The Comms Room

MikeyB

3:01 PM

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@Dan I annoyed my old manager for months a while ago when england managed to lose a match against .nl

Matt Bear

never fails, about to go out the door... and bam, something you forgot pops up

mossy

@MattBear you get your Apache stuff figured out?

Matt Bear

ehh, we will see

I almost forgot to renew an SSL cert on our helpdesk server

its tomcat... on windows

it's a pain in the ass

Anonymous

3:17 PM

ew

Matt Bear

part of the configuration procedures from WebHelpDesk, is to set a task restarting the damn thing every day, to try to keep it from freezing up

Anonymous

-.-

Matt Bear

now lets see if it comes back up

Anonymous

it's almost empty here

MikeyB

@MattBear ... pro.

Anonymous

3:20 PM

must be holidays

Matt Bear

@MikeyB your telling me... it's to flush the JVM

MikeyB

@MattBear gotta restart the software to flush the JVM tubes, eh?

Matt Bear

@MikeyB ?

wtf....

now it's not coming up at all

Magellan

Because Java Devs

Matt Bear

this thing is such crap...

total, shit

Danila Ladner

3:25 PM

Hi folks.

Matt Bear

what the flying..... this damn server just rebooted on it's own!

im about to say "fuck it" it can live with an expired SSL

it's good till noon :p

Anonymous

@MattBear what a nice day, isn't it?

MDMarra

3:41 PM

I'm on vacation next week. Today is my last day, and lo and behold - my current customer fucked up and opened a ticket with Microsoft as a Sev C instead of A. That means 8 hour response, which mean VACATION STARTS NOW

Danila Ladner

I have recess till Jan 2

MDMarra

I miss working in higher ed sometimes

That time is typically from Dec 22-Jan 2

Dan

:D

Danila Ladner

Yeah, That is the only thing pretty much -))

Anonymous

Kansas Board of Regents restricts free speech for academics

Nathan C

3:46 PM

Half the office is on vacation for the rest of the year after today...and i'm just sitting here pretending to work

>_>

including my boss so I'll be the sole IT guy for a couple weeks

Anonymous

same here god

Anonymous

oh, the sole IT guy? enjoy your workload

Nathan C

eh, it's a small office (<100)

but, as fate says, challenge accepted

Dennis Kaarsemaker

bribes all Nathans colleagues to cause IT problems

Dan

@DennisKaarsemaker Like they need bribes!

asciiphil

3:51 PM

I get more done when my boss is on vacation...

Matt Bear

cnn.com/2013/12/18/showbiz/duck-dynasty-suspension/index.html

they fired Phil!

Journeyman Geek

yeah :/

MikeyB

4:08 PM

Uh, guys. You realise that whatshisname's main claim to fame is that he can outsmart a duck, right? Why are we listening to him?

Tweeted by serjeful on December 20, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Matt Bear

@MikeyB cause I like the show, it makes me happy happy happy

MikeyB

@MattBear Never actually seen it. Seems entertaining.

Magellan

just say no to stupid TV shows.

MikeyB

OK, was this arranged or coincidence?

Dan

The first two are just the log, the latter is a coincidence!

Matt Bear

4:21 PM

@MikeyB I like it, reminds me of my family :p

java keystores = stupid

84104

@MattBear 's/ key stores//'

Matt Bear

its what I get for being tired lol

MikeyB

@MattBear No kidding. You know what we need? ANOTHER FILE FORMAT.

Matt Bear

I was java would just.... disappear

and take tomcat with it

and anything else that has ever touched it.. and anyone that has ever owned it, and all products that they have ever made

I HATE IT

freiheit

@MattBear I assume that java keystores were designed specifically as a form of torture

asciiphil

4:28 PM

Java has a really nice runtime and standard library. Shame about the language, though.

MDMarra

4:39 PM

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Q: Cannot register new System Center 2012 Service Manager Data Warehouse after Service Manager database move

I recently migrated a customer from a 3 server SCSM topology to a 5 server SCSM topology and I am now having an issue registering the Data Warehouse Management Server with the Service Manager Management Server. All servers run Windows Server 2012 except for SCSM3, which run 2008 R2 SP1. Origi...

