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Bob
10:02 AM
@GypsySpellweaver Ryzen 3 (low end) is planned for ~Q3 2017. If you can hold out a couple months...
Or just get the current low-end Intel. Those are fine.
Previous-gen AMD ... not so good.
Ok, the FX-4300 isn't the worst thing in the world. But you use a lot more power too... which means more chance of thermal throttling, and of course power bills. And older platform. Lacking shinies :P
But yea, if you really want/need it. It'll work.
 
10:30 AM
I just called my teacher to inform him that I will be out of town for a couple of weeks... He sounded very drunk.
 
what time is it there?
Also, why are you calling your teacher o_O
 
@Rahul2001 That's the only way you can make it through life as a teacher
 
I have G560 lenovo laptop (4GB RAM, Intel dual core 2.1GHz) and I don't know what to do with it...
 
@djsmiley2k 4:00PM. Tuition teacher, it's normal and acceptable to call teachers here.
 
Sell it? For how much?
 
10:33 AM
@Boris_yo NAS/Server/Media Center
 
@Boris_yo Check ebay and compare
 
Why would you sell it? I never sell computers.
 
@Rahul2001 What you do with them? Turn to NAS/Server/Media Center?
 
@Boris_yo yep, install appropriate software, and you're good to go!
 
How about melting hardware and extracting silver and gold? Chemical job but maybe can make a living?
 
10:34 AM
Also, seedbox. Seedboxes are cool!
 
@Rahul2001 k
@Boris_yo that's a LOT of computers, and dangerous chemicals, to not get much good stuff.
 
@Boris_yo Look at Youtube videos of people doing it. One machine isn't going to cut it
 
@Boris_yo You'll at most get a dollar's worth, and will get cancer during the highly toxic process.
 
if it was worth doing, companies would do it xD
 
+1
 
10:36 AM
@djsmiley2k They are
 
@OliverSalzburg nod, and dumping the waste in africa
 
Although seeing how Intel CPU and video graphics card get melted would give me cringes...
 
It's worth it if you ship the crap to Africa and have people not use proper precautions when they do it
 
s/waste/bodies
 
So are you saying that $1 is not enough to cover chemotherapy?
*facepalm
 
10:37 AM
Donate the computer to an orphanage!
 
@Boris_yo Depends on the chemicals being used
 
(starz plz) :P
 
@Rahul2001 Great idea. Refurbish the thing and donate
 
Amen
or make it art work and sell it
I call this one '1990s'
 
I can convert hardware to artwork and sell it?
Where do I get converter?
 
10:38 AM
you can try.
in the mind of the buyers
I've still got a huge thermaltake case I wanna get rid of
 
cept it's got stickers and all sorts on it
I might strip all the plastic off, then pretend I'm gonna use it as a test bench
and infact make it into part of a turtle enclosure, or maybe build a fishtank inside?
 
@djsmiley2k :D
You think I am capable of removing poor turtle's shell and replace it with turtle enclosure?
Or putting goldfishes in tank?
 
xD
You know that's not what I meant! :P
 
@OliverSalzburg or in a school. :(
 
10:43 AM
Turtle would get his revenge!
 
I will find you
And I will destroy you
 
Official patent summary:
> A paper bag is disclosed. The paper bag may include a bag container formed of white solid bleached sulfate paper with at least 60% post-consumer content.
 
11:01 AM
I'd rather file a seemingly stupid patent application than paying royalties for every paper bag I hand out in my stores because someone else did
 
@OliverSalzburg Well, Apple did, so everyone else will have to pay. MUAWHAHAHAH!
 
@Rahul2001 That's the game :P
 
11:21 AM
Does video work for you?
Consumption vs. Production - how consumption hinders economy growth as media would have you believe otherwise...
@djsmiley2k Should be "And I will kill you"
 
@Boris_yo This guy goes futher than just killin, look at that face.
@Rahul2001 Primark has prior art
their paperbags are the strongest known material
 
@djsmiley2k We have those here of different brand.
 
11:38 AM
@Boris_yo primark is a VERY cheap clothing brand
 
@djsmiley2k That's because they're weaving the souls of their shoppers into the fibers
 
@OliverSalzburg sounds about right
 
@OliverSalzburg Weaving? With Hugo Weaving?
I see what they did there...
Must explain why bags are so strong...
Who's the soul catcher then?
 
