 
And took away the GPOs!
and the DFS Namespace.
Figs.
 
Dan
@TomO'Connor What did you expect, man!
 
iunno
 
Dan
12:23 PM
You're a loose cannnon
 
he's a dog, at a keyboard, wearing spectacles
 
I'm a "push the button" see what happens kinda guy
 
Awesome.
The infinite Jukebox isn't blocked by websense :D
 
Stupid snort...
 
1:00 PM
morning
 
hi Basil
0
Q: Any experience on Dynamic Disk Pooling ("next gen" RAID)?

TotorI recently read this paper from Dell about DDP aka Dynamic Disk Pooling. Quickly explained, it offers these characteristics: no reserved hot-spare (all disks contribute to IO and redundancy), almost no limit on the total number of disks within a pool, easy growing, must faster rebuild aft...

NRQ?
 
@TomO'Connor Probably, but it'd be interesting to let it go for a day and see if anyone responds.
 
@ChrisS Mm. I'd be quite interested, but I suspect it's a bit too new.
OK, is this actually spam? It's a new answer to an old Q, but it's on github.. serverfault.com/a/504454/16732
 
1:25 PM
where's @MDMarra when I need him
 
How do you nicely tell someone that they're totally clueless and really need to get someone who knows what they're doing involved??
 
0
Q: Task Scheduler: Login to a session at startup and start a desktop app?

TheCleanerISSUE: I have a Windows 2008 R2 VM that runs a 3rd party ERP system. They have a utility that will run scheduled jobs to backup the Oracle database and their app data nightly with a 7 day rotation. The problem is that it must run as a desktop app interactively within a session. It can't run a...

@ChrisS - find someone without tact or personal care to tell them
 
@TheCleaner That doesn't solve the problem, it just shifts blame.
@TheCleaner Have the account automatically login and put the app in that user's startup.
This still worked in Server 2008 (haven't tried in newer, but I assume it would): support.microsoft.com/kb/315231
 
@TomO'Connor That doesn't feel specific enough to be a real question, but I am not enough of a SE savante to know why.
 
@ewwhite here now, but not for long
@TheCleaner honeymoon..
 
1:36 PM
@ChrisS that's the holy grail of serverfault. It could answer 47.8% of all questions :)
 
yeah I know @pauska...just messing around
 
@TomO'Connor maybe edit out the request to star the repo? It's a bit suspicious that that's his only activity on SF, but he's open about writing it himself and not aggressively marketing it.
 
@ChrisS - I think the problem with the auto-login you linked is that it won't be an "RDP" session but local. It sounds nitpicky but I'd like to be able to RDP in at any time just to visually confirm the desktop app is running.
 
@DennisKaarsemaker I genuinely don't know. If it was a commercial product, I'd nail it to the fence.
but it's not.
 
@TheCleaner There's no difference between the two anymore, except that the console would be viewing the auto-login session until the screen saver auto-locked it.
If a session is connected to the console and you RDP into it, the console is disconnected.
 
1:42 PM
<jim carrey voice>real....heal....healllyyy.... I didn't know that. OK, off to experiment.
@ChrisS - stephane stole your thunder (not that you care)
 
How does one pronounce nginx? Here in the office I hear en-gee-ai-en-eks, engine-eks and even engeenix. I tend to call it engine-ex
 
@DennisKaarsemaker Naw, leave it alone.
 
@MikeyB it's not spam?
 
holy crap @evanAnderson is spooky good - serverfault.com/a/504480/7861
 
1:51 PM
"Hey, I've written one for free! Try it out! And let me know if you like it and are using it!"
We don't need to excise all humanity out of answers :D
 
Morning
 
In fairness, the answer discloses their association with the repo first thing. That's more honorable than the puppet accounts.
 
@MikeyB excellent point :)
 
@TheCleaner he's pretty awesome.
 
oh blimey. You can mount the AD as if it were a drive.
that's cray.
 
1:54 PM
that shit cray
 
@TomO'Connor Playing with PS?
 
@ChrisS yeah
 
Gotta love that stuff
 
trying to script the addition of uidNumber and gidNumber
 
@Cole - good is one thing...actually knowing the app I referred to is hilarious.
 
1:56 PM
@TheCleaner that is funny, what app is it?
 
Mornin gents.
 