No one will be able to answer this, I'm sure, but why the hell not

MikeyB

@MDMarra Like that's ever stopped me.

MDMarra

hahaha

jscott

Do all Apple stores not stock 13" 16GB MBPr? Would have guessed they had a couple laying around in the back room.

MDMarra

I think 16GB is a CTO config

jscott

Yeah, it looks that way. I would have thought with soldered on RAMs it would be stocked item. But I'm often wrong.

MDMarra

4:48 PM

Shopping for a new laptop?

jscott

No xmas present for me I guess. May as well wait until after the holiday anywho. Might be some returned units showing up in the refurb shop.

@MDMarra Yeah, was hoping to pick one up on my way home from work. My Lenovo won't charge any more. Replaced battery and AC adapter. Not under warranty, and I don't want to replace the system board.

MDMarra

I'm thinking about getting a new Air. 12+h charge is so tempting

jscott

So using a notebook which needs to be plugged in all the time isn't much fun.

MDMarra

But I have a 2012 non-r MBP with a 512GB Crucial M4 SSD and 16GB RAM in it

So...I can't really justify it haha

jscott

Quite nice. 16GB doesn't even appear as an option for non-r on their store.

84104

4:52 PM

Dammit wikipedia, I already gave you money. Stop bothering me!

MDMarra

@jscott Technically not supported but it works

Chopper3

this is ace

►

Ryan Ries

5:18 PM

The cloud is full of butts

jscott

@RyanRies Oh hey, you're here. Got any time to explain a PS behavior I've only recently noticed?

Ryan Ries

Sure

jscott

Property names are case insensitive, or at least I thought. See this:

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Q: Edit gPCMachineExtensionNames Attribute via Powershell

I have to modifiy the gPCMachineExtensionNames Attribute string from a group policy in active directory with powershell. For this, I first want to read the existing string, modify this and replace the old with the modified. The attribute is defined in the policy container under: CN={POLICY GUID...

powershell ldap ldap-query group-policy adsi

Some google searching turned up this TN forum post from Richard Mueller, but doesn't explain why.

I only thought to test with all lower case as iterating $allGPOs[0].Properties listed all the names in lower case.

Ryan Ries

Interesting... let me ponder

jscott

Please do, no rush or anything. It's a curiosity to me and I've not found an answer. Granted its not been my main focus today. I do appreciate the assist.

Matt Bear

5:36 PM

man, im too tired for this shit

MDMarra

@MattBear bro

I @'d you yesterday for some SharePoint knowledge and got the cold shoulder!

Matt Bear

I need to put a wildcard ssl on a centos server

MDMarra

:(

Matt Bear

@MDMarra sorry man, didn't even see it

MDMarra

SharePoint 2010 configured for NTLM

Is it super difficult to change it to Kerberos?

Hennes

5:37 PM

When I saw this one I just had to log onto the comms room to paste it:

MDMarra

Or is it just some SPNs and flipping a switch in Central Admin

Matt Bear

not really

Hennes

A snowy day in Salt Lake City. Shunts everywhere. Bedlam ensues. Cometh the unicyclist showing off! #unicycle http://t.co/onYn7hKjaw

Tweeted by scarface_9toes on December 20, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Matt Bear

@MDMarra just register the SPN, and switch claims mode to Kerberos

MDMarra

word up

thanks pal

Matt Bear

5:38 PM

yeah, was easy, and the really nice thing about it, is that's it's (negotiate)

if you screw up, it fails over to NTLM

I figured

SPNEGO is magic.

hahaha

tell you what... if you find me a guide on getting on SSL cert over onto a CentOS server, ill link you the guide on setting up kerberos

in this case, I need the codes... im too damn tired to think now

84104

@MattBear You just sftp/scp it?

Linux is simple.

Move file. Point directive at file path. (Make sure permissions allow file to be read.) Done.

Matt Bear

5:40 PM

@84104 it's an existing wildcard cert

84104

@MattBear Also copy key then.

Matt Bear

done that, from IIS I exported the pkcs12 file with the key

now I need to extract the key right?

84104

Depends. Some things will just take pkcs12.