Now, lets cleverly quote...
10 mins ago, by Oliver Salzburg
@djsmiley2k That's because they're weaving the souls of their shoppers into the fibers
Muahaha
 
I know who!
How could he go that low?
 
11:54 AM
o_O
Well this is not going well.
Y NO GIF
 
@djsmiley2k It's .PNG
extension
 
~:O
i copied it from google and it did weird stuff to it :(
ah well still looks awesome :D
 
12:10 PM
1. Download .PNG
2. Rename to .GIF
3. Upload to SuperUser chat room
4. Success!
 
hmmm
if it's actually a png
i doubt that's gonna work :P
 
Will try to fix segments in a preboot environment.
 
hmmm
if we know a specific user is using a dictonary to create asswords, instead of just random characters, does that make it easier to crack?
@Boris_yo erm
you right click the drive, tell it to run checkdisk at reboot
and then reboot
chkdisk /f will do the same thing I believe
 
12:30 PM
@djsmiley2k Yes. You can feed the cracking program with dictionaries.
 
12:42 PM
hmmmmmmmmmm
yeah
i figure that too
 
hey I'd like to know more about network security as a private user. Since I have little knowledge about networks I'd strongly prefer a good source of information with a strong theoretical part, kinda like a scientific paper. Does it break the rules to ask such a question, since it most probably will - hopefully if asked - be answered by providing a link or a name of a external source?
 
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Q: Get id from Swing component in Groovy SwingBuilder

allquixoticLet's say I declare an object using SwingBuilder as follows: swing.button(id:'something') I know I can get the Component back from SwingBuilder by calling: swing."something" But how can I go from an instance of the Component, back to its id as a String? Component c = getMyButton() String wha...

 
it'd be opinion based
 
HALP FLOWER IS ON HEAD I DONT KNOW WHAT IS THIS
@Felix.C soliciting links to learning material is off-topic
 
12:53 PM
on the mainsite, at least; here, it's alright
 
Hmm..I already suspected something like that...any ideas how to proceed or am I just completely wrong here?
 
also, "network security" is such a huge topic that no single body of work can present the whole topic without it basically being a book for a college course; and there are a lot of fundamentals behind it that have nothing to do with "security" per se but are just about how networking works
once you understand the basics of how networking works, only then can you begin to talk about security of networks
and there are different implications for security at every layer, from the physical layer -- people digging up fiber -- to the multiple layers at the application layer, like the business logic layer that's not usually modeled in OSI but nonetheless has major security implications
most authoritative sources, aside from college textbooks, tend to focus on a small number of layers (or exactly one layer) of the networking stack, and if the source is security focused, it probably assumes deep knowledge of the functionality of that layer
 
I have basic knowledge about most protocol used including all OSI-layers, basic cryptography, network topology, hardware components involved..I guess my starting would be about firewalls, ports etc. if that helps
@allquixotic ok thx
 
@Felix.C firewalls and ports are completely different concepts; also, ports are not inherently a security mechanism, whereas firewalls are
 
The internet is a great source of infomation, both wrong and right.
 
12:58 PM
firewalls that I've seen can operate at layer 2 (e.g. Ethernet), layer 3 (e.g. IP), layer 4 (e.g. TCP or UDP), and often, layer 7+ (deep packet inspection)
firewalls are super OS-dependent though, whereas ports are just a part of the spec of certain transport layer protocols like TCP and UDP (though not all transport layers have to have ports, and you could design a new one that only accepted case-sensitive My Little Pony pony names as port specifiers, or 256-bit numbers, or whatever)
 
Was I meant was that these two are topics I wouldn't claim to be able to explain what they do since I don't know how they work, that's what I wanted to say...
@djsmiley2k You're right and also there are a lot of bad sources...expecially about this topic..I don't want the best 5 tips how to protect my NAS/server/whatever etc.
 
