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12:21 AM

I've been kind of looking for something to help me organise/build my new campaign world. One of the possible tools was a desktop wiki - zim-wiki.org

(RealmWorks looks really nice, but not sure I can justify the $50)

For now I'm using Evernote to jot down my ideas

BESW

I use a combination of Evernote, Drive, the Spoil-Lair, and my bullet journal.

Tritium21

onenote

its free and available on almost anything you can compute on

BESW

I have very bad experiences with stuff that hooks into Microsoft accounts.

An “Actually” of pedants.

Tweeted by wilw on March 24, 2015 at 7:03 PM

~~Wait, Magician already posted that.~~ You saw nothing.

Adeptus

@Tritium21 It didn't used to be free. I already had Evernote on my phone, and can access it on the web too

Tritium21

Onenote is free on the web.

and application...

BESW

1:02 AM

This querent may need more guidance than I can give today.

Miniman

@BESW He could be a hell of a lot worse.

BESW

That guy's got the help he needs, in the form of @SevenSidedDie's comment.

Miniman

@BESW If I had an optimistic side, it might agree with you, but based on that particular user's previous interactions with the site I forsee nothing but pain.

BESW

@Miniman Oh, there's nothing saying they'll act on it, but they have the guidance available.

Shalvenay

I'm just hoping KRyan can get back to me re: The Way Words Work's version of the Truenamer

Shalvenay

2:27 AM

o/ @Pixie

Miniman

3:01 AM

I keep reading this question as "How to replace the party( member)'s face?"

doppelgreener

@Shalvenay won't necessarily be able to get back to you re: its tier though

Pixie

3:18 AM

@Shalvenay Hey.

SevenSidedDie

4:00 AM

@Adeptus I've poked at zim and found it really heavyweight and hard to set up, for what it does. At least, last I poked at it. For a desktop wiki I found the super-lightweight tiddlywiki to do the job well and have negligible set up time.

The Oracle

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Q: Problem Players

Is this really a good line of questioning? it seems like every question is answered with some variant of talk to your players, be polite remove problem if that doesn't work and generally seems to be a "be my groups therapist" tag, and since we aren't professional therapists, maybe we s...

discussion

Pureferret

8:23 AM

Morning all

Mourdos

Morning

trogdor

it's always morning on the internet

XD

Mourdos

You mean everyone is grumpy, not really paying attention and tired?

Pureferret

Huzzah

Actually yeah

Mourdos

Or that people get on the internet in the morning and thus it is always morning to the newcomer. :-)

Pureferret

8:27 AM

Or are on the bus to work

Mourdos

Or at work :P

Pureferret

:O

trogdor

probably both

my intended meaning was mostly that it is morning somewhere, (not here) and I often read someone saying good morning when it isn't morning where I am

not that I mind that

Mourdos

The sun is always rising on the British empire?

trogdor

not anymore, I would assume

BESW

8:33 AM

Actually.

Mourdos

Actually, still true

:-)

Though the correct saying is the sun never set, since the sun is always somewhere. I think there is one tiny island somewhere that makes that work for several hours.

trogdor

cute

Pureferret

Would a question about getting synergy out of a specific multiclass build be site-appropriate?

BESW

Provided you give specific enough goals, yes.

Mourdos

Talking of game, anyone interested in joining an ongoing game? Tends to run 1830 BST (or at least will after this week)

Pureferret

8:39 AM

@BESW so my goal isn't to maximise damage, per se, but to squeeze as much out of the synergy as I can. E.g. One class ability grants advantage, make sure I pick the class ability from the other side that makes most use of advantage

@Mourdos unfortunately I'm maxed out with games atm

Mourdos

Know of anyone looking for one? We use a mixture of forum and maptools. (Pathfinder E6 game)

Pureferret

Not that I can think of

Phil

Yay, some actual Savage Worlds questions

Mourdos

Hehe

Phil

might not seem much to you, but it validates my existance ;p

Iron Heart

9:12 AM

Not a question for the site, but looking to write up a forum post and wondering how best to express my request...

Iron Heart

9:26 AM

> DnD 3.0/3.5/d20: How do I star punch?
> I've taken a significant interest in Punch-Out lately, since recent events made me remember that the Wii game is so damn good. I'm currently curious if there are any d20 mechanics like the Star Punch, where a well-placed blow grants you a one-use super-move. I'm thinking that the closest match I know of is feats that require you to expend psionic focus, in combination with the Critical Refocus feat (*Ultimate Psionics*, Dreamscarred Press). Does anyone know of any features or feats that do similar?

Pureferret

10:09 AM

@IronHeart looks good

@BESW what do you think of my proto-question?

BESW

Hmm. What system?

Pureferret

D&D 5e

BESW

I don't know 5e, but in other D&D systems "all the ways to maximise synergy between two classes" is a bit too broad/long for SE's format.

Pureferret

I've picked classes with conflicting specialities (casting/control x tank )

Hmm, what if I asked, what sort of abilities to look out for, in an attempt to make it a good shopping question

BESW

It'd be best if you can avoid making it a shopping question at all.

But I'm really not the right guy to hold forth on this, since I don't know 5e.

Pureferret

10:15 AM

You showed an interest, plus good at questions type thing.

