:) Sorry, I meant I was a little late in responding. You were spot on! I guess I should really proof-read these before I hit "Add Comment" — Electrons_AhoyAug 1 '11 at 21:00
I've still not gotten around to compiling the Developer Edition, so still on v51.0.1. I have 2 windows with 10 tabs between them - none very image intensive, so that might keep it sown some. Still, here's what my report show.
Ok. Just for giggles, added a new tab with mega images, ~340 @ 250x250. Got this report.
so yeah, Safari with a bunch of tabs uses around 2 GB too
I guess that's just the state of modern web browsers and dynamic content
it's pretty appalling though that we had not-that-much-worse web sites in the early web 2.0 years that were still dynamic but used a fraction of the memory
we'd think something's wrong if you saw a browser using 2 out of your 4 GB of memory in 2009
@allquixotic Yeah. Once you use e10s, Firefox's memory usage balloons.
Ultimately, on cheap netbooks with low memory and storage, less memory usage = less paging = more SSD endurance.
@allquixotic It's mainly a space-time tradeoff these days, one typically made in favor of time. I suppose a browser can render the content in less memory, but it would take a lot more compute.
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The utility of a given space-time tradeoff is affected by related fixed and variable costs (of, e.g., CPU speed, storage space), and is subject to diminishing returns.
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After all, most modern systems are equipped with enough RAM that it would be better to use more of it to render pages faster.
On mobile, if your system isn't a resource-constrained netbook like Bifrons, this would extend battery life because you're using less CPU time.
WELP, that was interesting. I pulled up the exact same tabs, in two windows, using Chrome. Then, since the FireFox windows have been open, and with 8 of the tabs constant, for 2 days, and I suspect a slight memory leak on one of them, I restarted FireFox. Did get lower numbers, slightly. Finally, since I've got a few add-ons, I restarted FireFox with a brand new profile and reloaded the two windows, and same set of tabs. Much lower numbers, though still higher than Chrome.
I got ~26 others that are as needed life firebug, and console², as well as some SEO related stuff. That and there's about a dozen themes I've tried, and keep installed in case my mood changes.
@Nick AdBlock Plus and uBlock are both browser extensions that download lists of websites, and components of websites (via various techniques for specifying those components), then every time your browser is about to go request some resource, it determines whether to block it or delete it after the fact if it thinks it's an ad
AdBlock Plus is an earlier, less efficient effort at the problem and uBlock does what ABP does but better
it's very rare for me to whitelist a site on purpose, although on occasion there are false positives and I have to temp disable it for a site to even work
lower page load latency, less total data on my limited-unlimited data plans, better battery life and scrolling performance, less memory consumption (= less swapping/paging), not sure what there's not to like unless you constantly hit false positives (I don't)
I hit a false positive about once a month and it's a simple page reload to fix it
@allquixotic I use the global toggle to test that. Toggling it for just that site means either I forget to toggle it back, or it plain doesn't work (because it's blocking a frame somewhere and the toggle didn't work)
@Bob not really; ads are so jarring when I see them that I always remember to turn it back on; if the ads aren't invasive then I don't need it on in the first place
which should be enough in your case in FF anyway because of the built-in tracking protection
@Bob does it? I guess I just don't use the same sites as you, because I switched my main browser to FF for like, 2 months (and it's still my default on my Windows boxen) and it never broke any sites I go to
I had tracking protection and ublock with the default filters; uBlock occasionally broke sites, but tracking prot never did
btw, the performance hit in ES2 grows way faster than linear as the number of AIs and map size increases (understandably, at least for the map, since that's a x*y or quadratic problem space at the least)
Use your phone and try to access the out-of-sync APs. Any you get into that way you can try using the passwords on. Given full access you can then fix those anyway. A beginning anyway.
Technically, I guess, I'm a Baby-boomer, though I'm on the leading edge of that, so I missed the opportunities there. And I came along to late to enjoy the Flower Power stuff.
Oh were the good times when I listened to Red Alert tracks. And how excited I was to found music extractor allowed me to playback .OGG audio files. That was back when I had 56k baud modem.
I had a Scion with 3 or 6 C changer, not sure which, and used MP3 CDs. At the time my library fit on 5 discs, and had road music for days of OTR pleasure.
I have to stop relying on CDs pretty soon anyway. We recently discovered that we don't have a single CD burner in the entire company. The last available one was in my home office workstation
And that machine is being replaced next month probably. Then it's no more shiny discs
I'm not going to be able to finish my build :(,, and I'm thinking of getting the 510-020 and using it as the brain for the build. It's only got one HDD bay, and I need more, but if I can use the MOBO in a std case, I can make it work.
@Bob I'm thinking i3-6100T with 8GB RAM isn't too bad. And I can get it on time from Fingerhut (yea, that'll cost more in the end) The other one is AMD FX-4300, for more $$ besides :(
Gonna wait as long as can. Maybe I'll safe some $$ from wife. The Fingerhut option is last ditch if I can't resurrect this Dinosaur "one more time." At that I'll probably be dead in the water for nearly a week if it happens.
@Burgi I only have "phone" cause I found it. Galaxy J1. No service - just use wifi. Otherwise I can use the iPod (gen 4) which won't handle the SE app.