heh yeah
put it this way, I've been a sysadmin for ~10 years in various roles, i likely still learn new things every day
you're going to need to narrow down what you want to cover, massively
 
yup
and not understanding "ports" really shows that you're not as brushed-up on the underlying technology (independent of security) as you should be if you want to successfully grasp security stuff, unless that's just an aberration
ports are pretty basic stuff
might help to understand TCP and UDP (and the differences between them) better
also, as you're going along, always be mindful of what is and what isn't a security mechanism; a security mechanism is designed to prevent unauthorized access (e.g. firewalls or logins/passwords or certificates), or prevent tampering / theft of data in transit (e.g. crypto), or verify that someone is who they say they are (e.g. PKI)
there are a lot of things that look "security-ish" like ports, but are absolutely not a security mechanism, because changing settings about that thing does not by itself provide any security
for instance, if you have a wide-open SSH server with no password on port 22, changing the port to 43001 doesn't magically make it secure
 
hehhh
define security first, indeed
 
Ok then let's start bottom up, I know what function ports have in protocols like UDP/TCP still I don't understand to what potential damage I expose my system/network if I have open ports and for example if it's true that a closed port is rly like a locked door etc. so I guess I already remarked know that I probably shoudl try to understand ports better
 
1:05 PM
nor does MAC address whitelisting (basically a layer 2 firewall) provide any security: someone can easily spoof a MAC address
 
i generally google a question i have
make sure i understand the answer
end up with more questions
the rabbit hole is deep neo
 
haha :)
 
@Felix.C well, first of all, if you have a NAT device (like a cable/DSL/fiber modem or a router with a LAN side and a WAN side), and especially if that NAT device is blocking the typical traversal techniques (like UPnP and NAT-T), having open ports on your local box is nearly harmless
if your public IP is 1.2.3.4 and that's the IP of your edge router, and I try to connect on a port that I think your computer has open, your router is not going to route my inbound connection to your computer unless (1) you've manually set up port forwarding rules in the router config or (2) your router supports NAT-T and the program has used NAT-T to temporarily punch a hole in the router, like a "dynamic" port forward
NAT-T and UPnP are little more than a way for a computer on a LAN to request a router to temporarily set up a port forward rule, without making you do it manually
also, you really don't want to be in the DMZ, as the default behavior for most routers for a box in the DMZ is that an inbound connection with no other port forwarding rule just gets sent straight to the DMZ box as if the DMZ box had every port forwarded to it
 
ah ok
 
most programs except peer-to-peer game clients don't usually use or try to use NAT-T or UPnP; and it's a good idea to disable those features in your router's config if it lets you, unless you know that you need them
but there's no sense in trying to stop malicious programs running on your computer from using NAT-T or UPnP; disabling those protocols is mainly to prevent accidental exposure, because think about it: if you have a malicious program running on your computer, it has no need to open any inbound ports to connect to its C&C server; it can simply make an outbound connection
 
Bob
1:14 PM
@allquixotic lol at "7**+**" -- does the firewall inspect the user? :D
 
yay GCM
 
Bob
firewall: *looks through webcam* "yup this user's authorised"
 
@Bob I was just thinking that OSI never distinguishes between the many, many layers that are "higher" than layer 7, but that doesn't mean the layers aren't there
the traditional definition of layer 7 would be something like HTTP in many/most cases, these days
 
Bob
@allquixotic was just playing on the old layer 8 joke :P
 
the background of my question is that I want to install a raspberry pi with a webserver at home, but since my father is a doctor, thing are difficult ;) so I wanted to become a bit more comfortable with those things first, but @allquixotic you gave me some nice keywords here thank you!
 
Bob
1:15 PM
@allquixotic OSI layers don't really fit the TCP/IP (/HTTP) real-world that well
 
but your application doesn't just send meaningless garbage over HTTP; you have many layers of your app; database, web service, business logic, etc
 
Bob
HTTP can act as layer 3 (via HTTP CONNECT)
 
@Bob yup, hence 7+
 
Bob
@allquixotic well, no, HTTP can be below 7
 
I thought http to be more like layer 5 in osi model no?
 
Bob
1:16 PM
other applications on top of HTTP don't make them ">7", it makes HTTP act <7.
@Felix.C maybe. it's hard to force-fit these into OSI
 
@Bob right, but if HTTP is literally your layer 7, and you're not using CONNECT, the fact remains that there's no clear separation between the protocol itself and the semantics/meaning of the data being sent/received, whereas with lower layers that's usually the case
 
Bob
maybe it's more correct to say CONNECT is layer 5 *shrug*
 
electrical signaling along a wire (layer 1) --> the meaning of those signals is the Ethernet protocol! (layer 2)
Ethernet frames (Layer 2) --> the meaning of those frames is as IP packets! (layer 3)
 