Thanks for the advice

I might try anyway as I don't think there's much synergy, so it might not be too broad

At least not with the play style I have in mind

BESW

If it were 4e, or Spycraft, or something, I'd be more useful.

doppelgreener

12:06 PM

@Pureferret good build questions tend to have these bits of information: where you currently are, what you want to do with your character, and the obstacles you face getting there.

e.g. "i want to play this caster and this tank, i picked them because i have these specific objectives {list} and those classes seemed like a good idea, but i'm having trouble working out how to make them work together powerfully to achieve those objectives"

Joshua Aslan Smith

good morning gentlemen

(and if there are ladies lurking)

Aaron

12:23 PM

Good morning

Pureferret

@doppelgreener thanks, that's very helpful

Aaron

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Q: Keeping Mass Battles interesting for players

It happens on rare occasion that the characters I GM for end up in some bigger battle. Often this follows lots of preparation and planning of strategies and tactics. Sometimes it just happens that the charaters are pulled in, but almost always this is quite a climactic and importent moment. Being...

mass-combat

BESW

On the ninth day of Stackmas, my wifi showed to me:
Nine ladies lurking
Eight mods a-smiting
Seven spams deleted
Six queues reviewed
Five tag edits!
Four comment flags
Three upvotes
Two VTCs
And meta in the chat feed.

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Joshua Aslan Smith

dude

should be FIVE GOLDEN BADGES

BESW

Doesn't scan.

Joshua Aslan Smith

12:31 PM

hah

BESW

It could have been Five lame in-jokes! but that seemed unnecessary.

Every Whovian should check out this 1980s Walt Simonson illustration of the 4th Dr. Who and Romana: http://marvel1980s.tumblr.com/image/114530154626

Tweeted by hayleyglyphs on March 25, 2015 at 6:13 AM

doppelgreener

12:46 PM

@Pureferret oh, also, the meta question:

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A: Are character optimization questions on topic?

A good charop question is either very specific or very general. If you fall in between you've entered the no mans land of gimmie the codez. There are 3 types of char-op questions that fall into the "good" category in my mind: I'm 90% complete and I need help making the final selection or two. ...

which elaborates on the good types of charops and etc

@BESW that is very good

BESW

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doppelgreener

@BESW [uncontrolled sniggering]

BESW

In other news, I showed my poster draft to the client at a meeting with a dozen people, and nobody noticed the figure had two right hands.

Joshua Aslan Smith

1:06 PM

@besw sounds about right

BESW

[needs to photograph left-handed marionette puppeteers for reference]

(Also, line variation covers a multitude of sins.)

Joshua Aslan Smith

hah

Phil

2:03 PM

what am I missing with this whole game survey/overview idea? To me it just sounds like another name for a list question, and I don't understand why people are trying to make out that it should be considered differently. Surely the same basic criteria of ensuring a question is narrow enough is all that is required?

doppelgreener

@Phil i think the idea is that instead of having an exhaustive list, you're able to give someone a picture of their options with just mentioning a few.

it's the difference between "Please list to me every address I might visit as a tourist in Japan" and "what kinds of places are there to visit as a tourist exploring Japan?"

Phil

Hmmm, I'm so far from convinced it might be a good idea that I think I'm on a different planet

doppelgreener

i am not sure if it's a good idea

i'm leaning toward the most recent edit being not a good idea

Phil

Same, but I'm not sure how to make it better O_o

Joshua Aslan Smith

@phil which wuestion?

David Wilkins

2:40 PM

ello

doppelgreener

@Phil personally i'm gonna treat it as an experiment and let it sit there at least a day to see what happens

Phil

2:58 PM

@JoshuaAslanSmith rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/58570/… and meta.rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/5431/…

Joshua Aslan Smith

sigh people downvoted sevensideddie's response

I think game survey questions are junk questisons

they are inherently list questions, primarily opinionbased or both

Phil

yay, some agreement :)

as far as I can see they are an attempt to get around our strict rules regarding list questions by people who don't like our strict rules regarding list questions

Aaron

imgur.com/gallery/7kmNF

Joshua Aslan Smith

right, just because its a sys-rec question doesnt mean we through out the rulebook

DuckTapeAl

@Aaron Darths and Droids is pretty great.

DuckTapeAl

6:22 PM

Chalk up another one for poor editing:

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Q: How can one establish communication with intelligent creatures lacking language?

The ice toad (Frostburn 140-1) has an Intelligence score of 6 yet no language. Beyond being conceptually annoying and making me feel bad for the handful of aberrant genius ice toads that lack the capacity to express their brilliance outside their own heads, this utter lack of language makes the o...

dnd-3.5e spells monsters class-feature languages

MadMAxJr

6:44 PM

"I can't get something I want at my RPG table and instead of talking to the DM I'd like to form an angry mob on the internet that sees my presentation of the issue and sides with me."

DuckTapeAl

Hmm?

MadMAxJr

Trend of several questions we get. Including that bastard sword question.

DuckTapeAl

The funny thing about that bastard sword question is that the querent is the GM.

MadMAxJr

.... What

DuckTapeAl

Right?

MadMAxJr

6:45 PM

Then he can just make it whatever

Rule 0

DuckTapeAl

Exactly.

MadMAxJr

... I have to edit now

DuckTapeAl

It's also a part of one of my favorite Rule 0 corollaries: If it's not visible to the players, you don't need to follow the rules.

He asked another question about getting extra starting cash by crafting before the game starts. Once he said he was the GM, I basically threw my hands up in the air.

MadMAxJr

Quantum rules. The act of direct observation changes them.

My group has quantum entangled rules. Usually a rule tangled with a player. If I consider a new change or reading of a given rule, the entangled player at any point in space/time will become enraged.

Most of the criteria given, except the light weight, IS a bastard sword. So I guess that might be the close-unclear votes.

DuckTapeAl

The question was a lot less clear before.

It's better now that's he's given a list of requirements.

MadMAxJr

6:51 PM

And if they're the DM you wave your hand and do the 'elf metal', 'unobtanium', 'star metal' or any number of fluff-caveats to justify changes.

DuckTapeAl

Yeah.