Matt Bear

its apache I think

all I know about this server, is that it's CentOS, running SugarCRM, and the cert expires in 3 hours

and I've been working 23 hours straight :(

84104

`openssl pkcs12 -in bundle.pfx -out server.key -nodes`
Will give you just the key in .pem format.

Matt Bear

5:45 PM

@MDMarra blogs.msdn.com/b/russmax/archive/2009/10/20/… I assume you read through that?

Magellan

Utter. Bloody. Morons.

Got an inch of snow last night. People seem to be a) driving around at 40mph in residential streets or b) abandoning their cars wherever they sit the moment their tires start spinning.

84104

openssl pkcs12 -in bundle.pfx -out server.cert -clcerts
will output the certificate, but not the chain, which might matter
openssl pkcs12 -in bundle.pfx -out server_ca.cert -cacerts
will output the chain, but not the client cert
(you can cat the two together if you need)

Magellan

I just don't understand why a little bit of snow makes Seattlites completely lose their shit.

Ryan Ries

@jscott Ugh, great, when it's got Richard Mueller stumped, I know I've got my work cut out for me: social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/…

Magellan

People in the Deep South deal with snow better than we do.

jscott

5:49 PM

@RyanRies Yeah, I linked that above. :)

84104

@Magellan We have similar issues with rain here.

MDMarra

@MattBear nope

But I will

Ryan Ries

duuhhhh

Need more coffee

Magellan

@84104 True. They're not all that great with rain here either. And it does that 200 days/year.

MDMarra

@MattBear It's in support of SCSM, so I'm doing my best to learn as little about SharePoint as possible

Magellan

5:50 PM

If it goes 2-3 days without raining, it's generally guaranteed to average 1 accident every 2-3 miles of freeway pavement when it rains next.

Basil

afternoon

84104

@Basil Timezones!

Anonymous

sup @basil

Magellan

And the also freak out when the sun comes out if it's been raining for more than a week.

Anonymous

i just found some old code i wrote, a perl irc bot that kinda worked

Anonymous

5:51 PM

assembla.com/code/dongforc-es/git/nodes/…

Anonymous

rate my n00biness

Magellan

You want a reason why so many stupid decisions are made in Windows? It's because the people making the decisions live here.

84104

@PatoSáinz AA+, would n00b again?

Anonymous

@84104 oh you actually think that code is ok? :D

84104

Oh, there was earlier context!

Anonymous

5:53 PM

lol

TheCleaner

@PatoSáinz dong fork?

Anonymous

read the link

Matt Bear

@84104 thanks, im so burnt out right now I shouldn't be doing this

but there is no one else

:(

Anonymous

@TheCleaner dongforce, old troll group i was on

TheCleaner

Ah...I read it as "Dong Fork - espanol"

84104

5:54 PM

@PatoSáinz What do you have against indentation?

Anonymous

@84104 it's assembla or my old editor, it broke my shit

Anonymous

but the file on my computer is indented

Anonymous

hang on, enjoy the syntax highlighted version

Anonymous

pastebin.com/XnkN14L4

Anonymous

GOSH, assembla's awful

cole

5:59 PM

blah

4

84104

Variables could use longer names. You have something against functions? (Flow is hard to read.)

Or better names. stuffy?

Seriously functions. This is like a run on sentence more than it is a program. This start out as a simple script or something?

Ry Jones

@cole oh cheer up

84104

@cole Have a star; get a badge!

cole

I just had an ultrasound done, I'm in an immense amount of pain

Anonymous

oh

Ry Jones

6:06 PM

@cole from an ultrasound? how is that

84104

@cole Sounds like a good time to start drinking! (Unless it's liver damage. That would suck.)

cole

@RyJones because I'm having issues with my ovaries and uterus already.

So the poking and prodding has angered them. So now they're like FUCK YOU COLE.

Ry Jones

@cole sorry to hear that.

MDMarra

@cole On the plus side, you're not currently watching Midhun from Microsoft support insist on running through the two hours of troubleshooting you've already done to correct the problem that you opened a ticket for.

cole

@MDMarra that sounds more painful than this

MDMarra

6:07 PM

"Already checked that table"

cole

@RyJones I just want to find out what's wrong.