@TheCleaner are you sure he's not simply reading your memory? :)
 
@Adrian you're up early.
 
Not really, still in bed. :)
 
ah
 
1:58 PM
@DennisKaarsemaker - he could be....he's probably written a netbot that runs through SF's connected IPs and gathers intel for his future takeover and eventual rename to ServerAnderson.com
@Cole. IQAlert from IQMS.
 
Ah
 
You know it's going to be a rough day when several different apps on the phone are breathlessly notifying you of high pollen counts. =\
 
Anyone here use JD Edwards EnterpriseOne ERP?
 
@Travis - company I was at for 8 years did...
 
@pauska you're here!
 
2:08 PM
@TheCleaner I'm curious how it integrated with Outlook. Was there a way within JDE that when you receive an e-mail it would go into the contact history for that company?
@TheCleaner Or could you get e-mail within JDE?
 
Contact history of the supplier/customer? That part I'm not sure of. We used Optio and Strategy in conjunction with JDE. But yes, you can send/receive emails within JDE (either the module will send via SMTP settings, or via the current logged in user's Outlook profile).
 
anyone know if you can match regex in a powershell -Filter arg?
 
@TheCleaner Thanks
 
sure...not sure if that helps, but if you have specific questions I can hit up my JDE experts over at the last job
 
is @Basil here, too?
@pauska @Basil Client at work doesn't like the EMC VNX
Feels it can't scale to what they need...
and what they need is 2000-2500 continuous random NFS IOPS
 
2:14 PM
VNX scales pretty big...
 
Hi. First time chatter. Is this the right place to talk about single-board computers like raspberry pi, arduino, etc.?
 
NO <kidding>
 
@Jess they occasionally come up in chat as some of us don't have a life and see them as a hobby
 
@TheCleaner not if it's built wrong.
 
Hello!
Wow, invited someone to chat and they actually turned up.
 
2:16 PM
meaning they went cheap on the config and now don't like it?
 
Haha. OK. Can someone recommend a single-board computer that I can use for a cheap low end web server? I want to run Linux, node.js, I don't need HDMI
 
@tombull89 weirder things have happened.
 
@TheCleaner Meaning we probably misconfigured it. The design is all wrong.
 
@Jess raspberry pi will do. if node.js has been ported to arm that is.
 
Dan
@Jess Well, the Arduino is something completely different. The Pi probably remains the cheapest, best supported cheap single board computer
 
2:17 PM
@TheCleaner, @tombull89 - thanks for helping.
 
@pauska see:
2 days ago, by ewwhite
user image
 
To be honest, I think your best bet is the Raspberry Pi. The school had some delivered earlier today and I was quite impressed. I might borrow one for the bank holiday weekend.
 
Cool, yeah rasp pi definitely has the cool name going for it. :D
 
@Jess Raspberry pi seems like a good choice. I think I've seen a node port,
regardless of that, it should compile on the pi
either crosscompile with the arm gcc toolchain
or do it on the pi itself overnight
 
Cool. If you are curious, here's my full question and 'requirements' serverfault.com/questions/504467/…
 
2:20 PM
I would vote for the Pi as your first choice...especially since you can get community answers on issues easy enough now.
 
I think our school bought 15x Pis, with the Pi, Keyboard, mouse, HDMI cable, wireless dongle, and a USB hub, as well as a 4GB pre-setup SD card for about £50.
 
::Logs back in from laptop:: Is it me or do sysadmin PCs die more spectacularly than other people's?
 
@Smallclanger My monitor caught on fire once...
 
My HD didn't just stop, it went CRACKgrizzlegrizzlegirzzlegrizzle...
 
@Adrian That's two data points. I'm convinced :)
 
@Dan, that link it perfect. Thanks! Do I need to plug the Pi into my computer or can I just set it up on the ethernet and ssh into it? I should go buy one right now! :D
 
@Jess You need to load the image of Raspbian onto the SD Card somehow, once it's on there
plug in the power, ethernet and HDMI and boot it up
You'll need a USB keyboard
 
@ewwhite - IIRC if you are wanting 2k-2500 random I/O /sec then you would require flash drives for everything. That's a large requirement...
 
2:25 PM
@TheCleaner Or a massive array of disks..
 
@TheCleaner My Nexenta box can do it all day.
 