Bob
@allquixotic yes, but I'm saying HTTP as a whole (which includes CONNECT) could be acting as a lower layer
 
IP packets (layer 3) --> the meaning of those frames is within the context of a TCP connection! etc.
so.... HTTP request (layer 7) --> the meaning of those frames is within the context of a SOAP call! (layer 8)
 
Bob
1:19 PM
you can push HTTP over SOCKS over HTTP
 
they've just been too lazy to update the OSI / there's too many different application layer models to bother
 
Bob
that does not make SOCKS "layer 7+"
the topmost layer of HTTP is your "layer 7" - but the underlying SOCKS and HTTP would be lower layers
 
k, I'm not even talking about anything remotely similar to what you're talking about, so I guess we're talking past each other; I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying
 
Bob
@allquixotic OSI doesn't model this kind of recursion well, if at all :P
 
falls over
 
1:21 PM
now look what you've done Bob; you knocked over an elderly wauzer
 
Bob
@allquixotic I'm saying under OSI you wouldn't have anything >7 because your application is always 7 - anything under the application would be a lower layer. but that wouldn't work if you want to adhere strictly to each higher layer having its own number. but what if you tunnel HTTP over SOAP? does that make it 'layer 9'? IMO, that just puts this current usage of SOAP at a layer <7, because it's being used as a transport.
 
@JourneymanGeek long day?
 
long weeks
 
i like how everyone keeps saying you are doing a @Burgi
 
@Bob okay, well that's really strange, and assigning lower numbers to things obfuscates the entire layering of the system; so I'll happily part from OSI for clarity's sake
I'd happily describe a multi-tier application in terms of 12 "layers", treating all the layers above 7 as non-standard, and 7 as conventional HTTP, 4 as TCP, 3 as IP, 2 as ethernet and 1 as PHY
 
Bob
1:23 PM
@allquixotic yea, as previously mentioned - OSI doesn't really deal with recursion well
but real-world protocols are largely happy to be layered till you run out of resources
 
encapsulating, yeah
 
Bob
HTTP on top of HTTP - should the 'upper' HTTP be 8, or should the 'lower' HTTP be 5/6?
 
but even one layer of TCP on TCP over the WAN with any significant latency is horrible
 
Bob
IMO, the latter. You're arguing for the former.
IDK if there's any 'official' stance on this.
 
OpenVPN over TCP, for instance, is fairly crap compared to UDP
 
Bob
1:24 PM
@allquixotic crap or not, it exists - and if you want to squeeze it into the OSI model, you need to figure out how you deal with that
 
lol
after layer 6 it just gets.... 'cloudy' ;D
 
I want to tear up the OSI model and write a better one - but I guess if you allow for higher layers than 7, you run into the problem of clearly articulating what each layer should represent, and there's no set standard (at least not one that everyone agrees on) for that
 
Sometimes even earlier, IPX, etc
 
some apps, if you were to model each nested layer above 7, might go to 15 or 20
 
Bob
@allquixotic I think it's typical to reuse lower layers
 
1:26 PM
others might end directly at the payload of layer 7
 
socks over http over ssh over http over dns over vpn over udp over....
 
Bob
if you forget the layer numbers and describe by function (physical, data-link, network, etc.), reusing the descriptions makes more sense
 
sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssh is ssh over ssh over ssh over ssh over ssh over ...
Killed
 
@allquixotic I thought they mostly use the 4 layer models these days.
 
1:27 PM
(out of memory)
 
who's they? ;)
 
the illusory 'they'
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek if you're sitting within TCP/IP, then yea, mostly. but what happens when you implement IP over TCP? :P
 
1:29 PM
also, when you have a hostile (aggressive blocking, deep packet inspecting, SSL MITMing) local network PHB, like I do at work, who blocks basically everything, you can always just create another layer on top of the layers that work and use it as a proxy/VPN
 
Bob
if I know something is "layer 2" I know I can put anything "layer 3" on top of it... but I'm supposed to not know nor care what's under that "layer 2", be it layer 1 or another layer 3 stack...
 