Matt Bear

@84104 thanks for the help there, got it working

MDMarra

"Already ran that PowerShell"

"Already deleted that row"

ZZZZZzzzzzzz.......

Chris S

@84104 Cutting those characters out makes the script execute 0.01% faster!

Ry Jones

@cole sure thing

84104

6:08 PM

@MDMarra "Is your computer plugged in? This is very much common mistake."

jscott

@MDMarra Yeah, but you've done support before. You know the person saying "I already x" can be full of it. :)

cole

@RyJones It'll most likely allow for me to get my hysto covered by insurance, too. Instead of paying $12K-$17K out of pocket.

MDMarra

Yeah, but if he didn't take the FULL 8 hour window to get back to us, we might not be so under the gun

jscott

Well.. there is that...

MDMarra

I go on vacation starting in 4 hours

84104

6:09 PM

@ChrisS If you wanted to run fast you'd compile without symbols... and write in assembly.

cole

@MDMarra hooray

MDMarra

Gonna go to the Franklin Institute and see the Pompeii exhibit

Gonna go to the Movie Tavern and get wasted while watching the Hobbit 2

lots of big plans

84104

@cole Silver lining ahoy?

kce

@cole - Confirmed by support. NetApp VSC is not supported on Windows Server 2012. Migrating vCenter server! Again!

MDMarra

jesus I hate that shit

2012 R2 is out already

Get your act together, enterprise products

84104

6:12 PM

@MDMarra If they did that they wouldn't be enterprise products, now would they?

Ry Jones

@MDMarra in my experience enterprise means "way behind the curve"

MDMarra

I have a customer that can't upgrade to 2012 R2 DCs because the 2008 family is the only one certified to run Directory Services for a fucking oracle product

It does LDAP

fucking pure LDAP

kce

I thought we were being all fancy by using Server 2012 since it was the new platform - compatibility issues like all hell.

cole

Lame

MDMarra

How do they not support it on 2012+

ITS LDAP

cole

6:14 PM

@MDMarra probably will run into that issue at $newoldjob

84104

@MDMarra Schema differences? Or does it work but they haven't "tested" it?

kce

@MDMarra - Embrace and extend? When an LDAP is not actually an LDAP?

cole

But once I put the finally bullet in NT4, at least I can get them to 2008. (All the DCs are 2008 - doubt they'll let me rebuild 9 servers)

MDMarra

I mean, sure some of the Schema has changed (As in new things added), but the shit's looking at (&(ObjectClass=User)(SamAccountName=somefool))

It's been the same for going on two decades now!

84104

@kce AD is LDAP enough for OpenLDAP utilities, which use OpenLDAP libs, which is what just about all of Linux uses for LDAP. I don't think they've gone too far there.

kce

6:16 PM

@cole - Oh. The Interoperability Matrix for NetApp lists the most recent version of VSC (4.2.1) as supported on Windows Server 2008 (not R2).

84104

@MDMarra Have they tried it? Sounds like it should just work.

cole

@kce not surprised.

MDMarra

Oh, it will absolutely work

But if there's a PROBLEM, it's not supported

kce

@84104 - Probably not but it's just a guess... sometimes vendors do something "special" with protocols.

MDMarra

Oracle will tell them to downgrade the DCs to 2008 R2 before they'll field a support call

84104

6:17 PM

Sometimes I enjoy not having enough budget for support.

MDMarra

@kce microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=30734

84104

@MDMarra I just got linked to a .doc. I feel dirty.

MDMarra

yeah sorry

Meant to put a disclaimer in

But AD is LDAP compliant with the relevant RFCs

I was actually searching for a non-doc link to edit in and got sidetracked :)

kce

@MDMarra - I figured as much...

MDMarra

there we go!

Chris S

6:20 PM

@84104 -O3 -funroll-loops = YEAH BABY!

kce

@ChrisS - Do people still use Gentoo?

Ry Jones

@kce someone does

kce

I must admit a fondness for it when I was younger and stupider but I'm surprised it's still around.

cole

Friend of mine only runs Gentoo

Chris S

@kce Bro, do you even FreeBSD?

kce

6:26 PM

@ChrisS - OpenBSD.