Nope, the Pi's a full computer by itself. You'll need a HDMI cable and a keyboard, plus USB for power.
 
Dan
@Jess What Tom says, the PC is it's one standalone system and the SD card acts as the BIOS aswell as the firmware and operating system. This makes it impossible to brick, but it means you need a PC to get started by putting the image on the card. After that, treat it like a normal machine with a keyboard and monitor
 
One thing, the screens they wanted to use are VGA and DVI only. They bought HDMI>VGA converters that didn't actually work with the pis.
 
Dan
2:27 PM
@tombull89 You need HDMI to DVI
 
We've got some Arduino Unos here - much prefer the Pis
 
I made a wifi hotspot controller out of a Pi.
@tombull89 They're both awesome, except for totally different things.
 
Dan
The Arduino is more of a microcontroller, no? So geared around electronics projects rather than computing
 
@Dan Yeah, it's an ATMega with a nice board.
@Dan I use my arduino connected to the 'Pi
the Pi powers the arduino
 
Dan
Sounds sexy
 
2:28 PM
@TomO'Connor @ewwhite - small block random IOPS? Is this Clariion doc inaccurate?
 
you know it, baby.
 
@TomO'Connor lordy, some people have too much money
 
OK, so once I have the PI set up with Raspian and node.js. Can I unplug the monitor, keyboard, etc. and just have it plugged into power and ethernet and treat it like a web server? ssh into it from there on?
 
Dan
@ChrisS Indeed, about, what £500+'s worth of Pi there?
 
2:29 PM
Yeah, that would work.
@Dan And still has the computing power of my laptop
 
Yep, that's what I was going to suggest. Set it up then run it headless.
 
Dan
@ChrisS It'd be interesting to compare some stats
 
oh I saw some stats somewhere. Let me look
 
@TheCleaner The doc is right... the client's setup is a mix of VM and weird NFS workloads... they're exhausting cache.
 
@Dan A bit more, I think. I found it in some linux mag the other week
 
Dan
2:33 PM
@TomO'Connor Well, that figures. Bloody Linux freaks
 
@gWaldo any meetings today?
 
@Dan, this is a speed test of different web servers on a Pi I was reading last night on my phone: jeremymorgan.com/blog/programming/…
 
@ewwhite I'm available after 4, if that's what you're asking...
 
Thanks peeps! Signing off for now.
 
@gWaldo Not sure if something was scheduled.
 
2:36 PM
@ewwhite I haven't heard anything from Jason yet. Little birdie?
 
Time to go find a picturesque Starbucks to study in.
 
@gWaldo Hmmph. I'll check.
 
@Adrian You should really find the most dull environment you can find, lest you be distracted!
@ewwhite Ok. I was going to wait a couple days to follow up. Had you heard anything?
 
@gWaldo If the tide's in, the waves are loud enough to drown out the traffic.
 
@gWaldo no, not yet. I'll let you know.
 
2:39 PM
RaspPi = 965 MIPS, 1.2 GFLOP CPU, 24 GFLOP GPU
64 Cluster = 61760 MIPS, 76.8 GFLOP CPU, 1536 GFLOP GPU (ideally)
My i5-2520 = 53120 MIPS, 32 GLOPS CPU
My Radeon 7400M = 125 GFLOPS

64 Cluster draws an estimated 300-600w, my Laptop draws <90w
 
@gWaldo how's that for this morning's rationalization. =)
Gorramit! Why can't the SE chat window honor Vi command sequences?
 
Dan
I'm surprised at how far behind Apache is with those benchmarks
 
@Adrian 'cause it's made by people who never heard of vi :)
 
@Adrian heh, I've seen worse...
 
@DennisKaarsemaker THIS is why I think we should support EvanAnderson hostile takeover attempt. =)
2
Vi All The Things!
 
2:42 PM
@Dan - now I'm returning the favor a little, in your answer. :)
 
@ewwhite No worries; I'm pretty zen on this
 
Dan
@TheCleaner Hurrah, a little esprit de corps
 
I really want to buy a Pi, but I have no projects that would need it. I've been doing well so far to resist the 'new shiny'
 
And if anyone has copious free time to burn, here's a useful timesink that you can burn the next few years of your life going through: physicsdatabase.com/book-list-by-title
 
2:45 PM
@Dan - now where's our badges? ;)
 
@ewwhite did EMC take a look at this VNX? the performance survey?
 