I've been meaning to do that: make a SOCKS proxy that looks like regular webpage traffic
 
Bob
@allquixotic the TOR pluggable transports are interesting reading
 
@Bob hehe, yeah
 
turns out going off road (on to the fake grass) in an office chair is tricky
 
1:30 PM
I just don't want my traffic going through the literal Tor network
wonder if I can use their pluggable transports for a single endpoint VPN
 
@Burgi you have fake grass in your office?
 
yes...
have you not seen the pictures?
 
herm, maybe ?
My mind purges at least nightly
 
Bob
domain fronting especially looked interesting
 
it adds to the me being confusion.
See what you've started now @Felix.C? :D
 
1:31 PM
@Bob I've had that idea before :D
 
Bob
@allquixotic I'm currently running SOCKS/SSH over proxytunnel... if they start doing pattern analysis I might switch
 
@Bob do you have mandatory mitm?
 
Bob
@allquixotic I spent a train ride reading the paper :P
@allquixotic no, they recently started filtering HTTP but let all HTTPS reqs through
 
nice
 
Bob
which was quite amusing... I installed httpseverywhere to get imgur working on SE again
 
1:33 PM
we have the dreaded MWG Redirect (aka 'HTTP/fuckyouverymuch')
McAfee Web Gateway - if it detects certain MIME types, it redirects you to a LAN webpage, breaking the HTTP spec, and shows a progress bar as what seems like a single Nehalem Xeon processor on a Windows Server 2003 box downloads your file at about 30 Mbps then scans it
it has to unzip your attachment if it's zipped, and it supports 7z, but the unzip process takes about 6 hours for anything substantial on what must be a single overloaded 5400 rpm HDD
just the jenkins .war file from jenkins-ci.org takes about 3 hours
 
lolwut
 
fortunately, it has a devious way to beat the virus scanning wait, at least: enable AES encryption in your 7zip file :D
it still redirects you to the download page, but the scan takes 1 second
I need a .7z encrypting proxy lol
even with a password like "a" it completely eliminates the wait
 
@allquixotic Could be a SaaS offering
 
@OliverSalzburg are you saying someone already has that out there?
 
that domainfronting is... wow
 
Bob
1:38 PM
@allquixotic gitter btw
 
he's saying he's spinning it up now
 
@Bob glad you told me; I don't get gitter notifications (on purpose) so I only go there when you tell me :D
 
Bob
@allquixotic you have the most hilariously inefficient environment
 
wait, what is gitter? D:
can I join in?
 
1:47 PM
@allquixotic Not that I'm aware of. Sounds like it could be a thing though :)
@Burgi That's nice
 
That office looks nicer than ours actually :(
 
I had to ctrl+f a Cavil json !!export to find that image lol
@Burgi is that a Christmas tree in May?
also, that's a beautiful office, but why do some workers have only one monitor?
also I'd go nuts having that bright light shine down on me from above like I'm fried chicken served to order at a delicatessen and they're trying to keep me warm
 
@allquixotic no its a christmas tree at christmas
 
@Burgi Oh! :D Today the flower-on-head-cat learns that pictures can come from the past
 
1:57 PM
@allquixotic laptop users
 
"Oh...!"
 
today flower head cat learns that laptops have builtin screens
 
> One of the creepy qualities of adults is that they have an answer for everything.
> There should be a test or classified training facility or something to prove you're adult.
+1 to this!
 
My favorite one is this:
> The person I see as being adult is M.C. Hammer.
 
@Bob aww
 
what's the chances that my TPS on my car, fails at exactly the average timeframe for it failing
I'm at 80,500 miles
the average lifespan for one is 80k
 
Telephone Preference Service?
 
2:29 PM
lol
 
2:50 PM
A throttle position sensor (TPS) is a sensor used to monitor the throttle position of a vehicle. The sensor is usually located on the butterfly spindle/shaft so that it can directly monitor the position of the throttle. More advanced forms of the sensor are also used, for example an extra closed throttle position sensor (CTPS) may be employed to indicate that the throttle is completely closed. Some engine control units (ECUs) also control the throttle position electronic throttle control (ETC) or "drive by wire" systems and if that is done the position sensor is used in a feedback loop to enable...
 
Bob
hm
just un-lagged firefox by closing 150 open tabs :P
got about 20 open ones left and another 600 unloaded
 
Bob
@allquixotic idk if you're still looking at gitter, so... your Swing thing, have you tried getName?
 
@allquixotic Is that video's thumbnail that you are using as your profile picture?
 
@Boris_yo no. He is a cat with a flower on his head
 
3:03 PM
@JourneymanGeek But cat is same on both pics.
 
Is it?
 