@cole - If I wanted ports I'd use *BSD. :D

Chris S

Oh - well that sucked all the fun out of that joke.

kce

:(

84104

@kce We still have some gentoo around. It's not as bad as the SunOS, so it's got a stay of execution for a while.

Iain

@84104 SunOS as in pre Solaris ?

84104

@Iain These might actually be Solaris 1. Not sure how to check.

Iain

6:40 PM

@84104 whilst it's all SunOS it was referred to as SunOS up to 4.x then Solaris after that I think

84104

Okay, looking at a Solaris 2 machine now. I think there might be some older ones though.

Iain

ooh that is old

84104

Yeah. =(

Iain

what hardware is it running on ?

84104

Some SPARC thing.

Iain

6:44 PM

I guessed

;)

Why do you have such and ancient OS, especially when SPARC binaries are compatible with new hardware and OS .

I used to have some SPARC binaries from SunOS 4.1 running on Solaris 10

84104

Because I am not in charge, and change is "risky" and risky is bad.

Also, "Isn't it amazing that this is still running." And, of course, "It's working."

Chopper3

I'm still working FFS!

Iain

@84104 bummer - the worst thing I encountered was having to make a container and spoof the hostid using DTrace

Basil

@Chopper3 sucks, eh?

I'm at least working from home

Chopper3

yeah, what the hell am I doing!

@Basil me too

Basil

6:58 PM

but my kids keep playing with my damned keyboard while i'm trying to do stuff

Chopper3

@Basil how old are they?

Basil

@Chopper3 2 and 5

Chopper3

@Basil oh nice, bet they're really excited for christmas, my son is 18 in less than a week and my daughter's 14

Jacob

@Chopper3 I'm like 2 weeks older than your son.

Chopper3

I know - and congratulations for last week! guess you can drink now eh? hahahaha

Basil

7:06 PM

@Chopper3 They're pretty happy, yeah :)

Anonymous

Oracle to buy Responsys for $1.39 billion in cloud software push

Anonymous

oracle plz go die in a hole

Basil

My 5 year old is autistic and doesn't really seem to understand what's happening, but she loves presents and trees.

Anonymous

@Chopper3 your daughter is 14?

Chopper3

yep

Anonymous

7:08 PM

introduce me to her, just wondering lol

Chopper3

@PatoSáinz are you a paedophile?

MDMarra

@Chopper3 Close: South American

Anonymous

@Chopper3 I'm 14 (I knew you'd say that)

Anonymous

@MDMarra racist

MDMarra

:D

Chopper3

7:10 PM

@PatoSáinz whereabouts?

Anonymous

@Chopper3 whereabouts of?

Anonymous

@MDMarra:

Chopper3

which south american country

Anonymous

@Chopper3 Chile

Chopper3

oh nice

Anonymous

7:11 PM

(deleting that photo before someone's feelings gets hurt)

MIfe

@Basil I have an autistic son, nearly 7, understands it now. Depends how severe I guess though. First year he understands it.

Anonymous

@Chopper3 thanks, are you American?

Chopper3

@PatoSáinz no, British

Anonymous

@Chopper3 londoneer?

Chopper3

@MIfe my son is mildly autistic, it's not stopped him though

MDMarra

7:12 PM

-1

Q: Why choose Windows Server for a server OS and not Windows 8?

I have created an intranet net website for a small organization, its an inventory management system on .Net4 MVC now they also want me to deploy this on their internal network. This my first time i will be setting up a whole intranet (I am basically a Web Developer/Software engineer) My questio...

windows windows-server-2008 windows-server-2012

sigh

Chopper3

@PatoSáinz no, from the north originally, lived in London for about ten years but live on the south coast now

Anonymous

instaclose

Anonymous

@Chopper3 is it nice there?

Anonymous

especially with Cameron banning all porn and sh*t

Basil

@MIfe @Chopper3 It's such a big range of people. I don't feel the word does justice to my daughter...