@pauska they're really not willing to do much... I'll show you their emails...
 
@gWaldo - I feel the same way with an arduino. I want to build a home robot for fun but have no real purpose for it other than a waste of money.
 
Dan
@gWaldo Don't feel bad, I blew £300 yesterday on a GoPro. I'm going to have to find some interesting hobbies or something now
 
@ewwhite the flush ratio looks crazy though.. is the back end not keeping up?
 
2:47 PM
@TheCleaner I got an Arduino about 18 months ago. I feel that it's been worthwhile, but if I hadn't gotten that, I would definitely have gotten a Pi by now.
 
@ewwhite does it have fast cache?
 
@Dan Glider Suit
 
@Dan Kite Photography
 
@pauska Yes, it has FAST cache.
 
Dan
I'll just have to bore you lot with my trials and tribulations of learning to ride a bike
 
2:48 PM
This is the first one you saw... where File was only coupled to one LUN
 
No impact is expected from this change.
 
I think I'm going to run before this change is applied.
 
Dan
@DennisKaarsemaker Read As: Your system is going to go down harder than a hooker who's out of coke
 
@DennisKaarsemaker - translation = we didn't think it through...we'll apologize IF something does actually happen.
 
2:50 PM
@MikeyB Nice. And release date is in 3 weeks too.
@TheCleaner This.
 
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Q: apc "open() /www/cache/xxx failed. no such file or directory" error

xecuteI think it's because APC because I use only APC system for cache. Here is the full log: 2013/04/23 19:15:05 [error] 539#0: *1305213 open() "/var/www/cache/e4ce8db565491cdcf27ab61a441xxxx" failed (2: No such file or directory), client: 2.83.130.yyy, server: zzz.com, request: "GET /cache/e4ce8db5...

 
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Q: How should I secure a corporate wireless network?

QuintenWe are implementing a new WiFi network at my work, and I am trying to think through a design of the security for the network. Use case 1: guests. We will have a captive portal setup, guests will accept an acceptable use policy and will be restricted to only the Internet, no access to LAN. Simple...

Answer: No wireless for anyone! Muahaha!
 
@ewwhite that last email is pretty much what I would do aswell, except that I think its a shame to do all that work without adding a faster tier with 15k's or SSD's to move the hottest data to..
 
@pauska I can't tell if we have a bad EMC tech or if our guy refuses to reach out for help
 
@Adrian Looking forward to reading it - helps that I know the writer. And also understand the lament of not having good phil textbooks for Uni.
 
2:53 PM
@pauska I read that as "15k SSD's" and thought "Aha! @pauska is a muppet after all!"
 
@pauska Client has lost confidence in the VNX and doesn't wish to invest more into it unless someone were to give a real accounting of the performance boost.
 
Turns out the muppet is me, as usual :)
 
@ewwhite the only way of providing that is to get EMC to run a survey on it..
 
@pauska TO me, it seems that EMC has been bad about sales engineering... OR my staff didn't use the resources they should have. There's no reason file should have been configured this way, right?
 
2:55 PM
@ewwhite Yeah, that part about it not being best practice before is bullshit.. the filer on a VNX is basically a Celerra, and they have been striping luns as long as I can remember
this should have been multiple luns striped together to a file storage pool
 
@pauska The paper he refers to wasn't around until August 2012. But yes, someone with prior Celerra knowledge would have known..
so it leads me to believe we didn't ask for help
 
OK. this is bugging me.
in the AD powershell
 
@ewwhite I'd be surprised if a EMC tech installed this
 
I can filter from Get-Item -Path * -Filter comment=Foo
 
@pauska no, our people did.
 
2:57 PM
but how do I do -Filter comment!=foo
 
Cannot figure out why this computer account keeps disabling itself.
 
But anyways - it doesn't help to point fingers now
 
@pauska well, it does... this sales engineer is the one we were working with back then
 
Why can't you just get them to buy a new VNX with TIERED STORAGE, and migrate the customer to it? then just repurpose the old box
 
and he doesn't seem to want to get involved.
client doesn't think this VNX 5300 can support the load.
@pauska the other Ed installed it
 
2:59 PM
@ewwhite who is the sales engineer?
 
@pauska Michael
 

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