It's the same cat yus
tho the thumbnail doesn't match his profile pic
so the video is using him :O
 
3:20 PM
Does this crossbow belong to Punisher? sport.woot.com/offers/carbon-express-covert-crossbow-kits
Is this for hunting? Looks cool...
 
 
Nice! I didn't know Trump does CSS...
.policies { inherited: none; }
I think I can help him with CSS...
 
lol
ok, guy in the pitstop thinks it's not the sensor
but the actual plate is getting jammed
which'd kinda add up with what I'm seeing
and what I'm doing actually
 
@Bob Thank you! Post that as the right answer and I'll accept/upvote it
(It works :D)
also, what are the chances... the guy who posted a comment on that Q has your last name
 
3:37 PM
lol
 
my hero @Bob doesn't need any code samples
 
yay!
thunderstorms all day tomorrow
 
when people who are working in a store that sells confectionary snacks
raises a ticket saying 'when I lick the blue i I get the wrong flavour'
xD
 
this means i don't have to go to some boring school faté with my GF
 
what's a faté and why would doing anything with a girlfriend be boring
 
3:42 PM
A fête or fete is an elaborate festival, party or celebration. In Britain, fetes are traditional public festivals, held outdoors and organized to raise funds for a charity. They typically include entertainment and the sale of goods and refreshments. == Village fêtes == Village fêtes are common in Britain. These are usually outdoor shows held on village greens or recreation grounds with a variety of activities. They are organised by an ad hoc committee of volunteers from organisations like religious groups or residents' associations. In Australia, fêtes are often held yearly by schools an...
 
@Burgi it's fun to watch tents and stuff burn :D
we've only got thunderstorms in the morning
 
All day up here
 
@allquixotic basically the school sets up a load of stalls to sell donated crap and they have bouncy castles and stuff
they use it to help fund the school
 
that's an incredibly French word
 
3:49 PM
the E has a tent because it tends to rain a lot at these events
 
LOLLLL
 
@djsmiley2k Is David Icke well known public figure in UK?
 
@Boris_yo sort of
more as a joke and a bonafide nutter
 
@Burgi Has he opened your eyes to the big brother?
 
@Boris_yo is Donald Tusk a well known public figure in Israel?
 
3:50 PM
@Boris_yo no because he is a mental
 
@allquixotic Donald Duck. Not really. Donald Trump? He started taking steps...
@Burgi Yes. Everyone who's mental knows something average people do not.
 
Donald Tusk is the President of the European Council, and Israel is an associated state of the EU :P
 
@allquixotic Oh, that one.
I don't hear much about him on TV.
 
@allquixotic when did israel join the EU?
 
neither did anyone until Brexit lol
 
3:53 PM
@Boris_yo I'm mental, and I know things too
 
@Burgi they're not a member; they're an associate
like the UK might be in 2 years
 
@allquixotic thats optimistic
 
Brexit = back to associate? @allquixotic
Breaks it!
 
A European Union Association Agreement (for short, Association Agreement or AA) is a treaty between the European Union (EU), its Member States and a non-EU country that creates a framework for co-operation between them. Areas frequently covered by such agreements include the development of political, trade, social, cultural and security links. The legal base for the conclusion of the association agreements is provided by art. 217 TFEU (former art. 310 and art. 238 TEC). == Overview == Association Agreements are broad framework agreements between the EU (or its predecessors) and its member states...
 
I think this is about the time we needed David Icke in a chat room...
For some enlightenment...
 
3:56 PM
the guy is a proper nutter
 
The Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) is a proposed trade agreement between the European Union and the United States, with the aim of promoting trade and multilateral economic growth. TTIP is considered a companion agreement to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). The agreement is under ongoing negotiations. Its main three broad areas are market access, specific regulation, and broader rules and principles and modes of co-operation. The negotiations were planned to be finalized by the end of 2014, but will not be finished until 2019 or 2020, according to economist Hosuk Lee...
 
he thinks all the rich/famous people in the entire world are lizard people
 
TTIP - EU and US - in theory I'd be in favor of it, but it's chock-full of horrible anti-privacy, anti-freedom provisions
 
@Burgi Depends on what resonates with you from his talk.
 
sssssssssssssssss
 
3:58 PM
@Boris_yo which bit resonates with you?
 
Almost everything except reptilians.
 
LOL
 
Reptilian brain part that humans have. Maybe.
 

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