Chopper3

7:14 PM

@PatoSáinz probably the best weather in the UK and very quiet, oh and a) it's not cameron who's 'banned' porn, it's the bigger of the ISPs, b) I work for the biggest of them and c) I'm 44, couldn't care less about porn

Anonymous

@Chopper3 i just care about ISP banning sh*t

Anonymous

I don't care if it's pony fanfic, porn or wikileaks

Basil

it's trivial to get around it

MIfe

@Basil Well, specifically its a 'spectrum' so it does cover it.

Anonymous

i know, but it's still banning sh*t

MIfe

7:15 PM

People have their own ideas of what it means though.

Basil

@MIfe that's always a problem. Anyways, I'm not really in the right frame of mind to talk about this atm

Joel E Salas

Is anyone interested in guinea pig-ing an IPAM/DC organization tool?

Chopper3

@JoelESalas sorry, got bags to back

ewwhite

@JoelESalas nope

Mathias R. Jessen

7:30 PM

Just got home from the office, to find a Z87 Sabertooth MB, a boxed i7-4770s, 32Gigs Kingston DDR3 and a Radeon Eyefinity gc waiting on my bed

Apparrently santa stopped by :D

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite loooool

Anonymous

@MathiasR.Jessen aww <3

84104

@MathiasR.Jessen I be jelly.

Mathias R. Jessen

@84104 I'm assembling the mofo as we speak, I'll post some pics later

@cole was it you who recommended the Cooler Master HAF XB chassis? Definitely no regrets from here :D

ewwhite

You people are computer dorks...

freiheit

7:34 PM

@ewwhite and?

Mathias R. Jessen

@ewwhite You're a gyro dork

Nathan C

Gah, since some of the office is still here I have to stay ...and a lot of people got to go home early. :(

Joel E Salas

If you built your own desktop, you're too nerdy and need to go outside more

Anonymous

@JoelESalas rude

Anonymous

@ewwhite go back to your bike

Anonymous

7:37 PM

never come back

ewwhite

Moving data... #macbookpro #apple #mavericks http://instagram.com/p/iJ8hYBzCuQ/

Tweeted by ewwhite910 on December 20, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Anonymous

eww too many apple products

Anonymous

do you own an iphone?

ewwhite

Yes... with a wooden case.

Scott Pack

@ewwhite Does it have a waxed mustache?

ewwhite

7:40 PM

@ScottPack NO>

Scott Pack

@ewwhite Sounds like it probably should have one.

84104

@ewwhite You should give it one. Then it an the Log Stash log could chill.

Scott Pack

@84104 That predates hipsters even.

84104

@ScottPack It's not "ironic"; it's punny.

Nathan C

@84104 He mustache you a question, but he'll shave it for later.

ewwhite

7:52 PM

yep, weirdos

Scott Pack

@84104 I imagine be pined for it long before it grew.

Chopper3

@MathiasR.Jessen I'm a keen PC gamer/builder btw

ewwhite

@Chopper3 Build MORE servers!

@Chopper3 I actually need server advice.

Chopper3

@ewwhite got minions for that

@ewwhite go on then, though Mrs.C3 is annoyed that I'm not helping with the packing

Mathias R. Jessen

@Chopper3 I'll remember that for when I break all these components in an hour or so :-)

ewwhite

7:57 PM

@Chopper3 trying to spec the systems for @JoelESalas and his company.

Chopper3

@MathiasR.Jessen you water-cooling?

Joel E Salas

@ewwhite Yes @Chopper3, we're attempting an OpenStack rollout

Anonymous

@Chopper3 builds bitcoin mining rigs

ewwhite

And I recall HP having a "big data" server model... 4.3U with a bunch of disks.

Chopper3

@ewwhite happy to help

Mathias R. Jessen

7:58 PM

@Chopper3 No, but I'm considering it

I'm a n00b :(

Chopper3

@PatoSáinz nah - our transcoders have a LOT of CUDA cores but they suck as bitcoin, you're better with AMD for that

@MathiasR.Jessen I've got a water cooled thing with dual watercooled 780 ti's :)

ewwhite

@Chopper3 Ah, found it... the HP ProLiant SL4540 Gen8

Chopper3

@ewwhite the 380p-25 is nice I think, you looking at 3.5's though

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